2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (1 Viewer)

[the moops]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.

 

[General Malaise]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.

I asked GPTCHAT and AI said I was right! So put that in your pipe and smoke it!

 

[SWC]

anteater took dame first in the all star draft and now they are brohans from different mothrans playing bball in brewtown thats pretty cool take that to the bank brochachos

 

[SWC]

and who says that dame cant play good d lets see what happens when he gets into a culture where d is key and a part of the team identity he might be a steal machine next year im going to give it a benefit of a doubt that is all i am saying brohans take that to the bank

 

[Desert_Power]

and who says that dame cant play good d lets see what happens when he gets into a culture where d is key and a part of the team identity he might be a steal machine next year im going to give it a benefit of a doubt that is all i am saying brohans take that to the bank

We could use some Deer Culture shtick around here to compete with the Heat

 

[msudaisy26]

and who says that dame cant play good d lets see what happens when he gets into a culture where d is key and a part of the team identity he might be a steal machine next year im going to give it a benefit of a doubt that is all i am saying brohans take that to the bank

We could use some Deer Culture shtick around here to compete with the Heat

Deer God no.

 

[Gatorman]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

 

[General Malaise]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

I wasn't aware the NBA got involved. Can you elaborate on that?

 

[Kev4029]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.

It's nearly unanimously Jokic among NBA talking heads. ESPN had a poll of NBA scouts/coaches/GMs and the vote for best player in the NBA was 87% Jokic, 13% Giannis, 0% anybody else.

 

[Kev4029]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

I wasn't aware the NBA got involved. Can you elaborate on that?

The NBA threatened a fine for Lillard and his agent for publicly requesting a trade and behind the scenes telling 28 teams that he wouldn't play for them.

 

[General Malaise]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.

It's nearly unanimously Jokic among NBA talking heads. ESPN had a poll of NBA scouts/coaches/GMs and the vote for best player in the NBA was 87% Jokic, 13% Giannis, 0% anybody else.

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

 

[SWC]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

 

[Gatorman]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

Oh, I don't care. I'm happy for Dame. I'll be happier when playoff Jimmy takes it out on him and the Bucks for 50 since no one on that team can guard Jimmy. I was happy for Denver. I would have been happier if Miami won, but Denver deserved a win. I'll be happy for Dame as well, but happier if Jimmy gets his first.

 

[modogg]

Kelly Oubre to the Sixers >>>>>>> Dame to the Bucks

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Grayson Allen relentlessly picked on in the playoffs

Wasn't he shipped out in the deal?

 

[SWC]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

Oh, I don't care. I'm happy for Dame. I'll be happier when playoff Jimmy takes it out on him and the Bucks for 50 since no one on that team can guard Jimmy. I was happy for Denver. I would have been happier if Miami won, but Denver deserved a win. I'll be happy for Dame as well, but happier if Jimmy gets his first.

you seem to care maybe a little too much have you ever thought about taking up model railroading you could build a little village and name the engine the jimmy express or something it would probably take the edge off take that to the woo wooooooo bank bromigo

 

[Gatorman]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

Oh, I don't care. I'm happy for Dame. I'll be happier when playoff Jimmy takes it out on him and the Bucks for 50 since no one on that team can guard Jimmy. I was happy for Denver. I would have been happier if Miami won, but Denver deserved a win. I'll be happy for Dame as well, but happier if Jimmy gets his first.

you seem to care maybe a little too much have you ever thought about taking up model railroading you could build a little village and name the engine the jimmy express or something it would probably take the edge off take that to the woo wooooooo bank bromigo

It's football season and the dolphins matter. I don't really start thinking of Basketball (outside of this thread) until Christmas or even new years...

 

[Yo Mama]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

Oh, I don't care. I'm happy for Dame. I'll be happier when playoff Jimmy takes it out on him and the Bucks for 50 since no one on that team can guard Jimmy. I was happy for Denver. I would have been happier if Miami won, but Denver deserved a win. I'll be happy for Dame as well, but happier if Jimmy gets his first.

There’s also a nonzero chance Miami pivots to filling out their remaining roster with only minimum deals in order to barely squeak under the 2nd apron, and misses the playoffs entirely.

There’s also a nonzero chance Spoelstra takes those unsigned minimum guys and turns them into playoff rotation players.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.

Is this really a question? - seems like an obvious answer, unless you think teams generally take the lesser offer when presented with two choices.

