TripleThreat
Footballguy
An attorney’s thoughts in a thread
https://twitter.com/saucesconfirm/status/1488664689043251203?s=21
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2025 Miami Dolphins - 1-6, Currently hold the #2 pick in the draft. (11 Viewers)
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You should also post it in the other thread. It would clarify the discussion there.
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
My local sports radio afternoon show was talking about it. From the little I heard:
Supposedly Elway and the Bronco FO staff showed up drunk and/or hungover to his interview with them in 2019.
Think there was a specific grievance against another team as well.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
If this forces Ross to sell, I’ll erect the statue of Flores outside the stadium myself 
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Harbaugh to MIN while we still talking about a disgruntled ex coach is the Dolphin way. Ross is an incompetent senile old fool - a complete cluster****If this forces Ross to sell, I’ll erect the statue of Flores outside the stadium myself
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'd love to actShankopotamus said:
and hurt by this but it sounds pretty much as we have discussed around here for years, this idiot has no business running/owning an NFL team and I hope Flores takes them all down with him. He is suing the NFL and he's likely to win but his future or coaching in the NFL is likely over I would imagine. Where would he be welcome now?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
They are discussing criminal investigations into him offering $100k per loss to Flores.If this forces Ross to sell, I’ll erect the statue of Flores outside the stadium myself
Seemed to be working, Miami started off 0-7 but if true, sure seems like he is FIXING games and maybe the fans would like to get their money back.
In Ross' defense we would now have Joe Burrow or would Grier have still taken Tua at No 1 overall?
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Wouldn’t matter. Burrow would suck here. So would Herbert. David Carr 2.0 behind the O-line we’ve had the past few years. We ruin everything.They are discussing criminal investigations into him offering $100k per loss to Flores.
Seemed to be working, Miami started off 0-7 but if true, sure seems like he is FIXING games and maybe the fans would like to get their money back.
In Ross' defense we would now have Joe Burrow or would Grier have still taken Tua at No 1 overall?
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Without getting into the particulars here; I still don’t get it. So Ross decides after Gase that the best course of action is to tear it all down, suck, and then rebuild from the ground up. He then obviously interviewed a coach and likely told him the plan, to suck, and then rebuild from the ground up. The coach agrees with this and gets hired and then, what, at some point changes his mind and starts trying to not suck? Even though his contract was fully guaranteed and I’m sure the blueprint was laid out for him before he took the job?
sounds like in the middle of this Flo started caring only about Flo. Good riddance. Fwiw Ross was correct in his assessment and plan here. The bengals beat him to it for being willing to suck more. (Burrow had a terrible o line last year and not much better this year so who knows what happens behind miamis bad o line)
sounds like in the middle of this Flo started caring only about Flo. Good riddance. Fwiw Ross was correct in his assessment and plan here. The bengals beat him to it for being willing to suck more. (Burrow had a terrible o line last year and not much better this year so who knows what happens behind miamis bad o line)
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Someone needs to bump the 2019 Miami thread and let's zone in on about Week 8-9, my recollection is a couple folks were bummed they were winning games but many were delighted to see marked improvement and immediately made us all respect Brian Flores.
Go back to 2019, we were doing it the Patriots-way here and none of us were upset with losing in 2019 and most of us were in shock during 2020 but we also felt along the way to those 10 Wins that Fitzpatrick was the real reason we were winning a lot of those games.
Go back to 2019, we were doing it the Patriots-way here and none of us were upset with losing in 2019 and most of us were in shock during 2020 but we also felt along the way to those 10 Wins that Fitzpatrick was the real reason we were winning a lot of those games.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Yeah, but alot of us also wondered why we were throwing Fitz out there instead of Rosen to 1) See if Rosen was any good and 2) to Tank for Tua as it were.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
There is some merit in the root of your thoughts, however I doubt he told Flores he was going to lose EVERY GAME in 2019 on the 1st interview, maybe during the season he eluded to continue losing and then when Miami showed signs of life, maybe Ross stepped up and tried to FIX the games at that point???
-You can't hitch your wagon to Ross right now IMHO
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Time to get comfortable with Mike McDaniel.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Reports saying the Vikings are going with the Rams OC not Harbaugh, is he back in play?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Harbaugh turned down Vikes and announced his return or that he was coming back to Michigan and I assume it was to put a scare into them and get a huge extension since I think he took a pay cut recently since he wasn't making the Playoffs.
