2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (4 Viewers)

[Anarchy99]

Simmons apparently on the trading block . . . .

There will be SOOOOO many teams lining up to take on the 3 years/$114M left on his contract for a guy averaging 6 ppg, shooting 45% from the charity stripe, and is a lifetime 14% three-point shooter. At least he is a team player, worked his butt off to improve his game when he was out, and plays through injuries.

 

[SWC]

kyrie thinks he’s smarter than everybody else well he isnt take that to the bank brohans

this is also a guy who openly said the earth was flat. It seems clear his brain works differently than most others.

Yeah, but Uncle Drew was pretty awesome.

zow i actually really like that movie and thought he was good in it giving credit where its due take that to the bank brohan

 

[SWC]

bucks wolves tonight brohans should be a good game but i sort of feel like minny has our number tonight take that to the bank

 

[Frostillicus]

bucks wolves tonight brohans should be a good game but i sort of feel like minny has our number tonight take that to the bank

Nah, they're a mess right now. D-Lo has been terrible and they're still struggling to fit Ant/KAT/Rudy together. I believe they'll figure it out and end up a top 6 team in the West, but right now the Bucks should roll. Plus Ant and Rudy are questionable with illness (afraid of Giannisitis imo).

 

[Tom Hagen]

Kyrie is really running the full playbook. Flat earth, anti vaxxer, this latest thing and god knows how many others.

And this is a guy who will tell anyone who will listen that he is the smartest guy in the room. And I think he really believes it. Very cringe worthy.

Good shtick would be for a Nets beat writer to ask Kyrie about things like the moon landing and the JFK assassination every time the team lets him talk to the media.

 

[Anarchy99]

Kyrie is really running the full playbook. Flat earth, anti vaxxer, this latest thing and god knows how many others.

And this is a guy who will tell anyone who will listen that he is the smartest guy in the room. And I think he really believes it. Very cringe worthy.

Good shtick would be for a Nets beat writer to ask Kyrie about things like the moon landing and the JFK assassination every time the team lets him talk to the media.

I'd actually be interested to hear his thoughts on the 2020 presidential election. Not that I am interested in his opinion . . . I would just like to see what crazy things he had to say about it.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'd actually be interested to hear his thoughts on the 2020 presidential election.

Take it to the Political Forum.....oh wait.

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2d63xqvn

Gordon Hayward
James Bouknight

For

Ben Simmons


******

At this point, the Nets should just sign Miles Bridges and Josh Primo. The level of tension and dysfunction and controversy currently means people are going to pile on the team anyway, so might as well use that existing scandal to add in young legitimate NBA talent. The reason to sign them now is to start their Bird Rights clock with New Jersey immediately. Both can be had for the veteran's minimum right now, and since that's an exception the cap, it doesn't matter that the Nets are existing luxury tax payers.

I'm not a huge fan of Bouknight, but he operates as a proxy for a first round pick in a trade and Hayward has one year less than Simmons and will be more useful next to Durant.

And while I like Mark Williams in Charlotte, Simmons can play center. Can he defend the rim? No. But he's going to have to learn to play center sooner rather than later. His zero offense means pairing with most rim protectors is a 3 on 5 offense for his future teams. That's unsustainable. Most starting pivots don't combine the floor spacing, shot creation, rim protection and offensive load carrying skills to mesh with Simmons' established flaws.

The first thought most will have is to try to trade Simmons to Utah. Danny Ainge is only going to trade if he can raid the your roster's entire cookie jar. So that's not as viable.

 

[mr. furley]

Kyrie is really running the full playbook. Flat earth, anti vaxxer, this latest thing and god knows how many others.

And this is a guy who will tell anyone who will listen that he is the smartest guy in the room. And I think he really believes it. Very cringe worthy.

Good shtick would be for a Nets beat writer to ask Kyrie about things like the moon landing and the JFK assassination every time the team lets him talk to the media.

Buzz Aldrin waiting in the wings for the gong so he can come out and sock Kyrie in the mouth

 

[Kiddnets]

As a 40 year Nets fan I cant believe how bad this is and I lived through Coach Cal and a 15 win season - team in shambles - no picks - no future - constant embarrassment - leave it to the Nets to build the one "superteam" that becomes a complete failure - cant wait for the 30/30

Would love a poll of who damaged the Nets more -

Billy King with that horrific Celtics trade or Kyrie?

