The Big Donkey
Footballguy
It is really a bummer that we've spent two #1s and #2 on three of the five spots already, and here we are.
Watching Garrett Wilson on Sunday night, coulda woulda shoulda.
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2023 NY Giants - (Schoen & Daboll episode 2 – Danny turns Dimes into Dollars) (1 Viewer)
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It is really a bummer that we've spent two #1s and #2 on three of the five spots already, and here we are.
Watching Garrett Wilson on Sunday night, coulda woulda shoulda.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
"#NYGiants are running out of healthy bodies up front on the offensive line, so compounding the lack of execution and bad play with a numbers' game.
I asked Brian Daboll if they needed to bring OL in this week just to compete on a short week, and he said they were still going through medical evals.
If John Michael Schmitz and Shane Lemieux are out, that's two holes. Ben Bredeson was moving very slowly in the locker room last night.
If he's banged up and can't go, all three of the Giants' centers would be on the shelf, at least for this week."
Sweet
@art_stapleton
"#NYGiants are running out of healthy bodies up front on the offensive line, so compounding the lack of execution and bad play with a numbers' game.
I asked Brian Daboll if they needed to bring OL in this week just to compete on a short week, and he said they were still going through medical evals.
If John Michael Schmitz and Shane Lemieux are out, that's two holes. Ben Bredeson was moving very slowly in the locker room last night.
If he's banged up and can't go, all three of the Giants' centers would be on the shelf, at least for this week."
Sweet
Tank for Caleb Williams
I'm done with Jones ... 9ers got in his head with the Afraid to throw tthe Ball Comments.
Jones was literally terrified to thrown downfield from the start of this game and Sea sensed it and built confidence off of it.
This was the worst game of Jones career and the the beginning of the end for Jones ... he'll never recover from this
Trade every player possible starting with the Obvious (try to get a 4th rounder for each)
- Leonard Williams
- Adoree Jackson
- Saquon
- Xavier Mckinney
- Glowinski
- Parris Campbell (Dont tell the other teams but this guy is freakin aweful!!!!!!!!)
- Roches and or Ashawn Robinson
- Daniel Jones (Trade him the second a contending team loses their QB)
- Okereke ( Same here ... this guy is freakin aweful!!!!!!!!)
- Waller
Terpman22
Footballguy
Wow after all that offseason bluster, out on him 4 game into his new contract eh?
I hope you guys trade or cut him
2023 Dead cap hit: $81M
2024 Dead cap hit: $69M
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Neither of those will happen.Wow after all that offseason bluster, out on him 4 game into his new contract eh?
I hope you guys trade or cut him
2023 Dead cap hit: $81M
2024 Dead cap hit: $69M
The contract was structured so that we had an out in 2025 (22mm dead cap) and 11mm dead cap in 2026.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Its a win/win for rival fans. Trade him, cap screwed. Keep him, team screwed.Neither of those will happen.Wow after all that offseason bluster, out on him 4 game into his new contract eh?
I hope you guys trade or cut him
2023 Dead cap hit: $81M
2024 Dead cap hit: $69M
The contract was structured so that we had an out in 2025 (22mm dead cap) and 11mm dead cap in 2026.
Giants lose 2 players to injury during 'tush push' play vs. Seahawks
Giants lose 2 players to injury during 'tush push' play vs. Seahawks
Giants head coach Brian Daboll said the team had not practiced the play live before attempting it on Monday.
Center John Michael Schmitz and tight end Daniel Bellinger did not return after a fourth-and-1 rush attempt during the Giants' opening drive of the game.
That rush play was the "tush push,"
Why would the Giants with the weakest IOL in the NFL run a play theyve never ran before right into the strength of the Seahawks D (Bobby Wagner)
It is absolutely crazy how bad things are going for the Giants ... Schmidtz was already injured before they ran the damn play !!!!!!!!!! He was limping around earlier in the first drive
By the way ... Thibedeux being the great teamate that he is walked over and shook Geno Smiths hand while he was in a heated argument with his teamate Xavier Mckinney
2nd week in a row he decided to take the opposing teams side in an argument
I didnt notice the Seahawks recipricating friendly gestures while they were beating Jones brains in play after play
2nd week in a row he decided to take the opposing teams side in an argument
I didnt notice the Seahawks recipricating friendly gestures while they were beating Jones brains in play after play
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Signed to our practice squad, I present to you Justin Pugh.
Per @MikeGarafolo
"The #Giants are signing OL Justin Pugh to their practice squad, sources say. The team’s 2013 first-round pick returns to East Rutherford to join an offensive line in need of help and depth."
