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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (1 Viewer)

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Turned on the Celtics game in the 4th and they were down 8. Immediately they go on an 8-0 run and end up winning by 4. Shot like garbage from 3, but Smart played great down the stretch. He is turning into the player he should have always been where he does his thing on defense and picks his spots on offense. I think maybe wikkid is in his ear every night now.
 
mr. furley said:
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Embiid with 59 points on just 28 fga, plus 11 rebounds, 8 assists and 7 blocks

Pretty…pretty…pretty good
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Poor Darius Garland and his 51 on 31 is just going to have to be second best tonight.
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I guess having done that against the top team in the league may give garland more cachet
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why are you all so mean?
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I’m from Philadelphia. Not sure what everyone else’s excuse is
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Phialdelphia fans are the best. we love you.
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Bet those smug losers aren't so happy this morning now are they.
 
man the bucks are banged up or maybe bangod up all i know is it would be nice if four of our top six or seven were actually able to play take that to the bank brohans
 
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SGA is sick
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I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but he might be the best 2 guard in the league. I don’t think OKC fans are surprised at what he’s doing this year at all, but Poku being good and Giddey rounding into form are excellent developments for the franchise. Dort continues to be really iffy on offense but he gives so much on the other end. It’s a genuinely exciting team to follow this year.

@jvdesigns2002 a lot can happen the rest of the way, but curious for your take on the Thunder’s season so far.
 
the moops said:
Moe. said:
I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but he might be the best 2 guard in the league
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Seems weird that he is considered a 2 guard. The only other PG on their team is Tre Mann and he is playing like 20 minutes a night and not starting
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I suppose they are all combo guards at this point but most consider Giddey to be the PG
 
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Moe. said:
the moops said:
Moe. said:
I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but he might be the best 2 guard in the league
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Seems weird that he is considered a 2 guard. The only other PG on their team is Tre Mann and he is playing like 20 minutes a night and not starting
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I suppose they are all combo guards at this point but most consider Giddey to be the PG
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I was curious what nba.com would have to say about their possession split...

SGA has 75.7 touches per game, Giddey has 75.8, Mann has 41.8
SGA holds the ball for 7.0 mpg, Giddey is at 4.4, Mann is at 2.7
SGA has 4.99 dribbles per touch, Giddey has 3.49, Mann has 3.94

They seem to have very similar ball handling duties, the difference being that SGA is a little slower to get the ball out of his hands.

Just for ****s and giggles and because I'm me... Jokic has 91.2 touches per game with a total of 4.1 mpg of possession, and 1.42 dribbles per touch. Not trying to compare, I just thought it would be interesting.
 
Moe. said:
the moops said:
SGA is sick
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I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but he might be the best 2 guard in the league. I don’t think OKC fans are surprised at what he’s doing this year at all, but Poku being good and Giddey rounding into form are excellent developments for the franchise. Dort continues to be really iffy on offense but he gives so much on the other end. It’s a genuinely exciting team to follow this year.

@jvdesigns2002 a lot can happen the rest of the way, but curious for your take on the Thunder’s season so far.
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I agree that Shai is not only one of the best 2 guards in the league, but he’s one of the best young stars in the league regardless of position. I collect sports cards, and I invested pretty heavily in Shai stuff when he was a rookie on the Clippers.

In regard to what I believe about the Thunder. I think they are playing very well and I think they are a team that is loaded with a lot of young talent. I think the team will only get better as they develop chemistry and get more experience playing together. With that said, I still firmly believe that the organization will be in full tank mode as the season progresses. Adam Silver has made comments and inferred that tanking is being monitored this season, so I think that a lot of teams are forced to try to make it look less obvious. With that said—I do think we’ll start to see some teams start to tank—and I fully expect OKC to be one of them. I personally don’t think they need to. Their core is young, their core is talented, and forcing guys like SGA to play in a losing culture can damage their learning curve and chemistry development. I hope that I’m wrong—as I like what the Thunder are doing so far this year.
 
Looking like Celtics streak may come to an end tonight vs Atlanta as both Brogdon and Smart are out. Trying to guard Trae & Murray without them will be very tough plus I expect the offense to come back down to earth a bit.

They are playing great basketball right now and getting contributions from a lot of guys, but I just think on the road without those two guys makes them very vulnerable.
 