TripleThreat is right about this turkey from San Fran, what a complete disaster.
Philbin was the QB coach in Green Bay, not even the OC and he was a total disaster with no command of the locker room and we ended up in Bullygate
McDaniel is a reformed alcoholic who hides behind SHanahan in the offense, who knows what this McDaniel actually is masterminding over there and San Fran did little to nothing on Offense during their Playoff run
Absolutely a total ZERO after waiting around 3-4 weeks and getting passed on by everyone, we get this loser who is going to tell us how much better life will be at the Press Conference, Why even have one or introduce this guy? The press/media should tie every question into the $100k bounty and the Flores lawsuit and why he chose to come here...just hammer down that he was about the last guy they could get to walk into the building.
What a sham hiring if they end up with McDaniel and then try and praise him.
Ross does not like to hire strong leaders, he got one with Flores but he became "rigid" and was fired not based on merit.
Are we going to hold McDaniel responsible based on "merit" or how many lollipops he passes around at team meetings?
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Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
not hitching to anything to be quite honest. Just looking at it through the lens of what likely occurred vs what is being alleged. Listen, owners, coaches, players, etc aren’t dumb or better said any dumber than the rest of us. Most of us wanted the phins to bottom out and reload and we loved the tunsil trade, the tank for Tua, and to a much lesser extent the second trade w the Steelers w minkah. I’m sure Ross, Grier, and even Flo we’re on board at some point (the Steelers game w that terrible defensive call was likely the turning point). Flo seems to have had second thoughts after that game and who knows why, but therein lies the fractured relationship.Ministry of Pain said:
now, setting aside race (bc I do not think race entered into the dolphins side of things): Adam gase: 3 years w Miami. 23-25, no playoffs and not interested in the owners vision for the team FIRED. Brian Flores: 3 years w Miami 24-25 no playoffs and not interested in owners vision for the team: ALSO FIRED. Locker room was also divided with both coaches and their personalities seemed to be similar in terms of how they felt about certain players.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Reports are harbaugh came in expecting to be anointed and was unhappy when it turns out it was a job interview, so he’s going back to Michigan. I don’t think Ross dips the toe in there especially now w the lawsuit. Maybe next year?
as for McDaniel: wow MOP, surprised you’d go this hard against a guy who by all accounts seems to be a solid hire (unspectacular but solid). I agree that it may be difficult to see how a “teaching and X’s and O’s“ kind of coach can be a “leader of men” but I’m also a firm believer in when other smart men think you are smart (and a load of coaches and players have praised him) there maybe something there. The real question is this: new HC always suffer through growing pains.
At this time, with a possible change in ownership and the GM, and the possibility of losing draft picks, we can't be choosey about our head coach. I'd even consider offering the position to DC Boyer who did a good job, along with Flores, with the defense. And then offer the OC job to the best oline coach out there.
Considering what he had to work with on the oline, RBs, and Tua, I think Godsey did a decent job. Especially in getting Waddle involved in the offense. But, all signs point to Mike McDaniel, who might be good with Xs and Os and analytics on offense, but can he command a team, especially during bad times like Flores did every single year.
Considering what he had to work with on the oline, RBs, and Tua, I think Godsey did a decent job. Especially in getting Waddle involved in the offense. But, all signs point to Mike McDaniel, who might be good with Xs and Os and analytics on offense, but can he command a team, especially during bad times like Flores did every single year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
There are many different visions or interpretations of what transpired or unfolded and I am going to roll with the 58-page legal document that was filed which says very plainly that Ross offered a $100k bounty, do you have any thoughts on that?
David Hyde has called for him to sell or relinquish control of the team, that's the Dolphins writer for the Ft Laud/Sun-Sentinel so we have a prominent member of the local media there calling for his head basically. Do you support that type of ownership change? In light of these new allegations and the many other debacles where Ross has been at the center of the problems going back to Richie Incognito-Bullygate, would you support him being asked to sell the team?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Been in the room with a lot of smarties over my years and there's a pattern with a lot of them, many times they lack common sense and that is what typically leads to these growing pains you are speaking of. Even if he's the next Bill Belichick, that makes us Cleveland in that story arc, fun fun.
