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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (8 Viewers)
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
The Heat played hardball with Portland and got short end. I guess Heat culture isn't worth as much on the trade market as they think. You just hate see it.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It would be awesome if Portland called up Miami and offered them Jrue now.
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
It is a great deal for Portland. They have souch flexibility right now. They can tread water and see where things end up, they could move some of these assets for another good player and try to contend, they could go full tank and move Jrue this year for some decent pieces and maybe move Ayton in a year or two if his play improves and heis contract gets closer to the end.
I understand why the Bucks made the move, but I am not confident it works as well in game as it does on paper. Jrue was so versatile, defensively and his ability to without the ball. Lillard doesn't do that and we don't know if Middleton can.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Oh, dear.......
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Bowie, Oden, Ayton
Congrats Blazers
Absolutely THRILLED Ayton is finally out of town. And get to stop hearing how great he is from people that don't regularly (or at all) watch him play.
Congrats Blazers
Absolutely THRILLED Ayton is finally out of town. And get to stop hearing how great he is from people that don't regularly (or at all) watch him play.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Big defensive drop off for the Bucks.
I'm not totally sure this makes the Bucks better. They are swapping one of the best defensive guards in the league for one of the worst. Lillard also has sat out a lot of games the last few years, though some of those were certainly related to the Blazers tanking. Giannis wanted this though so the Bucks had to do it.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Bowie, Oden, Ayton
Congrats Blazers
Absolutely THRILLED Ayton is finally out of town. And get to stop hearing how great he is from people that don't regularly (or at all) watch him play.
Well, why did they draft him and give him a giant contract then?
General Malaise
Footballguy
I for one look forward the Defense Optional system Portland will run this year. Gonna be fun!
Kev4029
Footballguy
They were 27th in DRtg last season... They upgraded defensively at two positions. I think they did this with the intent to keep Jrue at least until close to the trade deadline. I think he may start at SF for them...
gruecd
Footballguy
Worth it.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Bowie, Oden, Ayton
Congrats Blazers
Absolutely THRILLED Ayton is finally out of town. And get to stop hearing how great he is from people that don't regularly (or at all) watch him play.
Well, why did they draft him and give him a giant contract then?
When they drafted him everyone was shocked. They needed a point guard, Luka was there, they hired Luka's coach and at the last minute Server made them take Ayton because they both went to Arizona. The resigning was just as crazy, Monte wanted him gone, they didn't want to max him, teams like the Pistons and Pacers were willing to sign and trade for him and then they just matched the Pacers offer because he was a RFA. I am guessing it was Saver again.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Hoping he'd be the modern day David Robinson and not play with the effort and softness of a late career Robert Parrish.Bowie, Oden, Ayton
Congrats Blazers
Absolutely THRILLED Ayton is finally out of town. And get to stop hearing how great he is from people that don't regularly (or at all) watch him play.
Well, why did they draft him and give him a giant contract then?
One of the worst contracts in the league. So so happy he's out of town and got some rotation pieces for him.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Heat fans so mad right now. They just KNEW they were gonna get him 
General Malaise
Footballguy
Hoping he'd be the modern day David Robinson and not play with the effort and softness of a late career Robert Parrish.Bowie, Oden, Ayton
Congrats Blazers
Absolutely THRILLED Ayton is finally out of town. And get to stop hearing how great he is from people that don't regularly (or at all) watch him play.
Well, why did they draft him and give him a giant contract then?
One of the worst contracts in the league. So so happy he's out of town and got some rotation pieces for him.
Well, if you found frustration with Ayton, I just can't wait for your review of Nurk after the season is over.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Heat fans so mad right now. They just KNEW they were gonna get him
It was never going to happen. I'm a giant idiot and I knew it was never going to happen. You can't use Culture, Pat Riley and Weather as trade chips. Jesus, lay off the blow, Heat fan.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I don't think Ayton is great, but we should give this a chance. A change of scenery might help.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I still don't know how Miami couldn't get this done.
