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2025 Detroit Lions: Game 1 Lions vs Packers. (38 Viewers)

I'd like to give Ben another QB to work with that would be an upgrade as the #2. Here's a free agent listing in order of 2022 salary.

I think Aaron Rodgers would make a nice backup QB.
Rodgers and Goff can talk about the California Golden Bears.

there are no palpable options for GB besides another year of Rodgers

cut him - $99M dead cap hit
retires - $40M dead cap hit

(they could spread the latter over two years if they sign a new contract)

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That reality aside, would love to see Goff picking up the tab at Arby’s for his newly impoverished backup. “You gave up red meat? ****, my bad. Next time we’ll get Chick-fil-A.”
 
Those two were probably not jobs he actually wanted. Good to get the experience of going through the interview process.

Carolina would have been a hard one to turn down. He was a walk QB at UNC, went to high school in Asheville. He might actually want to work for Tepper down the road. Better to not interview at all and cause any residual harm.

Average OC makes $1M a year with a low of around $200K. MCDC is in the bottom third salary wise, so it’s within reason Ben could have increased his salary 10x or more. But I think he kind of knows he’s not quite ready to be a HC.

Plus he genuinely loves the Lions culture. I watch his last presser every week & he’s said multiple times “it’s great when you love to come to work - that doesn’t always happen.”
Sure but he could have made it clear before the Panthers interview that he was leaning staying in Detroit. Carolina might have still wanted to interview him, get to know him and try to woo him maybe. We will never know all the inner-workings behind it, I am just so excited he is back.
 
Lucky for the Lions, this draft seems to be really strong at CB. I would not have an issue if they spent both 1st round picks on CB or ofcourse some combo of 1st and 2nds. . Kelee Ringo, Joey Porter Jr, Christian Gonzalez, Cam Smith, Devon Witherspoon, Antonio Johnson. Lots of options to improve the secondary.
 
The top assistants whom I would least like to lose:

1. Ben Johnson
2. Mark Brunell
3. Hank Fraley
4. Duce Staley

I am not sure I would be upset over losing any of the guys on defense. The defensive line showed up most of the season. But for the LB and secondary, the play and schemes were ineffective. I think the Lions defensive coordinator job would be an attractive position for any of the top defensive minds.
 
Lucky for the Lions, this draft seems to be really strong at CB. I would not have an issue if they spent both 1st round picks on CB or ofcourse some combo of 1st and 2nds. . Kelee Ringo, Joey Porter Jr, Christian Gonzalez, Cam Smith, Devon Witherspoon, Antonio Johnson. Lots of options to improve the secondary.
I would think CB and DL would be good choices in the first. But depends on who Holmes loves and who he thinks will be available later. With the number of high picks they have Holmes can trade up, trade back or stay put. I chuckle when I read pundits having us choose Mayer the TE in the first. They do not know the bad juju we have with first round TEs. Plus, we still need to see what we have in Mitchell.

I do not believe Holmes values the LB and TE positions and those positions if desired will be filled later. I believe Lions need an upgrade at RB and will look at FA or draft to get a good player.
 
Lucky for the Lions, this draft seems to be really strong at CB. I would not have an issue if they spent both 1st round picks on CB or ofcourse some combo of 1st and 2nds. . Kelee Ringo, Joey Porter Jr, Christian Gonzalez, Cam Smith, Devon Witherspoon, Antonio Johnson. Lots of options to improve the secondary.
I would think CB and DL would be good choices in the first. But depends on who Holmes loves and who he thinks will be available later. With the number of high picks they have Holmes can trade up, trade back or stay put. I chuckle when I read pundits having us choose Mayer the TE in the first. They do not know the bad juju we have with first round TEs. Plus, we still need to see what we have in Mitchell.

I do not believe Holmes values the LB and TE positions and those positions if desired will be filled later. I believe Lions need an upgrade at RB and will look at FA or draft to get a good player.
Totally agree on TE and LB. No way they take Mayer in the first. As for CB, Holmes has to be careful waiting IMO. It's early and I am just starting to look but I think we see CBs go early and fast. This class has some really good CBS and many of them are the rare combo of long and athletic. Plus there is the recency bias of Sauce and Woolen reminding teams of how big an impact a rookie CB can make. Finally, I think as more and more front offices use analytics, they become hip to the data that shows coverage has slightly more impact than pass rush. Even if a team isn't big on data, they can look to Belichick who has valued CB over Edge for several years.
 
