2025 Miami Dolphins - 1-6, Currently hold the #2 pick in the draft. (6 Viewers)

[SwampDawg]

I wonder what Eric Bieniemy is  thinking watching this all go down. 

Maybe that he should have gotten help for his drinking problem like McDaniel did and it would have showed something. It might have helped his case. While it was in the past there has never seemed to be any sort of acknowledgement and repenting for the multitude of issues that followed him from his playing days through coaching in Colorado.

 

[SoBeDad]

Apparently alot of people have been asking for proof, especially black people per Sun Sentinel Dolphin reporter Omar Kelly.

>>I got a lot of tweets to get off when I can come up for air, but I know y’all needed to see this . Mike Mcdaniel’s parents’ wedding photo (that he sent me the first day I signed in CLE in 2014. because I was skeptical lol): Congrats to my guy Mike!<<

https://twitter.com/Hawk/status/1490525418721452038?s=20&t=Y-mgxHuiPuQE2T9Xt8H24g

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I wonder what Eric Bieniemy is  thinking watching this all go down. 

The Occam's Razor explanation to the EB "situation" is that, given the league wide aversion to him, he's not the candidate his supporters portray him as. 

 

[Gatorman]

The Occam's Razor explanation to the EB "situation" is that, given the league wide aversion to him, he's not the candidate his supporters portray him as. 

I get it, but, to be fair especially in the discussion of race, it seems that things like these that are red flags for coaches of color are accepted in those who are white.  Adam Gase (allegedly) drinks scotch like a fish (and he had to be "helped out" of a few places while he was coach of the dolphins) but it does not seem to ding him.

POC have to have a pristine sheet to get a job where those who are white just need to smile and shrug about their personal failings...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

15 different teams have interviewed him for their head coaching job over the last few years and he rarely gets a second interview.

But none yet this year, right? 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I get it, but, to be fair especially in the discussion of race, it seems that things like these that are red flags for coaches of color are accepted in those who are white.  Adam Gase (allegedly) drinks scotch like a fish (and he had to be "helped out" of a few places while he was coach of the dolphins) but it does not seem to ding him.

POC have to have a pristine sheet to get a job where those who are white just need to smile and shrug about their personal failings...

If that's the true reason (and it might be, I didn't know it was a problem until HSG mentioned it) then I agree with you. I just mean that it seems a little weird that on one hand his supporters are incredulous he hasn't been hired and on the other he really hasn't generated that much interest.

To me, it just seems like he isn't that great of a HC candidate. For whatever reason.

 

[menobrown]

But none yet this year, right? 

Yes he's had but what is your point? He's literally got in his foot in the door for most NFL openings and he can't get the job.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

It reminds me of the conclusion to the Key & Peele skit "Office Homophobe" -  "I'm not persecuted...I'm just an #######."

(I don't know that he is, just that it's a possibility.)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Maybe that he should have gotten help for his drinking problem like McDaniel did and it would have showed something. It might have helped his case. While it was in the past there has never seemed to be any sort of acknowledgement and repenting for the multitude of issues that followed him from his playing days through coaching in Colorado.

I just googled and wow - there is quite a bit there. I wasn’t aware of some of his off-field issues back at Colorado. Maybe you’re right, but it seems like all of it is pretty distant past. Has he had any issues recently? You say “drinking problem” like he’s currently had issues and I can’t seem to find any. 

Still, there seem to be a lot of Imperfect humans who’ve had head coaching gigs in the NFL. If I’m hiring one, I probably care more about coaching experience, provided his past is in his past.

this article seems to debunk a lot of the reasons folks have given here. 
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/its-time-to-bust-all-the-stock-reasons-eric-bieniemy-cant-be-a-head-coach/

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If that's the true reason (and it might be, I didn't know it was a problem until HSG mentioned it)

Just to clarify, I did not bring up race at all.

I was comparing resumes of McDaniel & Bieniemy.  That’s it. Absolutely nothing to do with the color of skin. 

a 1-year OC got the job over a multi-year OC. That was my only point. 

its a sensitive issue on this forum (clearly) so maybe don't attribute that to me. 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Just to clarify, I did not bring up race at all.

