2025 Detroit Lions: Game 1 Lions vs Packers. (39 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

An Eagles' Win Would Likely Send Sewell, ARSB, and Goff to the Pro Bowl

Penei Sewell was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles RT Lane Johnson's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Amon-Ra St. Brown was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles WR AJ Brown's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Goff is a **third** alternate, but will also (most likely) be going to the pro bowl in Jalen Hurts' place with an Eagles win and SB appearance. How? Because the two alternates who were voted ahead of him - Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers (wut?) - never accept pro bowl invites anymore.

I wonder how players feel about this. Would they be “awesome I made the Pro Bowl” or “ugh a pointless work thing that I was the back up to the back up option for”?

Huge honor for ARSB & Penei, second year guys trying to establish themselves. The former is back in California working out with his brothers & dad, no days off. The latter is busy with his newborn son but I’m sure it means a lot for him.

Who knows about Jared. Would probably turn up, it’s his third time but first in four years. Good year statistically from a standard stats perspective - top 3 to top 8 in most categories, 5th in QBR (behind only Hurts amongst NFC players.) Think he’s getting married sometime soon - got engaged last summer - but probably feels great to receive the recognition.

 

[Ilov80s]

An Eagles' Win Would Likely Send Sewell, ARSB, and Goff to the Pro Bowl

Penei Sewell was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles RT Lane Johnson's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Amon-Ra St. Brown was voted a first alternate to the pro bowl, and will go to the pro bowl in Eagles WR AJ Brown's place with an Eagles' win and SB appearance.

Goff is a **third** alternate, but will also (most likely) be going to the pro bowl in Jalen Hurts' place with an Eagles win and SB appearance. How? Because the two alternates who were voted ahead of him - Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers (wut?) - never accept pro bowl invites anymore.

I wonder how players feel about this. Would they be “awesome I made the Pro Bowl” or “ugh a pointless work thing that I was the back up to the back up option for”?

I think I know which ARSB would say

Yeah he’s pissed he was an alternate I’m sure. More names to add to his list.

 

[Bozeman Bruiser]

I wonder how players feel about this. Would they be “awesome I made the Pro Bowl” or “ugh a pointless work thing that I was the back up to the back up option for”?

In the present it probably feels a little more like the latter. In the future though I am sure they will appreciate it.

"Amon Ra St Brown, 8x Pro-Bowl, 2x All-Pro, Super Bowl champ and MVP, first ballot Hall of Famer" has a much better ring to it than "Amon Ra St Brown, 7x Pro-Bowl, 2x All-Pro, Super Bowl champ and MVP, first ballot Hall of Famer".

 

[formerfourdigit]

Tracy Walker (III) seems to be progressing well from his Achilles surgery based on his Twitter. Will be awesome if he's good to go for TC next summer.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Detroit Lions reportedly hiring Arizona Cardinals' Steve Heiden as TEs coach

Spoiler

The Detroit Lions will have a new tight ends coach in 2023.

The Lions are hiring former Arizona Cardinals assistant Steve Heiden to coach tight ends, ESPN reported Monday.

Heiden's addition is one of several changes expected to the Lions' assistant coaching ranks. Heiden spent the past 10 seasons with the Cardinals, including the past four as tight ends coach.

He played 11 NFL seasons at tight end (1999-2009) with the San Diego Chargers and Cleveland Browns and was taken 10 picks before Lions coach Dan Campbell, another ex-NFL tight end, in the 1999 NFL draft. He started his coaching career at Concordia University in 2012, joining the Cardinals as assistant special teams/assistant tight ends coach a year later.

Heiden replaces Tanner Engstrand, who served as tight ends coach/pass game coordinator last season. Engstrand's role for 2023 is not immediately clear.

The Lions set a franchise record with 12 receiving touchdowns by tight ends this season, despite trading top tight end T.J. Hockenson to the Minnesota Vikings at the trade deadline. Brock Wright and Shane Zylstra had four touchdowns each, Hockenson had three in seven games before his trade, and rookie fifth-round pick James Mitchell had one.