TE and LB are devalued positions and a good GM will draft accordingly. CB and DL are both marquee positions, and I'm not sure that the data can totally bear out that coverage has more impact. I think PFF asserts that, and there is other corroborating data, but in reality it seems to be that the only thing one can claim with certainty is a chicken-and-egg type thing.

It's awfully hard to isolate causation in football.

USA Today had a nice summation of the debate with an emphasis on coverage being the thing to concentrate on here

 
TE and LB are devalued positions and a good GM will draft accordingly. CB and DL are both marquee positions, and I'm not sure that the data can totally bear out that coverage has more impact. I think PFF asserts that, and there is other corroborating data, but in reality it seems to be that the only thing one can claim with certainty is a chicken-and-egg type thing.

It's awfully hard to isolate causation in football.

USA Today had a nice summation of the debate with an emphasis on coverage being the thing to concentrate on here


this is interesting - I think I’ll back Sam Monson here. probably my favorite YT analyst no one knows.

this is why I’m thinking while DT at 6 and CB at is my dream start - I like Breese, it’s a cliff [****ing autocorrect] from he + Carter to the next DT - I’m warming up to CB-CB. the rankings will shake out once we have numbers, they’re all bunched up rn.

we have an unlimited number of paths in this draft. Devon Witherspoon (Illinois) might be the best cover guy and he’s outside most analysts Top 5.

the Lions base defense rn is 4-2-5; they spent more time in that than any other personnel - we opened a lot of games playing nickel on first down.

their second most frequent defense is 4-1-6. we need to draft 2-3 DBs and maybe even double down in FA. that’s been a Holmes trait the first two years - don’t get one guy to cover a need, find 3. you’re gonna need it and every December you’ll be glad you built that depth.

IOL - big need, thin class. not sure how we’ll solve this.

you won’t find (I don’t think) any Lions fans mocking Mayer (Notre Dame); we have zero interest in replacing Hock’s draft capital. we were not a better team with him (full stop, 1-6 with, 8-2 without.)

but Brevyn Spann-Ford (Minnesota) in-line blocker TE who caught 7 balls? oh hell yes.
 
this is interesting - I think I’ll back Sam Monson here. probably my favorite YT analyst no one knows.

Oh, I know Sam. He works for PFF, I think. Or at least he's on a bunch of their shows. He lets the Jets have it when they've messed up. He didn't like the Becton or Mims picks. He didn't like how we'd constructed our OL one year even with all the resources we threw at it. Said it surprised him coming from Joe Douglas and all. I was highly skeptical of Sam's claim, but he wound up, even after retracting what he said, being correct. Becton has been a bust so far and there were safer picks in the draft.

So yeah, Sam Monson. Most assuredly. Though NYRAGE will tell you a bit about PFF and Sam if you give him the chance. Heh. Doesn't care for him nor the outfit.
 
this is interesting - I think I’ll back Sam Monson here. probably my favorite YT analyst no one knows.

Oh, I know Sam. He works for PFF, I think. Or at least he's on a bunch of their shows. He lets the Jets have it when they've messed up. He didn't like the Becton or Mims picks. He didn't like how we'd constructed our OL one year even with all the resources we threw at it. Said it surprised him coming from Joe Douglas and all. I was highly skeptical of Sam's claim, but he wound up, even after retracting what he said, being correct. Becton has been a bust so far and there were safer picks in the draft.

So yeah, Sam Monson. Most assuredly. Though NYRAGE will tell you a bit about PFF and Sam if you give him the chance. Heh. Doesn't care for him nor the outfit.

I get that at r/DetroitLions a lot. Lengthy diatribes on why PFF’s whole grading system is a sham.

Love the interplay between Steve Palazzolo & Monson. I’m not a big enough fan bois to know how many times they’re on together each week but it’s on the regular (in the run up to draft season I think Palazzolo drops out & they bring in PFF’s draft specialists often.)

At first I was like “wait this guy was the Randy Johnson of the minor leagues - what’s he know about football? (Palazzolo was an 8 year pro, 6’10” pitcher…think zero MLB appearances.) But WTH, I listen to data guys who never played past Pop Warner. Two informed Cincinnati guys are orders of magnitude better than the typical fluff analysis you see on any networks.
 
Were it not for reddit I might never see such things...

