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2024 New York Football Giants (hello darkness my old friend) (1 Viewer)

Laughable and predictable.

A) Mara - "I saw improvement at the end, we are moving in the right direction." keeps both Schoen and Daboll. ☑️
B) Schoen gives up next years first + to move up in the draft to take a QB. Schoen "Lock played pretty well down the stretch, the team really rallied around him let's bridge him at oh $10mm"
C) Giants go 4-13 next year.
 
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Laughable and predictable.

A) Mara - "I saw improvement at the end, we are moving in the right direction." keeps both Schoen and Daboll.
B) Schoen gives up next years first + to move up in the draft to take a QB. Schoen "Lock played pretty well down the stretch, the team really rallied around him let's bridge him at oh $10mm"
C) Giants go 4-13 next year.
This cannot and will not happen. Losing Barkley to our biggest rival and watching him put up an MVP year alone is reason enough to clean house and start over.
 
Guess you guys dont want to draft a qb
Nope. Clearly, the plan is to bring back Daniel Jones as a free agent now that he has learned how to play QB under Kevin O’Connell.

Looks like the Eagles won't be playing any starters next week, and may be forced to use their 3rd string QB. Giants might get that 4th win and drop all the way to 8 or 9 in the draft.
Well the 2nd and 3rd string QBs both look better than the 1st string QB so that doesnt help much
 
Laughable and predictable.

A) Mara - "I saw improvement at the end, we are moving in the right direction." keeps both Schoen and Daboll.
B) Schoen gives up next years first + to move up in the draft to take a QB. Schoen "Lock played pretty well down the stretch, the team really rallied around him let's bridge him at oh $10mm"
C) Giants go 4-13 next year.
B) and C) are pretty much locks
I see them trading up to get a QB ... after blowing the 1st pick
Listening to Daboll on the Radio Postgame you would have thought the Giants had finally figured it out and just won the Superbowl.
"This is the way it's supposed to look when we execute"

If that is the case ... His fat *** should be fired for waiting 2 years to execute!!!!!!!!
 
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I just posted this in the Sam Darnold thread. Why not make a play for JJ McCarthy? That kid can play and he would do well as a starter. The kid is a winner and would make us respectable again.
 
I just posted this in the Sam Darnold thread. Why not make a play for JJ McCarthy? That kid can play and he would do well as a starter. The kid is a winner and would make us respectable again.
NAHHHH I can't believe Minny would give up on JJ after a 1-year performance by Sam. Keep in mind Darnold will ask for a sizable contract and I'm sure MInny wants that 4 year period of the QB making peanuts.
 
Justin Fields
Then wait for Kyle McCord
Whether it's later in this draft
Or next year if he plays another year
 
Barkley apparently will not break the rushing record against The Giants
NFL Network reporting Barkley will sit this week
 
Barkley apparently will not break the rushing record against The Giants
NFL Network reporting Barkley will sit this week
Great ... Another disgusting Giants victory
Does it matter?
If they draft first or tenth Schoen will screw it up anyway

Might save you from drafting one of these bust QBs.
I've been touting Kyle McCord from Syracuse
He may stay another year,if he does wait for him
If he declares you can get him later in the draft
Not a fan of Ward or Sanders
I could be wrong,but we all have an opinion
 
Barkley apparently will not break the rushing record against The Giants
NFL Network reporting Barkley will sit this week
Great ... Another disgusting Giants victory
Does it matter?
If they draft first or tenth Schoen will screw it up anyway

Might save you from drafting one of these bust QBs.
I've been touting Kyle McCord from Syracuse
He may stay another year,if he does wait for him
If he declares you can get him later in the draft
Not a fan of Ward or Sanders
I could be wrong,but we all have an opinion
I agree, prefer Carter, Graham or Johnson rather than giving up draft capital to move up for Ward or Sanders.
 
Mr. Mara
Please turn "Black Monday" into "Celebration Monday"
And clean out the front office
Start with Mr. Schoen and work your down
As a New Year of hope for Giants fans
Or sell the team to Steve Cohen
I'll take either option
Thank you
 
Ryan Dunleavy -

"#Giants 2025 home schedule is set.

After going 1-8 at home this year, visits from: Cowboys, Eagles, Commanders, Chiefs, Chargers, Packers, Vikings, 49ers

6 playoff teams in 2024 and 2 other perennial playoff teams. As hard as it gets."


Road games - Dallas, PHI, Wash, Denver, Vegas, Detroit, Chicago, 4th place NFCS, 4th place AFCE
******

Please don't trade next year's 1st.
 
Ryan Dunleavy -

"#Giants 2025 home schedule is set.

After going 1-8 at home this year, visits from: Cowboys, Eagles, Commanders, Chiefs, Chargers, Packers, Vikings, 49ers

6 playoff teams in 2024 and 2 other perennial playoff teams. As hard as it gets."


Road games - Dallas, PHI, Wash, Denver, Vegas, Detroit, Chicago, 4th place NFCS, 4th place AFCE
******

Please don't trade next year's 1st.
I have a very bad feeling about this
 
What are y'all's thoughts on giving up the 4th pick for JJ McCarthy? Saw Dane Bruegler say he'd have McCarthy over Cam Ward and Sanders.
 
What are y'all's thoughts on giving up the 4th pick for JJ McCarthy? Saw Dane Bruegler say he'd have McCarthy over Cam Ward and Sanders.
No
Not a first
Maybe a second
Prefer a third
Why would the Vikes do that? It’s not like he’s Josh Rosen.
Why would The Giants offer a first for a player who's never taken a snap in a regular season game and is coming off of a major injury?
Oh wait...it's Joe Schoen
 
We will net the 3rd overall pick if Pats win. Travis, Sanders, and Cam is what folks are predicting. Any of those players makes us better, so I’m going to be optimistic.
 