 

[General Malaise]

Grayson Allen relentlessly picked on in the playoffs

Wasn't he shipped out in the deal?

Yup. Joins the Suns who now officially have the most unlikeable roster in the NBA to go with an owner who is a megadoooooooooosher.

 

[General Malaise]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

Oh, I don't care. I'm happy for Dame. I'll be happier when playoff Jimmy takes it out on him and the Bucks for 50 since no one on that team can guard Jimmy. I was happy for Denver. I would have been happier if Miami won, but Denver deserved a win. I'll be happy for Dame as well, but happier if Jimmy gets his first.

you seem to care maybe a little too much have you ever thought about taking up model railroading you could build a little village and name the engine the jimmy express or something it would probably take the edge off take that to the woo wooooooo bank bromigo

It's football season and the dolphins matter. I don't really start thinking of Basketball (outside of this thread) until Christmas or even new years...

No love for the Marlins????

 

[SWC]

Kelly Oubre to the Sixers >>>>>>> Dame to the Bucks

well done broahn that was good take that to the bank

what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.

Is this really a question? - seems like an obvious answer, unless you think teams generally take the lesser offer when presented with two choices.

it seems like an obvious answer but then you have the bears in the nfl so who knows take that to the bank brohan

 

[the moops]

Grayson Allen relentlessly picked on in the playoffs

Wasn't he shipped out in the deal?

Yes. The point is their two best defensive guards, Jrue and Carter, were integral in their defensive schemes. Allen and Connaughton were picked on over and over. The same will happen with Dame now and I just wonder if even having a great defensive wall behind him with Giannis and Lopez, is going to make for some ugly defensive possessions. Obviously Dame won't be played off the floor, but MIL backcourt is an ugly defensive unit right now

 

[Mister CIA]

and who says that dame cant play good d lets see what happens when he gets into a culture where d is key and a part of the team identity he might be a steal machine next year im going to give it a benefit of a doubt that is all i am saying brohans take that to the bank

We could use some Deer Culture shtick around here to compete with the Heat

My Link

 

[Yo Mama]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.

It's nearly unanimously Jokic among NBA talking heads. ESPN had a poll of NBA scouts/coaches/GMs and the vote for best player in the NBA was 87% Jokic, 13% Giannis, 0% anybody else.

Isn’t the current greatest player in the WORLD right now Dennis Schroeder? He did win MVP of the WORLD championship this year. Better than the NBA championship imo.

 

[strykerpks]

Grayson Allen relentlessly picked on in the playoffs

Wasn't he shipped out in the deal?

Yes. The point is their two best defensive guards, Jrue and Carter, were integral in their defensive schemes. Allen and Connaughton were picked on over and over. The same will happen with Dame now and I just wonder if even having a great defensive wall behind him with Giannis and Lopez, is going to make for some ugly defensive possessions. Obviously Dame won't be played off the floor, but MIL backcourt is an ugly defensive unit right now

Bud was also frustratingly stubborn with his defensive scheme even in the face of obvious exploitation. I'm not sure what Adrian Griffin will bring to the table but some talk around here is that he may be able to help mask some of their deficiencies. Time will tell.

 

[Gatorman]

Okay, fine. Change my statement to read the 2nd greatest player on the planet. Dame and the 2nd best player on the planet! Who doesn't want to watch that????

gatorman apparently take that to the bank brohan

Oh, I don't care. I'm happy for Dame. I'll be happier when playoff Jimmy takes it out on him and the Bucks for 50 since no one on that team can guard Jimmy. I was happy for Denver. I would have been happier if Miami won, but Denver deserved a win. I'll be happy for Dame as well, but happier if Jimmy gets his first.

you seem to care maybe a little too much have you ever thought about taking up model railroading you could build a little village and name the engine the jimmy express or something it would probably take the edge off take that to the woo wooooooo bank bromigo

It's football season and the dolphins matter. I don't really start thinking of Basketball (outside of this thread) until Christmas or even new years...

No love for the Marlins????

Marlins being buried in the Dolphin, Heat, Messi news. If they make the NL Championship I'm sure 15000 people will show for the games if the roof is closed and they give away free hot dogs...

 

[Gatorman]

what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.

Is this really a question? - seems like an obvious answer, unless you think teams generally take the lesser offer when presented with two choices.

