2024-25 NBA Thread: Game 7!! (59 Viewers)

[Zow]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agreed. I'll root for the Arizona teams if my teams aren't in it, but it never once crossed my mind to switch my favorite teams just because I moved.

Wait until your kids ask you why daddy is cheering against the teams they cheer for.

I look forward to that day and will happily tell them.

They're going to strip you of your "World's Greatest Dad" T-shirt and break your coffee mug they got you too. Just letting you know in advance.

Then they get no money to buy apparel for their favorites teams haha.

 

[Desert_Power]

Where in Spain did you study?

Valladolid. We had part of a trip in Andalucia I remember a couple of Spaniards trying to convince me to stay up and watch some finals games. ****, that is hard enough on the East Coast.

 

[Gr00vus]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I figure you watch sports for entertainment. Chaining yourself to a franchise like the Browns no matter what is like hate watching crummy t.v. shows and movies, forcing yourself to finish reading a lousy book that you aren't enjoying, continuing to eat at a restaurant that has lousy food and bad service. Except its worse- it goes on for year after year. Like daisy said, life's too short, move on to something that's enjoyable.

You sound like somebody that grew up in the Cleveland area.....it SOMETIMES does get better for other franchises in sports. Just not the Browns, apparently.

Let's say you grew up rooting for the San Antonio Spurs. Bruh, your 80s, 90s, aughts and even early teens gave you plenty of hope and optimism, year in, year out. But then the doldrums hit Alamo City and there were some rough rough years. Well, given your analogy of a bad TV show, restaurant or book, you'd have abandoned ship! ENOUGH OF THIS, I CAN'T TAKE IT.

But what's this? A 7 foot 5 Inch French Wilt Chamberlain with better shooting touch arrives and WA LA! Hope is back, baby. But not for you, Gr00vus, you gave up early. You're now rooting for Dallas because you loved Luka. Whoops, Nico.

I think there's a spectrum, some point at which a given franchise just isn't worth giving attention to. The Spurs aren't anywhere near that point. Even before the Robinson/Duncan era, they had the Gervin years. Decent dry spell in between, but then you had Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Leonard and now they're over to Wemby and Fox. They put an entertaining show together often enough to stick through the tough years.

But the Browns? The Wizards? What are you hanging on to there to submit to decades of sludge? Jim Brown? Wes Unseld? Brian Sipe? That's a bridge too far.

And I say all this as a life long Chargers fan (also a life long Lakers fan). The Chargers have never won a Super Bowl, only been to one, and there have been some spells with really bad teams (most of the 90's which also somehow contained their one Super Bowl appearance, and through to when they got LaDanian). But they've had some very fun to watch (and ultimately heartbreaking) players and teams often enough to maintain fanship.

 

[msudaisy26]

Sounds like the Suns are listening to offers for Durant.

 

[Desert_Power]

Sounds like the Suns are listening to offers for Durant.

Western arms race time. I would like to see the Grizzlies mix it up.

 

[Moe.]

Presti needs to make this happen

 

[General Malaise]

The video of Michael Finley taking Luka's beer out of his hand is....something. Sorry if Honda.

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[Kanil]

The only time I've changed teams is if my city previously didn't have a team of that sport and then got one. Born and raised in Denver as a Broncos and Nuggets fan. Rooted for the Minnesota Twins and Northstars because my favorite uncle lived there and would take us to games whenever we visited. But the day the Avs and Rockies came to town, those teams may as well not exist.

Let's go Broncos, Nuggets, Avs, Rockies, CU Buffalos, CSU Rams, USAF Falcons, Mammoth, and Rapids!

I look down on people who don't root for teams from where they were born.

Edit: and to keep this NBA related. Luka plays out his contract in LA and then comes to play with his BFF Jokic!!!! You heard it here first!

 

[Deamon]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I figure you watch sports for entertainment. Chaining yourself to a franchise like the Browns no matter what is like hate watching crummy t.v. shows and movies, forcing yourself to finish reading a lousy book that you aren't enjoying, continuing to eat at a restaurant that has awful food and bad service. Except its worse- it goes on for year after year. Like daisy said, life's too short, move on to something that's enjoyable.

we would never get along.

