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People everywhere, and definitely in this thread, were acting like he was a make a wish kid and he may end up being a rotational nba player after all. Incredible.

That poor kid, growing up like he did, getting drafted so late. He has overcome so much in his life. Can't wait for the movie.
You don’t have to hate him you know. You likely have no reason to. You can just let it go.

We can all like and dislike whatever players we want for whatever reason.

So you don't have to carry the torch for him because he is so disrespected and underprivileged.
Weirdo behavior. You keep mockingly mention how he’s underprivileged and disrespected like it’s his fault who his dad is. Hating somebody for that while he could be on the coast of some tropical country but instead he worked his way to possibly an NBA rotation is bizarre.

Same weird behavior when you come in here claiming he has arrived because he had one acceptable NBA game. He is only in because of who is dad is, not because what he has done.

There are quite a few sons of former NBA players that have played in the league and most (maybe all) got drafted on merit in college, signed as an undrafted free agent and worked their way into the league. If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college. Sorry if that rubs me the wrong way, but it would if he was a mailman, dentist, or police officer too.
I heard a stat (Duncd On, I think) that the only rookies drafted at Bronny's spot or later to have 17/5 their rookie year were (if I can remember the names) Ramon Sessions, Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Aaron Wiggins. That's one HOFer, one All-Star, two starter level players, and Aaron Wiggins who is turning out to be a valuable rotation player. Him having a good game certainly doesn't mean that he is going to be a rotation player for a decade like the other guys, but it does develop a baseline level of competence that 2nd rounders don't often show this early.

He's averaging 20/5/5/2 on .572 TS% (36.1% from three on 8 attempts per game) in the G-League. I think it is far to say at this point that he was an acceptable pick at 55 as he has the talent to at least be career AAA type player - there were a couple undrafted players that may have been better late picks (Justin Edwards and Trey Alexander were mostly expected to be drafted and weren't - Edwards is a legit NBA player today for Philly and Alexander has been bad for the Nuggets but fantastic in the G-League) but Bronny has shown at least as much as another ~10 players drafted in the second round.
Only a few players drafted at that level actually get minutes, so of course that list is pretty small.

Both sides of this are frustrating. The only reason Bronny is getting minutes at all is because of who he is. Having said that - he’s done a solid job given that context and he seems to belong just fine. It probably says more about how close together all the fringe players are than anything else. I think a lot of people we’ve never heard of who will never get a chance could do something similar to what Bronny is doing given the opportunity. Bronny is getting the opportunity because of his dad, and that’s fine. That’s how life works.
Ehh. At the end of the day, if your parent is an exceptional athlete, you're far more likely to turn out to be an NBA player than if not. If your parent was an NBA player, the odds are even better. Both?

This weird "only because he's LeBron's kid" take ignores the fact that a smart bettor, betting on all players drafted after like pick 40 over the last, say, five years, would have him very high on the list because of exactly those genes. When I was coaching, literally one for the boxes we looked for in HS players was "did either parent play professional basketball?" even if the parent was never around the kid (via death or baby daddy or whatever the case may be).

They aren't giving him extra G League or NBA opportunity because of LeBron per se. It's a HUGE business with jobs on the line for this kind of thing. If the guy wasn't showing promise, he'd get less time. And if some other guy at pick 50 was showing as much promise, he'd be getting more time too.

Both things can be true. He's doing well, especially for a late second, AND his genes suggest he's a good bet.
 
People everywhere, and definitely in this thread, were acting like he was a make a wish kid and he may end up being a rotational nba player after all. Incredible.

That poor kid, growing up like he did, getting drafted so late. He has overcome so much in his life. Can't wait for the movie.
You don’t have to hate him you know. You likely have no reason to. You can just let it go.

We can all like and dislike whatever players we want for whatever reason.

So you don't have to carry the torch for him because he is so disrespected and underprivileged.
Weirdo behavior. You keep mockingly mention how he’s underprivileged and disrespected like it’s his fault who his dad is. Hating somebody for that while he could be on the coast of some tropical country but instead he worked his way to possibly an NBA rotation is bizarre.

Same weird behavior when you come in here claiming he has arrived because he had one acceptable NBA game. He is only in because of who is dad is, not because what he has done.

