2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (2 Viewers)

[msudaisy26]

What a wild game. What a wild series. I know this is going to be an unpopular take—but I can’t get on board with Duncan Robinson being the reason why the Heat lost last night. Duncan Robinson was one of the ONLY reasons why the Heat even had a remote chance of winning last night. He had the best +/- on the Heat last night, and frankly Bam and Jimmy combining to go 9-37 from the field in a close out game at home can’t be overlooked. Even though the Heat are the inferior team— if we’re calling Jimmy Butler elite—- him going 5-21 last night, and him only scoring 14 points in game 5 is hard to overlook. Beating any team 4 straight times is not easy. If the Celtics manage to do it-—and if Butler doesn’t ball out game 7–I hate to say it— it’ll be hard for him to avoid getting labeled a choker. Jimmy Butler played well for about 4-5 minutes last night. It was enough to make the game interesting and to take them to the edge of winning—but he and Bam played like garbage for the majority of last nights game.

Butler's been carrying the team on his back the entire playoffs. Nobody is going to call him a choker after one bad game.

No one should call out Butler, but he has been bad for a majority of this series.

 

[Desert_Power]

I guess it’ll be swept under the rug with White’s winning shot but what an awful challenge on the previous play. Potentially go from OT to losing the series. Mazzula needs to thank White for saving his job.

Wouldn't they have reviewed the two vs three anyway?

I suppose but it didn’t seem like that was in question until the play was challenged and they looked at the tape.

That play would have been 1000% reviewed to see whether it was a two or three. Mazulla knew that so in fact it was a great challenge with really nothing to lose.

Didn't they put .9 more seconds on too?

 

[Jayrod]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

 

[Jayrod]

I guess it’ll be swept under the rug with White’s winning shot but what an awful challenge on the previous play. Potentially go from OT to losing the series. Mazzula needs to thank White for saving his job.

Wouldn't they have reviewed the two vs three anyway?

I suppose but it didn’t seem like that was in question until the play was challenged and they looked at the tape.

That play would have been 1000% reviewed to see whether it was a two or three. Mazulla knew that so in fact it was a great challenge with really nothing to lose.

Didn't they put .9 more seconds on too?

Yes, but would have reviewed that without the challenge as well.

 

[Coach Morris Buttermaker]

I guess it’ll be swept under the rug with White’s winning shot but what an awful challenge on the previous play. Potentially go from OT to losing the series. Mazzula needs to thank White for saving his job.

Wouldn't they have reviewed the two vs three anyway?

I suppose but it didn’t seem like that was in question until the play was challenged and they looked at the tape.

That play would have been 1000% reviewed to see whether it was a two or three. Mazulla knew that so in fact it was a great challenge with really nothing to lose.

What if the game went OT or there was a foul in the last 3 seconds, it was an incredibly stupid challenge. Nothing to gain (obvious foul) and everything to lose.

 

[the moops]

I guess it’ll be swept under the rug with White’s winning shot but what an awful challenge on the previous play. Potentially go from OT to losing the series. Mazzula needs to thank White for saving his job.

Wouldn't they have reviewed the two vs three anyway?

I suppose but it didn’t seem like that was in question until the play was challenged and they looked at the tape.

That play would have been 1000% reviewed to see whether it was a two or three. Mazulla knew that so in fact it was a great challenge with really nothing to lose.

What if the game went OT or there was a foul in the last 3 seconds, it was an incredibly stupid challenge. Nothing to gain (obvious foul) and everything to lose.

They could/should have called a double dribble on Butler. They could have ruled it a clean block. There was no downside. You don’t save that challenge for a potential instance in overtime when you likely wouldn’t even get to overtime. There is plenty to criticize Mazzulla for. This challenge is not one though.

 

[Anarchy99]

I guess it’ll be swept under the rug with White’s winning shot but what an awful challenge on the previous play. Potentially go from OT to losing the series. Mazzula needs to thank White for saving his job.

Wouldn't they have reviewed the two vs three anyway?

I suppose but it didn’t seem like that was in question until the play was challenged and they looked at the tape.

That play would have been 1000% reviewed to see whether it was a two or three. Mazulla knew that so in fact it was a great challenge with really nothing to lose.

What if the game went OT or there was a foul in the last 3 seconds, it was an incredibly stupid challenge. Nothing to gain (obvious foul) and everything to lose.

