2023-2024 NBA Salary Cap Draft - SECOND Annual Battle for the Wikkid Cup - Preseason Rankings are In! (2 Viewers)

[Jayrod]

Yeah, I’ll have the spreadsheet out soon.

Is everyone ok with starting the draft tomorrow so people can prep?

Everyone hasn't already built a spreadsheet with these headers for their top 300 NBA players?

Player

Team

POS1

POS Rank

POS2

Ftsy Rank

22-23 FRk

Ftsy Avg

ESPN Rank

CBS Rank

B/R Rank

Exprt Avg

WS/48

PER

BPM

VORP

Adv Metrc

AdvM Rank

Salary

Cap Hit

Calc Rank

My Rank

Value

Variance

Value Score

Rank Var

If not, what are you even doing with your life?

 

[Jayrod]

j/k



I've only included 125 players. 300 would just be stupid.

 

[rockaction]

Are you guys judging and discussing like a timdraft or are you playing an actual fantasy season with the guys you pick?

 

[Yo Mama]

Are you guys judging and discussing like a timdraft or are you playing an actual fantasy season with the guys you pick?

We do a ranking after the draft, then I put everything into a fantasy site to track stats, then we do another ranking after the season.

 

[rockaction]

We do a ranking after the draft, then I put everything into a fantasy site to track stats, then we do another ranking after the season.

Ah. Very cool. So there's a subjectivity to it and it's not like you're playing an actual fantasy season. You guys rank the teams. Does that sound about right? If that's right, then enjoy yourselves. Very cool.

 

[Yo Mama]

DRAFT SHEET

Guidelines for inputting picks into the workbook:
- DO NOT SORT THE DRAFT LIST TAB!!!
- Copy the player, team, and salary info for the player you are taking from the Master Salary List into the Draft List
- Put your user name next to the player you are taking on the Master Salary List tab
- The Team List tab updates automatically
- Last years teams and draft order are included in the last tab
- The Team List tab calculates the maximum salary for one player you can draft (assuming you need $1.8M for each remaining roster spot)
- DO NOT SORT THE DRAFT LIST TAB!!!

Announce your picks here in this thread but try to keep the draft workbook updated as we go.

I’m lame, so let me know if you can’t get into the workbook.

 

[Yo Mama]

We’ll officially start drafting tomorrow, but people can always start making picks whenever.

Just an FYI - Son of Yo Mama is in classes all day so we won’t get too far until this afternoon if people are antsy to get going right away.

 

[Yo Mama]

Any last questions on the rules or the process?

 

[Instinctive]

I'm open to moving my pick for anyone interested.

 

[caustic]

We’ll officially start drafting tomorrow, but people can always start making picks whenever.

Just an FYI - Son of Yo Mama is in classes all day so we won’t get too far until this afternoon if people are antsy to get going right away.

My pick is a no-brainer so I'll just get the ball rolling now.

1.01 is of course Nikola Jokic, who's an outright bargain at $47,607,350. Jokic is a positive contributor in every single statistical category, a one-man offense, an NBA Finals winner, and a horse racing champion. Now I can begin scouting for pick 40.

Son of @PIK95 has the next selection!

 

[Eephus]

@Yo Mama

Is there a reason why you saved the draft sheet in XLSX format vs. converting to native Google Sheets?

 

[Frostillicus]

Just an FYI - Son of Yo Mama is in classes all day s

Sure he is, pops.

 

[Yo Mama]

@Yo Mama

Is there a reason why you saved the draft sheet in XLSX format vs. converting to native Google Sheets?

No, is it better if I switch to sheets? I copied it over from an excel file so I kept it that way.

 

[Kev4029]

We’ll officially start drafting tomorrow, but people can always start making picks whenever.

Just an FYI - Son of Yo Mama is in classes all day so we won’t get too far until this afternoon if people are antsy to get going right away.

My pick is a no-brainer so I'll just get the ball rolling now.

1.01 is of course Nikola Jokic, who's an outright bargain at $47,607,350. Jokic is a positive contributor in every single statistical category, a one-man offense, an NBA Finals winner, and a horse racing champion. Now I can begin scouting for pick 40.

Son of @PIK95 has the next selection!

Jokic is still the most interesting person to build around in this draft because he'll need a certain kind of starting PF and PG to build with and those players might be hard to find, but it leaves tons of options for all of the tertiary players on the roster.

 

[the moops]

Already annoyed at the two youngsters

 

[PIK95]

Already annoyed at the two youngsters

I just got on for the for the time today. Thought it was starting tomorrow myself. I'll let Luke know he's up. He was hoping Joker would fall.