There are quite a few sons of former NBA players that have played in the league and most (maybe all) got drafted on merit in college, signed as an undrafted free agent and worked their way into the league. If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college. Sorry if that rubs me the wrong way, but it would if he was a mailman, dentist, or police officer too.
I heard a stat (Duncd On, I think) that the only rookies drafted at Bronny's spot or later to have 17/5 their rookie year were (if I can remember the names) Ramon Sessions, Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Aaron Wiggins. That's one HOFer, one All-Star, two starter level players, and Aaron Wiggins who is turning out to be a valuable rotation player. Him having a good game certainly doesn't mean that he is going to be a rotation player for a decade like the other guys, but it does develop a baseline level of competence that 2nd rounders don't often show this early.

He's averaging 20/5/5/2 on .572 TS% (36.1% from three on 8 attempts per game) in the G-League. I think it is far to say at this point that he was an acceptable pick at 55 as he has the talent to at least be career AAA type player - there were a couple undrafted players that may have been better late picks (Justin Edwards and Trey Alexander were mostly expected to be drafted and weren't - Edwards is a legit NBA player today for Philly and Alexander has been bad for the Nuggets but fantastic in the G-League) but Bronny has shown at least as much as another ~10 players drafted in the second round.
Only a few players drafted at that level actually get minutes, so of course that list is pretty small.

Both sides of this are frustrating. The only reason Bronny is getting minutes at all is because of who he is. Having said that - he’s done a solid job given that context and he seems to belong just fine. It probably says more about how close together all the fringe players are than anything else. I think a lot of people we’ve never heard of who will never get a chance could do something similar to what Bronny is doing given the opportunity. Bronny is getting the opportunity because of his dad, and that’s fine. That’s how life works.
Ehh. At the end of the day, if your parent is an exceptional athlete, you're far more likely to turn out to be an NBA player than if not. If your parent was an NBA player, the odds are even better. Both?

This weird "only because he's LeBron's kid" take ignores the fact that a smart bettor, betting on all players drafted after like pick 40 over the last, say, five years, would have him very high on the list because of exactly those genes. When I was coaching, literally one for the boxes we looked for in HS players was "did either parent play professional basketball?" even if the parent was never around the kid (via death or baby daddy or whatever the case may be).

They aren't giving him extra G League or NBA opportunity because of LeBron per se. It's a HUGE business with jobs on the line for this kind of thing. If the guy wasn't showing promise, he'd get less time. And if some other guy at pick 50 was showing as much promise, he'd be getting more time too.

Both things can be true. He's doing well, especially for a late second, AND his genes suggest he's a good bet.
Exactly. I was worried about the potential circus, but I think the Lakers and JJ have handled things about as well as could be expected. They’ve played him in the G league the same way they have with all their other similar drafted players. He’s only playing garbage time in the big leagues and the only reason he played so much the other night was because almost the entire Lakers rotation was out.

They’ve got their three 10-day contract guys playing more meaningful minutes than Bronny because they deserve it. The only minutes he’s taking from anyone are from Cam Reddish, who will probably be released any day now.

His name got him the attention and opportunity, but his work and development have earned for him his current place - an end of bench player who mainly gets time in the G league.
 
so Bronny getting drafted by the Lakers is all a part of a play for his DNA and not at all due to the influence his dad wields in the organization. It’s a certainly a take.
 
People everywhere, and definitely in this thread, were acting like he was a make a wish kid and he may end up being a rotational nba player after all. Incredible.

That poor kid, growing up like he did, getting drafted so late. He has overcome so much in his life. Can't wait for the movie.
You don’t have to hate him you know. You likely have no reason to. You can just let it go.

We can all like and dislike whatever players we want for whatever reason.

So you don't have to carry the torch for him because he is so disrespected and underprivileged.
Weirdo behavior. You keep mockingly mention how he’s underprivileged and disrespected like it’s his fault who his dad is. Hating somebody for that while he could be on the coast of some tropical country but instead he worked his way to possibly an NBA rotation is bizarre.

Same weird behavior when you come in here claiming he has arrived because he had one acceptable NBA game. He is only in because of who is dad is, not because what he has done.

There are quite a few sons of former NBA players that have played in the league and most (maybe all) got drafted on merit in college, signed as an undrafted free agent and worked their way into the league. If Bronny had anyone else for a father he would still be riding the pine in college. Sorry if that rubs me the wrong way, but it would if he was a mailman, dentist, or police officer too.
I heard a stat (Duncd On, I think) that the only rookies drafted at Bronny's spot or later to have 17/5 their rookie year were (if I can remember the names) Ramon Sessions, Isaiah Thomas, Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Aaron Wiggins. That's one HOFer, one All-Star, two starter level players, and Aaron Wiggins who is turning out to be a valuable rotation player. Him having a good game certainly doesn't mean that he is going to be a rotation player for a decade like the other guys, but it does develop a baseline level of competence that 2nd rounders don't often show this early.