The Lions, coming off a 9-8 season, could return all three of their coordinators for 2023.

Offensive coordinator Ben Johnson will return for a second season as play caller after interviewing for head coaching vacancies with the Carolina Panthers, Houston Texans and Indianapolis Colts. Special teams coordinator Dave Fipp is expected back for a third season in that role. And defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn remains on staff for now after interviewing with the Cardinals and Colts. Glenn is one of the top candidates for the Arizona job, NFL Network reported.

The Lions have at least one other opening after firing defensive backs coach Aubrey Pleasant at midseason.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Early Cornerback rankings - PFF

Really enjoyable & informative show but runs an hour so let me break it into segments:

• 5a - Kelle Ringo, Georgia (3:45)
• 5b - Deonte Banks, Maryland (13:20)
• 4 - Cam Smith, South Carolina (19:00)
• 3 - Joey Porter Jr, Penn State (27:10)
  
  
• 2 - Christian Gonzalez, Oregon (36:05)
• 1 - Devon Witherspoon, Illinois (42:50)
  
  
• Just missed the cut - Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State, Garret Williams, Syracuse (51:55)

Obviously this will change after the Senior Bowl + the NFL Combine. I'm enjoying getting to know these Corners, this is a really deep class and I'm excited the Lions will be drafting one or two of them.

 

[BobbyLayne]

@davebirkett


Lions QB Jared Goff headed to the Pro Bowl as an alternate. Joins Matthew Stafford as the only Lions QBs since Greg Landry to go.


12:03 PM · Jan 31, 2023

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Up to four Pro Bowlers now: Ragnow, Sewell, ARSB, Goff. Plus Raymond got second team All Pro. I know, I know, NBD, nobody cares. But we've shut up (deservedly) so many times in the last 5 years it's really nice to see the recognition.

edit: this is the first time since 1971 the Lions have had 4 (or more) Pro Bowlers

 

[Chaka]

I know, I know, NBD, nobody cares.

What do you mean?

How could you not be electrified at the prospect of watching a skills competition with the elite AFC Pro Bowl QB duo of Derek Carr & Tyler Huntley???

That's appointment television right there. I'm.busting out my betamax to record it just in case my TiVo breaks down.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I know, I know, NBD, nobody cares.

What do you mean?

How could you not be electrified at the prospect of watching a skills competition with the elite AFC Pro Bowl QB duo of Derek Carr & Tyler Huntley???

That's appointment television right there. I'm.busting out my betamax to record it just in case my TiVo breaks down.

I’m pretty sure the last Pro Bowl I watched featured an AFC starting running back tandem of Franco Harris & O.J. Simpson. Big fan of both when I was a little kid.

Every North American team sport all star game is farcical, that aspect isn’t unique to the Pro Bowl. It’s mostly about fan experience geared towards children: slam dunk contest, home run derby, skills competition.

Sustainable interest is inextricably linked to families having shared generational ties. We root for the teams because our fathers and grandfathers did (though in my case my mom was the sports nut; dad played quarterback in h.s. but was a casual forever.)

My mom loved all sports. I once got spanked (#truestory ) bc I forgot to wake her from a nap in time to see the beginning of an ALCS game. My uncle, a lifelong mentor, was a tortured Lions fanatic. He took me to my first games at Tiger Stadium and the Silverdome. One of the biggest thrills of my life was meeting Lem Barney (he was a patient being fitted for contact lenses.)

Anyway…lots of people became for different reasons I’m sure. There is certainly no shortage of degenerates who just want some action. But the familial ties and growing the game by making it fun for kids are a pretty solid reason to keep Pro Bowl (or any ASG contest) going.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Lions Assistant head coach/RBs coach Duce Staley is leaving to join Frank Reich's Carolina Panthers staff.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Engstrand's role for 2023 is not immediately clear.

