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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (3 Viewers)

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mr. furley said:
Navin Johnson said:
mr. furley said:
Navin Johnson said:
mr. furley said:
Da Guru said:
I am off until after New Years, been trying to watch some NBA but the games seem so meaningless and boring this time of year it is difficult.

Was excited to watch Morant play, he is exciting but should be called for traveling and carrying at least 10 times a game. On one of his first moves he took 3 steps before dribbling with ref standing right next to him. Even the announcers could not believe it.
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you might like the guy on instagram (i think) who is making video clips of players, like Morant, traveling, palming and carrying, etc. like 20 clips in a row where he stops, rewinds and comments "travel", "carry", over and over.

pretty fun
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Devin Williams I think from InTheLab. On twitter as well.
Most recent one on Jaylen Brown
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lol, yep
he did one on Morant and another on Lamelo Ball that i've seen so far.

the Ball one is egregious - https://twitter.com/devinthelab/status/1600985418538749952?lang=en
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Newest one on LeBron. Called the travel on his own kid had me :ROFLMAO:

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the length of his arm on the book cover, though :lol: :lol: :lol:
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These are great :lol:
 
Great stat I saw on twitter.

In the last 20 years, 13,884 teams were trailing by at least 9 points with 35 or less seconds left.

All 13,884 teams lost those games.

Dallas broke that streak tonight. They were down 9 with 33 seconds left and won the game in OT
 
It seems like guys are putting up ridiculous numbers so far this year and I was wondering if scoring was really higher. My research shows that so far it is, both individual & team per game scoring are at 10 year high's right now. Obviously there is a lot of season left, but it would take a pretty good drop off to see it fall back to "normal" after we are about 40% through this season.

We currently have 7 guys avg > 30 ppg and 17 are at > 25 ppg. In the past 10 years, the most 30+ ppg scorers in a single season was 3 and the most 25+ ppg scorers was 15.

Also at the team level, we are at 113.5 ppg avg league-wide which is 1.4 pts above the best mark over the last 10 seasons. There was a noticeable jump of about 5 ppg in 2018-19 due to some rule changes (freedom of movement rules & short shot clock after offensive rebounds), but this season is moving up 2 ppg above that (so far).
 
Jayrod said:
It seems like guys are putting up ridiculous numbers so far this year and I was wondering if scoring was really higher. My research shows that so far it is, both individual & team per game scoring are at 10 year high's right now. Obviously there is a lot of season left, but it would take a pretty good drop off to see it fall back to "normal" after we are about 40% through this season.

We currently have 7 guys avg > 30 ppg and 17 are at > 25 ppg. In the past 10 years, the most 30+ ppg scorers in a single season was 3 and the most 25+ ppg scorers was 15.

Also at the team level, we are at 113.5 ppg avg league-wide which is 1.4 pts above the best mark over the last 10 seasons. There was a noticeable jump of about 5 ppg in 2018-19 due to some rule changes (freedom of movement rules & short shot clock after offensive rebounds), but this season is moving up 2 ppg above that (so far).
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There are likely other reasons as well, but some reasons I see for scoring going up are:

- More reliance on three-point attempts. Ten years ago, league average was 20 attempts/gm. Now we are at 34.5. On average, the league isn't any better at making them (34.4% now, 35.9% then), but they sure do jack them up. Doing the math, ten years ago, the number of points scored on three-pointers was 43 points per game. Now we are up to 71 points per game. That's likely the biggest difference in inflated scoring numbers.
- More emphasis on protecting three-point shooters' ability to land and hitting defenders with a flagrant foul. IMO, defenders are a lot more reluctant to run out at shooters for fear of giving up free throws for the flagrant on top of three free throws (or a made basket). Can turn into a 5-point play and possession on aggressive defenders.
- Instituting and calling take fouls. I have seen teams get called and they end up giving away a point for nothing, and I also have seen defenders not even bother to try to stop a break anymore. Both of those lead to more points. Won't add up to a lot of extra points, but a couple of calls a game are still gift points.
 
