DJackson10
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NBA not doing anything just shows hypocrisy with the whole Social Justice stuff.
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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (5 Viewers)
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NBA not doing anything just shows hypocrisy with the whole Social Justice stuff.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I mean the bolded is like literally his Twitter bio
Which he claims to have known but he’s also put out a thousand tweets with supposed things that were going to happen that never did
Deamon
Footballguy
Yep probably is lol.
Kinda like saying he is going to be fired, and then saying he might if it's not turned around. Play both sides and then you're always 'right'. Cowardly.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Yeah thats why the one person I know said that; But I also got the Pederson while at work from the same person and Hurts/Wentz stuff from them too. Heard something about Joe Girardi firing but they didn't want to say too much at the time as they weren't sure if the source they had was great they told me. Not really sure who the guy is. I just become friendly with him on twitter one day years ago after talking to him about something and just started giving me things. Still don't know who the guy is but has been reliable. I think he said he works media or something but has a lot of connections to people in the media and orgs etc. So not sure if he does podcast or whatever but said something if he tweeted on his regular page he might lose his job. So he seems to be in a pretty good position where he has to keep his ID hidden.
I know Vin reported the 76ers were close to a KD trade. He wasn't wrong. KD is a part of the Philly Union Ownership and a few of the supporters section camp who are in with ownership pretty deep like they should said KD told them he was close to being traded to the Sixers but they couldn't agree on Draft comp and were trying to get a deal done without Giving up Maxey or Embiid. The 76ers were trying to get a 3rd team involved and there was apparently discusses of Kyrie going to that 3rd team but Kyrie's issues and what teams were willing to give up what was needed. plus lets just say a lot of teams are very unwilling to help the Sixers out still.
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Deamon
Footballguy
Vin Thee Insider
@vinfosh
Pro Sports Insider. First to announce Carson Wentz trade; Bryce Harper signing; James Harden trade; Morey hiring; Castellanos signing
Wow, so he copied and pasted the exact words from Vin Fosh's Twitter (hell, the formatting and punctuation is literally copy/paste) and then claims he's not sure where it came from?
GordonGekko
Footballguy
Whether a player is subjected to the league's overall medical review board is regulated under the revised Chris Bosh Rule.
An instance like Kawhi Leonard claiming the Spurs mismanaged his health and deceived him and then refused to be examined by the Spurs team doctors and specialists is a case that can be forwarded to the review board. Disputes like that, or preventing a very wealthy team ( or very relatively unwealthy owner) from essentially manipulating the cap using an amnesty or insurance money as a proxy for reaching the cap floor, are why the Bosh Rule exists.
The board functions as a fall back because there is a clear incentive for teams to run out a player beyond care and regard for his health in some cases. Also for players to use phantom injuries to push for a trade. The other unspoken danger is someone like Steve Ballmer ( just lots and lots of money) trading for someone like John Wall and take in two first round picks to do it, knowing a future league amnesty is coming, then essentially buying two first round picks for the cost of Wall's contract as a form of cap manipulation. Or an owner in financial hardship, like former owner Gail Miller who was basically forced to sell the Jazz, trading for John Wall, then using his contract to get to the cap floor, but knowing that insurance will actually be paying out a large portion of his "face" contract.
What can the existing review board do about Irving now? Not much. Mental health is a very ambiguous and poorly covered area of the current CBA. No one expected issues like this to arise. No one expected a world wide pandemic. No one expected players to use their shoe deals as a type of salary proxy to take less money to destabilize the league by concentrating talent in only a few teams and a few markets.
What is precedent is that Ron Artest had a large portion of the total penalty by David Stern forgiven long after that scandal, The Malice In The Palace, was out of the sports national daily media cycle.
The Artest precedent helps Irving's cause here. So does Chris Bosh and his situation. And so does Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs.
Flushing out Irving's contract for "cause" ( that would be extremely hard to do ) would cause a reset of the Net's salary cap hold on him. That's going to start an open war with Joe Tsai and Adam Silver with the other 29 owners and front offices. A player contract flushed for cause also gets his current Bird Rights clock rescinded, and the NBPA will have no choice but to fight for Irving, even if they don't like him.
What all the owners don't want is a counter suit by Irving saying going after his contract is retaliation for not making a personal health care decision that became very public and very controversial. The NBA would risk losing up to half of it's fan base that way.
