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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (1 Viewer)

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Moe. said:
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It's just summer league but Jabari Smith is looking like the second coming of T-Mac. Hope some of this dominance carries over to the regular season.
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I am still very high on him. Last year was just tough all around down there and I'm not sure you can judge him too harshly for any of it. They just need to be too good for a top 4 pick but not good enough to make the playoffs.
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Yeah, I was hard on him as a rookie primarily because I was set on Banchero and had that rug pulled from under me. Seems like he's playing with a chip on his shoulder with a lot to prove.

As for the Rockets, I'm pretty sure that pick will convey, it just won't be as high as many are expecting (not that you need more picks). Looking forward to another budding rivalry between OKC and HOU when they're both legit contenders in the West 🤞
 
General Malaise said:
Portland matured, brought in guys like Brian Grant
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I was so pissed when the Kings let him go in free agency. One of the few things that I think Geoff Petrie screwed up. But he wasn't Petrie's guy, he was drafted by the previous GM (who honestly had no business in that role - @thecatch .. Mr. Jerry Reynolds).

But when I see his name, I think of a solid character guy, and a crucial part of the Kings playoff team in 1996, anchored by Grant and Mitch Richmond. Of course they were the #8 seed, and lost 3-1 to Seattle, with Payton and Kemp. That Seattle team went to the finals and ran into the Bulls and Jordan.

Anyway, solid PF, and all around good dude. Good memories.
 
FatMax said:
General Malaise said:
Portland matured, brought in guys like Brian Grant
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I was so pissed when the Kings let him go in free agency. One of the few things that I think Geoff Petrie screwed up. But he wasn't Petrie's guy, he was drafted by the previous GM (who honestly had no business in that role - @thecatch .. Mr. Jerry Reynolds).

But when I see his name, I think of a solid character guy, and a crucial part of the Kings playoff team in 1996, anchored by Grant and Mitch Richmond. Of course they were the #8 seed, and lost 3-1 to Seattle, with Payton and Kemp. That Seattle team went to the finals and ran into the Bulls and Jordan.

Anyway, solid PF, and all around good dude. Good memories.
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Huge presence in the community here too. He is beloved here.
 
General Malaise said:
FatMax said:
General Malaise said:
Portland matured, brought in guys like Brian Grant
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I was so pissed when the Kings let him go in free agency. One of the few things that I think Geoff Petrie screwed up. But he wasn't Petrie's guy, he was drafted by the previous GM (who honestly had no business in that role - @thecatch .. Mr. Jerry Reynolds).

But when I see his name, I think of a solid character guy, and a crucial part of the Kings playoff team in 1996, anchored by Grant and Mitch Richmond. Of course they were the #8 seed, and lost 3-1 to Seattle, with Payton and Kemp. That Seattle team went to the finals and ran into the Bulls and Jordan.

Anyway, solid PF, and all around good dude. Good memories.
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Huge presence in the community here too. He is beloved here.
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Great player for the heat as well.
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Sixers matched B-Ball Paul's contract. Not sure what this rotation is supposed to look like. Maybe this rumored big trade will shake everything up.
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i was ready to write off the Sixers completely if they let B-Ball go. Glad they didn't. My guess is he plays the 4 in some spots. I think Nurse will actually let him play, unlike knucklehead Doc
 
Heard a really neat trivia answer yesterday. Please don't look it up and cheat.

Only one team in the NBA hasn't had a losing record over the last decade, can you guess who it is?
 
farfromforgotten said:
msudaisy26 said:
Heard a really neat trivia answer yesterday. Please don't look it up and cheat.

Only one team in the NBA hasn't had a losing record over the last decade, can you guess who it is?
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I was going to go with Miami but that doesn’t seem surprising enough so I’ll say Toronto?
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I think the only other team that it could be is the Clippers - they were kind of bad back like 5 years ago, but that was like end of the lottery bad (when they drafted SGA).
 
msudaisy26 said:
Heard a really neat trivia answer yesterday. Please don't look it up and cheat.

Only one team in the NBA hasn't had a losing record over the last decade, can you guess who it is?
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Golden State seems too obvious, so it's probably a wrong answer.

EDIT: Oof, yeah wrong answer.
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
msudaisy26 said:
Heard a really neat trivia answer yesterday. Please don't look it up and cheat.

Only one team in the NBA hasn't had a losing record over the last decade, can you guess who it is?
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Feels like would be Clippers as they lack any high lotto picks for awhile.
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seems like it makes sense, since this time period would include the Paul-Griffin teams, which they pivoted from to a few years with some funky mish-mash rosters that were actually competitive, then moved into 3-4 years of Kawhi/PG, etc.
 