Justin Rogers confirmed today Tanner Engstrand is still slotted to be the Passing Gane coordinator.

Two open positions atm - DBs and RBs assistant coaches.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Lions Assistant head coach/RBs coach Duce Staley is leaving to join Frank Reich's Carolina Panthers staff.

The Duce is loose.

Somehow I don't think D'Andre Swift is crying about this tonight.

 

[jon_mx]

Lions Assistant head coach/RBs coach Duce Staley is leaving to join Frank Reich's Carolina Panthers staff.

The Duce is loose.

Somehow I don't think D'Andre Swift is crying about this tonight.

I agree. Those two are complete opposites personalities. Swift is very talented, but needs someone more laid back to relate to. Swift was going backwards and this gives him new life.

 

[Foosball God]

I don't think Swift is going to ever be great, but losing Duce is way better than Johnson, Fraley, or even Glenn.

 

[BobbyLayne]

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Detroit is making another addition to the coaching staff, and I think you guys are going to love this one. Former Lions Pro Bowler Dre' Bly will be coaching the cornerbacks.

 

[Chaka]

or even Glenn.

Glenn just had a second interview with the Colts.

 

[nysfl2]

Lions Assistant head coach/RBs coach Duce Staley is leaving to join Frank Reich's Carolina Panthers staff.

The Duce is loose.

Somehow I don't think D'Andre Swift is crying about this tonight.

I agree. Those two are complete opposites personalities. Swift is very talented, but needs someone more laid back to relate to. Swift was going backwards and this gives him new life.

I think having Duce as a coach will

Lions Assistant head coach/RBs coach Duce Staley is leaving to join Frank Reich's Carolina Panthers staff.

The Duce is loose.

Somehow I don't think D'Andre Swift is crying about this tonight.

I agree. Those two are complete opposites personalities. Swift is very talented, but needs someone more laid back to relate to. Swift was going backwards and this gives him new life.

I think Swift will be happy to have a different coach, but I'm not sure it will make him a better RB. He makes some bad choices when picking a lane to go upfield.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

or even Glenn.

Glenn just had a second interview with the Colts.

For his sake, I hope he doesn't get it.

On the other hand, if I were up for a job against a guy who got hired with no experience, did a terrible job as interim, and still managed to beat me out for the full-time gig, I'm not sure I could ever recover from that ego blow

 

[BobbyLayne]

St Brown Brothers w/ guest DJ Chark - DJ Chark trash talk w/ Amon-Ra St. Brown, Dan Campbell vs Urban Meyer, Jameson Williams 4.19 40 time

Spoiler: timestamps

0:00 - Intro 0:30 - 1st Super Bowl Memory 1:10 - Favorite away stadium 1:55 - Favorite artist 2:28 - Hardest hit Chark has felt 3:18 - Favorite movie 3:46 - Favorite player growing up 5:33 - Best LSU players 6:22 - Baby Shark nickname 7:24 - Amon-Ra 1st Pro Bowl 10:40 - Chark's mindset going into free agency 13:33 - Hard Knocks had coaches acting different 15:00 - Why Lions training camp is different 16:47 - EQ and DJ played each other in college 18:53 - Jamo vs DJ in a race 19:35 - Lions offensive gameplan 21:40 - USC vs ND in the NFL 24:00 - Chark's lessons learned from playing with 8 QBs in 5 years 28:02 - What it's like playing for Dan Campbell & Ben Johnson 30:53 - The real Urban Meyer experience 36:42 - Arian Foster says the NFL is scripted 38:40 - DJ and Amon-Ra trash talk 44:03 - Outro

 

[Chaka]

or even Glenn.

Glenn just had a second interview with the Colts.

For his sake, I hope he doesn't get it.

On the other hand, if I were up for a job against a guy who got hired with no experience, did a terrible job as interim, and still managed to beat me out for the full-time gig, I'm not sure I could ever recover from that ego blow

He also has a second interview with the Cardinals.