Adam Silver and NBA HQ do NOT want a bright spotlight on Net's owner Joe Tsai. I'm not going to get into that part, but more exposure to him only risks creating more problems for the entire NBA, it's extension into NBA China as a large established brand, and it's push to "globalize" the sport across the world. Part of the agreement that Tsai made to buy the Nets was also to buy the WNBA's New York Liberty. And Silver doesn't want the WNBA in the spotlight either right now, for, again, reasons that are apparent but that I'm not going to discuss in the FFA.
The Nets/Irving situation is incredibly complex.
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mr. furley
Footballguy
my favorite part of
Vin Thee Insider
@vinfosh
Pro Sports Insider. First to announce Carson Wentz trade; Bryce Harper signing; James Harden trade; Morey hiring; Castellanos signing
Wow, so he copied and pasted the exact words from Vin Fosh's Twitter (hell, the formatting and punctuation is literally copy/paste) and then claims he's not sure where it came from?
"Don't know if it is him or not. The person I talk to DM's me with a different name. Someone I know thinks it might be him but I'm really not sure if it is him"
is claiming to get insider info anonymously from someone he doesn't know who apparently DMs him these news leaks for.... reasons?
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya and if he didn't know who the guy is, why would he claim it's the guy who correctly called "(Insert copy/paste from vin fosh's twitter bio here)"my favorite part of
Vin Thee Insider
@vinfosh
Pro Sports Insider. First to announce Carson Wentz trade; Bryce Harper signing; James Harden trade; Morey hiring; Castellanos signing
Wow, so he copied and pasted the exact words from Vin Fosh's Twitter (hell, the formatting and punctuation is literally copy/paste) and then claims he's not sure where it came from?
"Don't know if it is him or not. The person I talk to DM's me with a different name. Someone I know thinks it might be him but I'm really not sure if it is him"
is claiming to get insider info anonymously from someone he doesn't know who apparently DMs him these news leaks for.... reasons?
GordonGekko
Footballguy
Guys who I project will be trade targets by the deadline. Not that their current teams will move them, but that their combination of salary, cost controlled years/remaining years ( if applicable), baseline skill set, current opportunity, and hopeful production will make them desirable by many to most teams.
1) Walker Kessler, C, Utah Jazz
He's got a pathway to minutes in front of him and he's an extremely good rim protector. High BBIQ, good footwork, understands how to use his size and the space around him. What bodes well for a strong rotation bid this season is his timing. Innately understands where to be and why he needs to be there on defense. Not an elite athlete but maxes his existing tools. Can he space the floor on offense? That's the big question. At this point, the answer is "No", but that's part of what will make him available. Because of rookie slotting, as the 22nd overall pick in the last draft, his cost basis for this season is 2.7 million. In fantasy, he can swing "blocks" for you all on his own. He's the Billy Hamilton of NBA fantasy, if Hamilton could have ever gotten on base on a regular basis.
Scouting Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QAIc52Rjjs
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqFvMMvj0uo
2) Herb Jones, Wing, New Orleans Pelicans
May already be a Top 3 wing defender in the entire league at this point. Which is slightly insane considering his youth and experience level. The only thing holding him back is more experience and getting more rapport with the refs to get better calls. Absolutely relentless on the court. Insane level recovery speed. Because he's more of a "Jumbo Wing", with his size, athleticism, wing span and standing reach, he's very switchable and one could argue as more teams use a Small Ball 5, he might start showing some decent rim protection on occasion. Won't give you much on offense, can help you in transition well enough, give him time to work on his three point shot. Passing skill shows his level of pure basketball instinct. Was a 2nd round pick in the 2021 draft, so his cost basis for this season is 1.8 million. In fantasy, can get you steals, some blocks, maybe helps you in assists sometimes. He's not going to give you consistent offense, but his pathway to minutes is extremely projectile. If this kid ever develops a plus three point shot, it's kind of unsettling how much damage he can inflict on other teams. There isn't a team in the entire league who doesn't want this guy on their roster. DPOY usually ends up with pivots, but Jones in a few years is going to start forcing some arguments there at some point.