 

[Kev4029]

Already annoyed at the two youngsters

I just got on for the for the time today. Thought it was starting tomorrow myself. I'll let Luke know he's up. He was hoping Joker would fall.

No hurry - this is a soft start, we aren't really going until tomorrow.

 

[Eephus]

No, is it better if I switch to sheets? I copied it over from an excel file so I kept it that way.

I'm no expert but I think native Sheets is more efficient for what we're doing. The file size shrinks by half when converted.

 

[PIK95]

1.2 Luke takes Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

 

[caustic]

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

 

[Jayrod]

It's a bold strategy, Cotton! Let's see how it plays out.

 

[Yo Mama]

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

Keep in mind, when we do our rankings, most don’t care as much about the fantasy aspect of things. Most rank based on overall team building and how they think each team would fare when matched up against other teams. The fantasy league is mainly to keep track of stats during the season. I exclude TOs from that setup since it penalizes deeper teams with more players that get playing time. Basically, everyone will rank using whatever criteria they want.

 

[Jayrod]

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

Keep in mind, when we do our rankings, most don’t care as much about the fantasy aspect of things. Most rank based on overall team building and how they think each team would fare when matched up against other teams. The fantasy league is mainly to keep track of stats during the season. I exclude TOs from that setup since it penalizes deeper teams with more players that get playing time. Basically, everyone will rank using whatever criteria they want.

This,

Last year, I was originally thinking only fantasy in the first round. Trying to build a viable team around my first pick was tough and I spent the rest of the draft making up for it.

ETA: I had Haliburton ranked #8 on my cheatsheet. Getting an All-star player at the price of a bench guy is not a bad move in the first round...still I'd rather have an MVP-level guy to start with if available.

 

[PIK95]

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

Keep in mind, when we do our rankings, most don’t care as much about the fantasy aspect of things. Most rank based on overall team building and how they think each team would fare when matched up against other teams. The fantasy league is mainly to keep track of stats during the season. I exclude TOs from that setup since it penalizes deeper teams with more players that get playing time. Basically, everyone will rank using whatever criteria they want.

We are thinking in only fantasy terms fwiw.

 

[Yo Mama]

No, is it better if I switch to sheets? I copied it over from an excel file so I kept it that way.

I'm no expert but I think native Sheets is more efficient for what we're doing. The file size shrinks by half when converted.

Ok I can change it to sheets if it won’t mess things up or make things confusing.

 

[Yo Mama]

Ok, I’m sure this will lead to lots of confusion, but I saved the file as a Sheets file rather than excel but it’s a new file.

Do we stick with the excel version or switch to Sheets?

 

[Jayrod]

Ok, I’m sure this will lead to lots of confusion, but I saved the file as a Sheets file rather than excel but it’s a new file.

Do we stick with the excel version or switch to Sheets?

Update your link in the second post and add a link in here, but definitely switch to Sheets.

 

[the moops]

More picks, less nerdy excel/sheets talk

 

[Yo Mama]

Ok. Here’s the new link.

GOOGLE SHEETS FILE

We’re using this going forward. Please stop using the excel version.

 

[Yo Mama]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

1.03 - Giannis Antetokounmpo - PF/MVP, Mil
$45,640,084 ($2M cheaper than Jokic haha)

@Eephus is up

 

[Kev4029]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

1.03 - Giannis Antetokounmpo - PF/MVP, Mil
$45,640,084 ($2M cheaper than Jokic haha)

@Eephus is up

Do better with him than I did last year.

 

[Eephus]

1.04 - Anthony Edwards - SG - Timberwolves

$13,534,817

Final year at the price of a MLE. I think he still has another leap in him.

@Kev4029

 

[Frostillicus]

Eephus no

 

[caustic]

Eephus no

Gobert should still be available at 11, you'll be alright.

 

[scoobus]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

Oof, poor kid.

 

[Kev4029]

1.05 Luka Doncic - G/F - Mavs

$40,064,220.00

I was a little torn with what to do here and strongly considered going two other directions, but Doncic is just soooo good offensively and I'm confident I can build a significantly better team around him than the Mavs have. He's kind of trash defensively, but at least he's big and strong which provides a little bit of flexibility with the rest of the roster. He's probably going to slot in as the nominal small forward but obviously he'll be the lead creator and ball handler.

Just incase people forgot how ****ing good Doncic is because of their terrible team building in Dallas, he averaged 32.4/8.6/8.0 last season with a .609 TS% and a usage rate of 37.6. If I can find some defense and shooting around him, he'll be a better player than that in my ecosystem.

@Desert_Power

 

[PIK95]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

Oof, poor kid.

I did both Gen Chems, then both Organics. Than I switched to business. That was an oof for sure.

 

[scoobus]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

Oof, poor kid.