That's the interesting question. My understanding (on what is being reported down here) is that there was no "further" commnication between the Suns and the Heat after the inital talks. So the Suns didn't say "we have been offerred X" by the bucks for the heat to counter?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

How terrible is this:

Sixers Get: Holiday; Covington (full circle Process)

Clippers Get: Harden; PJ Tucker; Jabari Walker

Blazers Get: Mann; De'Anthony Melton; and expiring contracts of Batum and Marcus Morris

Sprinkle in some picks or swaps somewhere? The salaries work.

 

[msudaisy26]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

I didn't say you. I said Butler and the Heat are.

Doesn't matter what Heat offered, the Blazers didn't want it.

They didn't get involved, they told Dame and his agent that they can't tell everyone that they won't play for them. The NBA would have done that to any player and any team that tried it. It is bad for business, this isn't special to Dame or the Heat.

It is hilarious that you think or wonder that the Blazers would be petty for no reason, as if they wouldn't take the best deal for their billion dollar franchise to some how get even over a perceived slight against the Heat.

 

[Navin Johnson]

I'm also very very very happy for Dame to be able to play with the greatest player on the planet. I think most Blazer fans are excited for him and look forward to watching him play with Giannis. It's far more exciting than Dame with Jimmy. Even Heat fan has to be eager to see what Dame will look like in a Bucks jersey next to the Freak. That's great for all of us!

Hey - **** you bud.

That also stuck out to me

I don't get it. Is Giannis not the greatest player on the planet right now? Who is better? I'm not a rankings guy but he seems like the best player in the world.

It's nearly unanimously Jokic among NBA talking heads. ESPN had a poll of NBA scouts/coaches/GMs and the vote for best player in the NBA was 87% Jokic, 13% Giannis, 0% anybody else.

Isn’t the current greatest player in the WORLD right now Dennis Schroeder? He did win MVP of the WORLD championship this year. Better than the NBA championship imo.

At the Kickz shop in München
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zLik6y5QpimhMB549

 

[msudaisy26]

How terrible is this:

Sixers Get: Holiday; Covington (full circle Process)

Clippers Get: Harden; PJ Tucker; Jabari Walker

Blazers Get: Mann; De'Anthony Melton; and expiring contracts of Batum and Marcus Morris

Sprinkle in some picks or swaps somewhere? The salaries work.

If the rumors are true that a bunch of teams are already trying to get Jrue then this offer doesn't get it done without a bunch of picks.

 

[Navin Johnson]

How terrible is this:

Sixers Get: Holiday; Covington (full circle Process)

Clippers Get: Harden; PJ Tucker; Jabari Walker

Blazers Get: Mann; De'Anthony Melton; and expiring contracts of Batum and Marcus Morris

Sprinkle in some picks or swaps somewhere? The salaries work.

I don't think that comes close for POR

 

[Gatorman]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

I didn't say you. I said Butler and the Heat are.

Doesn't matter what Heat offered, the Blazers didn't want it.

They didn't get involved, they told Dame and his agent that they can't tell everyone that they won't play for them. The NBA would have done that to any player and any team that tried it. It is bad for business, this isn't special to Dame or the Heat.

It is hilarious that you think or wonder that the Blazers would be petty for no reason, as if they wouldn't take the best deal for their billion dollar franchise to some how get even over a perceived slight against the Heat.

Again, it is being reported down here that the Blazers never engaged the heat after the initial discussions 2 months ago, Does that seem like they were going for the "best deal" if they didn't engage another interested party?

 

[General Malaise]

How terrible is this:

Sixers Get: Holiday; Covington (full circle Process)

Clippers Get: Harden; PJ Tucker; Jabari Walker

Blazers Get: Mann; De'Anthony Melton; and expiring contracts of Batum and Marcus Morris

Sprinkle in some picks or swaps somewhere? The salaries work.

If the rumors are true that a bunch of teams are already trying to get Jrue then this offer doesn't get it done without a bunch of picks.

I haven't even heard of any of those players. Who is Mann? Melton? Sounds made up.

 

[General Malaise]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

I didn't say you. I said Butler and the Heat are.

Doesn't matter what Heat offered, the Blazers didn't want it.

They didn't get involved, they told Dame and his agent that they can't tell everyone that they won't play for them. The NBA would have done that to any player and any team that tried it. It is bad for business, this isn't special to Dame or the Heat.

It is hilarious that you think or wonder that the Blazers would be petty for no reason, as if they wouldn't take the best deal for their billion dollar franchise to some how get even over a perceived slight against the Heat.

Again, it is being reported down here that the Blazers never engaged the heat after the initial discussions 2 months ago, Does that seem like they were going for the "best deal" if they didn't engage another interested party?