Per @MikeGarafolo
"The #Giants are signing OL Justin Pugh to their practice squad, sources say. The team’s 2013 first-round pick returns to East Rutherford to join an offensive line in need of help and depth."
If Healthy Probably their best Olineman going into the Miami game. His PFF Ratings for the last year 61 and the last 3 years are higher than anyone currenyly on the Giants, except for Thomas,
I also dont get what is going with Glowinski ... I get that he sux but hes way better than Lemieux
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't know either.
Looked awful game 1 and then dropped way down the depth chart.
Good to see from, get this...a guy who carries the 6th highest cap hit this year on the team. Well 7th if you want include Kenny G's dead cap of 14.7mm.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Giants workout OT
"The Giants tried out former Titans OT Jamarco Jones.
Jones was working as a starter for part of camp with Tennessee but was released after multiple fights during training camp practices.
He previously spent 4 seasons with the Seahawks."
*******
Could use some fight in this team.
"The Giants tried out former Titans OT Jamarco Jones.
Jones was working as a starter for part of camp with Tennessee but was released after multiple fights during training camp practices.
He previously spent 4 seasons with the Seahawks."
*******
Could use some fight in this team.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
RB Saquon Barkley is listed as questionable for Sunday vs Dolphins.
LT Andrew Thomas (hamstring), C John Michael Schmitz (shoulder) and G Shane Lemieux (groin) all OUT.
LB Micah McFadden (ankle) also questionable along with TE Daniel Bellinger (knee).
*****
Ezeudu-Glowinski-Brederson-McKethan-Neal
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@JordanRaanan
RB Saquon Barkley is listed as questionable for Sunday vs Dolphins.
LT Andrew Thomas (hamstring), C John Michael Schmitz (shoulder) and G Shane Lemieux (groin) all OUT.
LB Micah McFadden (ankle) also questionable along with TE Daniel Bellinger (knee).
*****
Ezeudu-Glowinski-Brederson-McKethan-Neal
.CHEESE AND RICE!!!Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
RB Saquon Barkley is listed as questionable for Sunday vs Dolphins.
LT Andrew Thomas (hamstring), C John Michael Schmitz (shoulder) and G Shane Lemieux (groin) all OUT.
LB Micah McFadden (ankle) also questionable along with TE Daniel Bellinger (knee).
*****
Ezeudu-Glowinski-Brederson-McKethan-Neal
karl.Racki
Footballguy
How did big mouth Evan Neal do today?
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
"Daniel Jones admits his neck soreness and pain feels “similar” to what he had in 2021. He had an X-ray tonight, awaiting results, and will get a scan tomorrow. Not encouraging."
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
30 sacks given up through 5 games...
- Jones if healthy has a chance at David Carr's single season record of 76 (2002)
- Giants on pace to secure the 2nd all time sacks against in a single season of 78 (1997 Cardinals)
- 1st all time sits with the 1986 Eagles at 104 (Cunningham/Jaworski/M. Cavanaugh).
- Jones if healthy has a chance at David Carr's single season record of 76 (2002)
- Giants on pace to secure the 2nd all time sacks against in a single season of 78 (1997 Cardinals)
- 1st all time sits with the 1986 Eagles at 104 (Cunningham/Jaworski/M. Cavanaugh).
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
"Just how bad was the Giants play at right guard alone yesterday:
Marcus McKethan (14 pass block snaps) and Jalen Mayfield got a 0.0 PFF pass blocking grade after McKethan was injured.
Mayfield was tied for 50th out of 50 qualifying guards this week with a pass block win rate of 75%. McKethan before he was injured was 33%!"
Looks like the Giants failled miserably with their reach picks of Ezeudu and McKethan as well as their 1st rd pick of Neal ... 0 for 3
Look at these pathetic PFF #'s from Yesterdays game
- OL Jalen Mayfield (25.9)
- OL Joshua Ezeudu (27.9)
- OL Matt Peart (31.6)
- OL Evan Neal (31.6)
- OL Ben Bredeson (41.0)
drummer
Footballguy
Jeezuz, we all know what happened to Carr.
I felt bad for Jones last game, despite him getting paid. But, getting paid would make it easier.
It's already happened to Jones ... Past 3 games he is terrified to throw the ball.
drummer
Footballguy
I can't blame him for that. Or getting all that guaranteed money. It's like every snap he takes could be his last.