-I can hear the Defense now, "get me out of here"
By the time he fixes the offense so they can score 24 points is about when that Defense will start allowing 30 per game and we have to go out and try to find a more defensive minded coach.
We've been over this with how Ross cuts the coach, keeps the GM, cuts the GM keeps the coach and these half measures go on and on and now we have perhaps our best chance to run Stephen Ross out of South Florida and...do I have to put on war paint like Gibson and ride a horse thru Hard Rock?
Ross is total evil, he tried to FIX NFL games where people were gambling, you're initial reaction Gatorman and I can easily find it but I think you felt Ross was smart trying to push Miami closer to the No 1 pick, hard to disagree with you in theory but not the way he tried to change outcomes of NFL games as the OWNER with his hands in gambling investments, that's not good.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
1) Haven't read the complaint, but my understanding is most of it is about NFL hiring practices, which again, has nothing to do with the Dolphins.
2) David Hyde is a hack. Sorry. I do not read him or honestly care about his opinion and outside of Barry Jackson or Omar Kelly, there is no one in the print media (Covering the dolphins) at this point worth reading. Matt Infante and a lot of the digital guys are much better.
3) Would I support an ownership change: Yes I would, but I also have no idea who the guy is "behind" ross that is first in line for the sale.
4) Finally: The only NFL owner forced to sell his team was I think the guy in Carolina for sexual misconduct and racism. Ross has done neither of those things and if Snyder wasn't forced to sell after what happened in Washington I don't see how the NFL will compel Ross to do anything (other than perhaps a monetary fine and loss of draft picks which hurt us the fan but his bottom line not at all). Moreover, my understanding of Mr. Ross is correct (don't know the man, but do know people who interact with him) he could give two figs what anyone thinks and he will do what he wants. We, as fans, just have to live with that.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Skip Bayless has called for Ross to sell the team, national media pundit, lots of folks listen to him and Sharpe even if it's infrequently until major news stories like this unfold.
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Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Ugh. ok. Not going to do this but suffice to say I'd love to see an ownership change for a lot of reasons down here and if this is the straw that causes that then that works for me. I've said this before but I think of all the people with money real estate guys are likely the dumbest of the bunch. Looking at Dolphin ownership there was really one owner that was "good" and that was Wayne Huzingua. Joe Robbie was ok mainly bc he hired shula and got out of the way.
The best owner for The Dolphins is likely the best sports owner in Florida and that is Mickey Arison, but a lot of that has to do with Pat Riley and "Heat Culture". In My dream world, Pat Riley is named Czar of South Florida sports and turns all of the floundering teams down here into a version of the Miami Heat.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
I'm all for a change in ownership, I think Ross is that in between owner. He's not Jerry Jones or the Rooney's that actually understand the game and it is their biggest thing so they can be hands on and effective. He also isn't the type of owner like Kraft that sits back and lets the football people handle all the decisions and only gets involved when really needed. He is in-between and that doesn't work.
That said while at first I wasn't on board with firing Flores I'm glad they did now because this guy is an #####. He pulled this stuff with the Dolphins into his lawsuit because he knew it would get more eyes on it and he wants to burn Ross and Grier. Regardless of your opinion on the Rooney rule and if his suit on the hiring practices is justified there is no connection to his firing from the Dolphins. He has almost an identical record to the coach before him who was also let go after 3 years. Flores would have to be an idiot to not have seen the plan was going to be strip the team down and rebuild. He, a first time head coach with very little experience even as a coordinator was given a 5 year guaranteed contract? Only reason you do that is you know the first few years are going to be rough and you want the coach ok with taking the hit on the record. This is my gut feel on what happened:
So looking at Ross's point of view Flores did the exact opposite of what they asked him to the second half of the 2019 season and wouldn't "talk" to Brady. They missed out on two star QB's and Flores after 3 years has shown to be a disaster at putting together a staff especially on the offensive side so they fired him. At the time it didn't make a lot of sense but if you piece it all together it does. The mistake they made is they should have done it after the Jacksonville loss and no one would have disagreed.