The Miami Heat offered a trade package that included Tyler Herro and two first-round draft picks for Damian Lillard, per
@MarcJSpears

 

[Instinctive]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

1. Unless it had butler or bam in it, it was a worse offer
2. don't care
3. smoke = fire he was very clearly in the deal discussed
4. they didn't?

 

[SWC]

tyler hero has to feel so loved in miami right now take that to the bank brohans

 

[msudaisy26]

As a Miami fan I do have a lot of questions about this, but I'm not "crushed" that we didn't get him.

What questions? Miami made an offer, Portland said no, other teams made offers and Portland took one. There is no questions, there is no tampering it is a trade. Jimmy Buckets and the Heat are quickly going from hard working overachievers to whiney bitches really fast.

Perhaps, I am not being a whiny ***** but simply have questions:
1) what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.
2) Were the Heat being "smug and cheap" with Portland, or was Portland being petty in trying to show Dame and Miami that it would be "anyone but Miami" in this case.
3) was Herro part of the deal or not? Some people (Winhorst) are saying Tyler was never a part of the deal.
4) Why did the NBA get involved here when they never have in any of the other posturing in these types of deals (with the exception of the Chris Paul to the lakers deal)

I didn't say you. I said Butler and the Heat are.

Doesn't matter what Heat offered, the Blazers didn't want it.

They didn't get involved, they told Dame and his agent that they can't tell everyone that they won't play for them. The NBA would have done that to any player and any team that tried it. It is bad for business, this isn't special to Dame or the Heat.

It is hilarious that you think or wonder that the Blazers would be petty for no reason, as if they wouldn't take the best deal for their billion dollar franchise to some how get even over a perceived slight against the Heat.

Again, it is being reported down here that the Blazers never engaged the heat after the initial discussions 2 months ago, Does that seem like they were going for the "best deal" if they didn't engage another interested party?

Yeah, especially if the Heats offer was extremely low.

 

[SWC]

why does it matter if miami and portland did not talk since july what am i missing take that to the bank brohans

 

[caustic]

You know who probably has the assets and need for somebody like Jrue Holiday?

who?

I got distracted while writing this... I was thinking Miami, he would be a perfect fit there and would come cheaper than Dame.

Another that would be really interesting - Golden State for CP3 and their 26/28 first rounders and maybe something like Moody.

The Clippers have a bunch of flotsam on expirings and could trade their 28/30 picks as well.

This is the one I keep coming back to. CP3 is the perfect salary filler, plus the Warriors have multiple tradable picks, a couple interesting young guys, and a championship window that's rapidly closing.

 

[Kev4029]

How terrible is this:

Sixers Get: Holiday; Covington (full circle Process)

Clippers Get: Harden; PJ Tucker; Jabari Walker

Blazers Get: Mann; De'Anthony Melton; and expiring contracts of Batum and Marcus Morris

Sprinkle in some picks or swaps somewhere? The salaries work.

Great for everybody other than the Blazers. That is absolutely pitiful for them. They don't need guards, Batum miiiight have enough value to somebody to get a second round pick at the trade deadline. Morris would be immediately bought out.

 

[Kev4029]

You know who probably has the assets and need for somebody like Jrue Holiday?

who?

I got distracted while writing this... I was thinking Miami, he would be a perfect fit there and would come cheaper than Dame.

Another that would be really interesting - Golden State for CP3 and their 26/28 first rounders and maybe something like Moody.

The Clippers have a bunch of flotsam on expirings and could trade their 28/30 picks as well.

This is the one I keep coming back to. CP3 is the perfect salary filler, plus the Warriors have multiple tradable picks, a couple interesting young guys, and a championship window that's rapidly closing.

Once it gets into a bidding war, I think they might ultimately present the best package.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I feel like I’m about to get put through the wringer by people who are bound to misinterpret the point that I’m about to make. I keep reading that any offer that Miami made that didn’t include Bam was worse—and I agree with that—but I also think that people are completely over estimating the gap between Adebayo and Ayton. To make crystal clear—I think that Bam is the better player—so please don’t infer that I’m suggesting otherwise.

However—look at Bam’s career numbers versus Ayton’s career numbers.
For his career—Ayton has averaged 16.7 points, 10.6, 1.6 assists, 59.7% from the field, and 75.5% from the free throw line.

Adebayo has averaged; 14.7 points, 8.5 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 55.4% from the field, and also 75.5% from the free throw line.