Giants to work out former Bengals OT La’el Collins, per report
Giants add OT Yodny Cajuste to practice squad, designate Cole Beasley to return from IR
Giants to work out former Bengals OT La’el Collins, per report
Giants add OT Yodny Cajuste to practice squad, designate Cole Beasley to return from IR
www.bigblueview.com
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28 of Evan Neals 40 Starts at Bama were on the Left Side. 13 games LG in 2019, 12 games RT in 2020 and 15 games LT - First-team All-SEC (2021).
I have to imagine LT/RT are very different for some players particularly less athletic/coordinated players.
Put Neal on the left side of the line (where he had most of his success @ Bama) next to Thomas @ LG and Sign Collins to play RT
LT - Thomas
LG - Neal
C - Schmidts
RG - Pugh
RT - Collins
That has potential to be an immediately decent to good Oline with Youth and Beef from C to LT and Veteran experience and leadership on the right side
I have to imagine LT/RT are very different for some players particularly less athletic/coordinated players.
Put Neal on the left side of the line (where he had most of his success @ Bama) next to Thomas @ LG and Sign Collins to play RT
LT - Thomas
LG - Neal
C - Schmidts
RG - Pugh
RT - Collins
That has potential to be an immediately decent to good Oline with Youth and Beef from C to LT and Veteran experience and leadership on the right side
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Early line on the Bills game +14.5 lol. edit: 4th time already this season for a national audience to bear witness to this mess..
I think they leave Neal at RT this year, see what he can do with Pugh next to him.
:sigh:
- In 6th spot currently, games of interest this week:
- Minn at Chicago 1-4 vs 1-4
- NE at Vegas 1-4 vs 2-3
- Cards at Rams 1-4 vs 2-3
I think they leave Neal at RT this year, see what he can do with Pugh next to him.
:sigh:
- In 6th spot currently, games of interest this week:
- Minn at Chicago 1-4 vs 1-4
- NE at Vegas 1-4 vs 2-3
- Cards at Rams 1-4 vs 2-3
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Out
- QB Daniel Jones (neck)
- LT Andrew Thomas (hamstring)
- OL John Michael Schmitz (shoulder)
- OL Matt Peart (shoulder)
- LB Azeez Ojulari (ankle) - What?
- RB Gary Brightwell (ankle)
- RB Saquon Barkley (ankle)
- DL DJ Davidson (knee)
- OL Shane Lemieux (groin)
- OL Evan Neal (ankle)
- LB Micah McFadden (ankle)
- TE Darren Waller (groin)
Hot Supper!
Cheese and Rice!
I guess the man was right when he said "There's always lower than rock bottom"
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
This guy has been undependable to be available.
All his injuries have been lower body. Hamstring, both calves, ankles. Tore his ACL as a high school senior, redshirted and didn't miss a game in college (2yrs).
Yenrub
Footballguy
It’s a shame that he can’t seem to stay healthy because he is an above average pass rusher.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Can't remember where I read it but Carl Banks thought this kid had 15 sacks in him if healthy.
Yenrub
Footballguy
I recall seeing that too.
The kid has only played in 27 games for his career but has 13.5 sacks. That's a sack every other game.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
10/14 Roster moves.
OL Justin Pugh, QB Tommy DeVito - Activated, from Practice Squad (Standard Elevation)
OL Jalen Mayfield - Free Agent Signing from NYG Practice Squad
OLB Azeez Ojulari - Reserve/Injured <-- UGH!
OL Justin Pugh, QB Tommy DeVito - Activated, from Practice Squad (Standard Elevation)
OL Jalen Mayfield - Free Agent Signing from NYG Practice Squad
OLB Azeez Ojulari - Reserve/Injured <-- UGH!
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Well, using my metric from last year, at least I was entertained this game. I was expecting a blow out.
Asking ‘right off the couch’ Pugh to play LT is asking way too much. The defense played its butt off. TTaylor had the chance to the hero, instead he was the goat. Changing to a run at the end of 1st half was a really dumb call. That wasn’t on the coaches in my mind.
But, with all that, somehow, even with all the ref homecooking, they still had a chance to win on the final play.
Asking ‘right off the couch’ Pugh to play LT is asking way too much. The defense played its butt off. TTaylor had the chance to the hero, instead he was the goat. Changing to a run at the end of 1st half was a really dumb call. That wasn’t on the coaches in my mind.
But, with all that, somehow, even with all the ref homecooking, they still had a chance to win on the final play.
Yenrub
Footballguy
Tough loss last night. I agree it was entertaining and they did much better than I expected them to.
Wink and the defense did a great job confusing Josh Allen and making plays for the most part. The run defense still stinks when Dex isn’t on the field (despite the free agent signings)
Big shout out to “just off the couch” Justin Pugh.
I’m not sure what Tyrod was thinking at the end of the 1st half.