I've got to imagine Portlands got another deal in the works so can't grade their return yet. (Even if I thank you for taking Ayton) Can't imagine them having all of Jrue/Simons/Sharpe/Scoot for too long
I've got to imagine Portlands got another deal in the works so can't grade their return yet. (Even if I thank you for taking Ayton) Can't imagine them having all of Jrue/Simons/Sharpe/Scoot for too long
Pipes
Footballguy
As a Bucks fans the hope is what Dame adds offensively has a great impact that what Jrue's loss will be on defense. Absolutely love Jrue but the Bucks needed more shooters and Dame is one of the best in the game. This team has had 2 disappointing playoff exits after 2021 so I don't mind them shaking things up and that they did. If it makes Giannis happy that's even better.
General Malaise
Footballguy
He's going to be playing with a bunch of guys his age as opposed to guys his parents' age, so that's something. Maybe he gels with the youngins.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Jimmy Butler is already on TikTok indicating that the NBA needs to look into the Bucks for tampering. He is not naming names, but alludes that he "heard it from someone."
It might be just sour grapes, but who knows....
It might be just sour grapes, but who knows....
SWC
Bromigo
i sort of feel like you were always my brother from another mother so i am hopeful that this will get dame a championship and we can celebrate together from miles apart take that to the bank bromigo
Gr00vus
Footballguy
What does tampering mean in the context of a trade?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I don't think 2022 was a bad or disappointing exit at all. Down one of your best players and you lost in 7 to the eastern conference champs.
SWC
Bromigo
its a fancier way of saying i am butthurt take that to the bank brohan
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Good luck to Blazers paying him $34m/yr he's owed the next 3 seasons. I've seen every game he's played (the majority in person) and his lack of effort is astounding. The whole world finally got to see it (again) with JOCK LANDALE outplaying him last playoffs.
When the going gets tough, Ayton pouts. I wish Portland all the best with him. I think he's perfect player for a bad team where there's no expectations and he can lollygag around the court. Just ignore he's giving this effort while making $34m/yr.....
General Malaise
Footballguy
He's too busy complaining on Twitter how much it costs to fill up his Bugati.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
The NBA should look into it. It isn't like Butler ever held any grudges or gave any sound bites that would sound like sour grapes.
General Malaise
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Good luck to Blazers paying him $34m/yr he's owed the next 3 seasons. I've seen every game he's played (the majority in person) and his lack of effort is astounding. The whole world finally got to see it (again) with JOCK LANDALE outplaying him last playoffs.
When the going gets tough, Ayton pouts. I wish Portland all the best with him. I think he's perfect player for a bad team where there's no expectations and he can lollygag around the court. Just ignore he's giving this effort while making $34m/yr.....
We get it you are happy he is gone, but maybe this turns into an Oladipo for George trade. Oladipo left the Magic and Thunder went home and turned his career around before the injuries. It isn't a guarantee, but there is a chance he is happier in Portland and turns it around.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They still hold all the leverage - this isn't over.Heat fans so mad right now. They just KNEW they were gonna get him
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
HOLY ****
General Malaise
Footballguy
Dame gets to reunite with Terry Stotts in Milwaukiee!
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
had to look at that tweet like 10 times to make sure it wasn't a fake Woj.
caustic
Footballguy
I don't think Ayton's contract will be too much of a problem for Portland. His deal will expire right as Scoot & Shaedon's extensions kick in. The effort issues have been well documented, but this guy was an important contributor to a Finals team just two years ago - not a bad reclamation project.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I know the Spurs are in a full-on youth movement, but for a year or two Jrue would be a solid bridge to their future PG (whoever that is), and they've got a stack of assets to deal from.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
i think that's right. the Bucks biggest issue was how clogged their offense got in the playoffs time after time. I think that Giannis and Brook can hold up ok with the defense and Dame will obviously take the offense to another level.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Holliday is a great guy to have, not just on the court but he and his wife Lauren were fantastic members of the community here. This is truly a big loss for Milwaukee.
Pipes
Footballguy
I wish I felt the same but I don't. The Heat had injuries too and the Bucks blew multiple 4th quarter leads that series. The Heat, especially Butler played well but as the #1 seed it's disappointing losing a 1st round series 4-1.
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