He's averaging 20/5/5/2 on .572 TS% (36.1% from three on 8 attempts per game) in the G-League. I think it is far to say at this point that he was an acceptable pick at 55 as he has the talent to at least be career AAA type player - there were a couple undrafted players that may have been better late picks (Justin Edwards and Trey Alexander were mostly expected to be drafted and weren't - Edwards is a legit NBA player today for Philly and Alexander has been bad for the Nuggets but fantastic in the G-League) but Bronny has shown at least as much as another ~10 players drafted in the second round.
Only a few players drafted at that level actually get minutes, so of course that list is pretty small.

Both sides of this are frustrating. The only reason Bronny is getting minutes at all is because of who he is. Having said that - he’s done a solid job given that context and he seems to belong just fine. It probably says more about how close together all the fringe players are than anything else. I think a lot of people we’ve never heard of who will never get a chance could do something similar to what Bronny is doing given the opportunity. Bronny is getting the opportunity because of his dad, and that’s fine. That’s how life works.
Ehh. At the end of the day, if your parent is an exceptional athlete, you're far more likely to turn out to be an NBA player than if not. If your parent was an NBA player, the odds are even better. Both?

This weird "only because he's LeBron's kid" take ignores the fact that a smart bettor, betting on all players drafted after like pick 40 over the last, say, five years, would have him very high on the list because of exactly those genes. When I was coaching, literally one for the boxes we looked for in HS players was "did either parent play professional basketball?" even if the parent was never around the kid (via death or baby daddy or whatever the case may be).

They aren't giving him extra G League or NBA opportunity because of LeBron per se. It's a HUGE business with jobs on the line for this kind of thing. If the guy wasn't showing promise, he'd get less time. And if some other guy at pick 50 was showing as much promise, he'd be getting more time too.

Both things can be true. He's doing well, especially for a late second, AND his genes suggest he's a good bet.
Exactly. I was worried about the potential circus, but I think the Lakers and JJ have handled things about as well as could be expected. They’ve played him in the G league the same way they have with all their other similar drafted players. He’s only playing garbage time in the big leagues and the only reason he played so much the other night was because almost the entire Lakers rotation was out.

They’ve got their three 10-day contract guys playing more meaningful minutes than Bronny because they deserve it. The only minutes he’s taking from anyone are from Cam Reddish, who will probably be released any day now.

His name got him the attention and opportunity, but his work and development have earned for him his current place - an end of bench player who mainly gets time in the G league.

We will have to agree to disagree. Scottie Pippen's kid took three years before he got meaningful minutes and he seems to be a decent player, Shaq's kid still isn't getting minutes, two of the Ball brothers play in the NBA and are good, the other never got a chance. I am sure there are a lot more. Bronny is only getting this chance right now because his dad is Lebron and he is currently on the Lakers.

I will say the Lakers have handled it very well and yes I would probably feel differently in Bronny spent the a whole season or two in the G league. Yes, he had one good game, but he is averaging 6 minutes a game, shooting horribly, and should be in the G league getting real minutes trying to make the roster.
 
Speaking of our Lakers, champion Dwight Howard is being induced into the Hall of Fame tonight of the most prestigious* organization*** in sports***.






*Arguably
**Professional basketball team
*** Located in Central Florida
 
Bronny is only getting this chance right now because his dad is Lebron and he is currently on the Lakers.
I would like to continue to remind people that Bronny was a 4-star recruit who went to one of the biggest athletic programs in the country and not a Make-a-Wish kid.
 
It's okay to say Bronny is where he is because of his bloodlines. If this were horse racing his pedigree would be bold, front and center and nobody in the sport would complain. It matters.

It's also okay to say Bronny has worked hard and deserves a chance to play professional basketball. Maybe we can just see how it plays out before forming a hot sports take on the kid?
 
@msudaisy26 - yes, Bronny is playing 6 minutes a game - in the 23 games he’s seen action (pretty much all garbage time). He’s played 0 minutes a game in 57 games where he was a DNP because he hasn’t earned real minutes yet.
 