Defensive Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbUKFyzKWz4
Defensive Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFnV5bjYNP8
3) Monte Morris, PG, Washington Wizards
Zack Crockett will give you three yards. If you need one yard, Crockett will get you three yards. If you need five yards, Crockett will get you three yards. Morris got a shot at starting last year when Jamal Murray got injured and gave a solid but not elite performance. While Beal is ball dominant, what Morris offers is extreme reliability. He'll set your offense ( for Beal, Porzingis and Kuzma), is not looking to be a gunner like an out of control combo guard, has good ball security, and can hit an open three point shot. Easy and clear pathway to a starting slot with good projectible minutes. his value to a team is based on volume and opportunity. Is a young veteran from the 2017 draft, and his cost basis is 9.1 million this season. Not cheap, but in fantasy, he gives you assists from a lower tier ADP, where they become scarce, and maybe some help in steals and three pointers.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIj5qpXTdY
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysJNhyQNKwU
1) Walker Kessler, C, Utah Jazz
He's got a pathway to minutes in front of him and he's an extremely good rim protector. High BBIQ, good footwork, understands how to use his size and the space around him. What bodes well for a strong rotation bid this season is his timing. Innately understands where to be and why he needs to be there on defense. Not an elite athlete but maxes his existing tools. Can he space the floor on offense? That's the big question. At this point, the answer is "No", but that's part of what will make him available. Because of rookie slotting, as the 22nd overall pick in the last draft, his cost basis for this season is 2.7 million. In fantasy, he can swing "blocks" for you all on his own. He's the Billy Hamilton of NBA fantasy, if Hamilton could have ever gotten on base on a regular basis.
Scouting Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QAIc52Rjjs
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqFvMMvj0uo
2) Herb Jones, Wing, New Orleans Pelicans
May already be a Top 3 wing defender in the entire league at this point. Which is slightly insane considering his youth and experience level. The only thing holding him back is more experience and getting more rapport with the refs to get better calls. Absolutely relentless on the court. Insane level recovery speed. Because he's more of a "Jumbo Wing", with his size, athleticism, wing span and standing reach, he's very switchable and one could argue as more teams use a Small Ball 5, he might start showing some decent rim protection on occasion. Won't give you much on offense, can help you in transition well enough, give him time to work on his three point shot. Passing skill shows his level of pure basketball instinct. Was a 2nd round pick in the 2021 draft, so his cost basis for this season is 1.8 million. In fantasy, can get you steals, some blocks, maybe helps you in assists sometimes. He's not going to give you consistent offense, but his pathway to minutes is extremely projectile. If this kid ever develops a plus three point shot, it's kind of unsettling how much damage he can inflict on other teams. There isn't a team in the entire league who doesn't want this guy on their roster. DPOY usually ends up with pivots, but Jones in a few years is going to start forcing some arguments there at some point.
Defensive Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbUKFyzKWz4
Defensive Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFnV5bjYNP8
3) Monte Morris, PG, Washington Wizards
Zack Crockett will give you three yards. If you need one yard, Crockett will get you three yards. If you need five yards, Crockett will get you three yards. Morris got a shot at starting last year when Jamal Murray got injured and gave a solid but not elite performance. While Beal is ball dominant, what Morris offers is extreme reliability. He'll set your offense ( for Beal, Porzingis and Kuzma), is not looking to be a gunner like an out of control combo guard, has good ball security, and can hit an open three point shot. Easy and clear pathway to a starting slot with good projectible minutes. his value to a team is based on volume and opportunity. Is a young veteran from the 2017 draft, and his cost basis is 9.1 million this season. Not cheap, but in fantasy, he gives you assists from a lower tier ADP, where they become scarce, and maybe some help in steals and three pointers.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIj5qpXTdY
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysJNhyQNKwU
GordonGekko
Footballguy
The biggest potential breakout I see this season, in terms of high risk versus high reward, is
Santi Aldama, PF/C, Memphis Grizzlies ( Projectible Stretch 4 / Stretch 5 )