ESPN + - Best NFL rookie classes for 2022: Ranking teams with most production

(archive edition as it's behind a paywall)
  1. Seahawks
  2. New Jersey Jets
    (these seem indisputable to me, big time stars on both sides of the ball)
  3. Chiefs
  4. Titans
  5. Texans
  6. Jagwires
  7. Lions
Kerby Joseph won NFC Defensive Player of the Week (Week 9), he , Hutchinson, and James Houston IV each won a defensive rookie of the week, and Hutch won Defensive Rookie of the Month for both November and December. Rodriguez chipped in 15 solid starts. The previous record for sacks by a rookie class was 19.0 (1999 Tennessee Titans); the Lions 2022 rookies set a new NFL record with 20.5.

But hey that Tennessee punter is amazing and Houston had six rookies starting at year end lol. But seriously all these teams had a good rookie class and on the offensive side Jamo + Mitchell had minimal contributions. I mean, I guess that's why they didn't rank Detroit higher.
 
Were it not for reddit I might never see such things...

ESPN + - Best NFL rookie classes for 2022: Ranking teams with most production

(archive edition as it's behind a paywall)
  1. Seahawks
  2. New Jersey Jets
    (these seem indisputable to me, big time stars on both sides of the ball)
  3. Chiefs
  4. Titans
  5. Texans
  6. Jagwires
  7. Lions
Kerby Joseph won NFC Defensive Player of the Week (Week 9), he , Hutchinson, and James Houston IV each won a defensive rookie of the week, and Hutch won Defensive Rookie of the Month for both November and December. Rodriguez chipped in 15 solid starts. The previous record for sacks by a rookie class was 19.0 (1999 Tennessee Titans); the Lions 2022 rookies set a new NFL record with 20.5.

But hey that Tennessee punter is amazing and Houston had six rookies starting at year end lol. But seriously all these teams had a good rookie class and on the offensive side Jamo + Mitchell had minimal contributions. I mean, I guess that's why they didn't rank Detroit higher.
Rookie classes should never be judged before three seasons have passed.
 
Ben Johnson’s elite connected play calling

might be a Honda, I know first watched Josh McCown break this down 5-6 weeks ago - Underdog re-uploaded it yesterday just to highlight how next level our OC is in setting up the defense for a play he’ll call later

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Ian Rapoport reporting Johnson will return on an enhanced contract that features a large raise.

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When NFL owners approved the 2022 schedule last April, they instigated a new scheduling format for international games. Every team is supposed to play overseas at least once every 8 years. Their last international game was 2015, sane as the Bills - who are already scheduled to play in London. Thus the Lions are the most likely of the Chiefs home opponents to be selected to play in Germany. Cool thing for ARSB & his German mom (he and Equanimeous speak German at home growing up.)

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2022 attendance increased 23.1%, the largest jump by a good margin. They sold an average of 63,400 compared to 51,500 a year ago. Jax (10.82%) and WAS (10.15%) were next highest. Only five teams drew less fans, with CHI (-1.66%) and GB (-2.32%) seeing the steepest declines.
 
Were it not for reddit I might never see such things...

ESPN + - Best NFL rookie classes for 2022: Ranking teams with most production

(archive edition as it's behind a paywall)
  1. Seahawks
  2. New Jersey Jets
    (these seem indisputable to me, big time stars on both sides of the ball)
  3. Chiefs
  4. Titans
  5. Texans
  6. Jagwires
  7. Lions
Kerby Joseph won NFC Defensive Player of the Week (Week 9), he , Hutchinson, and James Houston IV each won a defensive rookie of the week, and Hutch won Defensive Rookie of the Month for both November and December. Rodriguez chipped in 15 solid starts. The previous record for sacks by a rookie class was 19.0 (1999 Tennessee Titans); the Lions 2022 rookies set a new NFL record with 20.5.

But hey that Tennessee punter is amazing and Houston had six rookies starting at year end lol. But seriously all these teams had a good rookie class and on the offensive side Jamo + Mitchell had minimal contributions. I mean, I guess that's why they didn't rank Detroit higher.
Rookie classes should never be judged before three seasons have passed.
The teams are certainly judging them after one year. Most players won’t get a third year of playing time unless they are performing or were 1st round picks. I think we can start judging them now. We don’t know for sure, but we get an idea for which way arrows are pointed, who the likely stars are and who is danger of being a total bust.
 
Were it not for reddit I might never see such things...