I was comparing resumes of McDaniel & Bieniemy.  That’s it. Absolutely nothing to do with the color of skin. 

a 1-year OC got the job over a multi-year OC. That was my only point. 

its a sensitive issue on this forum (clearly) so maybe don't attribute that to me. 

Ooops, I meant that @SwampDawgbrought up the drinking issue as a reason for his non-hires. I hadn't heard of/didn't remember that. Sorry for quoting you incorrectly.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yes he's had but what is your point? He's literally got in his foot in the door for most NFL openings and he can't get the job.

Just that he seems to be ultimately qualified, and more than a 1 article has been written debunking every excuse folks have given in here for why he isn’t being considered more.

It’s just puzzling to me. Seems like he should get a shot somewhere.  Andy Reid seems to think Bieniemy would make a good HC. I’d think a dumpster fire team like HOU or the Dolphins might give him a shot.

Don't we know exactly what Lovie Smith is by now?    

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I meant that you brought up the drinking issue as a reason for his non-hires. I hadn't heard of/didn't remember that.

That wasn’t me either. 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That wasn’t me either. 

Yeah, I just realized and corrected that with an edit above. Sorry.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah, I just realized and corrected that with an edit above. Sorry.

It’s all good my friend. I was laughing, but they took away my laugh emoji reaction because we can’t have nice things. :(  

 

[Ministry of Pain]

as a 49ers fan, I have to say it is shocking to see this guy get a head coach job with one season as OC of a team where Shanahan is reportedly calling the plays.

meanwhile, Miami gets a huge question mark. stunning.  

I used to use that word stunning a lot but lately here in Miami it's just more par for the course here. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I used to use that word stunning a lot but lately here in Miami it's just more par for the course here. 

Fair point. 

:laugh reaction emoji: 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I’m jaded now too. 

-Hang in there, feel terrible for turning another Skywalker towards the Dark Side.

-What happens in the OL and who is named to continue leading the defense is critical for this team to get any better. Tua, Mahomes, Mickey Mouse, nobody can survive behind that OL, Tua released the ball in under 2 seconds most passes, that's a bad recipe for long term success, think we all agree on this around here which makes it complicated when we grade Tua...but on arm strength or any strength really, he just seems weak. 

-Let's not discount that as funny as it looks/sounds this guy is multiracial, there's proof this is 100% true and despite looking completely white, this guy comes from a diverse background and should be able to communicate and get respect of peers and players, although i can see someone like Howard challenging him early to see what he's made of. But I'm willing to think this 11th hour development of this also ties in with the recent lawsuit filed, it's in the back of my mind anyways. 

-FTR: Leftwhich was interviewing JAX while the Bucs were in the Playoffs, when teams want certain coaches they ask for permission and usually those 1st interviews are done or can be done without the Asst Coach physically leaving where they are, 2nd interview might have to wait until they are done with their playoff run. But I didn't want to focus on that part of your post. 

And again, 7%...Flores might have been that guy, we'll never know now. 

-The Orlando Magic got lucky in the lottery in the 90s and landed Shaq and Penny which was amazing for a little while. 7% is roughly 15:1, you gotta hire 15 of these guys to find 1 that survives. McVay is now one of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL, 25-30 guys or more have come on and gone in his short time as the Head Coach of the LA Rams. 

-But MM is here now, what's the plan? Press conference will tell us nothing. OL and future DC is all I want to know about right now. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Undisputed's Take

Shannon and Skip weigh in

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Is there anyone out there that feels bad for McDaniel coming here? Is it doomed before it takes off? 

Quite a decent Defense with which to build around, certainly would seem like he could UPGRADE the RB and OL so take a lot of pressure off the QB and maybe get Tua up to a Jimmy G level? 

Like it or not they are going to take the field in September with this guy as the leader, what can we expect? He's not allowed to start 0-7, can we all agree on that? He should come out winning football games if he's worth his salt.

-Any chance Jimmy G walks in the door down here and allows for Tua to take a seat on the bench until he's so good he takes the job from Jimmy G? 

Miami has $30M to pay off the Niners debt and take Jimmy G in here...oh you don't like him now but wait until he's here and you see him 1st hand. Super Bowl with a 10 point lead in the 4th, 2 NFCC under his belt. He's won Playoff Games! 