There's a clear path to minutes with Jaren Jackson Jr injured with a stress fracture in his foot. The "hopeful" timeline is JJJ's out 4-6 weeks. But these things can get complicated so you never know. Steven Adams is not giving you offense, but he's giving toughness and leadership. To balance out Adams, Aldama gives you an interesting combination. He can legitimately space the floor. He can defend the rim at about replacement level at this point. He's a decent rim runner and has good instincts for the ball. A fundamental rebounder and a threat to give you inexpensive double/doubles ranging in the 22-25 minutes a game kind of arc. Relatively good shot selection for a raw player and not a liability from the charity stripe, meaning he won't get pulled so easily late in games. The offensive tool set is pretty interesting. Very versatile and it appears he might have some three level scoring chops, albeit relative to a big man with clunky hands. Aldama was the the last pick in the first round of the 2021 draft, so his cost basis for this season is 2.1 million dollars. For fantasy, given his practical ADP, potential for minute early, he offers a tremendous bargain and may have season long value. He's probably being routinely ignored because the Grizzlies, aside from the Warriors, might be the deepest team in the entire league at this point. Konchar, Danny Green, Brandon Clarke, Xavier Tillman, Tyus Jones and Ziaire Williams is an enviable bench to have. Most teams would love to that that 2nd unit ( plus Aldama when JJJ gets healthy again) Even miniature Kennedy Chandler looks promising. This team knows how to draft and knows how to develop the back end guys they do draft or take as UDFAs.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYMJ4yPtFbc
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uc0KxnUgS4
Highlights #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br60ov9mbMo
Santi Aldama, PF/C, Memphis Grizzlies ( Projectible Stretch 4 / Stretch 5 )
There's a clear path to minutes with Jaren Jackson Jr injured with a stress fracture in his foot. The "hopeful" timeline is JJJ's out 4-6 weeks. But these things can get complicated so you never know. Steven Adams is not giving you offense, but he's giving toughness and leadership. To balance out Adams, Aldama gives you an interesting combination. He can legitimately space the floor. He can defend the rim at about replacement level at this point. He's a decent rim runner and has good instincts for the ball. A fundamental rebounder and a threat to give you inexpensive double/doubles ranging in the 22-25 minutes a game kind of arc. Relatively good shot selection for a raw player and not a liability from the charity stripe, meaning he won't get pulled so easily late in games. The offensive tool set is pretty interesting. Very versatile and it appears he might have some three level scoring chops, albeit relative to a big man with clunky hands. Aldama was the the last pick in the first round of the 2021 draft, so his cost basis for this season is 2.1 million dollars. For fantasy, given his practical ADP, potential for minute early, he offers a tremendous bargain and may have season long value. He's probably being routinely ignored because the Grizzlies, aside from the Warriors, might be the deepest team in the entire league at this point. Konchar, Danny Green, Brandon Clarke, Xavier Tillman, Tyus Jones and Ziaire Williams is an enviable bench to have. Most teams would love to that that 2nd unit ( plus Aldama when JJJ gets healthy again) Even miniature Kennedy Chandler looks promising. This team knows how to draft and knows how to develop the back end guys they do draft or take as UDFAs.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYMJ4yPtFbc
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uc0KxnUgS4
Highlights #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br60ov9mbMo
GordonGekko
Footballguy
So let's look at projectible trades this season.
That has impact up and down depth charts. Most of it, to be fair, will be contract dumping. Also it's pretty clear a labor war is coming soon, and many owners will want to be in a situation with options if a hard cap comes to fruition, or to reset their Luxury Tax or even their Repeater Tax clocks.
Aaron Nesmith, SF/SG, Indiana Pacers ( and maybe the Lakers?)
Let's say the Lakers manage to trade Westbrook, and are willing, tragically, to part with those 2027 and 2029 first round picks. Well the common thinking is that the return will be Myles Turner and Buddy Hield. And that the Pacers will just end up buying out Westbrook so he can go ring chase. But the interesting question is Aaron Nesmith. He's a legitimate three point shooting threat and his third year salary will be 3.8 million this season. The Pacers clearly want Mathurin to start at some point soon. And they want to see what Chris Duarte and Isaiah Jackson will give them. That gives them plenty of incentive to move Turner and Hield as fast as possible. But what if Nesmith goes with them? The Lakers need as much long range shooting as they can get. While Lonnie Walker is clearly a better player than Nesmith, which one fits better in LeBron James style of play?