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2buosfxq

Kyrie Irving
Ben Simmons

For

Russell Westbrook
Patrick Beverley
Kendrick Nunn
2027 Unprotected First Round Pick

Nets clear both of their problems in Irving/Simmons, get an unprotected FRP that might turn into something down the road, clear cap space to try to do something different in the offseason. All the players coming in are expiring contracts. This fits into the common Eastern teams want to trade their problems onto Western teams trope.

Lakers dump RWB, only move the 27 FRP and not both the 27/29 picks, Simmons wants to be in LA and there is enough offense to hide him, the Lakers will have Irving's full Bird Rights, so they can wait for the smoke to clear and resign him. LBJ and Irving have played together before, they can figure it out again. LBJ's influence plus Klutch Sports influence and the Nike influence through LBJ is enough to spin enough of the media narrative to "forgive" Irving. Need to get Irving as FAR from New Jersey as possible.

A Durant/RWB reunion is something that NBA HQ can try to market somehow.

 

[Anarchy99]

What team is depraved enough to want one of Kyrie - OR - Ben . . . let alone Kyrie - AND - Ben. That would be insanity to the infinity power.

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29qbz57q

Kyrie Irving

For

Tim Hardaway Jr
Christian Wood
Future protected first round pick


Wood is an expiring. THJr has 2 more years at 19 million each. He's overpaid, the argument for him is that his salary is 7 million more for an actual player instead of the possible 12.4 million cap hit for using the Stretch Provision on Irving for same three year period.

Better to get something rather than nothing.

Irving with Dallas gives Doncic that 2nd super star player to help make a push deeper into the playoffs. If the Mavericks get another star, it's either in the draft or a trade. It's just not a prime FA destination. Irving is a no filter type of talker, that might play better in Texas than in New Jersey/New York. With Irving's full Bird Rights, Cuban can just resign him once the smoke clears a little.

 

[Tom Hagen]

I'd actually be interested to hear his thoughts on the 2020 presidential election. Not that I am interested in his opinion . . . I would just like to see what crazy things he had to say about it.

I would bet he thinks Kanye got the most votes but the illuminati fixed it so that he didn't win.

 

[Yo Mama]

What team is depraved enough to want one of Kyrie - OR - Ben . . . let alone Kyrie - AND - Ben. That would be insanity to the infinity power.

I’d love to be able to say it’s not the lakers, but nothing would surprise me.

 

[dickey moe]

seriously though.. aging player, selfish player, can't get to the basket regularly anymore. doesn't fit with Embiid. probably shouldn't on the floor at the same time anyways. maybe never played defense well, but at least at some point he tried now and again? not anymore.

some team out there thinks "we can win big with James Harden". it's not the Sixers.

would the sixers be better or worse without him this year i honestly dont have a good feel for that take that to the bank brohans

he's basically a 1/3 dimensional player now

no defense, apathetic, not getting to the basket anymore. he's down over 2 FT attempts per game this season. ppg is in decline. rebounds, assists, steals all down from last year.

3 point attempts and makes down. percentage down.

he's in decline and not the kind of guy who is going to work hard to get it back. wouldn't be shocked to see James pack on 60 like that guy who played pg, got fat and turned in to a point power forward (whose name is escaping me at the moment).


he's 33. gotta package that kind of guy and get max value now before he turns in to Oliver Miller, but thinks he's 23 and still wants to dominate the ball with a much better player on the court.

Boris Diaw?

Antoine Walker?

Fat Lever?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

As a 40 year Nets fan I cant believe how bad this is and I lived through Coach Cal and a 15 win season - team in shambles - no picks - no future - constant embarrassment - leave it to the Nets to build the one "superteam" that becomes a complete failure - cant wait for the 30/30

Would love a poll of who damaged the Nets more -

Billy King with that horrific Celtics trade or Kyrie?

they do have 2 firsts from the sixers...

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2y49qgvf


Kyrie Irving

For

Jae Crowder
Landry Shamet
Dario Saric
Duane Washington Jr

The Suns have a very very very small remaining contention window. Irving pushes them over the top. Chris Paul is head of the players representation for the player side of the NBPA. He can probably run just enough interference via the NBPA to protect Irving in the media for a while.