ESPN + - Best NFL rookie classes for 2022: Ranking teams with most production

(archive edition as it's behind a paywall)
  1. Seahawks
  2. New Jersey Jets
    (these seem indisputable to me, big time stars on both sides of the ball)
  3. Chiefs
  4. Titans
  5. Texans
  6. Jagwires
  7. Lions
Kerby Joseph won NFC Defensive Player of the Week (Week 9), he , Hutchinson, and James Houston IV each won a defensive rookie of the week, and Hutch won Defensive Rookie of the Month for both November and December. Rodriguez chipped in 15 solid starts. The previous record for sacks by a rookie class was 19.0 (1999 Tennessee Titans); the Lions 2022 rookies set a new NFL record with 20.5.

But hey that Tennessee punter is amazing and Houston had six rookies starting at year end lol. But seriously all these teams had a good rookie class and on the offensive side Jamo + Mitchell had minimal contributions. I mean, I guess that's why they didn't rank Detroit higher.
Rookie classes should never be judged before three seasons have passed.
Well, yes and no. Players like Amon-Ra, Kirby Joseph, Pennei Sewell, and even Adain Hutchinson, James Houston, Malcolm Rodriguez you have a pretty good sample of their potential. Even the handful of Jamo sightings give you a pretty warm feeling that he is that special. We already know these Lions draft classes are special, especially this year's. I would be shocked if looking 10 years back that this year's class were not in the top 2 or 3 in terms of career production.
 
I'd like to give Ben another QB to work with that would be an upgrade as the #2. Here's a free agent listing in order of 2022 salary.

I heard some of the talking heads on SiriusXM Fantasy station talking how Brady would be a perfect fit for the Lions, strong O-line to protect him. Intriguing for a super bowl push with the experience Brady has but I would think this would mess with what has and is being built for moving forward.

Def not a good fit for Detroit, too disruptive. But why would it be a good fit for him? Detroit is not on the cusp. Haven’t won the division since 1993, haven’t won a playoff game since 1991, never been to the SB. I would think he’d want to be on a very talented team that was close. We’re not close. We had a good ten game stretch, full stop.

Super young team with a great culture. Why would we want a QB older than most of the guys dad? lol

Terrible pick and won't happen. The Lions are looking for a backup, not a guy expecting to start this year. Which is why I expect the backup to come in the draft, likely round 2 or 3. But it really depends how the draft goes. If they were super excited about a prospect, pick 18 is still a remote possibility. If there is a sleeper they really love, it could be round 5.Th
This is exactly how I feel. They should look for upside at the backup position. Also, IIRC, Goff has been fairly durable throughout his career. There was that one Rams year where he got hurt late (though that may also have been a function of McVay souring on him) and then his first year in Detroit, but beyond that I don't think he's missed a ton of starts
 
I don’t think Johnson would have got any of these jobs but to not even travel and interview because he wants to stay is absolutely great

Even if Ben was not planning to take a position, I would have thought the experience of the interview process would be beneficial to his future. Just to flat out say no is a pretty awesome statement about the Lions organization. Contrast that with Harbaugh who states he is committed to bringing a national championship to Michigan, but shows interest in multiple NFL jobs.

I have loved the job Sheila has done since taking over. She is not only the best owner the Lions have ever had, she is one of the top owners in the NFL. Every move she has made had been spot on.
I'm glad that Ben decided to stay, and I agree that Harbaugh has made himself look a bit ridiculous over the past couple years, but in general I have no problem with coaches exploring options and looking out for their own best interests. Imagine if it were your spouse or your kid or your best friend asking you whether they should interview for a job that would represent a significant promotion and boost in salary. Would you really tell them to turn it down out of loyalty to an organization that could (and likely would) fire them in an instant if things go badly?

Ben is betting on himself and on the Lions, and I hope it works out for both of them, but I'm old enough to remember when Teryl Austin was going to be the Next Big Thing. The NFL is a fickle beast.
 