If Nesmith stays on the Pacers, he's a decent chance to at least get some early season burn, some starts and a pathway to some regular minutes.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZD_ml_wN8
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpHB9mE_e8A
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Tari Eason , Jumbo Wing, Houston Rockets ( 3.3 million this season)
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mqh8hD0_7k
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eejAbADnqg
Highlights #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6ydsvYhLs
Garrison Mathews, SG, Houston Rockets ( 2 million this season)
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCEBzmuDEwg
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w16RXHbo2B8
Jae'Sean Tate, PF, Houston Rockets ( 7 million this season)
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtKreE65SLg
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWSsNTmec5E
The potential trade no one is talking about is Eric Gordon of the Rockets. Who is slated to make 19 million this year, with a non guaranteed 19 million next season that's a team option. That makes him relatively simple to trade, as he still has actual player value. Might be a bit overpaid, but he can help someone at the deadline or sooner.
This is where it gets interesting. Tari Eason might be the steal of this past draft. Very high motor but often undisciplined at times. Incredible length and athleticism. Enough plus defense to get minutes and keep them if he starts to have a break out. What stands out the most with Eason is the ability to create his own shot looks projectible. Huge boom/bust kind of player arc. You need a veteran like Goran Dragic to teach someone this raw to ease off the gas and take what the defense gives you. I can see Mathews getting minutes with a Gordon trade. Tate is interesting in that Jabari Smith isn't a stone cold lock and could steal some value there. I wouldn't be surprise to see Tate traded at some point.
But the big boon here is Eason. He clearly has the chops and tool set to be a legitimate starter in the NBA. If Gordon moves, and I believe he will, my take is it's Eason's job to lose. I suspect that the Rockets want Mathews as a super sub. I'd rate them as Eason, Mathews and Tate in that order but the entire situation is very interesting from an opportunity standpoint. Minutes will open up and the Rockets want to know what those young guys will give them.
That has impact up and down depth charts. Most of it, to be fair, will be contract dumping. Also it's pretty clear a labor war is coming soon, and many owners will want to be in a situation with options if a hard cap comes to fruition, or to reset their Luxury Tax or even their Repeater Tax clocks.
Aaron Nesmith, SF/SG, Indiana Pacers ( and maybe the Lakers?)
Let's say the Lakers manage to trade Westbrook, and are willing, tragically, to part with those 2027 and 2029 first round picks. Well the common thinking is that the return will be Myles Turner and Buddy Hield. And that the Pacers will just end up buying out Westbrook so he can go ring chase. But the interesting question is Aaron Nesmith. He's a legitimate three point shooting threat and his third year salary will be 3.8 million this season. The Pacers clearly want Mathurin to start at some point soon. And they want to see what Chris Duarte and Isaiah Jackson will give them. That gives them plenty of incentive to move Turner and Hield as fast as possible. But what if Nesmith goes with them? The Lakers need as much long range shooting as they can get. While Lonnie Walker is clearly a better player than Nesmith, which one fits better in LeBron James style of play?
If Nesmith stays on the Pacers, he's a decent chance to at least get some early season burn, some starts and a pathway to some regular minutes.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZD_ml_wN8
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpHB9mE_e8A
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Tari Eason , Jumbo Wing, Houston Rockets ( 3.3 million this season)
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mqh8hD0_7k
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eejAbADnqg
Highlights #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6ydsvYhLs
Garrison Mathews, SG, Houston Rockets ( 2 million this season)
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCEBzmuDEwg
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w16RXHbo2B8
Jae'Sean Tate, PF, Houston Rockets ( 7 million this season)
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtKreE65SLg
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWSsNTmec5E
The potential trade no one is talking about is Eric Gordon of the Rockets. Who is slated to make 19 million this year, with a non guaranteed 19 million next season that's a team option. That makes him relatively simple to trade, as he still has actual player value. Might be a bit overpaid, but he can help someone at the deadline or sooner.
This is where it gets interesting. Tari Eason might be the steal of this past draft. Very high motor but often undisciplined at times. Incredible length and athleticism. Enough plus defense to get minutes and keep them if he starts to have a break out. What stands out the most with Eason is the ability to create his own shot looks projectible. Huge boom/bust kind of player arc. You need a veteran like Goran Dragic to teach someone this raw to ease off the gas and take what the defense gives you. I can see Mathews getting minutes with a Gordon trade. Tate is interesting in that Jabari Smith isn't a stone cold lock and could steal some value there. I wouldn't be surprise to see Tate traded at some point.