Kev4029 said:
farfromforgotten said:
msudaisy26 said:
Heard a really neat trivia answer yesterday. Please don't look it up and cheat.

Only one team in the NBA hasn't had a losing record over the last decade, can you guess who it is?
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I was going to go with Miami but that doesn’t seem surprising enough so I’ll say Toronto?
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I think the only other team that it could be is the Clippers - they were kind of bad back like 5 years ago, but that was like end of the lottery bad (when they drafted SGA).
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Winner winner. I couldn't believe it.
 
Moe. said:
How did they finish 42-40?
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Not that hard to decipher. They went 21-4 against SAC, PHO, DAL, MEM, NYK, BRK, CHI, ORL, and ATL . . . none of which had 30 wins on the season. They went 21-36 against everyone else.
 
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msudaisy26 said:
Jordan Poole asked about the impact of the Draymond Green incident on the end of his time with the Warriors: “We’re in Washington now. Playing with Kuz. Great duo.”

Well those are the two greatest shooters of all-time in my opinion”, Poole said. Also built a relationship where I can ask them — I can text Steph. I can text Klay. I can call them. Have a conversation. That doesn’t leave. That doesn’t go anywhere. If anything, I just know the plays that they run.”

Two very different answers about his former teammates. I was very confident Green opted out because if Poole wasn't traded then he was leaving. This proves it for me.
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Well, one of them will be a Hall of Famer due to a maniacal desire to win. The other got paid, promptly acted entitled and has since been shipped out.

So, who gives a flip what Jordan Poole has to say? Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I don't see him ever being a difference making player again.

Poole got his bag, but that should have been the beginning of a new chapter for a player to improve and work. Sure didn't look like it with Poole. He's a perfect player for the Wizard to add in their attempt to lose.
 
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Alex P Keaton said:
General Malaise said:
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Dame, Clyde and Walton are all in the running for best Blazer of all time. Not going to rank them but.....

Brandon Roy deserves a seat at the table. If we're going to bring up Walton's injuries and "coulda beens" then we for sure need to bring Roy into this conversation. He was a ****ing badasssssss who gave Portland everything he had until he broke beyond repair. He sunk into major depression over it. That guy will always be my favorite Blazer and I love Dame. But Roy was the leader this team needed and gave the city all that he had. Love him.
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I’ll just assume this is shtick.
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So your first response to my heartfelt ode to Brandon Roy and his short time as a Blazer is to call it bogus? That's really rude and uncalled for. For a few bright years, Brandon Roy was everything in Portland. He played with bone on bone and gave the city all he had. He was an All Star. If Walton can get the praise for his brief time here before losing out to the injury bug than so too can Roy.

Always thought you were a nice guy but that was below board.
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I loved Brandon Roy in college. Big fan. I just don’t think he is anywhere close to a seat at the table for best Blazer of all time. But apologies for disrespecting Brandon Roy the player — not my intent. Truly couldn’t fathom the idea that he belongs on that list.

Edit to add: had zero idea B Roy was your lifelong all time favorite player. In that context, I can appreciate your fandom. My view of Tim Hardaway is similar — I value his impact beyond what other GS or Miami Heat fans might.
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You're also not saying Tim Hardaway needs to be in the conversation for the best Warrior or Heat player of all-time. Did he play a key role in helping those franchises improve, eventually resulting in championships? Absolutely. Is he worth mentioning after players like Steph & Wade and a handful of others for each team - no doubt.

Respect any big fan of a specific player, but when it comes down to "the best" conversations some names just don't make the cut. Brandon Roy is one of those names. Hell of a player, everyone that knows his story respects the hell out of him, etc. He just ain't one of the top 3 Blazers of all-time list from any objective viewpoint. That's not a dig, that's just an acceptance of reality. Fan of him or not.
 
msudaisy26 said:
Heard a really neat trivia answer yesterday. Please don't look it up and cheat.

Only one team in the NBA hasn't had a losing record over the last decade, can you guess who it is?
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So from 2013 on? My guess is Memphis.

Nope. Forgot about that dip they had pre 2020.
 
trader jake said:
msudaisy26 said:
Jordan Poole asked about the impact of the Draymond Green incident on the end of his time with the Warriors: “We’re in Washington now. Playing with Kuz. Great duo.”

Well those are the two greatest shooters of all-time in my opinion”, Poole said. Also built a relationship where I can ask them — I can text Steph. I can text Klay. I can call them. Have a conversation. That doesn’t leave. That doesn’t go anywhere. If anything, I just know the plays that they run.”

Two very different answers about his former teammates. I was very confident Green opted out because if Poole wasn't traded then he was leaving. This proves it for me.
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Well, one of them will be a Hall of Famer due to a maniacal desire to win. The other got paid, promptly acted entitled and has since been shipped out.