 

[nysfl2]

I struggle to see how a GM is going to sell an Aaron Glenn hire to the fans - "This guy oversaw the worse defense in the NFL the last two years, so he's the perfect choice to lead us to glory!!!"

I mean, I think he's actually a really good coach and has head coach-leadership qualities, but it seems like a really tough sell to a new fan base.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't know how it would work moneywise with ARSB and Penei needing new contracts in a year or 2 but if Tee Higgins is available for pick 6, I think the Lions have to deeply consider that. He would perfectly pair with ARSB and Jamo. With those weapons, I think Goff could absolutely play at a Pro Bowl level and a win a SB.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I don't know how it would work moneywise with ARSB and Penei needing new contracts in a year or 2 but if Tee Higgins is available for pick 6, I think the Lions have to deeply consider that. He would perfectly pair with ARSB and Jamo. With those weapons, I think Goff could absolutely play at a Pro Bowl level and a win a SB.

I’m kind of hoping there is 1-2 QBs left at 6 and we can swing a trade with ATL for 8/44 or CAR for 8/39. Gives them Levis or Richardson and we stick with Bresee/Gonzales or even go B2B with say Witherspoon/Porter at 8/9 + 18.

Higgins would be an amazing addition but we’re probably looking at 5/$100m to lock him up. Would rather fill up the gaping holes on defense.

ETA: if he falls (& presuming we don’t resign Chark), Quentin Johnston at 1.18 would be a much cheaper solution for the X WR. Might have to move up 2-3 spots though.

 

[Moonlight]

I don't know how it would work moneywise with ARSB and Penei needing new contracts in a year or 2 but if Tee Higgins is available for pick 6, I think the Lions have to deeply consider that. He would perfectly pair with ARSB and Jamo. With those weapons, I think Goff could absolutely play at a Pro Bowl level and a win a SB.

I’m kind of hoping there is 1-2 QBs left at 6 and we can swing a trade with ATL for 8/44 or CAR for 8/39. Gives them Levis or Richardson and we stick with Bresee/Gonzales or even go B2B with say Witherspoon/Porter at 8/9 + 18.

Higgins would be an amazing addition but we’re probably looking at 5/$100m to lock him up. Would rather fill up the gaping holes on defense.

ETA: if he falls (& presuming we don’t resign Chark), Quentin Johnston at 1.18 would be a much cheaper solution for the X WR. Might have to move up 2-3 spots though.

I favor this outcome as well. It would be a blessing if we could trade down with ATL or Carolina. For many years prior to Holmes we have desired a trade down but there was no interest; it would be a further sign that the Lions' luck and future have changed if we can trade down with a QB hungry team. There will be plenty of good defensive players available at the ATL or Carolina pick.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't know how it would work moneywise with ARSB and Penei needing new contracts in a year or 2 but if Tee Higgins is available for pick 6, I think the Lions have to deeply consider that. He would perfectly pair with ARSB and Jamo. With those weapons, I think Goff could absolutely play at a Pro Bowl level and a win a SB.

I’m kind of hoping there is 1-2 QBs left at 6 and we can swing a trade with ATL for 8/44 or CAR for 8/39. Gives them Levis or Richardson and we stick with Bresee/Gonzales or even go B2B with say Witherspoon/Porter at 8/9 + 18.

Higgins would be an amazing addition but we’re probably looking at 5/$100m to lock him up. Would rather fill up the gaping holes on defense.

ETA: if he falls (& presuming we don’t resign Chark), Quentin Johnston at 1.18 would be a much cheaper solution for the X WR. Might have to move up 2-3 spots though.

I absolutely am in favor of trading back. Not sure we are going to be fortunate enough for that to work out but let’s cross our fingers. Early opinions seems to be there are 3 potential franchise QBs and 2 elite defensive prospects which could leave Detroit picking from the start of a whole new tier which is never ideal.