I did both Gen Chems, then both Organics. Than I switched to business. That was an oof for sure.

It gets a little better after that, not sure anything is worse than O-Chem.

 

[Desert_Power]

I didn’t realize we were starting today. Will need time to get home and evaluate.

 

[Desert_Power]

Sorry

 

[Yo Mama]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

Oof, poor kid.

I did both Gen Chems, then both Organics. Than I switched to business. That was an oof for sure.

It gets a little better after that, not sure anything is worse than O-Chem.

Yeah, he’s a Biochem major and is going to have a couple rough semesters coming up.

 

[Yo Mama]

I didn’t realize we were starting today. Will need time to get home and evaluate.

No worries. Everyone was antsy to start, but take whatever time you need.

 

[PIK95]

I didn’t realize we were starting today. Will need time to get home and evaluate.

If you want to trade back to the 14 spot to give you more time I would be willing. Assuming @Yo Mama allows it. We don't OFFICIALLY start until tomorrow so maybe.

 

[Instinctive]

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

Keep in mind, when we do our rankings, most don’t care as much about the fantasy aspect of things. Most rank based on overall team building and how they think each team would fare when matched up against other teams. The fantasy league is mainly to keep track of stats during the season. I exclude TOs from that setup since it penalizes deeper teams with more players that get playing time. Basically, everyone will rank using whatever criteria they want.

We are thinking in only fantasy terms fwiw.

I would immediately change that. Most folks totally ignore it in all the rankings pre-season and post to determine winners. Build the best actual basketball team you can is my advice.

 

[Yo Mama]

I didn’t realize we were starting today. Will need time to get home and evaluate.

If you want to trade back to the 14 spot to give you more time I would be willing. Assuming @Yo Mama allows it. We don't OFFICIALLY start until tomorrow so maybe.

Yes, draft slots can be swapped before your first pick is made. No trading of individual daft picks though.

 

[Jayrod]

I didn’t realize we were starting today. Will need time to get home and evaluate.

If you want to trade back to the 14 spot to give you more time I would be willing. Assuming @Yo Mama allows it. We don't OFFICIALLY start until tomorrow so maybe.

Yo Mama said you are good to change draft positions up until you make a pick. But you flip for the entire draft.

 

[PIK95]

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

Keep in mind, when we do our rankings, most don’t care as much about the fantasy aspect of things. Most rank based on overall team building and how they think each team would fare when matched up against other teams. The fantasy league is mainly to keep track of stats during the season. I exclude TOs from that setup since it penalizes deeper teams with more players that get playing time. Basically, everyone will rank using whatever criteria they want.

We are thinking in only fantasy terms fwiw.

I would immediately change that. Most folks totally ignore it in all the rankings pre-season and post to determine winners. Build the best actual basketball team you can is my advice.

1.2 Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

Just spoke to Luke on the phone, he said whoever didn't take Haliburton first made a miatake, lol. I probably wasn't supposed to say that. He may get on here tonight finally.

Love the pick! He'd have been my choice at 1 if our fantasy league was 9-cat rather than 8-cat. Because turnovers don't count against us in 8-cat, I thought that diminished the value of Haliburton and his exceptionally low TO rate. Still the best contract by far, though.

Keep in mind, when we do our rankings, most don’t care as much about the fantasy aspect of things. Most rank based on overall team building and how they think each team would fare when matched up against other teams. The fantasy league is mainly to keep track of stats during the season. I exclude TOs from that setup since it penalizes deeper teams with more players that get playing time. Basically, everyone will rank using whatever criteria they want.

We are thinking in only fantasy terms fwiw.

I would immediately change that. Most folks totally ignore it in all the rankings pre-season and post to determine winners. Build the best actual basketball team you can is my advice.

I'm just in it for the fun. I do fantasy, so I'm building the best fantasy team I can. Not worried about the stat geeks or whatevs. I suspect it will be a fine team either way.

 

[Chemical X]

Son of Yo Mama, from his Organic Chemistry class, selects:

Oof, poor kid.

I did both Gen Chems, then both Organics. Than I switched to business. That was an oof for sure.

It gets a little better after that, not sure anything is worse than O-Chem.

heeey

 

[Corporation]

1.2 Luke takes Tyrese Halliburton Indiana Guard
$5.81 MILLION DOLLARS

This is who I was going to take. Who let this kid in?

Please PM when I am up. I hit a really unexpected busy time at work, which I have to finish because I'm driving to the beach tomorrow evening. My spreadsheet isn't as nice as Jayrod's but I do have one

 

[Desert_Power]

I think I have to go Wemby here. Sorry for the delay, was out with some friends.

1.06 Victor Wembanyama

@the moops