That said while at first I wasn't on board with firing Flores I'm glad they did now because this guy is an #####. He pulled this stuff with the Dolphins into his lawsuit because he knew it would get more eyes on it and he wants to burn Ross and Grier. Regardless of your opinion on the Rooney rule and if his suit on the hiring practices is justified there is no connection to his firing from the Dolphins. He has almost an identical record to the coach before him who was also let go after 3 years. Flores would have to be an idiot to not have seen the plan was going to be strip the team down and rebuild. He, a first time head coach with very little experience even as a coordinator was given a 5 year guaranteed contract? Only reason you do that is you know the first few years are going to be rough and you want the coach ok with taking the hit on the record. This is my gut feel on what happened:
- They sign Flores to the longer contract and he knows the plan is to burn it down in 2019 to go after the QB (like most they are probably thinking Tua at the start of the year but that switches to Burrow after the Tua injury and his amazing year)
- Sometime in 2019 Flores has a change in heart, maybe he gets heat from his agent and friends, maybe he doesn't like the press he is reading, maybe he wants to show off how good his defense can be, I'm not sure. But I believe he had a change in heart and he rallies the team and starts winning games. Ross very well might have offered him a bonus or whatever to continue on the plan. What Ross and Grier should have done is told him you will keep starting Rosen and released Fitz if needed but that would have been tough after he won a few games.
- 2019 ends and thanks to the turn around Miami isn't going to get the run away #1prospect in Burrow. Ross tries to make a deal to move up and can't and the team now needs to decide Tua or Herbert, neither the QB they really want.
- Before 2020 officially starts and knowing Brady is likely leaving New England Ross sees a chance to maybe bring Brady in because of a connection with Flores and have the GOAT for a few years while Tua develops and heels. Flores balks at this tampering.
- Fast forward to 2021, Brady turns the Bucs around and wins the super bowl to start the year. Burrow comes back from injury and leads the Bengals to the promised land to finish the year. Ross is likely fuming the two QB's he wanted have all this success while Flores can't put a decent offensive staff together and seems to be at odds with half his assistants.
- Ross has had enough of Flores and fires him, not because of his record but because he didn't do what was asked in 2019 and since then he can't get an offensive staff together.
- Flores goes burnt earth after realizing he is a pawn in the Giants plan to hire Daboll.
So looking at Ross's point of view Flores did the exact opposite of what they asked him to the second half of the 2019 season and wouldn't "talk" to Brady. They missed out on two star QB's and Flores after 3 years has shown to be a disaster at putting together a staff especially on the offensive side so they fired him. At the time it didn't make a lot of sense but if you piece it all together it does. The mistake they made is they should have done it after the Jacksonville loss and no one would have disagreed.
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TripleThreat
Footballguy
@SwampDawg I'm glad you typed all that out because it's remarkably similar to my thoughts, thank you.
It's doubtful the next headcoach will be 4-2 versus Belichick. 1-1 versus Brady, 1-1 versus Cam, 2-0 versus Mac. Flores coached two of the most exciting regular season victories in Dolphin history, the Fitzmagic comeback miracle throw versus the Raiders and the win versus Brady in his last regular season game with the Pats. Examples that you need good QB play to win.
I wonder if there will be any legal discovery that sheds light related to QBs. Were both Flores and Grier on board with Tua over Herbert? Who wanted Josh Rosen for a 2nd round pick, when we were the only bidder? Who wanted to bench Fitzmagic in 2020, but play him over Rosen in 2019. Who was pushing for Watson?
I wonder if there will be any legal discovery that sheds light related to QBs. Were both Flores and Grier on board with Tua over Herbert? Who wanted Josh Rosen for a 2nd round pick, when we were the only bidder? Who wanted to bench Fitzmagic in 2020, but play him over Rosen in 2019. Who was pushing for Watson?
TripleThreat
Footballguy
McDaniel has been in my top two, he and Daboll.
I'm hopeful the Dolphins "don't let him leave the building" and Moore bows out.
I'm hopeful the Dolphins "don't let him leave the building" and Moore bows out.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
In case any of you don't venture over to the Flores thread where I posted this.