Crowder wants to be traded anyway and he's basically dead cap/a dead roster spot to Phoenix right now. Saric is useful but not impossible to replace. Shamet is also useful but probably overpaid at this point.

New Jersey gets something better than nothing. At least there will be some veterans to help Durant. All are expiring except Shamet. And Shamet at a 9.5 AAV for three more years should be tradeable almost immediately. Would require the Suns to find some ring chasers at the vets minimum to round out the roster, but those should be moderately easy to find once the buyout part of the season starts.

Might give Suns fans some Hornacek team flashbacks with some hard ball three guard alignments ( Irving, Paul and Booker) with head scratching bottom of the barrel scraping defensive ability.

 

[Anarchy99]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2y49qgvf


Kyrie Irving

For

Jae Crowder
Landry Shamet
Dario Saric
Duane Washington Jr

The Suns have a very very very small remaining contention window. Irving pushes them over the top. Chris Paul is head of the players representation for the player side of the NBPA. He can probably run just enough interference via the NBPA to protect Irving in the media for a while.

Crowder wants to be traded anyway and he's basically dead cap/a dead roster spot to Phoenix right now. Saric is useful but not impossible to replace. Shamet is also useful but probably overpaid at this point.

New Jersey gets something better than nothing. At least there will be some veterans to help Durant. All are expiring except Shamet. And Shamet at a 9.5 AAV for three more years should be tradeable almost immediately. Would require the Suns to find some ring chasers at the vets minimum to round out the roster, but those should be moderately easy to find once the buyout part of the season starts.

Might give Suns fans some Hornacek team flashbacks with some hard ball three guard alignments ( Irving, Paul and Booker) with head scratching bottom of the barrel scraping defensive ability.

Forgetting the players involved and the salary matching gymnastics of a trade for a minute, but would a legit contender want to risk the potential cancer and flesh-eating bacteria that Kyrie could bring that could eat away at a team from the inside out?

 

[Capella]

None of these Kyrie trades are remotely realistic. No way the Lakers are trading a first-round pick for him. Hornets aren’t good enough to deal with the fallout. Suns don’t need the distraction.

I guess I could see Dallas or the Knicks doing it. That’s about it imo.

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25cbmf5w


Ben Simmons

For

Luke Kennard
Robert Covington
Brandon Boston Jr
2 Protected First Round Picks ( from two of the 28/29/30 drafts)

New Jersey lost a lot of picks in the Harden trade. This is a pure salary dump on both sides. But Simmons wants to play in LA and that change of scenery might motivate him. This allows the Clippers to use the Ibaka trade exception before it expires.

It's mostly scraps for the Nets, but Simmons trade value is falling like a rock.

Both Paul George and Kawhi Leonard can play well off the ball and are highly effective in transition. Letting Simmons run out as a point center does lean into some old school Triangle concepts, but it's not a completely impossible fit.

 

[Kev4029]

As a 40 year Nets fan I cant believe how bad this is and I lived through Coach Cal and a 15 win season - team in shambles - no picks - no future - constant embarrassment - leave it to the Nets to build the one "superteam" that becomes a complete failure - cant wait for the 30/30

Would love a poll of who damaged the Nets more -

Billy King with that horrific Celtics trade or Kyrie?

The Nets still have something of an out with Kevin Durant, especially if they actually go into full rebuild mode. Could the Grizz get there with the full suite of picks and something built around Brooks, Green, and Jones (after Jan 15)? What about the Pels with Valanciunas, a couple of their mid salary guys, and a handful of picks from their chest of picks? Same thing for the Knicks - they have lots of flotsam and a ton of picks available.

The Nets backed themselves into a corner, but it's nowhere near the Nets circa 2014 or whatever.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25cbmf5w


Ben Simmons

For

Luke Kennard
Robert Covington
Brandon Boston Jr
2 Protected First Round Picks ( from two of the 28/29/30 drafts)

New Jersey lost a lot of picks in the Harden trade. This is a pure salary dump on both sides. But Simmons wants to play in LA and that change of scenery might motivate him. This allows the Clippers to use the Ibaka trade exception before it expires.

It's mostly scraps for the Nets, but Simmons trade value is falling like a rock.