As for Johnston, I’m not a big fan and wouldn’t be happy with him at 18. WR isn’t a huge need and I would only put that kind of investment into one that we know is a stud like Higgins.

 

[Chaka]

Tee Higgins is under contract for 2023.

 

[TartanLion]

We just need to either re-sign Chark or get a FA equivalent and maybe draft a new prospect in the middle to late rounds. I don’t feel we really need to do much with the WR room. Higgins is of course a great player but given we are pretty good there, I don’t think it would be a good way of spending our assets. He’s better than how much he would our O better, if that makes sense.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Lions have hired Scottie Montgomery (Colts) as their new Assistant HC & RBs coach

 

[Da Guru]

I don't know how it would work moneywise with ARSB and Penei needing new contracts in a year or 2 but if Tee Higgins is available for pick 6, I think the Lions have to deeply consider that. He would perfectly pair with ARSB and Jamo. With those weapons, I think Goff could absolutely play at a Pro Bowl level and a win a SB.

They both have two years left plus a 5th year option. So there is plenty of time

I would trade 6 for Higgins. Big physical target, Lions could get back with a run of the mill TE with those 3 WRs

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't know how it would work moneywise with ARSB and Penei needing new contracts in a year or 2 but if Tee Higgins is available for pick 6, I think the Lions have to deeply consider that. He would perfectly pair with ARSB and Jamo. With those weapons, I think Goff could absolutely play at a Pro Bowl level and a win a SB.

They both have two years left plus a 5th year option. So there is plenty of time

I would trade 6 for Higgins. Big physical target, Lions could get back with a run of the mill TE with those 3 WRs

Amon Ra doesn’t have a 5th year optio. It is probably best to resign stars before they enter their final season.

 

[jon_mx]

It is possible the best draft prospect falls to the Lions for the third year in a row. The best scenerio is Jalen Carter is somehow still there as teams go QB and Edge.

 

[jon_mx]

We just need to either re-sign Chark or get a FA equivalent and maybe draft a new prospect in the middle to late rounds. I don’t feel we really need to do much with the WR room. Higgins is of course a great player but given we are pretty good there, I don’t think it would be a good way of spending our assets. He’s better than how much he would our O better, if that makes sense.

WR is a tough position to judge. We know exactly how Chark fits in and he is starting to gel with Goff. Goff in his entire career in college and in the pros has always taken time to gain trust in WR and use them effectively. Goff is reluctant to throw balls unless he knows exactly what his target is going to do. Eventhough some like TJ was talented, Goff did not trust him. Just sign Chark as he wants to be here and he fits in and he is really not that high dollar, $8-9M for three years.

 

[Ilov80s]

It is possible the best draft prospect falls to the Lions for the third year in a row. The best scenerio is Jalen Carter is somehow still there as teams go QB and Edge.

Unlikely but possible- there is that outside shot. We just want to see lots of trade ups for QB. I also would love to trade back but Witherspoon seems like an acceptable worst case scenario.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

A couple of mocks also have Carter dropping to 6, with one of them having the Packers moving up to 7 and drafting a WR. The Raiders would get Aaron Rodgers in return along with a 2024 2nd. This echoes big money going on the Raiders to be ARs next team.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Pre-combine drafts are a good way to get a feel for where players are at perception wise - Shrine & Senior Bowl def helped a few guys stock - but March 3-5 will initiate the really big movements.

Other than 3-4 IOL and a couple excellent online blocking TEs I have very little interest in any offensive draft candidates.

Edit - OK, 6th round QB Clayton Tune is interesting just from a tool’s perspective

Would love to see 6-7 defensive players taken if they stay at 8 picks (goes to 9-10 if they trade back.)

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OFF TOPIC

When did duh•TROIT become DEE•troit?

Should we blame Mason?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Saw a Mock today in which Bruce fell to the 6th and the Panthers moved up

9 + 61

Man seems light but the Draft Pick Value Chart says it’s about right

I say if we can’t get a 1st & 2nd we should stay there

Jovan Witherspoon + O’Cyrus Torrence would be a great combo to start with. Little early on current projections but I think it’s worth it just to get the best man cover corner and the best IOL.