Beef Ravioli Part 2 said:
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Luka with a ho hum 60-21-10 game.
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and the intentional FT miss, rebound and score to send it to OT!
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His reaction was quite juvenile! Incredible player and seems to be in the right spots the majority of the time.
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That's odd - I thought his reaction was a bit overexcited, but he seems yelling at the team that there's still time, get back, don't let them inbound for free, etc. Of course the whole arena was pandemonium, and our seats aren't exactly courtside, but it was incredible.
 
Anarchy99 said:
- Instituting and calling take fouls. I have seen teams get called and they end up giving away a point for nothing, and I also have seen defenders not even bother to try to stop a break anymore. Both of those lead to more points. Won't add up to a lot of extra points, but a couple of calls a game are still gift points.
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I could actually see this as the reason for the change in this season over the last couple as far as average team scoring. Just a couple of extra points allowed/FT's given and voila.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Jayrod said:
It seems like guys are putting up ridiculous numbers so far this year and I was wondering if scoring was really higher. My research shows that so far it is, both individual & team per game scoring are at 10 year high's right now. Obviously there is a lot of season left, but it would take a pretty good drop off to see it fall back to "normal" after we are about 40% through this season.

We currently have 7 guys avg > 30 ppg and 17 are at > 25 ppg. In the past 10 years, the most 30+ ppg scorers in a single season was 3 and the most 25+ ppg scorers was 15.

Also at the team level, we are at 113.5 ppg avg league-wide which is 1.4 pts above the best mark over the last 10 seasons. There was a noticeable jump of about 5 ppg in 2018-19 due to some rule changes (freedom of movement rules & short shot clock after offensive rebounds), but this season is moving up 2 ppg above that (so far).
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There are likely other reasons as well, but some reasons I see for scoring going up are:

- More reliance on three-point attempts. Ten years ago, league average was 20 attempts/gm. Now we are at 34.5. On average, the league isn't any better at making them (34.4% now, 35.9% then), but they sure do jack them up. Doing the math, ten years ago, the number of points scored on three-pointers was 43 points per game. Now we are up to 71 points per game. That's likely the biggest difference in inflated scoring numbers.
- More emphasis on protecting three-point shooters' ability to land and hitting defenders with a flagrant foul. IMO, defenders are a lot more reluctant to run out at shooters for fear of giving up free throws for the flagrant on top of three free throws (or a made basket). Can turn into a 5-point play and possession on aggressive defenders.
- Instituting and calling take fouls. I have seen teams get called and they end up giving away a point for nothing, and I also have seen defenders not even bother to try to stop a break anymore. Both of those lead to more points. Won't add up to a lot of extra points, but a couple of calls a game are still gift points.
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I think 3PA are actually down from last season. Pace is up slightly. Fouls are up about 5% and FTA are up about 8%. Another big one is ORBs are up about 5%.
 
Navin Johnson said:
Anarchy99 said:
Jayrod said:
It seems like guys are putting up ridiculous numbers so far this year and I was wondering if scoring was really higher. My research shows that so far it is, both individual & team per game scoring are at 10 year high's right now. Obviously there is a lot of season left, but it would take a pretty good drop off to see it fall back to "normal" after we are about 40% through this season.

We currently have 7 guys avg > 30 ppg and 17 are at > 25 ppg. In the past 10 years, the most 30+ ppg scorers in a single season was 3 and the most 25+ ppg scorers was 15.

Also at the team level, we are at 113.5 ppg avg league-wide which is 1.4 pts above the best mark over the last 10 seasons. There was a noticeable jump of about 5 ppg in 2018-19 due to some rule changes (freedom of movement rules & short shot clock after offensive rebounds), but this season is moving up 2 ppg above that (so far).
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There are likely other reasons as well, but some reasons I see for scoring going up are:

- More reliance on three-point attempts. Ten years ago, league average was 20 attempts/gm. Now we are at 34.5. On average, the league isn't any better at making them (34.4% now, 35.9% then), but they sure do jack them up. Doing the math, ten years ago, the number of points scored on three-pointers was 43 points per game. Now we are up to 71 points per game. That's likely the biggest difference in inflated scoring numbers.
- More emphasis on protecting three-point shooters' ability to land and hitting defenders with a flagrant foul. IMO, defenders are a lot more reluctant to run out at shooters for fear of giving up free throws for the flagrant on top of three free throws (or a made basket). Can turn into a 5-point play and possession on aggressive defenders.
- Instituting and calling take fouls. I have seen teams get called and they end up giving away a point for nothing, and I also have seen defenders not even bother to try to stop a break anymore. Both of those lead to more points. Won't add up to a lot of extra points, but a couple of calls a game are still gift points.
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I think 3PA are actually down from last season. Pace is up slightly. Fouls are up about 5% and FTA are up about 8%. Another big one is ORBs are up about 5%.
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3PA are down slightly (34.4 now vs.35.2 last year). 3PM is about the same (12.3 vs. 12.4). I don't have the time (or desire) to figure out if the top scoring teams have more volume or a better percentage (and it's the bottom feeders bringing down the league average).
 
Whew! Zion career high 43 and straight up willed us to a win vs the TWolves. It has been amazing to see his game grow this year. He understands the game and the flow. He adjusted tonight to how the game was being officiated. He's better on defense. When Gobert had 5 fouls, he knew to attack him, and he did so relentlessly. He single-handedly put us back in the lead with a 3 (!) and 2 awesome takes to the basket, one off of a fast break steal. Nice defensive play by Dyson Daniels to seal the win, after DD bricking 2 free throws (Z missed a crucial one too, to be fair, but he's 70% on the season so give him a pass).
 
CGRdrJoe said:

killian hayes should be done for the year if not longer after this cheap shot to the back of mo wagner’s head, it always seems to be the pistons
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Reading twitter, it sounded like some kind of hard foul/cheap shot from Wagner. I honestly think he shouldn't have even been ejected as his play had zero malicious intent and was just playing for a loose ball. But then he got shoved in the back and then punched in the back of the head.

Hayes deserves a long suspension.
 
the moops said:
nysfl2 said:
Hayes deserves a suspension, but Wagner's shove was a dirty, dirty play
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Meh. It was more of a lean with a little forearm than a shove. Not a cool play, but far from "dirty, dirty"
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Disagree. It's like the little push in the back when someone is going up for a dunk. You push someone off balance when they're running at that speed in that location on the court, and a serious injury is very possible.
 
nysfl2 said:
the moops said:
nysfl2 said:
Hayes deserves a suspension, but Wagner's shove was a dirty, dirty play
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Meh. It was more of a lean with a little forearm than a shove. Not a cool play, but far from "dirty, dirty"
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Disagree. It's like the little push in the back when someone is going up for a dunk. You push someone off balance when they're running at that speed in that location on the court, and a serious injury is very possible.
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Soft
 
Jayrod said:
CGRdrJoe said:

killian hayes should be done for the year if not longer after this cheap shot to the back of mo wagner’s head, it always seems to be the pistons
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Reading twitter, it sounded like some kind of hard foul/cheap shot from Wagner. I honestly think he shouldn't have even been ejected as his play had zero malicious intent and was just playing for a loose ball. But then he got shoved in the back and then punched in the back of the head.

Hayes deserves a long suspension.
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the PA guy was money with the everybody chill out and stay in your seats, let them handle it on the court remark
 
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I predict 3 games for Killian, 1 for Mo, and 1 for a couple of Magic bench players.
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Man, I see a lot more for Kilian. A blindside punch is a weak move I'd give him 10, and maybe 1 to Wagner. Wagner's play happens every day in youth basketball. Stop being a p***y and get up from it and play. Don't go Kermit Washington on him with a barely any reason punch cause he bumped you.
 
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whoknew said:
I predict 3 games for Killian, 1 for Mo, and 1 for a couple of Magic bench players.
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Man, I see a lot more for Kilian. A blindside punch is a weak move I'd give him 10, and maybe 1 to Wagner. Wagner's play happens every day in youth basketball. Stop being a p***y and get up from it and play. Don't go Kermit Washington on him with a barely any reason punch cause he bumped you.
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Yeah, what Hayes did gets you DQ'd from an MMA contest. I am guessing it will be well over 3 games.
 
did that punch even land? looks like, at best, it was a glancing blow.

it has been escalated to a decapitation and a permanent suspension for chrissakes. just because Wagner went soccer flopper and pretended he was dead doesn't mean it even actually hurt him in the slightest.
 