Both Paul George and Kawhi Leonard can play well off the ball and are highly effective in transition. Letting Simmons run out as a point center does lean into some old school Triangle concepts, but it's not a completely impossible fit.

way too much to give up for simmons

 

[Chemical X]

None of these Kyrie trades are remotely realistic. No way the Lakers are trading a first-round pick for him. Hornets aren’t good enough to deal with the fallout. Suns don’t need the distraction.

I guess I could see Dallas or the Knicks doing it. That’s about it imo.

knicks have no reason to deal players after signing brunson and for 1/2 year of a guy that insulted 1/2 the population of brooklyn. it’s great that kyrie is passionate about his beliefs and make no mistake, these are his beliefs. he can donate as much money as he wants everywhere, but a leopard always shows it’s spots.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Such an embarrassment for us Net fans. Been a fan since 1985. Kyrie has been a disaster. Don’t get me wrong Ii was a huge Kyrie fan and thought he was an excellent addition. Having Durant, Harden, and Kyrie would lead the Nets to a championship I thought. Buy was I wrong.

 

[jm192]

I guess he probably really believes this stuff.

Wow. Worse than I thought it was going to be. Similar to kanye.

Noticed a few Facebook friends from high-school spreading this stuff lately. Giving it visibility has an impact.

100% Kanye and Kyrie have amplified this. Twitter is a cesspool. I have a few "friends" who believe this as well as flat-earth and other conspiracies and they are feeling vindication and being loud.

Kyrie is really running the full playbook. Flat earth, anti vaxxer, this latest thing and god knows how many others.

And this is a guy who will tell anyone who will listen that he is the smartest guy in the room. And I think he really believes it. Very cringe worthy.

This. He thinks he's so much smarter than everyone else that no one is questioning his insane answers. CANNOT stand the guy.

 

[Frostillicus]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22pj4aes

Kyrie Irving for D'Angelo Russell.

Both expriring contracts. Nets get a guy who was an all-star for them not that long ago which is better than not playing Kyrie Irving. Wolves upgrade at point guard and, since Russell was most likely going to be too expensive for them anyway, losing Kyrie doesn't put them in any worse of a position next offseason than they'd be in anyway.

 

[Sammy3469]

I think y'all are fooling yourselves if you think either Kyrie or Simmons gets the Nets a first round pick back in any trade. Both those dudes are so radioactive that the Nets would have to pay to get them off the books and that includes Kyrie for Westbrook straight up.

 

[SWC]

damn kgb come on man take the banks of the jordan brohans

 

[Major]

Kyrie for Scola and Brooks imo

 

[Moe.]

As a 40 year Nets fan I cant believe how bad this is and I lived through Coach Cal and a 15 win season - team in shambles - no picks - no future - constant embarrassment - leave it to the Nets to build the one "superteam" that becomes a complete failure - cant wait for the 30/30

Would love a poll of who damaged the Nets more -

Billy King with that horrific Celtics trade or Kyrie?

The Nets still have something of an out with Kevin Durant, especially if they actually go into full rebuild mode. Could the Grizz get there with the full suite of picks and something built around Brooks, Green, and Jones (after Jan 15)? What about the Pels with Valanciunas, a couple of their mid salary guys, and a handful of picks from their chest of picks? Same thing for the Knicks - they have lots of flotsam and a ton of picks available.

The Nets backed themselves into a corner, but it's nowhere near the Nets circa 2014 or whatever.

This makes a lot of sense. I think trading Durant is the play.

 

[Eephus]

Warriors are load managing Curry, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond on a back to back in New Orleans. Should see plenty of garbage time minutes from the young guys.

 

[Capella]

Kyrie for Scola and Brooks imo

Man we’ve been reading about bad trades in here for a while.

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2y49qgvf

Forgetting the players involved and the salary matching gymnastics of a trade for a minute, but would a legit contender want to risk the potential cancer and flesh-eating bacteria that Kyrie could bring that could eat away at a team from the inside out?

Teams won't be trading for Irving as much as trading for his full Bird Rights.

It's the power of full Bird Rights that the Warriors got it's Death Lineup in Durant, Curry,Thompson, Iggy and Draymond Green and made the money work.

Teams in a current contention window are usually tax paying teams, or repeater tax paying teams, or trapped by at least one bad contract somewhere. They typically have no practical cap flexibility.

