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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (3 Viewers)

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Looking forward to tonight's matchup with the C's! Will be a good gauge of how good we are. I think we are pretty damn good, but this may be a reality check. I know we will be competitive and I know the C's are coming into a hostile environment. Our defense will be the deciding factor. It's hit and miss. My bold prediction: Pels by 3. :boxing:
Is Zion expected to play? He's listed as questionable. Boston won both games last year with Zion out (by 12 and 10 points). In the regular season in games played in 2022, Boston has gone 56-15 (.789). If the numbers play out like they have so far this season, BOS should be +5 tonight in three pointers made. That's a lot of point to catch up in other areas. ESPN' BPI has the C's as a 57% favorite and 538 at 56%. IMO, Celts win if Williamson doesn't play, Pels win if he does.
Last I heard from our team reporter, he is not expected to play. I think he could play, but they are just being super cautious with him. And I'm fine with that at this point. We've played very well without him as long as we've had 2 out of the 3 of Zion, B.I. and CJ. We have excellent depth and they've figured out good rotations for different matchups.
 
Looking forward to tonight's matchup with the C's! Will be a good gauge of how good we are. I think we are pretty damn good, but this may be a reality check. I know we will be competitive and I know the C's are coming into a hostile environment. Our defense will be the deciding factor. It's hit and miss. My bold prediction: Pels by 3. :boxing:
Is Zion expected to play? He's listed as questionable. Boston won both games last year with Zion out (by 12 and 10 points). In the regular season in games played in 2022, Boston has gone 56-15 (.789). If the numbers play out like they have so far this season, BOS should be +5 tonight in three pointers made. That's a lot of point to catch up in other areas. ESPN' BPI has the C's as a 57% favorite and 538 at 56%. IMO, Celts win if Williamson doesn't play, Pels win if he does.
Last I heard from our team reporter, he is not expected to play. I think he could play, but they are just being super cautious with him. And I'm fine with that at this point. We've played very well without him as long as we've had 2 out of the 3 of Zion, B.I. and CJ. We have excellent depth and they've figured out good rotations for different matchups.
In the Celtics 7 wins in their hot streak with Tatum and Brown playing, those two are averaging 55 points combined while the bench has been chipping in nearly 40 points a night. That's 95 points and does not even account for their other 3 starters (which is another 40 ppg). They have become a pick your poison team in trying to defend them. Maybe the Pels can disrupt them, but Boston has looked like a freight train on offense so far.
 
maybe the celtics are actually made of poison so if you pick up any of them on defense you are actually picking up poison it is unlikely but never rule anything out until you know take that to the bank brohan
 
Lamelo injured again. The Hornets deeply need to lean into their poor record and find a way to get Rozier and/or Hayward off the books for next year.
 
Giannis with the 4 for 15 at the line effort. Channeling his inner Ben Simmons. Yeesh.
The difference being (and this is why I love him) Giannis will keep being aggressive and actively work on his FT shooting.

Interesting minor incident happened when he practiced after the game.

 

Interesting minor incident happened when he practiced after the game.

https://twitter.com/JoshReynolds24/status/1593817131442806785?t=MMjVa3-lNQhz7ZOswUhxig&s=19
Shout out to Sixers scrub and random arena guy for protecting the sanctity of the court a few minutes after the game.
 

Interesting minor incident happened when he practiced after the game.

https://twitter.com/JoshReynolds24/status/1593817131442806785?t=MMjVa3-lNQhz7ZOswUhxig&s=19
Shout out to Sixers scrub and random arena guy for protecting the sanctity of the court a few minutes after the game.
Weird. Wouldn’t expect it in a classy sports town like Philly.
 
Nice win C's. Man, if we could've made HALF of our transition baskets, we would've won that game. Or if you guys had missed ANY damn shots! :lol: Hell of a team. We played pretty good defensively and I never felt like we were out of the game, even down by 16. Battled right back to within 5 or 6, just couldn't get over that hump bc we kept blowing easy putbacks and fastbreaks. It takes playing a great team to see where your team is, and I'm satisfied with what I saw last night. We are vastly improved over last year. Going to be a fun season.
 