But the big boon here is Eason. He clearly has the chops and tool set to be a legitimate starter in the NBA. If Gordon moves, and I believe he will, my take is it's Eason's job to lose. I suspect that the Rockets want Mathews as a super sub. I'd rate them as Eason, Mathews and Tate in that order but the entire situation is very interesting from an opportunity standpoint. Minutes will open up and the Rockets want to know what those young guys will give them.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Weren't Spurs supposed to tank 
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Everyone has been talking about an Eric Gordon trade for a couple of years
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Definitely not. Found it really odd the Lakers played the Nuggets last night in a jersey that looks a lot like what the Nuggets used to wear ~10 years ago. I like some amount of changing it up, but the Lakers can get off my lawn with their recent choices.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Those were old Minneapolis jerseys, they retired George Mikan's number 99 last night.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yeah. I know the blue is an old thing before they moved just find it weird to see the wearing that color.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
It's very likely that whomever trades for Westbrook, if anyone, will immediately waive him and he'll never actually be on the team. The only reason to trade for him is to get 1 or 2 of the Lakers available 1st round picks.
The real question is will anyone sign him to a minimum after he's waived.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Do we think Kyrie will get suspended? How much money is he costing himself with his crazy at this point?
Jayrod
Footballguy
I don't see how/why he would get suspended by the NBA for what he has tweeted so far unless there is something I don't know about.
Zow
Footballguy
Isn't the report that he isn't to be suspended? Based on that, I don't think he will (to answer your question).
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
This is wild.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2a6jtwt9
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/
If the goal is to only trade one of the first round picks, just the 2027 and not both 27/29, then the Mavericks are sort of a fit.
Westbrook
Beverley
Reaves
2027 FRP (unprotected)
For
Dinwiddie
Hardaway Jr
Bullock
Bertans
Dallas picks up a FRP and dumps a lot of bad money. Lakers get shooting and what amounts to three new starters. This appeases LeBron James and his idiotic vision to only have a roster full of veterans and a franchise self robbed of any draft picks.
Westbrook can still be useful if he's the focal point on a unit built for him to be that focal point. Surround him with Josh Green, Beverley, McGee, Kleber and Finney Smith and let him be the offensive engine for a 2nd unit. Whatever RWB has left, he needs to be completely ball dominant. And that team is used to that, with Doncic in that role 95 percent of the time. I believe Doncic can be convinced that this is the best future course for Dallas. Clearing money to try to sign a better FA to pair with him as RWB expires off the team. ( RWB, Wood and Powell would all be expiring under this deal)
Because of the amount of money dumped, Dallas can't ask for more than one FRP.
mr. furley
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
My sources say that they're not very good.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
Markelle Fultz, PG, Orlando Magic ( 16.5 million this season)
Getting lost in the shuffle of Banchero, Wagner, Suggs, Cole Anthony and even Bol Bol, it's unfortunate Fultz is getting lost in the mix because of his previous yips, failed expectations, prospect fatigue and injury.
What can he give you? He's 25. He still has that tool set that made him a high lottery pick. He can give you 20-25 minutes a night, and probably 12 points / 5 assists on the regular. Chip in a few rebounds and steals. One could argue that he hasn't even hit his peak yet, because of his setbacks, which is unusual for a player at age 25 in this era of the game. Given his ADP and his clear path to rotation minutes and the shortage of assists as you get deeper in fantasy drafts, plus his upside and some Comeback Player Of The Year potential, he's not cheap, but there's some high reward hopes here.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro14j4ECSsY
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4lGTq-M-k4
Redemption Arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK-Wisx3iN4
Patrick Williams, Combo Forward, Chicago Bulls ( 7.8 million this season)
Here's a guy with massive "prospect fatigue" The reality of the situation is the Bull are going to force feed minutes to him. They need to know what they have in him and they need to either see a break out or that he features himself for a potential trade. Where his actual role lies on this roster, is probably more useful in real life versus fantasy, i.e. focusing on being a difference maker on defense. But his 3 And D potential is tantalizing. I'm not a fan of PW and really not a fan of his motor, but he's going to be a "quasi-starter" for a while, and that means minutes and opportunity, at least to start the season. He might just need a change of scenery with a team that will just get in his face non stop, like the Heat, where Spolestra, Riley and Jimmy Butler will give him the business end of their boot first and foremost.
