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2022 Las Vegas Raiders (4 Viewers)

I really wanted Chandler Jones but sacrificing Yannick in the process feels like a bit of a push.  Chandler is a better player ATM but he's six years older and 4 mil more expensive.  But getting Rok Ya-Sin helps a ton.  Hoping they can still land a Gilmore or Mathieu, or both.
Jones is an upgrade over Yannick as much as I liked Yannick but yes, he is oldee and more $$$. 

Ya-Sin in Sin City is fun. 

But he us a young, up and coming CB. The only reason Indy is willing to part with him is he is a man to man guy and Bradley, as we know, is heavily zone. Graham is heavy on man to man so that is a good fit. Plus, he is super cheap right now. If we get Gilmore, then our secondary suddenly becomes very solid with Gilmore and Mullen/Ya-Sin then Hobbs with the beginning of depth. 

 
This is the Patriots move, this could be ours:

Christian Kirk can't hold ARobs nutz. It ain't close. And Kirk has made ARob a 20 mill player. But the Bears, being the Bears, made him look bad his contract year. So no one wants to pay it. 

So the move is you sign ARob for 1 year, like 17 Mill, let him get his big deal next year, and take the 3rd round comp pick. 


How about 1 yr 12 MM, w/incentives to $17 MM? If ARob is still ARob, make him prove/earn it before he walks.

 
QUICK! SOMEONE GET ALL THE KNIVES OUT OF CHAD'S HOUSE!!!
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But expected as the contract stood. No way they kept him on that. My thinking was the possibility of a restructure. They could still bring him back too but they could easily move on too.

 
I think there are better ways to allocate precious few roster spots and cap space than Julio.  I think he's broken.
The NE feel would be to sign to a super cheap contract. 

Hammy's are notorious for lingering. A full off season could be the exact medicine he needed.

 
How about 1 yr 12 MM, w/incentives to $17 MM? If ARob is still ARob, make him prove/earn it before he walks.
The way I look at it is that, somehow this Watson deal is holding it up. 

Otherwise, no way the top players like Armstead and Robinson are unsigned. 

I think any number starts at 17 or 18 million. Just a guess

 
The way I look at it is that, somehow this Watson deal is holding it up. 

Otherwise, no way the top players like Armstead and Robinson are unsigned. 

I think any number starts at 17 or 18 million. Just a guess
I think the hold up on WR's is Kirk and the Jags. WR's are pointing to that as the standard and teams are trying to explain that the Jags are insane. 

 
The way I look at it is that, somehow this Watson deal is holding it up. 

Otherwise, no way the top players like Armstead and Robinson are unsigned. 

I think any number starts at 17 or 18 million. Just a guess


Looking at his career stats only, I'd be out on Robinson without significant prove it money. As in perhaps even $12 MM base (plus the huge opportunity cost of developing another true WR1 for this offense) is risking a big overpay...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/allen-robinson-14471/stats-valuation/

Stats certainly don't tell all, but on paper, this dude is living off just one WR1 season out of eight, which occurred NFL eons ago in his 2nd year.

 
You can't look at it as Chandler vs Yannick. It is more like Chandler plus Rock vs Yannick. Chandler is clearly better right now (though age wise how long? I don't know) but add in Rock Ya-Sin and this is a huge upgrade for us. 

 
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Jones is an upgrade over Yannick as much as I liked Yannick but yes, he is oldee and more $$$. 
 
Yannick was also very inconsistent & disappeared at times. I see Jones as an upgrade there. 

Ya-Sin in Sin City is fun. 

But he us a young, up and coming CB. The only reason Indy is willing to part with him is he is a man to man guy and Bradley, as we know, is heavily zone. Graham is heavy on man to man so that is a good fit. Plus, he is super cheap right now. If we get Gilmore, then our secondary suddenly becomes very solid with Gilmore and Mullen/Ya-Sin then Hobbs with the beginning of depth. 
Gilmore would be like the rug in the Big Lebowski. He’d really tie the room together. 

 
^^^ DJ Chark was the value WR1 FA prospect, I think. Missing him and seeing the FA WR spending so far, I'm thinking they will play the Patriots playbook on WRs and try to find one or two in the draft.

 
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Looking at his career stats only, I'd be out on Robinson without significant prove it money. As in perhaps even $12 MM base (plus the huge opportunity cost of developing another true WR1 for this offense) is risking a big overpay...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/allen-robinson-14471/stats-valuation/

Stats certainly don't tell all, but on paper, this dude is living off just one WR1 season out of eight, which occurred NFL eons ago in his 2nd year.
I agree. I like ARob, but he’s not the receiver he once was. He struggles to get separation. 