I jinxed us. Nabers scored to make it 17-10 and now we have the ball at Philly 38. Please don’t blow a top 3 pick by winning.
 
We will net the 3rd overall pick if Pats win. Travis, Sanders, and Cam is what folks are predicting. Any of those players makes us better, so I’m going to be optimistic.
I don't think Sanders or Ward are worth that high a draft capital
I'd bolster the offensive line
then target Kyle McCord later
 
So the game's been over for 4 hours
Daboll and Schoen haven't been fired yet?

Shefter just reported Daboll and Schoen are returning.
Thanks,you made my frickin' Monday

John Mara -

"Now that our season is over, we felt it necessary to make this statement. Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll will continue in their respective roles with the organization.

As disappointing as the results of the season have been, Steve (Tisch) and I remain confident in the process that Joe and Brian have implemented and their vision for our team.

We look forward to the future and achieving the results we all desire."

:thumbdown:
 
So the game's been over for 4 hours
Daboll and Schoen haven't been fired yet?

Shefter just reported Daboll and Schoen are returning.
Winning is a distant 2nd to making/keeping money

Well, to play devils advocate. It's obvious, the Giants ownership/FO know that they need a QB to get back to relevancy and the releasing of Jones shows they knew he wasn't the answer at QB. Hard Knocks had them trying to move up last year. Once they get a potential young starting QB in the building, then you can evaluate those guys,
 
Mara wants stability more than anything, even if it means having the worst team in the league. The NYG have been a very stable and consistently terrible team so Mara is happy.

It's become very hard to root for this team. If they draft Sanders I'm done. This is supposed to be fun and this has not been fun.
 
So the game's been over for 4 hours
Daboll and Schoen haven't been fired yet?

Shefter just reported Daboll and Schoen are returning.
Winning is a distant 2nd to making/keeping money

Well, to play devils advocate. It's obvious, the Giants ownership/FO know that they need a QB to get back to relevancy and the releasing of Jones shows they knew he wasn't the answer at QB. Hard Knocks had them trying to move up last year. Once they get a potential young starting QB in the building, then you can evaluate those guys,
I don't agree with any of this. Jones was still young when they took over and they said they would develop him. Schoen even doubled down on that when he gave him that stupid contract. Then he trippled down on it by passing up on McCarthy, Nix and Penix last year, all of whom are better prospects than this year's QBs. Making things worse, Schoen has given away some of the best players on the team for nothing and replaced them with worse players. Schoen likes to point to the fact that a bunch of rookies are starting this year, but that was mostly by default because there's nobody else.

Even if we give Daboll the benefit of the doubt about Jones and blame Schoen entirely for keeping him, giving him that contract, and not drafting a QB at all in their time with the NYG, Daboll has still failed to develop anyone. He's responsible for more than just the QB. Nabers came ready to go and the other best players were either inherited (Thomas and Lawrence) or obtained via free agency or trade (Okereke and Burns).

Keeping these 2 shows that Mara just doesn't care about winning or the fans. He only cares about money and doing as little as possible while making that money. Mara is a total clown.
 
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So the game's been over for 4 hours
Daboll and Schoen haven't been fired yet?

Shefter just reported Daboll and Schoen are returning.
Winning is a distant 2nd to making/keeping money

Well, to play devils advocate. It's obvious, the Giants ownership/FO know that they need a QB to get back to relevancy and the releasing of Jones shows they knew he wasn't the answer at QB. Hard Knocks had them trying to move up last year. Once they get a potential young starting QB in the building, then you can evaluate those guys,
You mean like Russell Wilson or Bo Nix?

Instead of Drew Lock and Tommy Cutlets?
 
So outside of QB what positions do you think the Giants need to address the most?
My top 2 are CB and DT to team with Dex.
 
So outside of QB what positions do you think the Giants need to address the most?
My top 2 are CB and DT to team with Dex.
Best corner in the draft
Travis Hunter
And he's one the best wide receivers in the draft
Take him at #3
Get a quarterback who's at least as good as Ward or Sanders later
 
So outside of QB what positions do you think the Giants need to address the most?
My top 2 are CB and DT to team with Dex.
Best corner in the draft
Travis Hunter
And he's one the best wide receivers in the draft
Take him at #3
Get a quarterback who's at least as good as Ward or Sanders later
I dont think Hunter will be there ... Giants always miss their target by 1 pick
 
So outside of QB what positions do you think the Giants need to address the most?
My top 2 are CB and DT to team with Dex.
Best corner in the draft
Travis Hunter
And he's one the best wide receivers in the draft
Take him at #3
Get a quarterback who's at least as good as Ward or Sanders later
I dont think Hunter will be there ... Giants always miss their target by 1 pick
Titans and Browns ahead of Giants
Given the news on Watson I think they both go qb and Hunter is there
 
When Mara says he's running out of patience, that pretty much means there won't be a deliberate rebuilding process and instead a need to win now. I can see them going after Cousins, but IMO that will only get them to 8 or so wins. This team has too many holes to fill to tell the GM and HC that they have to win now. It's going to be like the Saints now - overpay for aging players with the hope that they can make the playoffs but it never works. IMO it's very clear where the main problems with this franchise start - the owner. He's one of the worst in the league.
 
Spineless owner hires clueless GM who brings deer in the headlights coach with him
Another year of Schoen's analytics letting All-Pro caliber players walk because of their "regression" number
Another year of players playing for a coaching staff they have no faith in
Another year of "regression" for the franchise
Instead of starting a rebuild we get another year of the same crap we went through this year
How far back will that set the franchise?
Thanks John,Wellington would be sleepless,apparantley you aren't
 

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