Irving, whatever people think of him personally, is a proven offensive engine. He can consistently create his own shot at will. Running a 2nd unit with that level of offensive firepower is a huge uplift for a contending team.

Full Bird Rights means the Suns can resign Irving even while paying into the luxury tax. Otherwise it's the Tax Payers MLE or the vet's minimum. Most contending teams have to carve up their MLE just to sign lower salary roster depth and sign their 2nd rounders and UDFAs. You just aren't getting a player of Irving's caliber for the tax payers MLE.

Once the Mid Level Exception changed in form, the league salary structure made it more critical for a franchise to have the full Bird Rights to as many players as possible, even if they ended up not using them later in contract extensions. Without Durant's full Bird Rights, the Warriors don't get DLo, then don't have the option to trade DLo for Wiggins and the pick that ended up as Kuminga. They don't win a ring without Wiggins. The difference between Durant leaving as a street free agent or the actual eventual sign and trade was a huge difference maker. D'Angelo Russell was effectively traded to the Warriors for Durant's full Bird Rights, that way the team could sign Kyrie Irving to a street free agent max. And have some money leftover to sign other help ( They wasted it by overpaying DeAndre Jordan, but the point remains that money wouldn't be there without Durant's full Bird Rights being held by the Nets)

 

[GordonGekko]

Warriors are load managing Curry, Klay, Wiggins and Draymond on a back to back in New Orleans. Should see plenty of garbage time minutes from the young guys.

I'm not sure how @Charlie Steiner would feel about this, but out of all the young Warriors players, I still believe Moses Moody will still end up having the best overall career ( Over Wiseman, Kuminga, Baldwin Jr, Rollins and yes even Poole )

By seasons end, Moody will be a core part of the Dub's rotation. He's a legitimate fundamental high floor 3 And D wing. On a rookie contract. That's the most valuable young asset a team can have in the modern NBA. And with a team so deep into the repeater tax, he's double the value for the Warriors roster.

The opportunity is there. Porter Jr and Payton II are gone. Thompson tragically is in decline and Poole is not a great defender. If the Warriors can get a Mikal Bridges 2.0, that's a core piece for the future.

 

[jhib]

Watching the Nets tonight without Irving is so much more enjoyable than any other of their games I've tuned into so far this year.
I don't really care what they do with the guy at this point.

 

[GordonGekko]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25cbmf5w


Ben Simmons

For

Luke Kennard
Robert Covington
Brandon Boston Jr
2 Protected First Round Picks ( from two of the 28/29/30 drafts)

way too much to give up for simmons

The further the draft picks are away, the less they are worth to a current sitting GM. He likely won't be there to use them.

Most protected first rounders have provisions to convert to two 2nd rounders if the protections hold for long enough. Many protected first round picks are traded with the intention of actually being two 2nds, but it saves face for the other GM to say he got a first round pick in a trade.

Kennard and RoCo are roster chaff. Salary ballast. An engaged and committed Simmons can be potentially more useful. Likely? We don't know. Losing Kennard's shooting is an issue, especially given Simmons doesn't shoot. But an offense with George and Leonard plus Reggie Jackson/John Wall should be just enough to hide him.

Put it this way, how hard would it be to replace Kennard, RoCo and Boston Jr with ring chasers? Certainly you won't get as much, but what if you could get 60-65 percent of their production in aggregate from other players on the vet's minimum? Even without ring chasers, John Wall gives them a bit of an uplift off the bench. Opening up minutes for Moses Brown and Terance Mann isn't a bad thing for this team.

You can't move Simmons without taking back salary ballast in some form.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Nike's statement on Kyrie

https://twitter.com/SaraEisen/status/1588689457703956487?s=20&t=8UA4ihF4uHUtehcjb7d5Wg

 

[Uncle Leo]

Kyrie bad mouthed his Sneaker Design in the past. I thought that relationship was done a while back. He is freaking crazy.

 

[GordonGekko]

I think y'all are fooling yourselves if you think either Kyrie or Simmons gets the Nets a first round pick back in any trade. Both those dudes are so radioactive that the Nets would have to pay to get them off the books and that includes Kyrie for Westbrook straight up.