I know a lot of the reporting was about his QB play, but i rostered him in Dynasty for 4 years and watched a lot of his play. He doesn’t have the burst he once did, nor is he able to make twitchy moves like he did when he was with the Jags.

he’d be perfect on a 1 year incentive-laden contract, but I don’t think he’d accept that. 

 
Looking at his career stats only, I'd be out on Robinson without significant prove it money. As in perhaps even $12 MM base (plus the huge opportunity cost of developing another true WR1 for this offense) is risking a big overpay...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/allen-robinson-14471/stats-valuation/

Stats certainly don't tell all, but on paper, this dude is living off just one WR1 season out of eight, which occurred NFL eons ago in his 2nd year.
I am not in love with Robinson. I wanted Chark. We do need to sign a vet WR and preferably a #1 quality guy... that now means Robinson or Beckham. I think the WR's and teams are in a staring contest after the Kirk deal.

 
Looking at his career stats only, I'd be out on


Robinson


without significant prove it money. As in perhaps even $12 MM base (plus the huge opportunity cost of developing another true WR1 for this offense) is risking a big overpay...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/allen-robinson-14471/stats-valuation/

Stats certainly don't tell all, but on paper, this dude is living off just one WR1 season out of eight, which occurred NFL eons ago in his 2nd year.
Going back to sophomore year in college

- 2012: Matt McGloin
- 2013: Christian Hackenburg
- 2014-16: Blake Bortles
- 2017: Torn ACL
-2018-19: Mitchell Trubisky
- 2020: Nick Foles 
-2021: Andy Dalton/Justin Fields

That is a GD tragedy. 

 
Still - he’d be a cheap field stretcher. When healthy, he’d be a nice piece for the Raiders & would help to replace Ruggs as a deep threat.

Raiders would still need an alpha, but  Fuller would definitely fill a need.
It would be a great 7 games, no doubt.

I don't really think ARob is possible for us, because if we were his choice, he would'v signed already.

Somehow, his fate is tied to Watson.

 
Yannick was also very inconsistent & disappeared at times. I see Jones as an upgrade there. 

Gilmore would be like the rug in the Big Lebowski. He’d really tie the room together. 
Gilmore is my #1 target right now. Robinson after that. Ionaddis re-sign Jefferson and Thomas too next. A lineman after that and then Myles Jack. A lineman would be second for me but I don't know who that lineman is right now. 

 
I am not in love with Robinson. I wanted Chark. We do need to sign a vet WR and preferably a #1 quality guy... that now means Robinson or Beckham. I think the WR's and teams are in a staring contest after the Kirk deal.


Raiders have Waller/Moreau, Renfrow, Jacobs/Drake as their core target group.

But on the outside, as of today they have Bryan Edwards and a bunch of guys you have never heard of. Actually for many NFL fans, Edwards would qualify as that too. Some work to do at outside WR, just don't think the FA WR market this year is ideal at all.

Time to look again at the draft group, where a plethora of speedsters are at play. A rookie outside WR could fit in quite nicely with the existing core of pass catchers on this team.

 
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Here are PFF's WR rankings on their current pre-draft big board. Maybe the Raiders could get two of the bolded names with a 1st rd trade down scenario? Use the remaining picks on OL/DEF.

11. Drake London

12. Garrett Wilson

16. Jameson Williams

21. Chris Olave

31. Treylon Burks

33. Skyy Moore

46. Jahan Dotson

57. George Pickens

61. Jalen Tolbert

66. Justyn Ross

74. Christian Watson

Add two of the above five bolded to the Raiders existing pass catchers and suddenly you have something nice brewing. Plus additional college playmakers and/or speedsters to be had later if the Raiders only land one of the above (4.3 Calvin Austin, 4.6 David Bell, 4.2 Tyquan Thornton).

 
Gilmore is my #1 target right now. Robinson after that. Ionaddis re-sign Jefferson and Thomas too next. A lineman after that and then Myles Jack. A lineman would be second for me but I don't know who that lineman is right now. 
Gotta get a RT. Otherwise yes. I’m not high on Robinson though. 

 
Here are PFF's WR rankings on their current pre-draft big board. Maybe the Raiders could get two of the bolded names with a 1st rd trade down scenario? Use the remaining picks on OL/DEF.

11. Drake London

12. Garrett Wilson

16. Jameson Williams

21. Chris Olave

31. Treylon Burks

33. Skyy Moore

46. Jahan Dotson

57. George Pickens

61. Jalen Tolbert

66. Justyn Ross

74. Christian Watson

Add two of the above five bolded to the Raiders existing pass catchers and suddenly you have something nice brewing. Plus additional college playmakers and/or speedsters to be had later if the Raiders only land one of the above (4.3 Calvin Austin, 4.6 David Bell, 4.2 Tyquan Thornton).
I’d rather not draft 2 wrs.  1 sure, but there are so many other needs. 