I also think he (Flores) is a bit hypocritical. I'm not saying he is wrong about the Rooney rules enforcement being somewhat of a sham but I question how much he follows the practice himself. A quick review of some 2021 coaching staffs:
Brian Flores/Dolphins - 5 African Americans
Bill Belichick/Patriots - 7 African Americans
Kyle Shanahan/49ers - 9 African Americans
Sean McVay/Rams - 10 African Americans
Bruce Arians/Bucs - 12 African Americans + 2 women
Mike Tomlin/Steelers - 8 African Americans
I randomly picked those teams because I wanted two young white head coaches, two old white coaches and the one remaining black head coach. I didn't cherry pick them, if someone else wants to break down the entire league go ahead but it seems that Flores actually gives less chances to minorities on his staff then the average NFL team. I think everyone would agree his teams best side of the ball was on defense and he brought Josh Boyer (a white guy) from New England that he knew in for that position. How many minorities did he interview for that hire? Did he seriously consider them or did he know who his guy was when he was hired?
I also think he (Flores) is a bit hypocritical. I'm not saying he is wrong about the Rooney rules enforcement being somewhat of a sham but I question how much he follows the practice himself. A quick review of some 2021 coaching staffs:
Brian Flores/Dolphins - 5 African Americans
Bill Belichick/Patriots - 7 African Americans
Kyle Shanahan/49ers - 9 African Americans
Sean McVay/Rams - 10 African Americans
Bruce Arians/Bucs - 12 African Americans + 2 women
Mike Tomlin/Steelers - 8 African Americans
I randomly picked those teams because I wanted two young white head coaches, two old white coaches and the one remaining black head coach. I didn't cherry pick them, if someone else wants to break down the entire league go ahead but it seems that Flores actually gives less chances to minorities on his staff then the average NFL team. I think everyone would agree his teams best side of the ball was on defense and he brought Josh Boyer (a white guy) from New England that he knew in for that position. How many minorities did he interview for that hire? Did he seriously consider them or did he know who his guy was when he was hired?
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Skip Bayless knows nothing other than how to give a hot take.
I don’t like Ross and think he is bad for the NFL, but pointing to Bayless as someone whose argument we should take seriously is not a good move.
>>Sources: Miami is working on a deal with 49ers’ OC Mike McDaniel to be their next head coach.<<
Hopefully, Boyer stays as DC and Garropolo goes elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1490460967792041986?s=20&t=6OW_gUdvTe-2QpqExx1Zhg
Hopefully, Boyer stays as DC and Garropolo goes elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1490460967792041986?s=20&t=6OW_gUdvTe-2QpqExx1Zhg
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Just heard on the radio that Adam Shafter is saying this is a done deal. The 49ers would get two third round compensatory picks.
as a 49ers fan, I have to say it is shocking to see this guy get a head coach job with one season as OC of a team where Shanahan is reportedly calling the plays.
The fact that the 49ers just got Anthony Lynn seems to be the difference between a good football team and a bad football team. just….wow. Now Lynn can be the 49ers offensive coordinator and they don’t miss a beat.
meanwhile, Miami gets a huge question mark. stunning.
I wonder what Eric Bieniemy is thinking watching this all go down.
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I think that's 5 3rd round comp picks for the 49ers in 2 years due to the RR. Miami's defense hopefully will be the same, McDaniel's success will depend on improving one of the worst olines in recent NFL history. And on Tua getting better. It's is a surprise hire preceded by a surprise fire. If he can help Grier with personnel on the offense, the Dolphins might get better. Lots of cap space.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I don’t disagree with your points, but I have no idea what McDaniel is capable of doing.
if the criticism of Eric Bieniemy is that Andy Reid was really the play callee in Kansas City, at least he had multiple seasons doing it.
mcDaniel carried Shanahan‘s clipboard for one season.
I wish McDaniel luck… He’s sure going to need it in that organization.
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As expected, on SM many people are asking for proof that he's biracial. Not a bad first job from the POV that the DC will hopefully stay and the GM is in place.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
All I’m wondering now is whether or not we can get a first or second round pick from Miami for Jimmy G..
NOOOOO. Reports were that the 49ers were asking for a 2nd, or 3rd and a piece. I think Miami should draft a QB every year until they get it right, and see if Tua gets better in 2022. We have 2 1st rounders in 2023.All I’m wondering now is whether or not we can get a first or second round pick from Miami for Jimmy G..
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Perfect! They can send one to SF for Jimmy G!