They could/should have called a double dribble on Butler. They could have ruled it a clean block. There was no downside. You don’t save that challenge for a potential instance in overtime when you likely wouldn’t even get to overtime. There is plenty to criticize Mazzulla for. This challenge is not one though.

I have seen several places where it was explained that by challenging the call, they reviewed everything. That included bumping the clock from 2.1 to 3.0 seconds. Had they not done that, they would only have checked to see if Butler was fouled for 2 or 3 free throws and left the time at 2.1 seconds. Bottom line, if Boston didn’t challenge, they would have lost.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

What a wild game. What a wild series. I know this is going to be an unpopular take—but I can’t get on board with Duncan Robinson being the reason why the Heat lost last night. Duncan Robinson was one of the ONLY reasons why the Heat even had a remote chance of winning last night. He had the best +/- on the Heat last night, and frankly Bam and Jimmy combining to go 9-37 from the field in a close out game at home can’t be overlooked. Even though the Heat are the inferior team— if we’re calling Jimmy Butler elite—- him going 5-21 last night, and him only scoring 14 points in game 5 is hard to overlook. Beating any team 4 straight times is not easy. If the Celtics manage to do it-—and if Butler doesn’t ball out game 7–I hate to say it— it’ll be hard for him to avoid getting labeled a choker. Jimmy Butler played well for about 4-5 minutes last night. It was enough to make the game interesting and to take them to the edge of winning—but he and Bam played like garbage for the majority of last nights game.

Butler's been carrying the team on his back the entire playoffs. Nobody is going to call him a choker after one bad game.

It’s not one bad game. He was basically non-existent in game 5 as well. Keep in mind that I’m not advocating that he be labeled a choker. I think he’s a really good player—-but I don’t consider him in that “elite” tier. With that said—and I’m not trying to take anything away from the Celtics—but frankly—I don’t think they played all that well last night. I thought they played pretty “meh” at best. This is not about Butler having a bad game—the dude literally did not show up to a game that was easily his for the taking. Had he or Adebayo even played average last night—the Heat easily close that out. Secondly—somebody carrying a team to a loss does not give them a pass. Lebron lost championships with inferior teams (teams where players like Boobie Gibson, Ilgauskas or Delledova were his best teammates)—and people still hold his playoff/finals losses against him. If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

 

[PIK95]

I guess it’ll be swept under the rug with White’s winning shot but what an awful challenge on the previous play. Potentially go from OT to losing the series. Mazzula needs to thank White for saving his job.

NOT challenging when JB tried to jump into Time Lord, MISSED, and Williams STILL got called for the foul was worse imo. That was an easy one.

 

[massraider]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

 

[Deamon]

Is this the best (I know I should probably define "best" before getting blasted for it, so let's go with "most exciting") NBA playoffs ever as a whole?

 

[msudaisy26]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

 

[Gatorman]

including and accepting that the league mvps for the last few years are in our conference.

(with credit to the bucks for actually getting ring)

with credit below to leBetard. These have been the best two teams in the east for the past 4 years (Along with the bucks). What separates them is a missed jimmy 3, a Bam block of Tatum at the rim and now 0.1 second put back. Crazy. From dan

 

[Gatorman]

What a wild game. What a wild series. I know this is going to be an unpopular take—but I can’t get on board with Duncan Robinson being the reason why the Heat lost last night. Duncan Robinson was one of the ONLY reasons why the Heat even had a remote chance of winning last night. He had the best +/- on the Heat last night, and frankly Bam and Jimmy combining to go 9-37 from the field in a close out game at home can’t be overlooked. Even though the Heat are the inferior team— if we’re calling Jimmy Butler elite—- him going 5-21 last night, and him only scoring 14 points in game 5 is hard to overlook. Beating any team 4 straight times is not easy. If the Celtics manage to do it-—and if Butler doesn’t ball out game 7–I hate to say it— it’ll be hard for him to avoid getting labeled a choker. Jimmy Butler played well for about 4-5 minutes last night. It was enough to make the game interesting and to take them to the edge of winning—but he and Bam played like garbage for the majority of last nights game.

Butler's been carrying the team on his back the entire playoffs. Nobody is going to call him a choker after one bad game.