So, who gives a flip what Jordan Poole has to say? Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I don't see him ever being a difference making player again.

Poole got his bag, but that should have been the beginning of a new chapter for a player to improve and work. Sure didn't look like it with Poole. He's a perfect player for the Wizard to add in their attempt to lose.
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Someone cared because they asked him, but I don't think it is as simple as you are trying to make it. If it was the Warriors would have traded Poole during the season and it isn't like Draymond is above going off the deep end.
 
Dr. Octopus said:
I didn't read the article (it was pay-site) but supposedly Chris Paul went off on a reporter that asked him if he's ok coming off the bench for the Warriors.

Actually found it elsewhere: https://www.si.com/nba/2023/07/10/chris-paul-questions-reporter-assumed-not-starting-warriors


“You coaching?” Paul asked the reporter. “Well, I don’t know what the situation is going to be yet. I think that’ll be for us to figure out once we get going.”
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This is one of the many reasons I can't stand Paul. This isn't the first time he has done crap like this.
 
msudaisy26 said:
trader jake said:
msudaisy26 said:
Jordan Poole asked about the impact of the Draymond Green incident on the end of his time with the Warriors: “We’re in Washington now. Playing with Kuz. Great duo.”

Well those are the two greatest shooters of all-time in my opinion”, Poole said. Also built a relationship where I can ask them — I can text Steph. I can text Klay. I can call them. Have a conversation. That doesn’t leave. That doesn’t go anywhere. If anything, I just know the plays that they run.”

Two very different answers about his former teammates. I was very confident Green opted out because if Poole wasn't traded then he was leaving. This proves it for me.
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Well, one of them will be a Hall of Famer due to a maniacal desire to win. The other got paid, promptly acted entitled and has since been shipped out.

So, who gives a flip what Jordan Poole has to say? Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I don't see him ever being a difference making player again.

Poole got his bag, but that should have been the beginning of a new chapter for a player to improve and work. Sure didn't look like it with Poole. He's a perfect player for the Wizard to add in their attempt to lose.
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Someone cared because they asked him, but I don't think it is as simple as you are trying to make it. If it was the Warriors would have traded Poole during the season and it isn't like Draymond is above going off the deep end.
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All true. The Warriors tried to have their cake and eat it too the last few seasons. From keeping Poole & Draymond around together last year to the "two timelines" strategy the last few seasons. As long as Steph is still playing at a high level they need to do whatever they can realistically do to put a championship caliber roster around him. The rest is just noise.
 
msudaisy26 said:
Moe. said:
That 2017-2018 Clippers team looks so bad on paper in retrospect.
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I believe that is the team that played the Warriors in the playoffs and was down like 35 early in the 3rd and came back and won the game.
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I don’t think so, they finished in 10th. I realized that’s the year they traded Blake Griffin mid-season, so when you look at their roster for that year it doesn’t include him, so it looks much worse than it actually was for half the season.
 
Look up Jordan Poole's stats when he starts. He's got great numbers. I think 25/5/3. Efficiency is not there but the GSW offense was never designed for him to get the best looks. He's gonna be surrounded by crap in DC. Will be interesting to see if he can produce while being a top 2 scoring option and without the D focusing on Steph/Klay.
 
Dr. Octopus said:
I didn't read the article (it was pay-site) but supposedly Chris Paul went off on a reporter that asked him if he's ok coming off the bench for the Warriors.

Actually found it elsewhere: https://www.si.com/nba/2023/07/10/chris-paul-questions-reporter-assumed-not-starting-warriors


“You coaching?” Paul asked the reporter. “Well, I don’t know what the situation is going to be yet. I think that’ll be for us to figure out once we get going.”
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if there was an island nation of hold me back bro cheapshot artists kevin garnett and chris paul would be like the king and queen and rule with a supposedly iron fist but the minute they hit you they would you know run and hide and shout hold me back bro so much like in the real world no one would respect them take that to the bank bromigos
 
Brunell4MVP said:
Look up Jordan Poole's stats when he starts. He's got great numbers. I think 25/5/3. Efficiency is not there but the GSW offense was never designed for him to get the best looks. He's gonna be surrounded by crap in DC. Will be interesting to see if he can produce while being a top 2 scoring option and without the D focusing on Steph/Klay.
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GS only went 59-54 in the regular season with Poole starting. Considering their record over the years, that's pretty meh. His advanced analytics numbers were also on the average side. His PER is below league average, his VORP is almost exactly even, and his net rating has been -6 over 100 possessions. I would guess he will get more shots but will be less open . . . meaning he's more likely to be less efficient than more efficient.
 
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