 

[SoBeDad]

Based on this great comparison of SF and MIA, there will be big changes coming to the offense. No surprise. More outside zone blocking schemes, use of a FB, 2+ RB, shift, less pistol. From Ryan Smith of PFF.

https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1490759932668432385?s=20&t=F6CYWZzDBXZZQQdSx9p_Iw

 

[TripleThreat]

I like the hire. Look forward to seeing his staff...  

 

[Rockchild]

I'm indifferent to the move. I hope it works out but everything has been so underwhelming for so long that I can't get excited. I'd like for it to work out though.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Based on this great comparison of SF and MIA, there will be big changes coming to the offense. No surprise. More outside zone blocking schemes, use of a FB, 2+ RB, shift, less pistol. From Ryan Smith of PFF.

https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1490759932668432385?s=20&t=F6CYWZzDBXZZQQdSx9p_Iw

Great stuff, love the run comparison, we absolutely will be better at running the football next season, no doubt in my mind however...

Trent Williams was #1 at Left/Right Tackle in the NFL per PFF

Tom Compton who replaces McGlinchey-1st Rd pick #9 overall in 2018, that guy finished 16th our of 83 rated Tackles. Pretty darn good. 

Those were their 2 starting Tackle spots, Miami ranked near the bottom for their starting Tackles. 

And I can keep going thru this. Laken Tomlinson-Guard ranked 13th out of 82 

Alex Mack their Center, I can look it up but I bet he ranks pretty high vs anything we threw at the spot last year. 12th out of 39 

I'm sure this coach must think he can make their offense better with a stronger OL and at least 1 or 2 RBs, something much more like what Cleveland tries to roll with and find a couple RBs to come in here and attack the position like we haven't done in a long time. 

But like I keep eluding, as the offense progresses I have a bad feeling the Defense will erode, hope I am totally wrong on that and they continue to strengthen it at the Edges in the Front 7 and at LB and at Nickel. 

Look for Waddle to be used some like Deebo is used with some more run plays. I don't think he's as strong or big as Deebo and likely can't sustain big hits at RB but I do expect his role to expand beyond short flip passes. 

 

[jtd13]

Great stuff, love the run comparison, we absolutely will be better at running the football next season, no doubt in my mind however...

Trent Williams was #1 at Left/Right Tackle in the NFL per PFF

Tom Compton who replaces McGlinchey-1st Rd pick #9 overall in 2018, that guy finished 16th our of 83 rated Tackles. Pretty darn good. 

Those were their 2 starting Tackle spots, Miami ranked near the bottom for their starting Tackles. 

And I can keep going thru this. Laken Tomlinson-Guard ranked 13th out of 82 

Alex Mack their Center, I can look it up but I bet he ranks pretty high vs anything we threw at the spot last year. 12th out of 39 

I'm sure this coach must think he can make their offense better with a stronger OL and at least 1 or 2 RBs, something much more like what Cleveland tries to roll with and find a couple RBs to come in here and attack the position like we haven't done in a long time. 

But like I keep eluding, as the offense progresses I have a bad feeling the Defense will erode, hope I am totally wrong on that and they continue to strengthen it at the Edges in the Front 7 and at LB and at Nickel. 

Look for Waddle to be used some like Deebo is used with some more run plays. I don't think he's as strong or big as Deebo and likely can't sustain big hits at RB but I do expect his role to expand beyond short flip passes. 

My 2 hopes with McDaniel:

1. he gets on Grier about how much he needs at least 1 good vet OL (Terron Armstead. Please.)

2. He hires a non-1st time OL coach to coach the young OLmen (I hear he has a good relationship with Munchak? That works for me)

 

[DropKick]

Look for Waddle to be used some like Deebo is used with some more run plays. I don't think he's as strong or big as Deebo and likely can't sustain big hits at RB but I do expect his role to expand beyond short flip passes. 

Night and day physical builds.  Deebo is a ~ 30.25 BMI while Waddle is ~26.25

So, Waddle shouldn't be used in as physical a role.  I'd like to see more of a Tyreek comparison...  Deebo, himself, gets dinged up regularly.  But, yes, more creativity would be welcome as would more down the field plays.  But that may hinge on the QB, be it Tua or someone else.  

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Which TE is Miami going to convert to Fullback? 