Josh Giddey has been playing at an All -NBA level since the All-Star break--22/10/9, with 50% 3-pt and not atrocious defense.

He's looking for 30 million per year.
It would very Bulls like to give it to him. He is playing great, and his shot is falling, but it still looks ugly as hell. He's a restricted free agent in a year where there is like one team with cap space. Bulls should be able to play hardball with him
 
Bronny is only getting this chance right now because his dad is Lebron and he is currently on the Lakers.
I would like to continue to remind people that Bronny was a 4-star recruit who went to one of the biggest athletic programs in the country and not a Make-a-Wish kid.

Because a high school players ratingnhas never been manipulated by who they are related to, or what school they commit to and every four star basketball player has been a good pro.

Come on
 
Josh Giddey has been playing at an All -NBA level since the All-Star break--22/10/9, with 50% 3-pt and not atrocious defense.

He's looking for 30 million per year.
It would very Bulls like to give it to him. He is playing great, and his shot is falling, but it still looks ugly as hell. He's a restricted free agent in a year where there is like one team with cap space. Bulls should be able to play hardball with him

He looks like one of those really good stats on a bad team type of player, but not much help to a good team because his contract will be too much and he isn't one of the best three or four players on a really good team.
 
Good lord, do we need the playoffs in here.
In case you people missed it, this was a polite and subtle way to suggest that we PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BRONNY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, who brought this all up anyway.

:scared:

I don't remember if it was you or whoever, but I like it. Life would be really boring if we all agreed on everything and it was all cut and dry. I enjoy our conversations.
 
Good lord, do we need the playoffs in here.
In case you people missed it, this was a polite and subtle way to suggest that we PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BRONNY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, who brought this all up anyway.

:scared:

I don't remember if it was you or whoever, but I like it. Life would be really boring if we all agreed on everything and it was all cut and dry. I enjoy our conversations.
Stop encouraging his nonsense :wink:
 
Josh Giddey has been playing at an All-NBA level since the All-Star break--22/10/9, with 50% 3-pt and not atrocious defense.

He's looking for 30 million per year.

Matas Buzelis has a strong Tom Chambers vibe to his game.
Looking for 30? Last I heard he was looking for 17.

Updates notebook
 
Good lord, do we need the playoffs in here.
In case you people missed it, this was a polite and subtle way to suggest that we PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BRONNY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, who brought this all up anyway.

:scared:

I don't remember if it was you or whoever, but I like it. Life would be really boring if we all agreed on everything and it was all cut and dry. I enjoy our conversations.
Stop encouraging his nonsense :wink:
Yeah don’t get me started on how good Bryce James is looking at Sierra Canyon. Good thing the Lakers still have their 1st rounder in 2026.
 
Good lord, do we need the playoffs in here.
In case you people missed it, this was a polite and subtle way to suggest that we PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BRONNY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, who brought this all up anyway.

:scared:

I don't remember if it was you or whoever, but I like it. Life would be really boring if we all agreed on everything and it was all cut and dry. I enjoy our conversations.
Stop encouraging his nonsense :wink:
Yeah don’t get me started on how good Bryce James is looking at Sierra Canyon. Good thing the Lakers still have their 1st rounder in 2026.
Probably need to tank in order to get a high enough pick to grab him.
 
Good lord, do we need the playoffs in here.
In case you people missed it, this was a polite and subtle way to suggest that we PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BRONNY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, who brought this all up anyway.

:scared:

I don't remember if it was you or whoever, but I like it. Life would be really boring if we all agreed on everything and it was all cut and dry. I enjoy our conversations.
Stop encouraging his nonsense :wink:
Yeah don’t get me started on how good Bryce James is looking at Sierra Canyon. Good thing the Lakers still have their 1st rounder in 2026.
Probably need to tank in order to get a high enough pick to grab him.

Or the Lakers can just announce that no one can draft him again!
 
so Bronny getting drafted by the Lakers is all a part of a play for his DNA and not at all due to the influence his dad wields in the organization. It’s a certainly a take.
It can be both.

If LeBron retired last year, one of two things would have happened:

1. He'd have been drafted in the second round still
2. He'd have gone back to school and get drafted in the second round this year or maybe improve his stock.

Because LeBron is on a specific team, they forced him to that team.
 
It's okay to say Bronny is where he is because of his bloodlines. If this were horse racing his pedigree would be bold, front and center and nobody in the sport would complain. It matters.