Should be about 6-7 CBs who could go in the first: Witherspoon, Gonzales, Porter Jr, Forbes, Ringo, S/CB Branch, possibly Ricks.
Could take Garrett Williams at 48 or 55, basically a red shirt investment bc he’ll still be rehabbing. Or grab a S like Battle or the Penn State dude.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Exactly one (1) NFL team scored five (5) offensive touchdowns versus the Eagles over their 20 game season

Spoiler: guess who

we the Detroit Lions stop playing with us I don’t even watch tv but I heard none of y’all picked us don’t worry about these tears it’s al dog in this mug

 

[Ilov80s]

Saw a Mock today in which Bruce fell to the 6th and the Panthers moved up

9 + 61

Man seems light but the Draft Pick Value Chart says it’s about right

I say if we can’t get a 1st & 2nd we should stay there

Jovan Witherspoon + O’Cyrus Torrence would be a great combo to start with. Little early on current projections but I think it’s worth it just to get the best man cover corner and the best IOL.

Should be about 6-7 CBs who could go in the first: Witherspoon, Gonzales, Porter Jr, Forbes, Ringo, S/CB Branch, possibly Ricks.
Could take Garrett Williams at 48 or 55, basically a red shirt investment bc he’ll still be rehabbing. Or grab a S like Battle or the Penn State dude.

I assume you mean Bryce fell to 6. Lions could get way more than 9 and 61 for Bryce Young.

 

[Ilov80s]

NFL.com mock by Chad Reuter has the Lions go with Gonzalez at 6 and then both Witherspoon and Branch were there at 18 (he had us taking Mayer though). I think this guy is way off base but I would be over the moon if we could get Gonzalez and Branch/Witherspoon.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Saw a Mock today in which Bruce fell to the 6th and the Panthers moved up

9 + 61

Man seems light but the Draft Pick Value Chart says it’s about right

I say if we can’t get a 1st & 2nd we should stay there

Jovan Witherspoon + O’Cyrus Torrence would be a great combo to start with. Little early on current projections but I think it’s worth it just to get the best man cover corner and the best IOL.

Should be about 6-7 CBs who could go in the first: Witherspoon, Gonzales, Porter Jr, Forbes, Ringo, S/CB Branch, possibly Ricks.
Could take Garrett Williams at 48 or 55, basically a red shirt investment bc he’ll still be rehabbing. Or grab a S like Battle or the Penn State dude.

I assume you mean Bryce fell to 6. Lions could get way more than 9 and 61 for Bryce Young.

Yeah I would think if the Panthers are the trading partner the bare minimum is #9 + #39

 

[BobbyLayne]

NFL.com mock by Chad Reuter has the Lions go with Gonzalez at 6 and then both Witherspoon and Branch were there at 18 (he had us taking Mayer though). I think this guy is way off base but I would be over the moon if we could get Gonzalez and Branch/Witherspoon.

It’s still hard to project that pre-combine but off film Witherspoon is an order of magnitude better at being a press corner (if that’s part of your defensive philosophy.)

Gonzales is the clear #2 CB in this class IMO, Cam Smith & JPJ are a coin flip at 3/4. I get why everyone loves Branch’s versatility but I’m not sure he’ll have as much impact as those four.

Watching Nick Bolton last night has me excited about the possibility of getting Trenton Simpson at 18. Next best cover + LB who is a good all around backer is Drew Sanders and he’s probably not there mid-second (whereas there will still be good CB/S at 48 & 55.)

 

[BobbyLayne]

wife bought me some new running shoes for Valentine's Day

 

[BobbyLayne]

if you enjoy NFL mock draft simulators, the PFF rankings tool have some huge post-Senior Bowl swings

seeing far different results today (was updated overnight) and I think it's a truer reflection of where things might shake out

of course they'll be another huge swing post-Combine but I think it's super interesting to note who is rising and who is falling early in the process

 

[BobbyLayne]

PFF has an article up on the biggest draft mistake for every team in the last 5 years.