That's an essential part of the SF Offense and we don't carry one on the roster. If you have 5 decent OL, a solid run blocking TE, add in a lead FB and then you pitch the ball to a dynamic RB, we don't have nothing like that here. 

 

[Gatorman]

Night and day physical builds.  Deebo is a ~ 30.25 BMI while Waddle is ~26.25

So, Waddle shouldn't be used in as physical a role.  I'd like to see more of a Tyreek comparison...  Deebo, himself, gets dinged up regularly.  But, yes, more creativity would be welcome as would more down the field plays.  But that may hinge on the QB, be it Tua or someone else.  

Agreed. I think that the “Deebo” role is as yet undefined. 
 

this will be a question of does MM find players to fit his scheme or change scheme to fit his players?  More below:

o line: the question on the oline is: is it the players that were drafted, or the coaching, or the scheme?  Dolphins have spent a lot of draft capital on the line, so yeah, they likely need one or two vets to solidify this line but I think coaching and scheme may unlock the potential here. 
 

rb: interesting point about SF is that they also don’t spend a lot of draft capital on the position, so perhaps we don’t take a “rb” in the draft (again) but get a guy like mosert or Breida back on the team.  Meanwhile drafting a “deebo” style player (220 lb kick return style wr) to lineup there as well? (Jim Jensen to the white courtesy phone)  

TE: likely the most important position in this offensive scheme and a position where the players we have do not mesh with the players we need.  Gesecki isn’t a blocking TE. Hunter long might be, but we need two of those guys (and a fb) to make this wide zone running game work.  I think free agency more so than the draft (and whether or not we tender MG) will tell us where they are going.

FB: ok, the good news is we need an old school miami style fullback. One that can block, but just like the FBs of old, can get out there in the passing game. Should be fun to see where they get this player as I’m sure that is the making of a fan favorite and something all of us long standing dolphin fans remember 

finally: QB. There are some things the SF offense did that plays to Tua’s strengths and some things they didn’t do that Tua is good at.  RPO not so much.  Play action yes. So it will be interesting to see how the “offensive genius” meshes some of what Tua is good at into the scheme he wants to run. 
 

all in all here is my take: if the o line and running game improves this team can contend right now. This assumes there isn’t a major drop off on D but figuring at worst we stay w the same DC and players we had last year we should be ok, and if we get the former Denver HC we likely may improve a little. We still need some linebackers. 

 

[Gatorman]

Which TE is Miami going to convert to Fullback? 

That's an essential part of the SF Offense and we don't carry one on the roster. If you have 5 decent OL, a solid run blocking TE, add in a lead FB and then you pitch the ball to a dynamic RB, we don't have nothing like that here. 

The player is likely not on the team at the moment. Good news is that player isn’t too expensive to get in free agency and doesn’t cost a lot of draft capital either ( they may be able to find one as an UDFA). Doesn’t mean he will be kyle from day one but those guys still exist in college football. 

 

[TripleThreat]

Lynn Bowden is still on the roster.  He has those open field skills 5'11" 200 ish.  Short of bringing someone in new he's as close as they have I'd say.  

Really interested in his staff.  Does he keep the bones of the D?  Fangio coming? 

 

[SoBeDad]

Lynn Bowden is still on the roster.  He has those open field skills 5'11" 200 ish.  Short of bringing someone in new he's as close as they have I'd say.  

Really interested in his staff.  Does he keep the bones of the D?  Fangio coming? 

Waddle, Parker, Bowden, Hollins. They need another WR with speed, FA or draft.

Barry Jackson wrote that Grier/Flores mismanaged the roster by putting Bowden on season-ending IR in 2021. Bowden could've come back at some point and we would've had close to half a season to evaluate him.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Waddle, Parker, Bowden, Hollins. They need another WR with speed, FA or draft.

Barry Jackson wrote that Grier/Flores mismanaged the roster by putting Bowden on season-ending IR in 2021. Bowden could've come back at some point and we would've had close to half a season to evaluate him.

Cap Hits in 2022

WR: Parker and Waddle count about $15M ATC Parker almost $9M vs $5.5M in dead cap if they release him, don't think he will be going anywhere even if he slides into a WR3 role with a lot of injury history, he's the Jimmy G of WRs here. 