I'd eat at that nasty restaurant as long as it took until they became Michelin starred.

 

[Deamon]

Man, Luka, AD, Fox, Jimmy, and KD all moved within a week would be just bonkers.

 

[Gr00vus]

The video of Michael Finley taking Luka's beer out of his hand is....something. Sorry if Honda.

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What the heck?!?! Did Finely lurk outside Luka's hotel room on the road and intercept all the incoming beers too?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

 

[General Malaise]

The video of Michael Finley taking Luka's beer out of his hand is....something. Sorry if Honda.

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What the heck?!?! Did Finely lurk outside Luka's hotel room on the road and intercept all the incoming beers too?

I don't know, but maybe Finley can start taking beers out of this fat guy's hands.

 

[dickey moe]

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

You forgot to mention Derek Harper.

Or Mark Aguirre FTM.

 

[Gr00vus]

The video of Michael Finley taking Luka's beer out of his hand is....something. Sorry if Honda.

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What the heck?!?! Did Finely lurk outside Luka's hotel room on the road and intercept all the incoming beers too?

I don't know, but maybe Finley can start taking beers out of this fat guy's hands.

It'll be a heck of a scene in the Lakers locker room after games with LeBron entering his cryogenic platelet replacement rejuvination chamber while Luka plops down with a six pack of pilsners.

 

[msudaisy26]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

 

[Moe.]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The problem is the conspiracy theories are by far the most compelling reasons I’ve seen so far. There is really no logical or rational explanation for the trade, so people’s minds are naturally gonna go nuts

 

[Yo Mama]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

 

[General Malaise]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

Since this seems to draw off inspiration from the film "Major League" there is just one thing for the remaining Mavs and coaches to do here......Win the whole F*##ing Thing!

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

I'm sure local fans like @Instinctive know more about this, but I read over the weekend that the guy in charge of the new ownership team (~70% ownership) - Patrick Dumont - married into the Adleson family about 15 years ago and was tabbed to run their Las Vegas Sands conglomerate. He's now COO of that company as well as being in charge of the Mavericks. Has a background in investment banking. I saw its now been reported that Dumont was the "ultimate decision maker" on the Doncic trade. None of this means much, but in my mind maybe lends something to the Vegas rumors and also gives an air of cold, bottom-line decision making to the team management, as opposed to Cuban being more of a people person who was in a way personally committed to the team and players.

 

[Sammy3469]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

This is one of the reasons why @General Malaise manifesto is a bit old-fashioned. A whole bunch of these owners are just out for themselves and really only care about the teams as money vehicle versus winning. I think you should be able to defer your fandom to a team under ownership duress. It's one thing if the owner is inept (Ishbia), but once they start leveraging the team for other personal financial gain to the detriment of the fans, you too should be able to open your fandom up.

 

[Yo Mama]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

This is one of the reasons why @General Malaise manifesto is a bit old-fashioned. A whole bunch of these owners are just out for themselves and really only care about the teams as money vehicle versus winning. I think you should be able to defer your fandom to a team under ownership duress. It's one thing if the owner is inept (Ishbia), but once they start leveraging the team for other personal financial gain to the detriment of the fans, you too should be able to open your fandom up.

Yep, that’s why I root for the underdog mom-and-pop shop Lakers, whose sole business ownership is the team.

 

[msudaisy26]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The problem is the conspiracy theories are by far the most compelling reasons I’ve seen so far. There is really no logical or rational explanation for the trade, so people’s minds are naturally gonna go nuts

I get the trade. The Mavs know Luka better than anyone feel like they could get max value now. I have a problem with the return and shopping around.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

This is one of the reasons why @General Malaise manifesto is a bit old-fashioned. A whole bunch of these owners are just out for themselves and really only care about the teams as money vehicle versus winning. I think you should be able to defer your fandom to a team under ownership duress. It's one thing if the owner is inept (Ishbia), but once they start leveraging the team for other personal financial gain to the detriment of the fans, you too should be able to open your fandom up.

Which is why I may be switching my allegiance to the SF Giants, having been a long time A's fan (I even worked at the Coliseum when I was in HS and freshman yr of college).