In the last 2:48 of OT in the Wiz/Heat game, neither team scored. No free throws made. Nothing. Wiz outscored Heat 3 to 2 in entire OT. Ugly.
 
Giannis with the 4 for 15 at the line effort. Channeling his inner Ben Simmons. Yeesh.
The difference being (and this is why I love him) Giannis will keep being aggressive and actively work on his FT shooting.

Interesting minor incident happened when he practiced after the game.


Montrez Harrell stole the ball from Giannis after he shot a FT under the basket. I was there at the game last night only because my Cousin gets a suit from Wells Fargo being an employee at their bank plus I wanted to See Giannis. We were talking to friends of his when it went down. We didn't know what exactly happened but it wasn't random seeing an opposing player shoot hoops after. DeMar DeRozen did this after the Bulls played here last year and there was zero incident. Opposing players are allowed to shoot after games but I'm not sure if there's a time limit. Giannis went and got two more balls minute he went to the line 76ers court people put a ladder up at the basket blocking him. At this point Montrez Harrel is shooting at other end without incident. 76ers employees ignored his request of what was going on. He shouldn't of took the ladder down but the employees were flat out ignoring him. 2 Security guys near us were getting radioed but nothing big happened. The one guy said the staff should've told Giannis they needed a minute to take equipment off the basket as ESPN had stuff on there they needed to take down.

All while this is going on Harrell is running his mouth at Giannis still I couldn't make out what he was saying because he was speaking in a lot of slang so it was hard to make out anything he said. Giannis Brother THanis came out and said something to Harrell who threatened to fight Thianis who walked away without further incident. It was just a weird situation especially since it was a bench warmer. If this was Joel Embiid or a starter then I could see maybe something featured over from the game but it was so weird. The Athletic had a nice breakdown of it all and it seems the incident started because Harrell wanted to act like a child. At least Doc is coaching them well in one thing and thats constantly acting like babies which all his teams end up being by the end of his tenure.

 
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Nice win C's. Man, if we could've made HALF of our transition baskets, we would've won that game. Or if you guys had missed ANY damn shots! :lol: Hell of a team. We played pretty good defensively and I never felt like we were out of the game, even down by 16. Battled right back to within 5 or 6, just couldn't get over that hump bc we kept blowing easy putbacks and fastbreaks. It takes playing a great team to see where your team is, and I'm satisfied with what I saw last night. We are vastly improved over last year. Going to be a fun season.
The Pels are definitely one of the most enjoyable teams to watch and root for.

BI and McCollum are tough to stop, Jones' defense is elite and Aranado's a great energy/bench guy. I think they lean too heavily on Valanciunas on offense. When Williamson is back, Jonas needs to be a role player only.
 
So, what is wrong with Dallas?

Luka is supposed to be a top MVP candidate, but they have had some bad losses lately. Does he just have no help whatsoever? Haven't watched their games lately, but losing to Denver without Jokic, Murray or Gordon on your home floor just looks bad.
 
So, what is wrong with Dallas?

Luka is supposed to be a top MVP candidate, but they have had some bad losses lately. Does he just have no help whatsoever? Haven't watched their games lately, but losing to Denver without Jokic, Murray or Gordon on your home floor just looks bad.
That game ending shot was horrific.
 
So, what is wrong with Dallas?

Luka is supposed to be a top MVP candidate, but they have had some bad losses lately. Does he just have no help whatsoever? Haven't watched their games lately, but losing to Denver without Jokic, Murray or Gordon on your home floor just looks bad.
They just don't show up for these nothing games. Literally beating all the good teams and sleepwalking against bad ones. Josh Green was the only guy on Dallas who showed up.

Not to mention, for whatever it's worth, they just demolished the same Denver squad Friday. It's always tough to immediately play a team you just killed. They still should have won.