Allen Hurns $3M vs under $500k to release him +$2.5M I say buh bye. Love my former Canes but he isn't worth carrying, would rather get a WR in the 4th on a rookie deal for 2-3-4 yrs and see what develops vs that. 

Dedmon and Core? They are currently listed and i doubt either are there come summer time. 

Lynn Bowden is listed as a RB on Spotrac

Miami as they sit are roughly $65M under the cap, if they say good bye to RT Jesse Davis and Safety-Eric Rowe they will free up another $8M in cap space. DT-Adam Butler saves them another $4M. Sander the kicker if released saves another $3M, he was nothing special this year. Hurns-Gieter-Gaskin-C.Carter and we get another $10M collectively. 

Miami will have IMHO, roughly $90M to spend, a few teams are loaded with cash so free agency will be expensive to build around but Miami is also not over the barrel on their cap, that should help a young coach. I think Mike Gesicki might walk although with SF Offense coming over, one would like to retain him, we have the money. We should try and get 1 quality interior OL in free agency, Hunt can play and I like Eichenberg if they can get him some help, maybe slide him over to Right Tackle, that's Tua's blind side of course but I see a smart OL who comes form Notre Dame, reminds of a guy we lost in the last couple years named Bob Keuchenberg. We can salvage 2 from this current group, will need to draft another starter this year IMO.  

I'd like to see Miami sign a WR who is under the radar or hasn't gotten a ton of targets but somehow fits into the new scheme like a glove and someone who immediately wants to come here because they know they likely fit this offense being installed, wish i had that name off the top of my head. 

26-50-100-117-121

OL-RB-WR...with the understanding an Edge or any BPA that falls into their lap they need to run to the podium, inject more talent into this roster wherever they can get it but especially at OL. 

I think 26 and 50 should be used on OL and 1 skill position be it RB or WR, also I would expect this coach to be able to find a decent RB in one of the triple digit picks so maybe WR and then a solid OL with 26 and 50, that would help Miami quite a bit and should make Tua happy. 

 

[TripleThreat]

Waddle, Parker, Bowden, Hollins. They need another WR with speed, FA or draft.

Barry Jackson wrote that Grier/Flores mismanaged the roster by putting Bowden on season-ending IR in 2021. Bowden could've come back at some point and we would've had close to half a season to evaluate him.

Lynn Bowden is listed as a RB on Spotrac

Bowden is interesting in that he was everything at Kentucky started as a WR then moved to QB where he was essentially a full time Wildcat QB (ironically).  Raiders tried him at RB for 3 minutes and then gave up on him, perhaps that's why he's still listed as RB.  He's listed and played at WR for the Dolphins and I'm not sure the previous OCs could unlock him...  

I imagine Lindsey and Duke could have a roll in McDaniel's offense. 

 

[massraider]

I haven't even seen him with the headphones on yet, but this guy already looks like the guy in the van with the surveillance equipment in every spy movie ever.

 

[jtd13]

Parker ... don't think he will be going anywhere even if he slides into a WR3 role with a lot of injury history, he's the Jimmy G of WRs here. 

I laughed. Good comparison (and I agree he is likely around again this year, as much as I am sick of seeing him on the roster)

It's clear there is still a big need for a couple WRs. Hollins is a special teams ace and Bowden is a gadget guy. Need at least 2 true outside WRs. 

 

[Gatorman]

Not sure if you saw this, but MOP is about to have a heart attack.

MM speaks to Tua

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Not sure if you saw this, but MOP is about to have a heart attack.

MM speaks to Tua

He should be so nice to the fan base here that suffers endlessly. 

-Just show us the wins 

Joe Philbin all over again. 

 

[Gatorman]

He should be so nice to the fan base here that suffers endlessly. 

-Just show us the wins 

Joe Philbin all over again. 

This is likely to be a freezing cold take so I want to quote it for posterity.

If philbin had 5% of the personality that MM does he likely would still be coaching here.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This is likely to be a freezing cold take so I want to quote it for posterity.

If philbin had 5% of the personality that MM does he likely would still be coaching here.

Let's not forget that key Dolphins came out and said Tua is not that popular and they don't necessarily feel they can win with this guy and he's the first person the little guy calls on the plane ride to Miami, great message to send where the leadership points to in this organization. 