 

[msudaisy26]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

Seems waaay out there.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

Well, yes, it was Sunday morning radio. It was on the Dubs flagship station, possibly even a syndicated show from another Audacy station. But, the speculation may have some legs as hinted by others. I mean, no one saw this trade coming. Gotta follow the money.

 

[msudaisy26]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

 

[zoobird]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

I'm sure local fans like @Instinctive know more about this, but I read over the weekend that the guy in charge of the new ownership team (~70% ownership) - Patrick Dumont - married into the Adleson family about 15 years ago and was tabbed to run their Las Vegas Sands conglomerate. He's now COO of that company as well as being in charge of the Mavericks. Has a background in investment banking. I saw its now been reported that Dumont was the "ultimate decision maker" on the Doncic trade. None of this means much, but in my mind maybe lends something to the Vegas rumors and also gives an air of cold, bottom-line decision making to the team management, as opposed to Cuban being more of a people person who was in a way personally committed to the team and players.

I only heard this theory about twenty minutes ago, but I'm all in on it. Some thoughts:

1. My first instinct about the trade was that unless they win the championship this year, a large part of their existing fanbase is potentially gone for good...or at best, will be extremely hesitant to get excited about the team, even if they draft the next Michael Jordan (since they kind of did already, and just traded him away). The logic next step (which I posted about yesterday) is that this could ultimately lead to them having to move to another city. What didn't occur to me is that that might be the whole point of this.
2. While Sheldon Adelson is no longer alive...this is his family we're talking about. They were violently opposed to anything resembling online sports betting (including DFS) when they viewed it as preventable competition...and now are strong proponents, since they weren't able to prevent it from happening and they were able to position themselves to profit from it. I think they're ruthless opportunists, and this doesn't seem especially extreme for what they're capable of.

 

[Moe.]

It is insane that Texas is willing to watch all that casino money head to neighboring states

 

[General Malaise]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

This is one of the reasons why @General Malaise manifesto is a bit old-fashioned. A whole bunch of these owners are just out for themselves and really only care about the teams as money vehicle versus winning. I think you should be able to defer your fandom to a team under ownership duress. It's one thing if the owner is inept (Ishbia), but once they start leveraging the team for other personal financial gain to the detriment of the fans, you too should be able to open your fandom up.

OH YEAH WELL YOUR FACE IS OLD FASHIONED!

BOOM, ROAST3D!

 

[mr. furley]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

at this point i'm willing to believe any "X team to Las Vegas" rumors

they've got the NFL, NHL and MLB is coming in '28. they're just missing the NBA and i have to believe that the NBA is VERY invested in getting a team there sooner rather than later.

 

[General Malaise]

It is insane that Texas is willing to watch all that casino money head to neighboring states

The Baptist church is strong in Texas and they don't seem willing to budge here.

 

[Acrobat7]

Chandler Parsons said that Luka had just bought a new 15m house in Dallas a week ago. Safe to say that he didn’t know in advance.

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[Sammy3469]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

This is one of the reasons why @General Malaise manifesto is a bit old-fashioned. A whole bunch of these owners are just out for themselves and really only care about the teams as money vehicle versus winning. I think you should be able to defer your fandom to a team under ownership duress. It's one thing if the owner is inept (Ishbia), but once they start leveraging the team for other personal financial gain to the detriment of the fans, you too should be able to open your fandom up.

OH YEAH WELL YOUR FACE IS OLD FASHIONED!

BOOM, ROAST3D!

Just wait until Jody sells the Blazers, than we'll see who is ROAST3D! HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM BEANZZZZ!!!!111!1!!!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Chandler Parsons said that Luka had just bought a new 15m house in Dallas a week ago. Safe to say that he didn’t know in advance.

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Possibly. Current assessor records show 9119 Guernsey Ln. as his only owned parcel at the moment.

 

[General Malaise]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

at this point i'm willing to believe any "X team to Las Vegas" rumors

they've got the NFL, NHL and MLB is coming in '28. they're just missing the NBA and i have to believe that the NBA is VERY invested in getting a team there sooner rather than later.