Sprewell choked an NBA head coach and was in the Finals a few years later and beloved at MSG. I'm not saying that's fair or right, but if you can come back from that, then Irving can come back from this once the smoke clears.

I'm tossing around names like Luke Kennard, Christian Wood, Tim Hardaway Jr, Jae Crowder, Dario Saric, Landry Shamet, Russ Westbrick etc, etc. I mean what exactly do some of you guys want?

Irving, no matter his scandals, is a legitimate All Star level talent. Most of the potential trades mean the Nets have to take back ADDITIONAL YEARS as well. Not a clean salary dump.

The Lakers can try to salvage what's left of LBJ's practical remaining window or they don't. If they allow RWB's contract to naturally expire (what FA are they going to sign?) versus having Irving's full Bird Rights is a massive difference in terms of roster options for them.

Look at the 2023 Free Agent List

Harden is not leaving Morey and Philly and I have hard time seeing Khris Middleton walking to the Lakers. Will VanVleet leave the Raptors (he's got a player option as well)? Draymond Green? Porzingis? Myles Turner? DLo? Harrison Barnes?

The gross assumption being made is once the Lakers have open cap space again, that there are clearly better options than Irving. There might be, to be honest. But how likely? LA needs an impact player. Green is a Klutch client. Anyone want to see LBJ demand the Lakers overpay him?

 

[SWC]

stay strong brohans it is an all out assault here lately but we can do this take that to the bank brochachos

 

[GroveDiesel]

Not sure what Kuzma thinks he’s doing here…

 

[Frostillicus]

I think y'all are fooling yourselves if you think either Kyrie or Simmons gets the Nets a first round pick back in any trade. Both those dudes are so radioactive that the Nets would have to pay to get them off the books and that includes Kyrie for Westbrook straight up.

Sprewell

That's Timberwolves legend Latrell Sprewell, sir.

 

[DJackson10]

Nike's statement on Kyrie

https://twitter.com/SaraEisen/status/1588689457703956487?s=20&t=8UA4ihF4uHUtehcjb7d5Wg

Things you love to see only a matter of time before more come it. It's going to get to the point where Kyrie is just unplayable and then the league is stuck in a pickle.

 

[DJackson10]

I think y'all are fooling yourselves if you think either Kyrie or Simmons gets the Nets a first round pick back in any trade. Both those dudes are so radioactive that the Nets would have to pay to get them off the books and that includes Kyrie for Westbrook straight up.

Sprewell choked an NBA head coach and was in the Finals a few years later and beloved at MSG. I'm not saying that's fair or right, but if you can come back from that, then Irving can come back from this once the smoke clears.

I'm tossing around names like Luke Kennard, Christian Wood, Tim Hardaway Jr, Jae Crowder, Dario Saric, Landry Shamet, Russ Westbrick etc, etc. I mean what exactly do some of you guys want?

Irving, no matter his scandals, is a legitimate All Star level talent. Most of the potential trades mean the Nets have to take back ADDITIONAL YEARS as well. Not a clean salary dump.

The Lakers can try to salvage what's left of LBJ's practical remaining window or they don't. If they allow RWB's contract to naturally expire (what FA are they going to sign?) versus having Irving's full Bird Rights is a massive difference in terms of roster options for them.

Look at the 2023 Free Agent List

Harden is not leaving Morey and Philly and I have hard time seeing Khris Middleton walking to the Lakers. Will VanVleet leave the Raptors (he's got a player option as well)? Draymond Green? Porzingis? Myles Turner? DLo? Harrison Barnes?

The gross assumption being made is once the Lakers have open cap space again, that there are clearly better options than Irving. There might be, to be honest. But how likely? LA needs an impact player. Green is a Klutch client. Anyone want to see LBJ demand the Lakers overpay him?

Latrell Spreewell was a different time and breed. None of these guys besides Draymon Green would do that. Just go cry to their agents and try to force a trade.

 

[SWC]

why did this bucks wolves game start so late i am tired take that to the bank brohans

 

[Yo Mama]

I don’t think the Jazz have missed a shot tonight.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Hmmm

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

If desperate Lakers don't take on Kyrie, his NBA career is over

 

[General Malaise]

I think maybe Chauncey Billups is a good coach. That was a really good win tonight. Did it without his stars. Had Justice Winslow play point. Cool.