It’s not one bad game. He was basically non-existent in game 5 as well. Keep in mind that I’m not advocating that he be labeled a choker. I think he’s a really good player—-but I don’t consider him in that “elite” tier. With that said—and I’m not trying to take anything away from the Celtics—but frankly—I don’t think they played all that well last night. I thought they played pretty “meh” at best. This is not about Butler having a bad game—the dude literally did not show up to a game that was easily his for the taking. Had he or Adebayo even played average last night—the Heat easily close that out. Secondly—somebody carrying a team to a loss does not give them a pass. Lebron lost championships with inferior teams (teams where players like Boobie Gibson, Ilgauskas or Delledova were his best teammates)—and people still hold his playoff/finals losses against him. If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

If the heat had won last night Caleb Martin would have been named series mvp.

 

[msudaisy26]

Is this the best (I know I should probably define "best" before getting blasted for it, so let's go with "most exciting") NBA playoffs ever as a whole?

I don't think so. The 2004 playoffs were pretty intense with the Pistons vs the Nets and Pacers series were classics the Lakers vs the Spurs and TWolves on the other side were great as well.

I vaguely remember them, but I feel the late 80's and early 90's were wars with Celtics, Pistons, Bulls, Lakers and Blazers.

 

[Gatorman]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

Butler occilates between being a scorer and a distributor. Unlike lebron, when he jumps into distributor mode he kind of forgets to be the alpha in situations. Lebron never forgets he is the alpha.

 

[Deamon]

Is this the best (I know I should probably define "best" before getting blasted for it, so let's go with "most exciting") NBA playoffs ever as a whole?

I don't think so. The 2004 playoffs were pretty intense with the Pistons vs the Nets and Pacers series were classics the Lakers vs the Spurs and TWolves on the other side were great as well.

I vaguely remember them, but I feel the late 80's and early 90's were wars with Celtics, Pistons, Bulls, Lakers and Blazers.

Ya I guess it depends if you're looking at the sheer star power, or upsets/excitement/storylines/unexpected results/buzzer beaters. I don't remember a year like this.

 

[the moops]

If the heat had won last night Caleb Martin would have been named series mvp.

No chance

 

[identikit]

If the heat had won last night Caleb Martin would have been named series mvp.

No chance

Buckets I suppose then?

I would have liked the Martin choice

 

[SWC]

did miami blowing this line up with ministronie of pain posting here take that to the bank brohans

 

[identikit]

did miami blowing this line up with ministronie of pain posting here take that to the bank brohans

It was the most unbearable/schizophrenic of hot takes, bromigo

 

[dickey moe]

ministronie

 

[the moops]

If the heat had won last night Caleb Martin would have been named series mvp.

No chance

Buckets I suppose then?

I would have liked the Martin choice

There is no way in hell the award isn't going to Butler if MIA wins. I suppose if Butler blows out his knee in the 1st quarter tomorrow and Martin goes for 40, then maybe

 

[Desert_Power]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

Butler occilates between being a scorer and a distributor. Unlike lebron, when he jumps into distributor mode he kind of forgets to be the alpha in situations. Lebron never forgets he is the alpha.

Definitely have been playoff runs where Lebron was criticized for being too deferential to his teammates.

 

[Gatorman]

If the heat had won last night Caleb Martin would have been named series mvp.

No chance

Buckets I suppose then?

I would have liked the Martin choice

There is no way in hell the award isn't going to Butler if MIA wins. I suppose if Butler blows out his knee in the 1st quarter tomorrow and Martin goes for 40, then maybe

this came from one of the writers. Not me. Again I don’t care who wins the mvp as long as they are on the heat.

 

[rockaction]

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

4 and 5 and they were two-inning save opporutunities on the road at Fenway. That was the only blip in Mariano's career, and it was because Torre extended him a bit too much. So everybody forgives Mariano.

A-Rod and Sheffield were the goats of the that series, and I don't mean greatest of all-time, either.

Damon, Ortiz, Schilling, and Lowe were the heroes for the Sox. What a series that was! I can remember it like yesterday. What great feeling to be a Sox fan!

 

[identikit]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

 

[jvdesigns2002]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

We comparing mariano riveras body of work to that of Jimmy Butler? Rivera’s resume puts him as an elite closer because of a history of winning rings along with the setbacks being mentioned here. Butler has a history of making good teams better but with zero rings to show for it.

 

[identikit]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

We comparing mariano riveras body of work to that of Jimmy Butler? Rivera’s resume puts him as an elite closer because of a history of winning rings along with the setbacks being mentioned here. Butler has a history of making good teams better but with zero rings to show for it.

Yeah, not my comp

 

[msudaisy26]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

We comparing mariano riveras body of work to that of Jimmy Butler? Rivera’s resume puts him as an elite closer because of a history of winning rings along with the setbacks being mentioned here. Butler has a history of making good teams better but with zero rings to show for it.