Plus the officiating was horrific tonight. Dallas got screwed to a total of like a 10 point swing on multiple weird-*** calls. And a "I guess technically correct but never seen it before" ruling that took away the 3 pointer to end the half, gave 2 seconds to Denver, and they inbounded and let the guy launch from beyond half court and he drained it. 7 point lead going into the lockerroom and they came back out and magically it was now a 1 point lead lol.

There's also a little something of the total lack of a good play and stupidity at end of game. While they did screw up the clock and cost the team about 1 second on the final play, AND they messed up the timeout and forced Dallas to burn an extra one to advance the ball (replay shows TO called prior to Luka dribbling)...they have 3.5 seconds and the shot they get is a 30 foot fadeaway by Luka, not open? Grossly bad.
 
Giannis with the 4 for 15 at the line effort. Channeling his inner Ben Simmons. Yeesh.
The difference being (and this is why I love him) Giannis will keep being aggressive and actively work on his FT shooting.

Interesting minor incident happened when he practiced after the game.


Montrez Harrell stole the ball from Giannis after he shot a FT under the basket. I was there at the game last night only because my Cousin gets a suit from Wells Fargo being an employee at their bank plus I wanted to See Giannis. We were talking to friends of his when it went down. We didn't know what exactly happened but it wasn't random seeing an opposing player shoot hoops after. DeMar DeRozen did this after the Bulls played here last year and there was zero incident. Opposing players are allowed to shoot after games but I'm not sure if there's a time limit. Giannis went and got two more balls minute he went to the line 76ers court people put a ladder up at the basket blocking him. At this point Montrez Harrel is shooting at other end without incident. 76ers employees ignored his request of what was going on. He shouldn't of took the ladder down but the employees were flat out ignoring him. 2 Security guys near us were getting radioed but nothing big happened. The one guy said the staff should've told Giannis they needed a minute to take equipment off the basket as ESPN had stuff on there they needed to take down.

All while this is going on Harrell is running his mouth at Giannis still I couldn't make out what he was saying because he was speaking in a lot of slang so it was hard to make out anything he said. Giannis Brother THanis came out and said something to Harrell who threatened to fight Thianis who walked away without further incident. It was just a weird situation especially since it was a bench warmer. If this was Joel Embiid or a starter then I could see maybe something featured over from the game but it was so weird. The Athletic had a nice breakdown of it all and it seems the incident started because Harrell wanted to act like a child. At least Doc is coaching them well in one thing and thats constantly acting like babies which all his teams end up being by the end of his tenure.

i appreciate this report the guys on with czabe on sports talk here are all over this and it has been fun to listen to take that to the bank brohans
 
Giannis with the 4 for 15 at the line effort. Channeling his inner Ben Simmons. Yeesh.
The difference being (and this is why I love him) Giannis will keep being aggressive and actively work on his FT shooting.

Interesting minor incident happened when he practiced after the game.


Montrez Harrell stole the ball from Giannis after he shot a FT under the basket. I was there at the game last night only because my Cousin gets a suit from Wells Fargo being an employee at their bank plus I wanted to See Giannis. We were talking to friends of his when it went down. We didn't know what exactly happened but it wasn't random seeing an opposing player shoot hoops after. DeMar DeRozen did this after the Bulls played here last year and there was zero incident. Opposing players are allowed to shoot after games but I'm not sure if there's a time limit. Giannis went and got two more balls minute he went to the line 76ers court people put a ladder up at the basket blocking him. At this point Montrez Harrel is shooting at other end without incident. 76ers employees ignored his request of what was going on. He shouldn't of took the ladder down but the employees were flat out ignoring him. 2 Security guys near us were getting radioed but nothing big happened. The one guy said the staff should've told Giannis they needed a minute to take equipment off the basket as ESPN had stuff on there they needed to take down.