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Looking like Celtics streak may come to an end tonight vs Atlanta as both Brogdon and Smart are out. Trying to guard Trae & Murray without them will be very tough plus I expect the offense to come back down to earth a bit.

They are playing great basketball right now and getting contributions from a lot of guys, but I just think on the road without those two guys makes them very vulnerable.
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Payton Pritchard is gonna go for 20 and 10
 
SWC said:
ja morant is unbelievable i saw that dunk last night and it blew my socks off serious i had to go pick them up on the other side of the room it was pretty awesome take that to the bank bromigos
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Just looked it up....

Wow

He was fouled on the play too

Uncalled
 
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Jayrod said:
Looking like Celtics streak may come to an end tonight vs Atlanta as both Brogdon and Smart are out. Trying to guard Trae & Murray without them will be very tough plus I expect the offense to come back down to earth a bit.

They are playing great basketball right now and getting contributions from a lot of guys, but I just think on the road without those two guys makes them very vulnerable.
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If only everyone was available. Might have won by 40 instead of 25.
 
Indiana has to be trying to figure out what the heck they even do at this point. Pretty sure even they thought that they would be terrible this year and rebuilding and focusing on trading pieces like Turner and Hield away. But suddenly they are a pretty decent team, Turner seems to fit well with the guys they have, and Halliburton and Mathurin are syncing well together and playing like stars.
 
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If only everyone was available. Might have won by 40 instead of 25.
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Watched the whole game.

They are committed to the three point shot on offense as their primary game. They started 5 guys that can all shoot at 33% or better and brought 2 guys off the bench that have 40%+ potential in Hauser and Pritchard. And they all have the green light whenever open.

The problem is when you over-commit on closeouts they can all hurt you off the dribble and with Tatum's passing leading the way, they move it around well.

Defensively, they can disrupt, have size across the board, force tough shots and generate some steals...they were helped by some poor shooting and stagnant offense from the Hawks, but again they were without their 2 best defensive guards against a tough Young/Murray guard tandem.

Biggest weakness was rebounding and they gave up a lot of second (and 3rd and 4th) chance points. But with the 3-pt shooting variance, it didn't matter enough.

Long story short, they are extremely difficult to guard and have room to improve defensively and on the glass. They may actually be the most complete team in the league when TimeLord comes back.
 
Some thoughts on the C's . . . can't complain too much about a 12-3 start.

- When the bench goes 10 for 16 from three and Sam Hauser is +35 in 27 minutes of playing time, Boston will not lose that game.
- The Celtics clock in at +4.6 three pointers made per game vs. their opponents. It's not hard to figure out why they lead the league in scoring and point differential and have the league's best record so far.
- Good news on the Rob Williams front. He's been cleared to practice and participate in non-contact scrimmages. He was interviewed at the game last night and reports no setbacks, feels great, and that they are not rushing him back. While no timeline on his return has been given, somewhere around Christmas seems doable.
- Sure, they are scoring at a record pace, but they are also allowing almost 10 ppg more than they did last year. That is partly due to having a faster pace of play, but that can only get you so far.
- I still am not convinced that the boost in scoring is sustainable. The role players that are pitching in big time didn't do that in the post-season last year. It's one thing to make uncontested threes in a blowout in the regular season. Call me when they knock down contested three when pressured in crunch time in the post-season.
- I am concerned that teams that are physical and pressure the ball will eventually be a problem. As we all know, the intensity gets ratcheted up in the playoffs, and teams won't let you fly up and down the court. Playoff games will be much more half court style than fast break style. That's fine if Boston gets back to playing defense entire games instead of in spurts.
- The starters have been playing a lot of minutes, and it's a long way to the finish line. Tatum ranks 3rd, Brown 7th, Smart 54th, and Horford 68th in minutes played per game. Al is averaging the same playing time at 36 as he was at 31. We saw last year many of the players wore down and were not the same or as productive by the end of the season.
- They clearly want to ride or die in chucking up threes all game. That's great when they are falling, no so great when they aren't. That leads to quarters with 42 points and others with 14. I still question the logic in taking the first open three early in the shot clock when up by 15 points with 10 minutes in the game, but that's what Mazzulla wants them doing.
- One big accomplishment so far this season has been the reduction in turnovers. White is averaging 5.3 assists per turnover and Smart 4.3. That puts both of them in the Top 8 in the league.
- Overall, their turnovers have only dropped from 13 to 12.5 per game, but their ranking went from 14th to 3rd. Last year, they were at 14 TO per 100 possessions (14th) and this year are at 12.8 (2nd). Compared to some games in the playoffs when they were at 20+ turnovers, they have been much better so far.
- The Celtics are rumored to have interest in SA center Jakob Poeltl as a 7'1" option for help rebounding, interior defense, and scoring in the paint. That would help peel away some minutes from Horford.
 