Do you have to nitpick everything? Seriously how many 3 - 0 comebacks do we have to compare it too.

 

[Da Guru]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

Very true. Butler is a very good player but as you state inconsistent at times and disappears for long stretches. The announcers kept saying the same thing over and over. "Butler needs to take over, Butler needs to do this, do that" It is just not his game

Butler would be a great sidekick/ Scottie Pippen type. EDIT: Butler now will probably go for 44 points and a triple double tonight and lead Miami to the finals.

Lot of questionable calls the last 2 minutes.

• Jimmy Butler picked up his dribble, but eventually started dribbling again. That should have led to a double-dribble call.
• Horford's foul was initially called on the shot and inside of the 3-point line, but replay showed that Butler was clearly behind it.
• Miami was in the bonus, so if the foul had come before the shot attempt, Butler's placement wouldn't have mattered. The Heat would have gotten two free throws on a non-shooting foul.
• The clock showed 2.1 seconds left after the whistle. After review, the officials put three seconds on the clock. This proved pivotal as White's tip-in came with 0.1 seconds left in game

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

Butler occilates between being a scorer and a distributor. Unlike lebron, when he jumps into distributor mode he kind of forgets to be the alpha in situations. Lebron never forgets he is the alpha.

STOP IT

 

[jvdesigns2002]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

We comparing mariano riveras body of work to that of Jimmy Butler? Rivera’s resume puts him as an elite closer because of a history of winning rings along with the setbacks being mentioned here. Butler has a history of making good teams better but with zero rings to show for it.

Do you have to nitpick everything? Seriously how many 3 - 0 comebacks do we have to compare it too.

Nitpick everything? I made a point that if Jimmy Butler lays an egg in game 7 in what could be the biggest playoff collapse of all time—that to many he will own the label of being a choker—-to which you bring up the Mariano Rivera example. When it comes to evaluating a players legacy— the setbacks of their careers can be overlooked based on the strengths of their accomplishments. Yes—Rivera had some setbacks in his career—-but he also had a lot of accomplishments—and rings are a part of those. If Butler loses tonight and doesn’t play well— improving some teams that never won championships is not going to offset choking away a 3-0 lead in the playoffs. If you think that Butler loses tonight, never wins a ring in his career, and this doens’t tarnish his legacy—we can just agree to disagree.

 

[Capella]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

Butler occilates between being a scorer and a distributor. Unlike lebron, when he jumps into distributor mode he kind of forgets to be the alpha in situations. Lebron never forgets he is the alpha.

Well he’s the first or second best player ever so why would he?

 

[brun]

The reality is, Butler is not a Curry, Durant, LeBron level guy. He is in that next tier.

Butler's biggest problem is inconsistency. He simply has a LOT of no-show games throughout the season and even in the playoffs. It's been that way his whole career and why he never lands 1st team all-NBA and has zero rings.

Very true. Butler is a very good player but as you state inconsistent at times and disappears for long stretches. The announcers kept saying the same thing over and over. "Butler needs to take over, Butler needs to do this, do that" It is just not his game

Butler would be a great sidekick/ Scottie Pippen type. EDIT: Butler now will probably go for 44 points and a triple double tonight and lead Miami to the finals.

Lot of questionable calls the last 2 minutes.

• Jimmy Butler picked up his dribble, but eventually started dribbling again. That should have led to a double-dribble call.

I thought Horford made contact with the ball. So not really a double dribble.

• Horford's foul was initially called on the shot and inside of the 3-point line, but replay showed that Butler was clearly behind it.

Looked like Horford made contact way before the shot, not even close enough for continuation.

• Miami was in the bonus, so if the foul had come before the shot attempt, Butler's placement wouldn't have mattered. The Heat would have gotten two free throws on a non-shooting foul.
• The clock showed 2.1 seconds left after the whistle. After review, the officials put three seconds on the clock. This proved pivotal as White's tip-in came with 0.1 seconds left in game

Horford's contact/foul happens at 3 seconds so when reviewed it makes sense to reset the clock.
See my comments above. Just what I thought I saw.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

Bloop hit

 

[the moops]

I thought Horford made contact with the ball. So not really a double dribble.

Definitely didn't touch the ball

 

[SoBeDad]

I doubt if the NBA uses this to select the refs. But how are the refs selected?