All while this is going on Harrell is running his mouth at Giannis still I couldn't make out what he was saying because he was speaking in a lot of slang so it was hard to make out anything he said. Giannis Brother THanis came out and said something to Harrell who threatened to fight Thianis who walked away without further incident. It was just a weird situation especially since it was a bench warmer. If this was Joel Embiid or a starter then I could see maybe something featured over from the game but it was so weird. The Athletic had a nice breakdown of it all and it seems the incident started because Harrell wanted to act like a child. At least Doc is coaching them well in one thing and thats constantly acting like babies which all his teams end up being by the end of his tenure.

i appreciate this report the guys on with czabe on sports talk here are all over this and it has been fun to listen to take that to the bank brohans

The philly media here is acting like Giannis is the devil but no one is mentioning how Harrell instigated the whole thing and how the on court staff ignored Giannis. The Athletic was probably the most unbiased report of it all and had a a witness or two there plus got video of what caused the initial reaction of Harrel taking the ball. If Roles were reversed and this was Embiid they'd be saying how Joel is working on his game and the on court staff deserved it. It's pretty laughable the hypocrisy.
 
The Celtics have now lost 4 games.
- 2 games in OT to Cleveland
- 2 games in regulation to Chicago (including tonight)

Tonight wasn't ever really close. DeRozan and Lavine both had it rolling on offense and Horford was abysmal offensively, going 0-9 and 0-7 from 3.
 
Didn't see this mentioned above... crazy.


TL;DR: Luka makes a 3 at halftime buzzer. Teams go to the locker room for halftime. Since it was an end of quarter shot it gets reviewed automatically. He was standing on the out of bounds line. So AFTER HALFTIME, the teams come out and they put :02 back on the clock for the 2nd quarter. Denver inbounds it and MAKES a half court shot. 6-point swing. Then they play the second half. Denver wins by 1.
 
Oh, and Pels 2nd highest margin of victory in franchise history (45) against the W's last night. No Steph and Klay but still. :coffee:
Playing without Klay isn't a big deal - he's been possibly the worst starter in the NBA this year other than his one big game. Outside of Wiggins, Looney, Green, and Curry, their roster has been awful. It's crazy that Curry can be having his best season of his career and the Warriors are 8-10 with the 24th worst net rating. FiveThirtyEight has them in the play-in with both their Elo and RAPTOR projections.😬
 
Oh, and Pels 2nd highest margin of victory in franchise history (45) against the W's last night. No Steph and Klay but still. :coffee:
Playing without Klay isn't a big deal - he's been possibly the worst starter in the NBA this year other than his one big game. Outside of Wiggins, Looney, Green, and Curry, their roster has been awful. It's crazy that Curry can be having his best season of his career and the Warriors are 8-10 with the 24th worst net rating. FiveThirtyEight has them in the play-in with both their Elo and RAPTOR projections.😬
Based on PER, Klay ranks 213th out of 286 players that qualify. There are 19 players that average 25+ minutes ranked beneath him.
 
Oh, and Pels 2nd highest margin of victory in franchise history (45) against the W's last night. No Steph and Klay but still. :coffee:
Playing without Klay isn't a big deal - he's been possibly the worst starter in the NBA this year other than his one big game. Outside of Wiggins, Looney, Green, and Curry, their roster has been awful. It's crazy that Curry can be having his best season of his career and the Warriors are 8-10 with the 24th worst net rating. FiveThirtyEight has them in the play-in with both their Elo and RAPTOR projections.😬
Based on PER, Klay ranks 213th out of 286 players that qualify. There are 19 players that average 25+ minutes ranked beneath him.
Prior to his last game, he has a TS% of .483, ORtg of 93 and a DRtg of 117. I don't know what his PER was, but I'm guessing pretty close to signal digits. It was unfair to call him the worst starter in the league when Jabari Smith has started 16 games and guys like Reggie Bullock and Pat Beverly have gotten off to even worse starts.