(when it happens, you will have my sympathies.)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
being reported as 2x 3rd round compensatory picks.
https://twitter.com/devil_dz2/status/1490474823075569667?s=10
2 more comp picks for Saleh and 1 for another guy. I think it's a total of 5. For Saleh & McDaniel it's two 3rd round picks in consecutive years. LMK what the SF media says. It partially makes up for the trade up for Lance.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Why is that relevant?
Do you envision him as a guy who kicks and screams every time a new head coach is hired?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh, ok, now I see what you’re saying. sorry, i’d misunderstood. You’re saying total picks - I was just talking about this deal.
We’re on the same page now. I believe you’re correct. 5 total over 2 years for coaches. Got it!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not hardly. If I did, I’m perfectly capable of typing that sentence myself, thanks.
To state the obvious, it is relevant because they are both OCs, and both have the singular knock on them that they’re essentially 2nd fiddle to the HCs on their respective teams.
Bieniemy has been looking for a HC gig for some time, while McDaniel spent just 1 season under Shanahan.
Seems both fair & relevant to wonder about.
>>He comes from the NFL’s hottest coaching tree. The 2013 offensive coaching staff for the team now known as the Washington Commanders was already legendary, with San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan as the offensive coordinator, Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay as the tight ends coach and Green Bay Packers coach Matt LaFleur as the quarterbacks coach. Now they can add one more former assistant to the list of coaches produced because McDaniel was the wide receivers coach for Washington in 2013. One of those three coaches has led their team to a Super Bowl appearance in three of the last four years and McVay has a chance to win a title next Sunday when his Rams take on the Cincinnati Bengals in Super Bowl 56.<<
Who is Mike McDaniel? Five things to know about the Miami Dolphins’ new head coach
Who is Mike McDaniel? Five things to know about the Miami Dolphins’ new head coach
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Add McDaniel to this ongoing list of "Coordinators" from one side or the other that never pan out here.
Hit rate on these assistants...wanna guess?
7%
Sporano(Terrible on Offense)-Philbin(QB Coach, never called plays...remember that)-Gase(OC wonder boy, not so much)-Flores(Defensive minded, "Rigid")
Par for the course, there's nothing you can say or point to that screams he will be any different, it's a complete shot in the dark and hopefully he's not too rigid and I bet he should be replaced inside of 2 season but Ross will drag it out over 3-4 just to try and save face.
They coulda hired McDaniel immediately if he was their top choice and the reality is they got whoever would walk in the building amidst this newest scandal they've gotten themselves into.
I'm shocked any of you get the least bit interested and excited when they hire a new face. Flores was a 180 from everyone else that walked in here and they couldn't stand that he was a hard ### and they fired him. I pretty much give up on them ever righting the ship at this point.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Disagree with the first part but likely agree with the second part.
mcdaniel was in the playoff hunt until a week ago so while he was likely the front runner (except for maybe harbaugh but that seemed like a long shot) which is why they didn’t go hard after Daboll. I’m pretty sure once the crap hit the fan w the Flores lawsuit he was even a bigger front runner bc of his being biracial.
now the word on the street is that fangio may come with to be dc. Either that or they retain Boyle. Wes welker mentioned as well, but he’d likely need to become OC bc he is the wr coach at SF. (I think part of the delay was also get a preliminary view of what his staff would look like but that’s just a rumor)
as for the second part: yeah, I’m jaded now too. MM seems like a great fit and is an up and coming coach but yeah, no one else out there was looking at him and we’ve seen too many of these guys over the past, what 20 years now. That being said, I like the guy and he seems like the right type of NFL guy but until I see the staff, specifically the OL coach and what they actually do with this oline in the offseason before I get too jumpy.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I can see the logic of the move for sure. The story of an OC who learned the magic of Shanahan to create dominant running games is very appealing. Jimmy G did just make a conference final with that offense.
I don't believe it, but it is a good story.
Honestly, Miami is lucky he took the job. They are clearly a very poorly run franchise. Ross has more scandals than playoff wins.
I don't believe it, but it is a good story.
Honestly, Miami is lucky he took the job. They are clearly a very poorly run franchise. Ross has more scandals than playoff wins.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
15 different teams have interviewed him for their head coaching job over the last few years and he rarely gets a second interview.