You can bump all my posts, I do it all the time to remind you folks and have been for years. 

Let's go back to Tua vs Arizona and we can bump that game thread, it's loaded with juicy posts. Many proclaiming we had arrived when we beat Murray and the Cards at that time, my how things unraveled afterwards. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This is all on Stephen Ross

Ireland/Sparano at odds. Ross kept Ireland, fired Sparano, hired Philbin.

Philbin/Ireland at odds. Fired Ireland, hired Hickey, kept Philbin.

Philbin/Hickey at odds. Added Tannenbaum, who fired Hickey, Kept Philbin.

Philbin/Aponte Tannenbaum combine, Philbin fired, Aponte "promoted" away from team.

Tannenbaum/Grier/Gase combine. Fired Gase, fired Tannenbaum, keeps and empowers Grier. Grier leads search to hire Flores.

Grier/Flores at odds. Fire Flores, Keeps Grier. 

Hires McDaniel, Keeps Grier...

-Which previous coach does McDaniel most emulate on paper? Offense guy that doesn't call plays and nobody really knows what he does well but you want him around, he generally is easy to get along with. That smells like success, right?

 

[Gatorman]

This is all on Stephen Ross

Ireland/Sparano at odds. Ross kept Ireland, fired Sparano, hired Philbin.

Philbin/Ireland at odds. Fired Ireland, hired Hickey, kept Philbin.

Philbin/Hickey at odds. Added Tannenbaum, who fired Hickey, Kept Philbin.

Philbin/Aponte Tannenbaum combine, Philbin fired, Aponte "promoted" away from team.

Tannenbaum/Grier/Gase combine. Fired Gase, fired Tannenbaum, keeps and empowers Grier. Grier leads search to hire Flores.

Grier/Flores at odds. Fire Flores, Keeps Grier. 

Hires McDaniel, Keeps Grier...

-Which previous coach does McDaniel most emulate on paper? Offense guy that doesn't call plays and nobody really knows what he does well but you want him around, he generally is easy to get along with. That smells like success, right?

Your timeline makes sense, the Philbin comparison simply doesn't.  Just bc he was an OC that didn't call plays?  Did Philbin have a coach in his division saying he's glad to see him out of the division (McVay)?  A bunch of players who had career years working with him and actually tweet/post about it? 

Lazy...

I'm a realist in that he maybe good, or he may be another in a long line of missteps by Miami, but his story is not at all the same as Philbin.  

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Let's not forget that key Dolphins came out and said Tua is not that popular and they don't necessarily feel they can win with this guy and he's the first person the little guy calls on the plane ride to Miami, great message to send where the leadership points to in this organization. 

You can bump all my posts, I do it all the time to remind you folks and have been for years. 

Let's go back to Tua vs Arizona and we can bump that game thread, it's loaded with juicy posts. Many proclaiming we had arrived when we beat Murray and the Cards at that time, my how things unraveled afterwards. 

You’re upset that the new HC called the current starting QB on the team? For the time being at least “the little guy’s” job depends on his relationship with Tua.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You’re upset that the new HC called the current starting QB on the team? For the time being at least “the little guy’s” job depends on his relationship with Tua.

That's no way to run a football team, just ask Bill. 

-I'm just trying to understand the optics when we know players have spoken out about Tua's limitations and they watch this guy pick up the phone and kiss Tua's ### on Spacebook Live and I can't wait to see how many guys want traded or out of here in the off season. 

Howard has a market value of roughly $22M and he's set to make $13M, let's see if he pulls the same shenanigans this off season, either more money or trade him to a team that will give him a new deal. He's a vocal leader, maybe McDaniel wants to chop the head off early and head off any showdowns with big ego players. 

All conjecture on my part but I go back to that Instatwit call the little guy made. The optics and message that sends is exactly what you said, he's a Stephen Ross puppet. 

"Ross and the Little man will be back after these messages"

 

[Dr. Octopus]

That's no way to run a football team, just ask Bill. 

-I'm just trying to understand the optics when we know players have spoken out about Tua's limitations and they watch this guy pick up the phone and kiss Tua's ### on Spacebook Live and I can't wait to see how many guys want traded or out of here in the off season. 

Are you suggesting Belichick doesn't care about establishing a relationship with his starting QB?