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- I still am not convinced that the boost in scoring is sustainable. The role players that are pitching in big time didn't do that in the post-season last year. It's one thing to make uncontested threes in a blowout in the regular season. Call me when they knock down contested three when pressured in crunch time in the post-season.
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Here are my arguments for why it IS sustainable:
  • The Evolution of Tatum - he has added more layers to his game, making his PPG of 30+ likely sustainable for the season and creating easier looks for everyone. He actually shot horribly last night and it didn't hurt them at all.
  • Grant Williams - he shot well all last year and in the playoffs, we know he can and will likely sustain 40+% (although he is currently at 50%, so may be a bit hot right now).
  • Adding Malcolm Brogdon - he is a better and more complete offensive player than anyone besides the Jays, and at full strength he is the 6th man and puts more pressure on the defense with the second unit than anything White could do last season.
  • Marcus Smart - he is chucking less and passing more. As long as it is working, he is intelligent enough to continue playing this way. He is only shooting 29.2% from 3 and could actually improve the teams numbers.
  • Pace of Play - they are currently ranked #17 in the league at 99 pos/gm, so hardly some record-breaking pace. It is likely sustainable with a bit of focus/effort, which they are making it a priority.
  • Increased focus/attention on 3's - it is becoming their offensive identity, so they focus on it, they think about it and the practice it. You tend to be good at the things you focus your time/energy on. Teams (i.e. GSW, MIL, etc.) have been doing it for years now.
  • Hauser & Pritchard are great shooters - that is why they were ever drafted and on the roster in the first place. No surprise that is what they are doing well. With both of them the issue will always be defense, not shooting.
 
I’m a little irritated every single NBA podcast has had a “maybe the Kings are good!” segment this week. It has virtually guaranteed that they’ll get boat raced by the Spurs at home tonight.
 
Saw a podcast with A. Sherrod Blakely last night, who said he's seen Timelord in practice and spoke with him after. Blakely is suggesting Williams will be ready to return very soon. Rob said he won't play tonight against the Pels, but it sounds like he could be back any day now. If people haven't noticed, Williams has been at the games and with the team lately (which he had not been earlier in the season). Williams sounded like he could play right now if he had to. He certainly wants to play ASAP. That being said, who knows how long he will have to wait to see live action. We can debate if Boston should hold him out a lot longer given they are rolling right now.
 
Looking forward to tonight's matchup with the C's! Will be a good gauge of how good we are. I think we are pretty damn good, but this may be a reality check. I know we will be competitive and I know the C's are coming into a hostile environment. Our defense will be the deciding factor. It's hit and miss. My bold prediction: Pels by 3. :boxing:
 
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Looking forward to tonight's matchup with the C's! Will be a good gauge of how good we are. I think we are pretty damn good, but this may be a reality check. I know we will be competitive and I know the C's are coming into a hostile environment. Our defense will be the deciding factor. It's hit and miss. My bold prediction: Pels by 3. :boxing:
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Is Zion expected to play? He's listed as questionable. Boston won both games last year with Zion out (by 12 and 10 points). In the regular season in games played in 2022, Boston has gone 56-15 (.789). If the numbers play out like they have so far this season, BOS should be +5 tonight in three pointers made. That's a lot of point to catch up in other areas. ESPN' BPI has the C's as a 57% favorite and 538 at 56%. IMO, Celts win if Williamson doesn't play, Pels win if he does.
 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Looking forward to tonight's matchup with the C's! Will be a good gauge of how good we are. I think we are pretty damn good, but this may be a reality check. I know we will be competitive and I know the C's are coming into a hostile environment. Our defense will be the deciding factor. It's hit and miss. My bold prediction: Pels by 3. :boxing:
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Zion is still questionable and Brogdon is expected to play. Game isn't on a national broadcast, though.
 
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