Bam does average more steals and blocks than Ayton—but aside from that—the numbers are very comparable—and arguably favor Ayton. However—keep in mind that Ayton has been averaging these numbers with the limited opportunity as being the THIRD or Fourth option on his team. Bam is putting up comparable numbers being the primary or secondary option thus far in his career. Bam is better—no doubt. However, let’s not act like Bam is god and Ayton is trash. There is a difference between the two—but I don’t think that difference is Jrue Holiday. This is why I think Portland navigated a wonderful trade.

 

[SWC]

remember when chicago wouldnt give up loul deng for kobe bryant what the hell was that about seems like it might be relevant here take that to the bank brohans

 

[Navin Johnson]

You know who probably has the assets and need for somebody like Jrue Holiday?

who?

I got distracted while writing this... I was thinking Miami, he would be a perfect fit there and would come cheaper than Dame.

Another that would be really interesting - Golden State for CP3 and their 26/28 first rounders and maybe something like Moody.

The Clippers have a bunch of flotsam on expirings and could trade their 28/30 picks as well.

This is the one I keep coming back to. CP3 is the perfect salary filler, plus the Warriors have multiple tradable picks, a couple interesting young guys, and a championship window that's rapidly closing.

Warrior only have a 2028 to trade unless they remove the protections on the outgoing 2024 (might not be conveyed until 2026). Outgoing 2030 restricts the 2029

 

[Dr. Octopus]

what was the Heats' actual offer, and was it better or worse than what they (Portland) ultimately got.

Is this really a question? - seems like an obvious answer, unless you think teams generally take the lesser offer when presented with two choices.

That's the interesting question. My understanding (on what is being reported down here) is that there was no "further" commnication between the Suns and the Heat after the inital talks. So the Suns didn't say "we have been offerred X" by the bucks for the heat to counter?

I’m guessing you mean Blazers, but if they found a deal they like are they obligated to go back to a team that made an offer earlier?

I think sometimes “keep it simple” applies, I don’t think anything petty happened by any of the parties. I think the Blazers found that to be the best offer out there.

 

[Navin Johnson]

You know who probably has the assets and need for somebody like Jrue Holiday?

who?

I got distracted while writing this... I was thinking Miami, he would be a perfect fit there and would come cheaper than Dame.

Another that would be really interesting - Golden State for CP3 and their 26/28 first rounders and maybe something like Moody.

The Clippers have a bunch of flotsam on expirings and could trade their 28/30 picks as well.

This is the one I keep coming back to. CP3 is the perfect salary filler, plus the Warriors have multiple tradable picks, a couple interesting young guys, and a championship window that's rapidly closing.

Once it gets into a bidding war, I think they might ultimately present the best package.

I think Boston with all of their picks can offer better.

 

[Navin Johnson]

I feel like I’m about to get put through the wringer by people who are bound to misinterpret the point that I’m about to make. I keep reading that any offer that Miami made that didn’t include Bam was worse—and I agree with that—but I also think that people are completely over estimating the gap between Adebayo and Ayton. To make crystal clear—I think that Bam is the better player—so please don’t infer that I’m suggesting otherwise.

However—look at Bam’s career numbers versus Ayton’s career numbers.
For his career—Ayton has averaged 16.7 points, 10.6, 1.6 assists, 59.7% from the field, and 75.5% from the free throw line.

Adebayo has averaged; 14.7 points, 8.5 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 55.4% from the field, and also 75.5% from the free throw line.

Bam does average more steals and blocks than Ayton—but aside from that—the numbers are very comparable—and arguably favor Ayton. However—keep in mind that Ayton has been averaging these numbers with the limited opportunity as being the THIRD or Fourth option on his team. Bam is putting up comparable numbers being the primary or secondary option thus far in his career. Bam is better—no doubt. However, let’s not act like Bam is god and Ayton is trash. There is a difference between the two—but I don’t think that difference is Jrue Holiday. This is why I think Portland navigated a wonderful trade.

It wasn't just adding Ayton though. Dumping Nurkic can also be seen as a net positive. Who facilitates and takes Nurkic in a MIA-POR trade?

 

[Navin Johnson]

remember when chicago wouldnt give up loul deng for kobe bryant what the hell was that about seems like it might be relevant here take that to the bank brohans

IIRC, Kobe wouldn't go if they gave up Deng. He basically wanted to force his way out with LA getting scraps in return.