>>The Heat were a combined 0-10 in games reffed by Tony Brothers and Scott Foster during the regular season. The Celtics were 7-2

Brothers and Foster are BOTH in the referee crew for Game 7.<<

https://twitter.com/Balldontlie/status/1663185367988592640?s=20

 

[the moops]

I doubt if the NBA uses this to select the refs. But how are the refs selected?

>>The Heat were a combined 0-10 in games reffed by Tony Brothers and Scott Foster during the regular season. The Celtics were 7-2

Brothers and Foster are BOTH in the referee crew for Game 7.<<

https://twitter.com/Balldontlie/status/1663185367988592640?s=20

Not to pick on you specifically but I hate this ****.

I am too lazy to look it up in more depth, but in games that Scott Foster has reffed, MIA is 69-55. BOS is 67-60. In games Tony Brothers has reffed, MIA is 62-51, BOS is 64-51

 

[SoBeDad]

I doubt if the NBA uses this to select the refs. But how are the refs selected?

>>The Heat were a combined 0-10 in games reffed by Tony Brothers and Scott Foster during the regular season. The Celtics were 7-2

Brothers and Foster are BOTH in the referee crew for Game 7.<<

https://twitter.com/Balldontlie/status/1663185367988592640?s=20

Not to pick on you specifically but I hate this ****.

I am too lazy to look it up in more depth, but in games that Scott Foster has reffed, MIA is 69-55. BOS is 67-60. In games Tony Brothers has reffed, MIA is 62-51, BOS is 64-51

Thanks for putting more context into what I cut and pasted from a Barry Jackson retweet of a YahooSports tweet. Lazy on the part of YahooSports.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I doubt if the NBA uses this to select the refs. But how are the refs selected?

>>The Heat were a combined 0-10 in games reffed by Tony Brothers and Scott Foster during the regular season. The Celtics were 7-2

Brothers and Foster are BOTH in the referee crew for Game 7.<<

https://twitter.com/Balldontlie/status/1663185367988592640?s=20

Not to pick on you specifically but I hate this ****.

I am too lazy to look it up in more depth, but in games that Scott Foster has reffed, MIA is 69-55. BOS is 67-60. In games Tony Brothers has reffed, MIA is 62-51, BOS is 64-51

Yeah, but they are reffing together. So it really is relevant how the two teams have performed when the combo ref crew is involved, vs the two of them in isolation.

It’s also not particularly relevant to look at how the teams performed say, 15-20 years ago when they reffed. More relevant to look at the past few years.

 

[identikit]

If Butler lays another egg in game 7—he will be more remembered for the guy that let a 3-0 lead slip through his hands than he will the dude that carried his team to the Eastern Conference Finals in a few years.

In 2004, the Red Sox beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. No one remembers who didn't deliver for the Yankees that series. I am sure VInny from the Bronx would correct me, but in general.

If the Celtics win, the story will be the Celtics, not the guy on a lower-seeded team who didn't carry his team to victory on the road over a better team.

Mariano Rivera blew two chances to close that series out in game 5 and 6. He is still the greatest closer ever.

Blew Game 7 in 2001 vs the Diamondbacks as well

Bloop hit

WINNER!

 

[identikit]

Bold move for the zombie Heat

 

[the moops]

Yeah, but they are reffing together. So it really is relevant how the two teams have performed when the combo ref crew is involved, vs the two of them in isolation.

So is there some sort of conspiracy amongst those two to screw the Heat? Yet when one of them refs alone they no longer have it out for the Heat?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Yeah, but they are reffing together. So it really is relevant how the two teams have performed when the combo ref crew is involved, vs the two of them in isolation.

So is there some sort of conspiracy amongst those two to screw the Heat? Yet when one of them refs alone they no longer have it out for the Heat?

No idea. I’m just looking at data.

The solo ref data is such a long time series, it really isn’t relevant to me unless it’s focused on the past 3-5 seasons.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Nurse has been hired by Philly according to ESPN

 

[Deamon]

YES! WE GOT NURSE!

 

[Desert_Power]

Nice hire for the Sixers. I wonder if they can get FVV too

 

[mr. furley]

Yeah, but they are reffing together. So it really is relevant how the two teams have performed when the combo ref crew is involved, vs the two of them in isolation.

So is there some sort of conspiracy amongst those two to screw the Heat? Yet when one of them refs alone they no longer have it out for the Heat?

only over the last 2 seasons, apparently.

 

[identikit]

Foregone conclusion for most here, Celts win this thing?