As to the second point - which player should he have called first that would have made everyone happy?

Seems like an odd thing to complain about.

 

[SwampDawg]

@Ministry of PainI love your passion and caring about this team, don't ever change brother. That said I have to agree with the others above. You are only going to take you as far as your QB can take you so if he truly believes in Tua or not we don't know but as of right now he is the QB so reaching out to him makes total sense. We have no idea if he did call other players as well, I will say if I was him Howard is down on my list to call. Great player yes but a total ME guy, he is worried about his money more then anything else and even if they gave him an extension today I have no doubt he would be complaining in August if 3 other guys get bigger deals between now and then. Don't get me wrong you can have guys like that on your team but they aren't the ones I'm reaching out to as a coach on day one.

As for the Philbin comparison I agree with @Gatorman, they are both offensive coaches and a little geeky/different but that is where it stops. It would be like saying it was obvious Flores would fail because he was another Sparano, both tough nosed meat heads. I don't even pretend to be an X's and O's guy, but all the comments from the coaches and players he has worked as well as most of the X's and O's media guys seem to think he has some pretty special skills. It's the shock and awe guys that seem not to like him.

 

[zed2283]

Plenty of black head coaches get hired in the NFL.  You can argue with what "plenty" might be, but enough have been hired that you can't choose one in particular (i.e. Bienemy) and say that he doesn't have a head job because of racism.

I'll consider myself Nostradamus if he ever gets hired as a head coach, because I was saying he would be a good head coach back when he was the Vikings RBs coach.  I challenge anyone to beat that lol.

The fact is he's been interviewed many times and hasn't been hired.  Call it what you want, but it's not racism.  I read the link someone posted about disproving all the reasons, and I wasn't convinced.  That was weak at best.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I admit that "little guy" is not very nice and I shouldn't judge him just because he looks like DJ Mark Farina from San Fran House scene, both vertically challenged. 

It's with great pleasure I give him a new knick name that won't feel like a swipe every time so we can all discuss and enjoy. You don't have to refer to him this way but I like this one much better.  

Coach M&M just like the candy, he's sweet. 

You all are having that honeymoon phase right now, some of us unfortunately don't rebound as well in the face of Bounty Law accusations on the owner which we find very credible and likely true. Add in the fact they fire you in Miami when you go 8-1 down the stretch and even if M&M manages to find a little success, who is to say they won't fire him just as easily? it didn't save Brian Flores' job down here. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Under the watchful eye of Owner Stephen Ross

Combined record of Tony Sporano(Last 5 weeks), Brian Flores(Last 9 weeks), Interim Coach Todd Bowles(3 weeks)...

12-3...that's almost an entire season with a 1-Seed in the Playoffs 

Anyone really not believe Brian Flores? "He Said He Said" is calling Flores a liar. Already press rumors Ross says it was just a joke and misinterpreted...uh huh. 

This one's for @SwampDawg 

 

[SoBeDad]

McDaniel was a little choppy in the introductory press conference from a public speaking perspective. Comes across as authentic, likeable. Will call plays, with input from coaches. He praised the defense, but interestingly not the offense. Will work with Grier on player personnel. Hopefully, together the decisions on offense personnel will be better. Nothing about coaches. Time will tell.

No Q&A for Ross & Grier. Of course, this is not the time.

 

[SwampDawg]

Under the watchful eye of Owner Stephen Ross

Combined record of Tony Sporano(Last 5 weeks), Brian Flores(Last 9 weeks), Interim Coach Todd Bowles(3 weeks)...

12-3...that's almost an entire season with a 1-Seed in the Playoffs 

Anyone really not believe Brian Flores? "He Said He Said" is calling Flores a liar. Already press rumors Ross says it was just a joke and misinterpreted...uh huh. 

This one's for @SwampDawg 

1-15, Sparano (1st 9 weeks), Flores (1st 8 weeks)....Good enough to get Andrew Luck or Joe Burrow as your QB instead of Ryan Tannehill or Tua.  Maybe if either one of them would have kept their eye on the long term game they would had a long tenor as coach with a stud QB. And I'm not saying they had to outright throw games, just don't go out of your way to try and win and turn it around.  It didn't seem to hurt the Colts (2-14) or Bengals (2-14) who turned around franchises with those QB's.