I didn't realize until I looked him up that he was still Pittsburgh's DC. I guess he's done OK for himself, but still, no one's talking about him as a HC candidate anymore. Then again, being a Tomlin assistant is the HC Dead Zone, so I guess he knew what he was getting into
 
I didn't realize until I looked him up that he was still Pittsburgh's DC. I guess he's done OK for himself, but still, no one's talking about him as a HC candidate anymore. Th.en again, being a Tomlin assistant is the HC Dead Zone, so I guess he knew what he was getting into
Ultimately, nothing wrong with a long NFL DC career.
Someone pointed this out to me a few years ago: Whenever an OC gets hired for a head coaching role, it's the hotshot young guy a la McVay or Shanny. Whenever it's a DC, it's the grizzled old guy like Zimmer or Fangio (Staley is the exception that proves the rule). There was some reasoning behind it, like it takes longer to work your way up the coaching depth chart on the defensive side. So maybe Austin will get his shot in 15 years or so. Probably with the Texans after they've gone through 14 other one-and-done Black coaches. :lol:
 
Daniel Jeremiah of NFL network has the Lions getting CB Devon Witherspoon at #6 and LB Trenton Simpson at #18. At least someone quit mocking them QBs and TEs.
Don’t hate it, don’t love it. I think to take an off the ball LB at 18, he should be a top tier prospect. What I’ve read about Simpson has me wondering if he’s worth the sacrifice at positional value. I still think I would rather a CB or even a S there.

I think the move at 6 is trade back because this CB group is so strong but I’m also totally
open to Paris Johnson, Peter Skronski or Broderick Jones.I think all 3 have incredible traits but might find the transition to OG easier. That would bolster the strength of the team and give Detroit one of the most talented OLs in recent NFL memory. They would provide flexibility in case Sewell or Decker get hurt. Finally, in a couple years when the team may need to move on from Decker, the Lions can transition them to tackle.
 
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Cincinnati o line coach and OC also deserve a little credit for what they did yesterday to protect Burrow with 3 guys out. Weather may have been a factor but both d lines had to deal with it and Cincinnati did it better.

The two backup guards were taken in the 2nd and 4th round a year ago. Dudes played a total of 10 snaps in the regular season, was awesome to see how they stepped in and played well.

Lions have to keep investing in the OLine; we’ll almost certainly lose C/G Evan Brown and Big V will be a cap cut. Need to address through the draft IMO.
 
Daniel Jeremiah of NFL network has the Lions getting CB Devon Witherspoon at #6 and LB Trenton Simpson at #18. At least someone quit mocking them QBs and TEs.
A grown man with the name of "Bucky" Brooks just came out with this mock: #6 - DT Bryan Bressee (Clemson), #18 CB Christian Gonzalez (Oregon).
 
At this point mock drafts are nothing but random number generators. There will be camps, interviews, medical checks, signings....many dozen of moving parts each of which will change the outlook of the draft.
 
When NFL owners approved the 2022 schedule last April, they instigated a new scheduling format for international games. Every team is supposed to play overseas at least once every 8 years. Their last international game was 2015, sane as the Bills - who are already scheduled to play in London. Thus the Lions are the most likely of the Chiefs home opponents to be selected to play in Germany. Cool thing for ARSB & his German mom (he and Equanimeous speak German at home growing up.)
Which, if I recall correctly, was against the Chiefs
 
When NFL owners approved the 2022 schedule last April, they instigated a new scheduling format for international games. Every team is supposed to play overseas at least once every 8 years. Their last international game was 2015, sane as the Bills - who are already scheduled to play in London. Thus the Lions are the most likely of the Chiefs home opponents to be selected to play in Germany. Cool thing for ARSB & his German mom (he and Equanimeous speak German at home growing up.)
Which, if I recall correctly, was against the Chiefs

I was there. It was a massacre. At least they won the year before against the Falcons
 
When NFL owners approved the 2022 schedule last April, they instigated a new scheduling format for international games. Every team is supposed to play overseas at least once every 8 years. Their last international game was 2015, sane as the Bills - who are already scheduled to play in London. Thus the Lions are the most likely of the Chiefs home opponents to be selected to play in Germany. Cool thing for ARSB & his German mom (he and Equanimeous speak German at home growing up.)
Which, if I recall correctly, was against the Chiefs

I was there. It was a massacre. At least they won the year before against the Falcons
Yeah, I think that was the game that led Caldwell to fire Lombardi and promote Cooter. Or maybe it happened right before the game. In any event, they totally turned around their season after that loss
 
When NFL owners approved the 2022 schedule last April, they instigated a new scheduling format for international games. Every team is supposed to play overseas at least once every 8 years. Their last international game was 2015, sane as the Bills - who are already scheduled to play in London. Thus the Lions are the most likely of the Chiefs home opponents to be selected to play in Germany. Cool thing for ARSB & his German mom (he and Equanimeous speak German at home growing up.)
Which, if I recall correctly, was against the Chiefs

I was there. It was a massacre. At least they won the year before against the Falcons
Yeah, I think that was the game that led Caldwell to fire Lombardi and promote Cooter. Or maybe it happened right before the game. In any event, they totally turned around their season after that loss

Caldwell fired Lombardi + 2 other offensive assistants before the London disaster. That worked out reasonably well, as JBC turned Stafford into a better game manager by simplifying the playbook and emphasizing short passes over hero ball.