In looking at all the terrible players so far, Dallas really stands out. Bullock has a PER of 4.8 and a TS% of .440, Kleber has a PER of 7.0 and a TS% of .506, and DFS has a per of 8.3 and a TS% of .536. Tim Hardaway Jr hasn't been much better, either. Not great when those 4 are half of their projected playoff rotation.
 
this may not be the right place to ask but, Michael Pena (Pina??) and Bill Simmons kind of touched in this in passing at the end of one of the recent podcasts... does it feel like the bottom of NBA rosters have improved dramatically in recent seasons? and how much of that is due to the G League cycling in young guys with some seasoning on cheaper contracts vs. older vets hanging on with bloated contracts rounding out rosters?

has the G League improved the overall product? will the player's union push back to preserve the contracts of older players? or are they going to support the existence of the G League to get more younger guys jobs.. thus pushing older, unproductive players out?


feels like maybe the days of guys like DeAndre Jordan staying in the league 4-5 years past their useful years, on ridiculous contracts, is coming to an end with those kinds of guys being replaced by younger guys who got run in the G League. where even 5-6 years ago those young guys would have languished on the end of NBA benches getting no minutes before washing out of the league without a chance to prove themselves.
 
i mean the bucks are deep as hell and have a pretty good end of the bench heck they got this record without having middleton at all and missing paddy and holiday for most of the season so far last night it was great to see holiday and lucky charms back on the court but maybe the bucks are an onomoly take that to the bank bromigos
 
Oh, and Pels 2nd highest margin of victory in franchise history (45) against the W's last night. No Steph and Klay but still. :coffee:
Playing without Klay isn't a big deal - he's been possibly the worst starter in the NBA this year other than his one big game. Outside of Wiggins, Looney, Green, and Curry, their roster has been awful. It's crazy that Curry can be having his best season of his career and the Warriors are 8-10 with the 24th worst net rating. FiveThirtyEight has them in the play-in with both their Elo and RAPTOR projections.😬
Based on PER, Klay ranks 213th out of 286 players that qualify. There are 19 players that average 25+ minutes ranked beneath him.
Prior to his last game, he has a TS% of .483, ORtg of 93 and a DRtg of 117. I don't know what his PER was, but I'm guessing pretty close to signal digits. It was unfair to call him the worst starter in the league when Jabari Smith has started 16 games and guys like Reggie Bullock and Pat Beverly have gotten off to even worse starts.

In looking at all the terrible players so far, Dallas really stands out. Bullock has a PER of 4.8 and a TS% of .440, Kleber has a PER of 7.0 and a TS% of .506, and DFS has a per of 8.3 and a TS% of .536. Tim Hardaway Jr hasn't been much better, either. Not great when those 4 are half of their projected playoff rotation.
Bullock has been SO BAD. It never ever feels like the ball is going in and it doesnt feel like he's guarding anyone either.
 
Oh, and Pels 2nd highest margin of victory in franchise history (45) against the W's last night. No Steph and Klay but still. :coffee:
Playing without Klay isn't a big deal - he's been possibly the worst starter in the NBA this year other than his one big game. Outside of Wiggins, Looney, Green, and Curry, their roster has been awful. It's crazy that Curry can be having his best season of his career and the Warriors are 8-10 with the 24th worst net rating. FiveThirtyEight has them in the play-in with both their Elo and RAPTOR projections.😬
Based on PER, Klay ranks 213th out of 286 players that qualify. There are 19 players that average 25+ minutes ranked beneath him.
Prior to his last game, he has a TS% of .483, ORtg of 93 and a DRtg of 117. I don't know what his PER was, but I'm guessing pretty close to signal digits. It was unfair to call him the worst starter in the league when Jabari Smith has started 16 games and guys like Reggie Bullock and Pat Beverly have gotten off to even worse starts.

In looking at all the terrible players so far, Dallas really stands out. Bullock has a PER of 4.8 and a TS% of .440, Kleber has a PER of 7.0 and a TS% of .506, and DFS has a per of 8.3 and a TS% of .536. Tim Hardaway Jr hasn't been much better, either. Not great when those 4 are half of their projected playoff rotation.
Bullock has been SO BAD. It never ever feels like the ball is going in and it doesnt feel like he's guarding anyone either.
Didn't he start out slow last year too?
 
I thought Brooklyn had it figured out with Simmons at C last game but with Claxton back they’ve got him at PG tonight.
 
This Philly crowd is really disappointing. The reaction to Simmons is no where near what it should be. I guess we still have some closet Simmons fans in the area and people aren't being truthful....
 
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