Detroit:

From 2018-2020, the Lions had six top-50 picks. This is how they utilized them:

C Frank Ragnow (Pick 20, 2018)

RB Kerryon Johnson (Pick 43, 2018)

TE T.J. Hockenson (Pick 8, 2019)

LB Jahlani Tavai (Pick 43, 2019)

CB Jeffrey Okudah (Pick 3, 2020)

RB D’Andre Swift (Pick 35, 2020)

For those scoring at home, the Lions used five of those six picks on the four lowest-paid positions in the NFL. The only way it could have been worse is if they drafted a kicker. And even the pick of a cornerback in 2020 was debatable given Matthew Stafford had one foot out the door with Tua Tagovailoa and Justin Herbert still on the board.

My dream draft plan:

DBs and D-lineman
Rinse and repeat - would love to see two of each after 81 picks
LB late rounds - unless they like a hybrid cover guy like Henley, Overshawn or Simpson as the 5th Day 1 & Day 2 pick
G if one falls or maybe two versatile OL in the 5th/6th
QB project like Tune with the last pick
(or Jake Moody for the capper bc I miss having a Hanson/Prater kind of guy)

 

[BobbyLayne]

PFF Mock Draft Trends (all players in which Detroit is a top 3 landing spot)

Player​	School​	Position​	PFF Big Board Ranking​	Percentage Mocked to Lions​
Jalen Carter	Georgia	DI	2	12
Devon Witherspoon	Illinois	CB	6	40
Christian Gonzales	Oregon	CB	10	31
Tyree Wilson	Texas Tech	ED	7	17
Lukas Van Ness	Iowa	ED	12	12
Calijah Kancey	Pittsburgh	DI	14	12
Brian Branch	Alabama	DB	9	14
Myles Murphy	Clemson	ED	19	18
Joey Porter Jr	Penn State	CB	21	21
Brian Bresee	Clemson	DI	16	39
Bijan Robinson	Texas	RB	27	22
Michael Mayer	Notre Dame	TE	28	11
Nolan Smith	Georgia	ED	26	8
Mazi Smith	Michigan	DI	35	21
Tuli Tuipulotu	USC	ED	43	7
Emmanuel Forbes	South Carolina	CB	42	29
Daiyan Henley	Washington State	LB	38	16
Karl Brooks	Bowling Green	ED	48	7
Felix Anudike-Uzomah	Kansas State	ED	46	14
Garrett Williams	Syracuse	CB	49	20
Tyrique Stevenson	Miami	CB	39	10
Jahmyr Gibbs	Alabama	RB	51	22
Keion White	Georgia Tech	ED	53	13
Trenton Simpson	Clemson	LB	59	16
Sam LaPorta	Iowa	TE	57	12
Siaki Ika	Baylor	NT	55	10
Zach Charbonnet	Michigan/UCLA	RB	61	25
Sydney Brown	Illinois	S	58	18
Eli Ricks	Alabama	CB	61	13
Jack Campbell	Iowa	LB	64	29
Tre'vius Hodges-Tomlinson	TCU	CB	60	9
Keeanu Benton	Wisconsin	DI	70	10
Mike Morris	Michigan	ED	67	14
Jammie Robinson	Florida State	S	65	8
Cam Smith	South Carolina	CB	69	16
Kelee Ringo	Georgia	CB	75	21
Jordan Battle	Alabama	S	74	14
Darnell Washington	Georgia	TE	72	16
DeMarvion Overshown	Texas	LB	82	14
Darius Rush	South Carolina	CB	80	19
Moro Ojomo	Texas	LB	85	13
J.L. Skinner	Boise State	CB	87	24
Jaquelin Roy	LSU	DI	93	12
Drew Sanders	Arkansas	LB	95	15
Tank Bigsby	Auburn	RB	83	14
Hendon Hooker	Tennessee	QB	94	12
Noah Sewell	Oregon	LB	105	14
Sean Tucker	Syracuse	RB	116	13
Keondre Coburn	Texas	DI	118	23
Ji'Ayir Brown	Penn State	S	120	13
Brodric Martin	Western Kentucky	DI	115	12
Jacob Slade	Michigan State	DI	154	12
Jake Haener	Fresno State	QB	145	10
Aidan O'Connell	Purdue	QB	132	9
Chandler Zavala	North Carolina State	G	139	9
Henry To'oTo'o	Alabama	LB	160	14
Rashad Torrence II	Florida	S	156	9
Deuce Vaughn	Kansas State	HB	159	10
Clayton Tune	Houston	QB	183	22
Josh Wyle	Cincinnati	TE	179	9
Nick Broeker	Ole Miss	G	193	18
Braeden Daniels	Utah	T	181	10
Stetson Bennett	Georgia	QB	164	9
Ronnie Bell	Michigan	WR	191	18
Isaiah Land	Florida A&M	ED	194	10
Dylan Horton	TCU	ED	190	11
Ali Gaye	LSU	ED	188	11
Kenny McIntosh	Georgia	RB	182	14
Asim Richards	North Carolina	T	195	11
Brenton Cox Jr	Florida	ED	197	8
Ryan Hayes	Michigan	T	187	19
Jake Moody	Michigan	K	296	28