Yeah, but wouldn't they go after weaker franchises with less fan support first? I would view Portland as a more likely target - ownership is supposed to sell the team per Paul Allen's will.

And isn't expansion on the horizon? I though I heard Seattle was going to get an expansion team. Maybe Vegas too?

Not that the NBA needs expansion. My god, this league is already festooned with unwatchable product.

 

[General Malaise]

Chandler Parsons said that Luka had just bought a new 15m house in Dallas a week ago. Safe to say that he didn’t know in advance.

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Possibly. Current assessor records show 9119 Guernsey Ln. as his only owned parcel at the moment.

Lol, my neighbors growing up used to live on Guernsey Lane. Pretty sure there are some cliffs near there where urban legends have a kid from every HS falling from at some point.

Cliffs are about as common in Dallas as playoff victories for the Cowboys this century.

 

[msudaisy26]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

at this point i'm willing to believe any "X team to Las Vegas" rumors

they've got the NFL, NHL and MLB is coming in '28. they're just missing the NBA and i have to believe that the NBA is VERY invested in getting a team there sooner rather than later.

Yeah, but wouldn't they go after weaker franchises with less fan support first? I would view Portland as a more likely target - ownership is supposed to sell the team per Paul Allen's will.

And isn't expansion on the horizon? I though I heard Seattle was going to get an expansion team. Maybe Vegas too?

Not that the NBA needs expansion. My god, this league is already festooned with unwatchable product.

I get Vegas getting a team, but I doubt the league wants to move teams. They want more teams.

 

[General Malaise]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

at this point i'm willing to believe any "X team to Las Vegas" rumors

they've got the NFL, NHL and MLB is coming in '28. they're just missing the NBA and i have to believe that the NBA is VERY invested in getting a team there sooner rather than later.

Yeah, but wouldn't they go after weaker franchises with less fan support first? I would view Portland as a more likely target - ownership is supposed to sell the team per Paul Allen's will.

And isn't expansion on the horizon? I though I heard Seattle was going to get an expansion team. Maybe Vegas too?

Not that the NBA needs expansion. My god, this league is already festooned with unwatchable product.

I get Vegas getting a team, but I doubt the league wants to move teams. They want more teams.

Right, that's why I suggested "expansion".

Not that I think that's a great idea - the product is already watered down - but I'm sure it's coming.

 

[General Malaise]

Heard on sports talk radio yesterday: Mavs' ownership trying to drive down interest by Dallas fans and market value so that they can move to Las Vegas.

That seems like a not very good sports talk show.

The conspiracy theory I’ve heard (and it’s all over the place, even Simmons mentioned it on one of his post-trade podcasts) is the the new Mavs owners (Sands casinos billionaires and political mega-donors) bought the teams to help as leverage to push legalized gambling in Texas with the ultimate goal of building a destination casino / resort / arena in the Dallas area.

Since that legalization push isn’t going well so far, they are going to use the threat of moving the team to Vegas (and build their resort / arena there) as leverage to change legislators minds. This threat only works if they don’t have the fan base and league superstar, so it’s easier for them to push for the move. The league would only ok this move if one of the upcoming expansion teams went to Dallas instead of Vegas.

I’m not saying this is real, but this is the big conspiracy theory out there.

This is one of the reasons why @General Malaise manifesto is a bit old-fashioned. A whole bunch of these owners are just out for themselves and really only care about the teams as money vehicle versus winning. I think you should be able to defer your fandom to a team under ownership duress. It's one thing if the owner is inept (Ishbia), but once they start leveraging the team for other personal financial gain to the detriment of the fans, you too should be able to open your fandom up.

OH YEAH WELL YOUR FACE IS OLD FASHIONED!

BOOM, ROAST3D!

Just wait until Jody sells the Blazers, than we'll see who is ROAST3D! HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM BEANZZZZ!!!!111!1!!!

Blazers are going to make the playoffs this year and Phil Knight is going to give sexual deviant Jody an offer she can't refuse. Bet.

 

[trader jake]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

So you're saying 7-8% of the world's population are fans of the Lakers?

 

[trader jake]

The video of Michael Finley taking Luka's beer out of his hand is....something. Sorry if Honda.