mr. furley said:
did that punch even land? looks like, at best, it was a glancing blow.

it has been escalated to a decapitation and a permanent suspension for chrissakes. just because Wagner went soccer flopper and pretended he was dead doesn't mean it even actually hurt him in the slightest.
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Yeah that makes sense. Wagner really sold it by flopping face first onto the ground in the midst of 15 guys on the opposing bench so he could get pummeled even more. Sounds like a smart move. :ponder:

Fact that we all know from playing pickup ... white dudes being physically aggressive upsets some of the brothers. See Wagner. See Brad Miller. See Tyler Hansborough. Now Grayson Allen and Bill Laimbeer ... they probably deserved whatever they got. And Steven Adams ... well nobody is willing to fight him cause he's a beast.
 
Brunell4MVP said:
mr. furley said:
did that punch even land? looks like, at best, it was a glancing blow.

it has been escalated to a decapitation and a permanent suspension for chrissakes. just because Wagner went soccer flopper and pretended he was dead doesn't mean it even actually hurt him in the slightest.
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Yeah that makes sense. Wagner really sold it by flopping face first onto the ground in the midst of 15 guys on the opposing bench so he could get pummeled even more. Sounds like a smart move. :ponder:

Fact that we all know from playing pickup ... white dudes being physically aggressive upsets some of the brothers. See Wagner. See Brad Miller. See Tyler Hansborough. Now Grayson Allen and Bill Laimbeer ... they probably deserved whatever they got. And Steven Adams ... well nobody is willing to fight him cause he's a beast.
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no one touched him after he fell. this isn't a prison.

i don't see a need to be racist here, but you go ahead and show yourself.


eta: lofl at "brothers". is it the 70s? do we need the "brothers" dog whistle?
 

whatever happened to Wagner's neural network happened when Diallo gave him a forearm shiver. the punch from Hayes would register as a graze at best. then the Pistons bench immediately recognizes something is wrong and swallows him up so nobody else can touch him.

but, yes, "the brothers" instinct kicked in and they attacked poor Wagner who was innocently cross checking a guy out of bounds in to the bench.
 
mr. furley said:

whatever happened to Wagner's neural network happened when Diallo gave him a forearm shiver. the punch from Hayes would register as a graze at best. then the Pistons bench immediately recognizes something is wrong and swallows him up so nobody else can touch him.

but, yes, "the brothers" instinct kicked in and they attacked poor Wagner who was innocently cross checking a guy out of bounds in to the bench.
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Cross checking? Come on.
 
Navin Johnson said:
mr. furley said:

whatever happened to Wagner's neural network happened when Diallo gave him a forearm shiver. the punch from Hayes would register as a graze at best. then the Pistons bench immediately recognizes something is wrong and swallows him up so nobody else can touch him.

but, yes, "the brothers" instinct kicked in and they attacked poor Wagner who was innocently cross checking a guy out of bounds in to the bench.
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Cross checking? Come on.
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he practically paralyzed the guy. i was surprised to read he wasn't dead. it was a brutal attack.
 
killian should probably be imprisoned for about 20 years befriending the guard and warden by filing thier taxes and tarring a roof drinking ice cold suds while the sob even managed to sound magninous until he can tunnel out and crawl through a river of crap and end up on beach in xioxytleapan in mexico with his buddy red get busy living or get busy dying thats gd right but thats just me talkin take that to the bank brohans
 

the moops said:
whoknew said:
whoknew said:
I predict 3 games for Killian, 1 for Mo, and 1 for a couple of Magic bench players.
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I May be a genius.
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Mo got two. You are half genius
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I don't think Mo is 100% innocent, but his suspension was excessive, IMO.

That kind of play happens in games all year long. The only thing that made this an issue was Killian's overreaction.

If I was Wagner I'd appeal this and show about 100 videos from this season of similar plays.
 
Nice win vs a good team. Back to the top of the West (tied with the Nugs). C.J. franchise record 11 triples (68%). Dude was insane. Harden with a quiet 20 and PJ Tucker solidly in my top-5 players I want to punch in the face. Embiid (37pts) vs Zion (36pts) was entertaining. 2 heavyweights going blow for blow. Zion was not intimidated.

*starts MVP chant* :coffee:
 
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