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Sounds like Glenn was a finalist for the Cardinals job https://twitter.com/PrideOfDetroit/status/1625250216034070543?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I'm in the all defense first round opinion, but copying over from Travdog's mock draft/Bobby Laynes possibility for the 2nd round (instead of a TE):

(BL): the Lions don't have a RG. Evan Brown is going to go get himself a money bag, Big V is a cap cut, and there's literally no one else on the roster.

Steve Avila G TCU, played both Center and Guard in college. High floor player who is ready to start week 1. Older rookie at 23, but that's probably less of an issue for OL. Better pass clocker than run blocker, but that may also be a function of TCU's offense

This guy would be perfect for the Lions at #48. Age is less of a factor if he is projected as a week 1 starter. Could even slide over to center if Ragnow keeps having a bum toe.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'm in the all defense first round opinion, but copying over from Travdog's mock draft/Bobby Laynes possibility for the 2nd round (instead of a TE):

(BL): the Lions don't have a RG. Evan Brown is going to go get himself a money bag, Big V is a cap cut, and there's literally no one else on the roster.

Steve Avila G TCU, played both Center and Guard in college. High floor player who is ready to start week 1. Older rookie at 23, but that's probably less of an issue for OL. Better pass clocker than run blocker, but that may also be a function of TCU's offense

This guy would be perfect for the Lions at #48. Age is less of a factor if he is projected as a week 1 starter. Could even slide over to center if Ragnow keeps having a bum toe.

Second highest ranked guard behind O'Cyrus Torrence. I actually wouldn't mind if we went G at #18 - get that 5th year option and he said at the Senior Bowl really wants to play for the Lions (culture, great OL, et al.) Then again they might take care of that situation before the draft.

 

[Foosball God]

Cody Mauch could be a good one as well in the second.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Cody Mauch could be a good one as well in the second.

Yeah absolutely - love him shifting to G (which is probably a plus move for him anyway), then you have options if down the road they want to shift Penei to LT. Same reason @Ilov80s has been pimping Broderick Jones as a T at 1.18 we could move over. He was voted Offensive Line Practice Player of the Week by the defensive line and linebackers at the Senior Bowl and I've heard a couple podcasts touting him. Right now I think PFF has them as Jones OT4 and Mauch OT5, e.g., looking like an early second round pick atm so might have to move up from #48 to get him.

Still it's too early to forecast, we'll see some huge swings after the Combine and post-FA period we'll know where teams are still truly still lacking.