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What the heck?!?! Did Finely lurk outside Luka's hotel room on the road and intercept all the incoming beers too?

In a completely unrelated, non-conspiracy related tidbit:

Luka Doncic was 300 points behind Michael Finley on the Mavs all-time points list (12,089 - 12,389). Finley is the Mavs assistant GM.

 

[mr. furley]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

at this point i'm willing to believe any "X team to Las Vegas" rumors

they've got the NFL, NHL and MLB is coming in '28. they're just missing the NBA and i have to believe that the NBA is VERY invested in getting a team there sooner rather than later.

Yeah, but wouldn't they go after weaker franchises with less fan support first? I would view Portland as a more likely target - ownership is supposed to sell the team per Paul Allen's will.

And isn't expansion on the horizon? I though I heard Seattle was going to get an expansion team. Maybe Vegas too?

Not that the NBA needs expansion. My god, this league is already festooned with unwatchable product.

yeah, almost certainly but i wouldn't put it past almost any team save for the flagships

eta: not anymore

 

[mr. furley]

I guess I will start to believe the Mavs to Vegas rumors if they traded both Kyrie and AD before the trade deadline next season.

at this point i'm willing to believe any "X team to Las Vegas" rumors

they've got the NFL, NHL and MLB is coming in '28. they're just missing the NBA and i have to believe that the NBA is VERY invested in getting a team there sooner rather than later.

Yeah, but wouldn't they go after weaker franchises with less fan support first? I would view Portland as a more likely target - ownership is supposed to sell the team per Paul Allen's will.

And isn't expansion on the horizon? I though I heard Seattle was going to get an expansion team. Maybe Vegas too?

Not that the NBA needs expansion. My god, this league is already festooned with unwatchable product.

I get Vegas getting a team, but I doubt the league wants to move teams. They want more teams.

Right, that's why I suggested "expansion".

Not that I think that's a great idea - the product is already watered down - but I'm sure it's coming.

the answer is money

the question doesn't matter

 

[Gr00vus]

NBA is doing a heck of a job owning the headlines the week before the super bowl.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I am sure you guys have seen this, but it is just unreal -- Embiid has played in only 47% of eligible games for his entire career. That is insane.

I think it’s the other way around , he’s missed 47%, not played in. So he’s totally durable, **** off haters

 

[Frostillicus]

[Goldsberry] The Luka Dončić deal originally included multiple first-round picks, Dalton Knecht, and more, but was chiseled down after Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison that taking on Luka Dončić was a big risk due to his weight and injury history.

Goldsberry also says that Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison not to shop Luka Dončić and convince him that the Lakers were the only real suitor that could give the Mavericks the best player to “win-now” so he shouldn’t bother to negotiate with other teams.

 

[msudaisy26]

[Goldsberry] The Luka Dončić deal originally included multiple first-round picks, Dalton Knecht, and more, but was chiseled down after Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison that taking on Luka Dončić was a big risk due to his weight and injury history.

Goldsberry also says that Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison not to shop Luka Dončić and convince him that the Lakers were the only real suitor that could give the Mavericks the best player to “win-now” so he shouldn’t bother to negotiate with other teams.

Pelinka should win executive of the year.

 

[Capella]

[Goldsberry] The Luka Dončić deal originally included multiple first-round picks, Dalton Knecht, and more, but was chiseled down after Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison that taking on Luka Dončić was a big risk due to his weight and injury history.

Goldsberry also says that Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison not to shop Luka Dončić and convince him that the Lakers were the only real suitor that could give the Mavericks the best player to “win-now” so he shouldn’t bother to negotiate with other teams.

incredible

 

[Major]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

Yep. Moved from Houston to NYC for a solid 15 years and would never think of giving up on my homerism. I'd root on the New York teams if I was attending their games and wanted them to perform well because it made the city more interesting but never against my squads.

The one caveat is if your home team ends up moving which was the case for me (HOU to TENN). I wasn't that bitter and still rooted on the Titans until the core players like McNair, George, etc. left. Thankfully Houston soon got another team so it made that decision easier but not sure what the rule is for others.