 
I’d rather not draft 2 wrs.  1 sure, but there are so many other needs. 


That's why I like the trade down and take Burks scenario. Accumulate later picks to hoard OL/DEF in 2nd-4th rds. Sneak in a Christian Watson (or another top-flight WR prospect) if he becomes value in the 3rd or something, to go along with a number of other selections courtesy of the 1st rd trade.

 
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BTW, as of right now, OTC and Spotrac are both showing Yan with a dead cap $8MM charge to the Raiders' books this season. If that's true, then it means the Raiders agreed to pay Yan's 2022 roster bonus which is due on 3/18 as part of the deal. Again, *if* proven true, this would indicate to me that McD & Co. really wanted to make this trade on the personnel side. Especially considering this detail would not just cut the Raiders' cap by $8 MM, but also would give a conference rival that $8 MM as a boost to their remaining offseason cap.

 
Josh Jacobs tweeted..  

Ima just going to go ahead and apologize to #RaiderNation you’ll see why soon

A follow up said something about back to his roots. 

??? 

 
Josh Jacobs tweeted..  

Ima just going to go ahead and apologize to #RaiderNation you’ll see why soon

A follow up said something about back to his roots. 

??? 
I think it is him switching jersey numbers to 8 after digging further

 
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McD & Co. certainly aren't slow playing the 5th tier of FA this year. They must be starting from the bottom of their target board - sneak attack on the no-names while the rest of the league is distracted by the names.

Chandler Jones + Rock Ya Sin will have to satisfy the thirst for now.

 
FB Jacob Johnson added


Jakob entered the NFL via the International Player Pathway Program and was signed by New England Patriots as an undrafted free agent on 8 April 2019.[5] He was released during final roster cuts on 31 August 2019.[6] After remaining unclaimed in waivers, he was automatically assigned to the Patriots' practice squad for the 2019 season.[7] As the Patriots chose not to register him as an international player, Jakob counted against the 10-man practice squad limit, and was therefore eligible to be signed to the active roster during the 2019 season.[8] He was promoted from the practice squad on 21 September 2019 following an injury to James Develin and became the first International Pathway player to be activated [9] and play in an NFL game.[10] He was placed on season-ending injured reserve on 14 October 2019 with a shoulder injury. In the 2019 season, he recorded one reception for five yards, and took 94 total snaps — 71 on offense and 23 on special teams — in 4 games played.[11]

To start the 2020 NFL season, his second, Johnson made the Patriots 53-man roster out of camp, becoming the second International Pathway player to do so after Efe Obada.[12] In Week 2 of the 2020 season against the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday Night Football, Johnson scored his first NFL touchdown on a one-yard touchdown reception from Cam Newton,[13] becoming the first player from the International Player Pathway to score a touchdown.[14] He also became the first offensive player from Germany and second overall German player to score a touchdown.[15]

On 25 March 2021, the Patriots re-signed Johnson to a one-year contract.[16]


Bolden and Johnson swooped from the Pats RB room. Me likey.

 
FB Jacob Johnson added
Raiders signed FB Jakob Johnson, formerly of the Patriots, to a one-year contract.

After the Patriots chose not to tender Johnson, a restricted free agent, Vegas became the most logical landing spot for him. Raiders head coach Josh McDaniels gave Johnson plenty of run while the two were together in New England. Johnson logged 310 snaps in 2021, making him one of the most involved fullbacks in the league. He was primarily used as a blocker, paving the way for Damien Harris and Rhamondre Stevenson. Johnson will play the same role in Vegas, this time opening lanes for Josh Jacobs and Kenyan Drake. 

 
That ensures Richard will not be back


I like Bolden better in that he's 20 lbs heavier. Enough with using JJ as the pounder. Let Bolden help with that role and wear some of these defenses down. Bolden can also catch - maybe not at Richard's level - but well enough to keep that threat in hand when he's on the field. Drake and Richard were redundant - needed more thump in the top-three RBs after Jacobs.

 
Speaking of more thump:

Jakob Johnson: 6'3'' 255

Alec Ingold: 6'1'' 240


I was a big fan of Ingold, but Johnson is notably bigger (and probably cheaper). He also played (backup) TE in college at Tennessee and had 43 catches in one season in the German pro league before being signed by the Pats.

 
Raiders are quietly adding a good amount of value pieces at the back end of the depth chart and bottom of the cap list. This all bodes well for positioning to take loads of BPAs in the draft (after WR).

 

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