Given his ADP and the reality that most fantasy basketball stats are counting stats for volume and not efficiency, then the biggest factor for PW helping you is ease of projection into minutes. The league is littered with guys with the rare tool set, but not the heart nor passion nor maturity nor killer instinct to get it done. What does bode well is Goran Dragic is on that team, and he might bring some of that Heat culture into PW. Salary wise, the Bulls are top heavy, so the bench is not a great one. The pathway to minutes is here for PW if he can seize his destiny with his own two hands.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiHg8e4Ntok
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcNIap-fHFs
Getting lost in the shuffle of Banchero, Wagner, Suggs, Cole Anthony and even Bol Bol, it's unfortunate Fultz is getting lost in the mix because of his previous yips, failed expectations, prospect fatigue and injury.
What can he give you? He's 25. He still has that tool set that made him a high lottery pick. He can give you 20-25 minutes a night, and probably 12 points / 5 assists on the regular. Chip in a few rebounds and steals. One could argue that he hasn't even hit his peak yet, because of his setbacks, which is unusual for a player at age 25 in this era of the game. Given his ADP and his clear path to rotation minutes and the shortage of assists as you get deeper in fantasy drafts, plus his upside and some Comeback Player Of The Year potential, he's not cheap, but there's some high reward hopes here.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro14j4ECSsY
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4lGTq-M-k4
Redemption Arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK-Wisx3iN4
Patrick Williams, Combo Forward, Chicago Bulls ( 7.8 million this season)
Here's a guy with massive "prospect fatigue" The reality of the situation is the Bull are going to force feed minutes to him. They need to know what they have in him and they need to either see a break out or that he features himself for a potential trade. Where his actual role lies on this roster, is probably more useful in real life versus fantasy, i.e. focusing on being a difference maker on defense. But his 3 And D potential is tantalizing. I'm not a fan of PW and really not a fan of his motor, but he's going to be a "quasi-starter" for a while, and that means minutes and opportunity, at least to start the season. He might just need a change of scenery with a team that will just get in his face non stop, like the Heat, where Spolestra, Riley and Jimmy Butler will give him the business end of their boot first and foremost.
Given his ADP and the reality that most fantasy basketball stats are counting stats for volume and not efficiency, then the biggest factor for PW helping you is ease of projection into minutes. The league is littered with guys with the rare tool set, but not the heart nor passion nor maturity nor killer instinct to get it done. What does bode well is Goran Dragic is on that team, and he might bring some of that Heat culture into PW. Salary wise, the Bulls are top heavy, so the bench is not a great one. The pathway to minutes is here for PW if he can seize his destiny with his own two hands.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiHg8e4Ntok
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcNIap-fHFs
mr. furley
Footballguy
do you have any info on Westbrook?
haven't heard much from him these last two seasons and i'm wondering if he's still an asset to an NBA team?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Sixers lose picks for tampering with.....PJ Tucker and Danuel House
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Get out of here. What if they cut or trade House now that they remembered to actually play Thybulle?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
i'm sure it wouldn't matter and it would definitely be a bad idea.
they were at least cleared in the harden circumvention case, but losing a 23 2nd and 24 2nd for the tampering that everyone does seems kind of absurd.
Major
Footballguy
Should be a hot commodity amongst teams looking to tank
GordonGekko
Footballguy
Huerter is a good call. The Kings paid for him with a future first round pick, so they have an investment in seeing what he can give them. The opportunity is there. He can space the floor and his three point range is plus range, so he creates nice gravity. On a team with more depth, he'd probably get fewer minutes, but the conventional argument is that he was a bad fit next to Trae Young ( that's just too much defense to lose) and was not part of Young's tendency towards a two man game with his big men. Sabonis and Fox are a better complementary fit for Huerter. Is he overpaid this year at 14.5 million? That's a tougher question because more young players are coming into the league from lower levels where it's implicitly understood that they need a league average or above three point shot. When that becomes the new normal, the Anthony Sparrow types are going to start to get phased out. Elite talent is still hard to find, but I'd argue the NBA's overall back of the rotation talent has grown and increased. Younger players are better prepared to walk into the league into a specific role compared to generations prior.