Tyrod did make some nice plays during the game, I liked that he was willing to take a couple of shots downfield. Slayton pulled in a couple deep balls.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
I think Collinsworth was probably right…(thst hurt me to type). Tyrod got his play and he was running it. He wast really thinking about time. He got a bad look and changed the play. He lost the plot and didn’t consider time when he was looking things over. total brain fart. Honestly, giants win that game if they just get 3 there.
They competed. It wasn’t always pretty, but they competed. And I agree, Pugh deserves major props. He tightened things down after a couple of bad plays.
They competed. It wasn’t always pretty, but they competed. And I agree, Pugh deserves major props. He tightened things down after a couple of bad plays.
Yenrub
Footballguy
The Giants have to sign Pugh to the 53 man roster now right?
No way he goes back to the practice squad
And ask him if he has a few brothers still on the couch who want to play
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Giants work out quarterbacks Matt Barkley, Ian Book
With starting quarterback Daniel Jones still dealing with a neck injury, the Giants worked out quarterbacks Matt Barkley and Ian Book.
www.nbcsports.com
Giants worked out two QB's...wonder what this says if anything about Jones return date.
What the Hell are the Giants doing ???
nypost.com
- Sending Pugh to the practice squad when he already proved to be the best most versatile Olineman the Giants currently have
- And what is going on with Thomas and Schmidtz????
- Jeezus ... Thomas played the entire game with a pulled hamstring and now 2 months later he is not even close to game ready ???
- And what happened to Shcmidtz !?!?! It's like he never existed ! Nobody even mentions him as if it was no big deal that he got injured. Like he was just one of the other injured dumpster dives.
Giants sign two reinforcements for battered offensive line — what it means for Justin Pugh
The Giants keep reuniting with offensive linemen.
nypost.com
Throwing in the towel on the season to position for the #1 pick next season?What the Hell are the Giants doing ???
- Sending Pugh to the practice squad when he already proved to be the best most versatile Olineman the Giants currently have
- And what is going on with Thomas and Schmidtz????
- And what happened to Shcmidtz !?!?! It's like he never existed ! Nobody even mentions him as if it was no big deal that he got injured. Like he was just one of the other injured dumpster dives.
Giants sign two reinforcements for battered offensive line — what it means for Justin Pugh
The Giants keep reuniting with offensive linemen.
I hope not but....maybe??
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Jameson Crowder won NFC special teams player of the week. Why we kept the likes of Lemieux/Peart over him....
Eric Gray as a return man:
4.7yds per punt
14.5yds per kickoff
Eric Gray as a return man:
4.7yds per punt
14.5yds per kickoff
RC94
Footballguy
IMO it would be the smart thing to do considering how they've played so far and who will potentially be available at 1.01. I know it's still a little early to throw in the towel, but we're not far away from mid-season and the trade deadline, and I don't see this team making such a complete change and suddenly becoming a playoff team. Let Thomas and any other injured players sit for as long as it takes to be 100%. That also lets them see what they have with some of the younger depth players for the future.Throwing in the towel on the season to position for the #1 pick next season?What the Hell are the Giants doing ???
- Sending Pugh to the practice squad when he already proved to be the best most versatile Olineman the Giants currently have
- And what is going on with Thomas and Schmidtz????
- And what happened to Shcmidtz !?!?! It's like he never existed ! Nobody even mentions him as if it was no big deal that he got injured. Like he was just one of the other injured dumpster dives.
Giants sign two reinforcements for battered offensive line — what it means for Justin Pugh
The Giants keep reuniting with offensive linemen.
I hope not but....maybe??
Its wild to me that Parris Campbell isn't the return man. He got 1 against Buffalo, hopefully that becomes the norm, because he's good at it, and Gray clearly isn't.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Is Taylor starting this weekend?
I am going to be honest, I have him on my bench and I am thinking of starting him as my QB2 this week if he does start. I don't think he looked bad Sunday.
I am going to be honest, I have him on my bench and I am thinking of starting him as my QB2 this week if he does start. I don't think he looked bad Sunday.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Early guess at #NYGiants offensive line for Sunday against one of the best defensive fronts in the league if Evan Neal does not play
LT Justin Pugh
LG Mark Glowinski
C Ben Bredeson
RG Marcus McKethan
RT Tyre Phillips
@art_stapleton
Early guess at #NYGiants offensive line for Sunday against one of the best defensive fronts in the league if Evan Neal does not play
LT Justin Pugh
LG Mark Glowinski
C Ben Bredeson
RG Marcus McKethan
RT Tyre Phillips