It's also okay to say Bronny has worked hard and deserves a chance to play professional basketball. Maybe we can just see how it plays out before forming a hot sports take on the kid?
I feel like this is pretty much what everyone is saying and was the only point I was trying to make, but I also think I’ve lost track of the convo.
 
Josh Giddey has been playing at an All-NBA level since the All-Star break--22/10/9, with 50% 3-pt and not atrocious defense.

He's looking for 30 million per year.

Matas Buzelis has a strong Tom Chambers vibe to his game.
Bulls have been so fun to watch with their youth Gone are the awful of Derozan iso-ball (Hooray!). Lavine played good this season (good enough to get off his contract) but Coby is absolutely more than capable of replicating his production.

i think Giddey returns to Bulls but the Nets could make it more interesting with an offer. Love Buzelis's game. Bulls got a blue chipper with him
 
Gents, this Baylor Scheierman kid is not too shabby. He's getting his chance as Boston sits a couple key guys every night and he's producing on both ends.

He had a nice highlight in the first half with a steal and behind the back dime. He's had a couple of 15-20 pt games in the last month and is playing aggressive and confident. Over his last 6 games he is shooting 50/46/100.

The rich get richer!
 
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Gents, this Baylor Scheierman kid is not too shabby. He's getting his chance as Boston sits a couple key guys every night and he's producing on both ends.

He had a nice highlight in the first half with a steal and behind the back dime. He's had a couple of 15-20 pt games in the last month and is playing aggressive and confident. Over his last 6 games he is shooting 50/46/100.

The rich get richer!
And then the clumsy oaf, Sabonis jumps under Tatum on a 3 and rolls his ankle. He was writhing in pain quite a bit. He shot the flagrant FT after a TO, but came out immediately and went to the locker room. Finished with 25/8/7 in 26 minutes.
 
Down goes Tatum. Rolled his ankle landing on a made three when the defender stepped in his landing area. Made the free throw and then went to locker room. Had a good game going 25-7-8.
 
Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Flagg coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!
 
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Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Kupp coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!

Bulls started Coby White, Giddey, Huerter, Buzelis, Vucevic.
 
Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Kupp coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!
Must be nice to have NBA money to rely on when the NFL money dries up.
Seattle doesn’t even have an NBA franchise any more.
It took me an hour to realize what the heck you guys were talking about.

If you've met 1 Cooper, you've met them all.
 
Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Kupp coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!
Must be nice to have NBA money to rely on when the NFL money dries up.
Seattle doesn’t even have an NBA franchise any more.
It took me an hour to realize what the heck you guys were talking about.

If you've met 1 Cooper, you've met them all.

I'm still in the dark
 
Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Kupp coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!
Must be nice to have NBA money to rely on when the NFL money dries up.
Seattle doesn’t even have an NBA franchise any more.
It took me an hour to realize what the heck you guys were talking about.

If you've met 1 Cooper, you've met them all.

I'm still in the dark
Cooper Flagg just signed with the Seahawks. Try to keep up.
 
Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Kupp coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!
Must be nice to have NBA money to rely on when the NFL money dries up.
Seattle doesn’t even have an NBA franchise any more.
It took me an hour to realize what the heck you guys were talking about.

If you've met 1 Cooper, you've met them all.

I'm still in the dark
My original post referenced Cooper Kupp (NFL player now with the Seahawks) instead of the intended Cooper Flagg (Duke player and presumptive #1 pick and future NBA star).
 
Celtics with 5 "whites" on the floor at one time. (One being Derrick White, but close enough)

Only one of the Caucasians is a Euro, too. With Cooper Kupp coming on next year, the white American NBA player is making a comeback!
Must be nice to have NBA money to rely on when the NFL money dries up.
Seattle doesn’t even have an NBA franchise any more.
It took me an hour to realize what the heck you guys were talking about.

If you've met 1 Cooper, you've met them all.

I'm still in the dark
My original post referenced Cooper Kupp (NFL player now with the Seahawks) instead of the intended Cooper Flagg (Duke player and presumptive #1 pick and future NBA star).

Please be less dumb next time.

As in, more smarter

;)
 
Celtics appear to have dodged a bullet. Tatum left the arena last night without crutches or a walking boot with only a slight limp. He says it’s just sore but they will be cautious not to rush him back. Boston has nothing to play for the last 10 games. Mazzulla said he won’t be out long.
 

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