Huerter's shooting highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ556leZw7Q
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Speaking of opportunity, looking at the Net's roster, the guy I'm watching is
Cam Thomas, SG, Brooklyn Nets ( This year's salary is 2.1 million)
I'm pretty sure at some point, Kyrie Irving is going to get suspended. Someone is going to find something somewhere, no matter how hard they have to dig. So the conventional thought is that Claxton will start at center and maybe Day'Ron Sharpe steals some burn. But if the goal is to get the best players on the court, at some point, Ben Simmons is going to have to shift to center. I don't see him as an effective rim protector, but if he keeps refusing to shoot, that team can't play offense rolling 3 on 5. ( Simmons plus a rim protector are two big fat offensive zeroes) And if Irving is removed somehow, that makes it even worse for them. Other than Durant and Irving, on that roster, which is extremely top heavy, Cam Thomas is the only other player who can consistently create his own shot. The drawbacks are that he's undisciplined, is a horrific defender, shades out as a pure ball stopper and he only gives you scoring. He's the polar opposite of Ben Simmons. But he can get to the rim consistently, even while defenses are bracketing him, and that just insanely valuable. Can he translate into a 6th man? The reason that matters is he's a rich man's Alonzo Trier, he needs to be ball dominant. But where else will the Nets get offense if Irving is suspended or has some glitch where he can't play or won't play?
Real life NBA, Thomas drags in a lot of question marks ( Kessler Edwards is probably more valuable in a role) But in fantasy, how often does a bad defender hurt you in a 8 CAT or 9 CAT league other than it creates a reason for his coach to bench him and shades down on his minutes potential?
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15iUexvXIdY
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuZA1yWQ-YA
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
Hadn't realized I finally have the option of buying a standalone service to spend $20/month to be disappointed in the Hornets 
GordonGekko
Footballguy
The other practical fit for Westbrook is the Knicks.
Leon Rose's son is Obi Toppin's agent. That's the only reason on the face of the entire planet that Toppin got drafted by New York. I can't think of any other reason for doing it. To pass over Devin Vassell and Haliburton to take Toppin is downright criminal.
Obi Toppin, PF, New York Knicks ( this years salary is 5.4 million)
The Knicks need to dump Derrick Rose, Julius Randle and Evan Fournier to clear room for their young players to get minutes. Thibs clearly wants Grimes to get big minutes. There's also a fair argument that RJ Barrett would do better without Randle's ball hog ways on the roster. The Lakers also clearly want Cam Reddish. I just don't see the Knicks front office want to play "Will He/Won't He" with Julius Randle for another half decade. Sometimes he cares enough to give a damn, most times he doesn't. I can see the Knicks moving a volume of veterans to the Lakers for RWB and a heavily protected first as a pure salary dump.
If Randle moves, then Toppin is going to get some extreme burn. He's a defensive liability and he can't defend the rim. But he has a non stop motor and he looks to be dangerous in transition. He can feast on tanking teams by seasons end by beating up on third stringers. I cannot and will not and will never understand the Toppin pick. He can't play center, he can't defend the rim, he can't switch, his three point shot isn't reliable, he can't create his own shot. he's not a particularly high BBIQ player. But this is a nepotism case and I don't think Leon Rose can handle the ego hit to accept that Toppin is a very fringe type role player at best.
How can you be a modern NBA big man and not be able to defend the rim nor space the floor nor headline a defense altogether PLUS be an older player in the draft and still get taken 8th overall? How is that possible? We are reaching into Greg Monroe/Jahlil Okafor territory here.
Highlights #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw3KjzFBPBQ
Highlights #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcfsI14zpWg
Also I saw someone call him Ron Threesly on twitter and that’s just a good nickname.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Just as expected, Utah, San Antonio and Portland are in the top 4 in the West.
gruecd
Footballguy
I thought they'd be .500 to start the season while waiting for Khris, Pat, and Ingles to get healthy. I'm guessing soon their lack of shooting (24th in the league at just 33.5% 3P%) is going to catch up with them, especially now with Grayson going down last night with a bruised knee. But I guess you can survive a lack of shooting when you're 1st in scoring defense, 1st in rebounds, and 2nd in blocks.
Jayrod
Footballguy
They are starting 4 tremendous defenders in Giannis, Lopez, Carter & Jrue. The rest of the team is filled with athletic and willing defenders as well.
On offense, Giannis is 2nd in the league in Usage% & #3 in PER, so he is getting it done there even if they aren't hitting 3's. With that ridiculous defense, it won't take much on offense to win games.
gruecd
Footballguy
My buddy and I were talking about this last night. Can you imagine being an opposing guard being defended by Jrue and Jevon? Holy hell.
Zow
Footballguy
Or, unlucky.
GroveDiesel
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