Upon returning from England, Martha Firestone Ford fired team president Tom Lewand and general manager Martin Mayhew. While it was undeniably a good idea to rid the team of the Millen acolytes, she had absolutely NO PLAN. Literally threw her hands up & called NFL HQ asking for guidance. Which led us to the consulting brilliance of Ernie Acorsi and the path that led to Bob Quinn.

Acorsi rendered similar ineptitude to the Panthers (Gettleman), the Bears (Pace), the Giants (Gettleman again), and the Cardinals (Kingsbury.) Find a dysfunctional NFC franchise & chances are Acorsi had a hand in wrecking it.
 
When NFL owners approved the 2022 schedule last April, they instigated a new scheduling format for international games. Every team is supposed to play overseas at least once every 8 years. Their last international game was 2015, sane as the Bills - who are already scheduled to play in London. Thus the Lions are the most likely of the Chiefs home opponents to be selected to play in Germany. Cool thing for ARSB & his German mom (he and Equanimeous speak German at home growing up.)
Which, if I recall correctly, was against the Chiefs

I was there. It was a massacre. At least they won the year before against the Falcons
Yeah, I think that was the game that led Caldwell to fire Lombardi and promote Cooter. Or maybe it happened right before the game. In any event, they totally turned around their season after that loss

Caldwell fired Lombardi + 2 other offensive assistants before the London disaster. That worked out reasonably well, as JBC turned Stafford into a better game manager by simplifying the playbook and emphasizing short passes over hero ball.

Upon returning from England, Martha Firestone Ford fired team president Tom Lewand and general manager Martin Mayhew. While it was undeniably a good idea to rid the team of the Millen acolytes, she had absolutely NO PLAN. Literally threw her hands up & called NFL HQ asking for guidance. Which led us to the consulting brilliance of Ernie Acorsi and the path that led to Bob Quinn.

Acorsi rendered similar ineptitude to the Panthers (Gettleman), the Bears (Pace), the Giants (Gettleman again), and the Cardinals (Kingsbury.) Find a dysfunctional NFC franchise & chances are Acorsi had a hand in wrecking it.

Thank God that Sheila came along.
 
An Eagles' Win Would Likely Send Sewell, ARSB, and Goff to the Pro Bowl

Penei Sewell was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles RT Lane Johnson's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Amon-Ra St. Brown was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles WR AJ Brown's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Goff is a **third** alternate, but will also (most likely) be going to the pro bowl in Jalen Hurts' place with an Eagles win and SB appearance. How? Because the two alternates who were voted ahead of him - Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers (wut?) - never accept pro bowl invites anymore.
 
An Eagles' Win Would Likely Send Sewell, ARSB, and Goff to the Pro Bowl

Penei Sewell was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles RT Lane Johnson's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Amon-Ra St. Brown was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles WR AJ Brown's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Goff is a **third** alternate, but will also (most likely) be going to the pro bowl in Jalen Hurts' place with an Eagles win and SB appearance. How? Because the two alternates who were voted ahead of him - Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers (wut?) - never accept pro bowl invites anymore.
I wonder how players feel about this. Would they be “awesome I made the Pro Bowl” or “ugh a pointless work thing that I was the back up to the back up option for”?
 
An Eagles' Win Would Likely Send Sewell, ARSB, and Goff to the Pro Bowl

Penei Sewell was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles RT Lane Johnson's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Amon-Ra St. Brown was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles WR AJ Brown's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Goff is a **third** alternate, but will also (most likely) be going to the pro bowl in Jalen Hurts' place with an Eagles win and SB appearance. How? Because the two alternates who were voted ahead of him - Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers (wut?) - never accept pro bowl invites anymore.
I wonder how players feel about this. Would they be “awesome I made the Pro Bowl” or “ugh a pointless work thing that I was the back up to the back up option for”?
I think I know which ARSB would say
 

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