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2025 Miami Dolphins - Week 2; Time to burn it down? (34 Viewers)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Mostert-WIlson
Achane
That's your starting 3 RBs in Miami, Wilson is the back up to Mostert
Achance will likely be a 3rd down RB, change of pace, still expect him to see 10-12 touches early in the season
Ahmed and Brooks, one of them if not both will be inactive most weeks
Achane
That's your starting 3 RBs in Miami, Wilson is the back up to Mostert
Achance will likely be a 3rd down RB, change of pace, still expect him to see 10-12 touches early in the season
Ahmed and Brooks, one of them if not both will be inactive most weeks
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Right. But it’s the same with Penny and I’m banking on him not getting injured either though. I don’t know lol.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Mostert-31 yrs old, last year was the most carries he's ever had over an entire season, 181 carries. 137/2019.
The odds are not in our favor that an injury riddled career back up can make it another year as the primary starter but that only amounted to about 10-12 carries a game.
Mostert did miss at least 1 game, and started 14 out of 17.
Jeff WIlson-Turns 28 in November, key stat difference between he and Mostert is the success rate of their carries. Thngs like getting 4 yds on 1st down, all the yds needed on 3rd down, and so forth, WIlson clocks in at 47%, Mostert is over 55%, so Raheem is more efficient as a RB and that will limit what WIlson is asked to do. Right now I would think it's 1 out of every 3 drives he gets featured, Wilson and Mostert not the best at catching passes. Which bring us to RB3.
Devon Achane- 21 yr old Rookie RB, reminds this guy a lot of Warrick Dunn, I know he will be worked in slowly but McDaniel has had his eye on Achane for a long time, think there will be a definite plan and come the 2nd Half of the season, I think we will see more and more of Achane but I don't see a guy that will make his living between the Tackles, he needs space to operate and this offense is designed for that.
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Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I agree with the concept that Achane was the guy they picked because they didn't bring a "new" RB in to the fold (as they inquired about Jacobs, Cook, and Saquon before the draft), but the fact they did make an offer to Cook and then got involved in the JT bidding makes me think that they aren't 100% locked in on him as a bell cow. Now, part of that could be they have championship aspirations and don't want to put it all on a rookie, but it does make it a hard room to decipher.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Hoping to sneak him onto the PS is what I heard. Offense plays per game… 22, 17, 4
Julian Hill is quite a story. Homeless early, adopted in late adolescence. Hard worker. Checkout some of his pancake blocks. He might be our best combo TE, blocking & receiving. Higgins looked good as a downfield receiver. But the TE coach raved about Hill's blocking.
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TripleThreat
Footballguy
Barry Jackson tweet
As @HolderStephen reported, Packers were mystery bidder for Jonathan Taylor, besides the Dolphins. And can confirm through Dolphins person, as reported by Indy media, that Colts made wild requests from Miami, including Waddle & more.
WILD
As @HolderStephen reported, Packers were mystery bidder for Jonathan Taylor, besides the Dolphins. And can confirm through Dolphins person, as reported by Indy media, that Colts made wild requests from Miami, including Waddle & more.
WILD
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Didn't happen tho going to AZ
We lost our 6th and 7th round picks, WR/TE Higgins and the OT Ryan Hayes to claims from other teams. We had injured players who had to be placed on the 53. And 3 QBs, and 5 RBs, maybe Achane won't be ready for the opener. They value Chris Brooks more than Higgins. We presumably can pickup a 3rd TE if we need one.
greedygoat
Footballguy
Irsay/Colts even bigger idiots than I thought if they thought Waddle was a going to be a part of the deal.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Irsay must be back on the sauce if he thought that was happening.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Colts moving up the rankings of worst franchise lately.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Waddle was never coming back, not ever
Irsay is trying to punish Taylor and put him in his place, nobody will punish Irsay for doing it either.
Won't pay Taylor but won't trade him for anything less than ridiculous draft picks and players.
They might franchise tag him just out of spite next year
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Amen
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I've maintained from the beginning that their only goal was to demonstrate to Taylor that there was no market for him so he would have to come crawling back. Of course, if you only entertain ridiculous offers, that's kind of self-defeating. There clearly was a market for Taylor, although we don't know if it was realistic
General Malaise
Footballguy
Huh.....so Miami fans don't like it when they get ridiculous trade offers involving their super stars? Weird.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
GM, no one does, but this is a differetn animal than what you are up in arms about.
1) No one thinks Taylor is worth a 1 other than the colts. they won't pay him as "someone worth a 1" but no one offerred them a high pick for Taylor
2) Waddle is one of the top 4 or 5 young WRs in the game. JJ, Chase, Wilson, the Slim Reaper and then likely waddle
3) Miami's package for Lilliard isn't a lowball offer. Herro and 3 first round picks is only a "bad" offer bc Portland doesn't need Herro and those picks are likely in the twenties. Also, Waddle isn't disgruntled. If Miami figures out a way to give Portland 4 1st rounders then Dame will be in Miami ASAP.
Here is another take. Miami is in a negotiation with Christian Wilkins and they received calls on him bc of the impass. I'm sure if Wilkins wanted out Miami would have made a move, but he wants to play in Miami and is going to play on his rookie deal. Contrast that with them getting rid of Minkah Fitzpatrick when he didn't want to play for them. They gave away a pro-bowler for just one 1st round pick. Being disgruntled lowers anyones asking price the same way you denting your car makes it worth less than it being in pristine condition.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You wouldn't understand 305'ers
General Malaise
Footballguy
My man, I'm just looking for humor in life wherever I can find it. Right now, Miami fan is providing that for me. Thank you.
In all honesty, the dynasty league I play in that I care about the most has Tua as my pilot, so I'm all in on the Fins. Tua is my boy.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Keeping five RBs, that will be fun for fantasy. Thought Chris Brooks looked great running ball, but he has a ladder to climb to get on the field.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Not that I'm a Heat fan, but interesting that Dame is getting paid a cool $40mm more than Taylor this year.
Todem
Footballguy
My condolences on that. Tua is a unicorn down here and the teams front office and media PR team has a large part of the fanbase brainwashed into thinking he will make it through an NFL season and he was the better pick over Justin Herbert.
Imagine this Dolphins team if in 2020 they took Herbert and Taylor instead of Tua and Iggabust.
Oh god…..it drives me to drinking.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I think Miami definitely should have included Waddle in a package for a RB. Throw in Tyreek if that's what it takes to get the deal done.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
T-Shirt to own and march into SoFi opening week
2020 NFL Draft
Phins-1.05 Tua
Bolts- 1.06 Herbert
General Malaise
Footballguy
That's what organizations that are F'n over their players do, Desert Power.
Mostert. Achane and Ahmed still have time to get healthy. Brooks looked very good in the preseason, so stay tuned.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Achane is going to be a star.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
They just extended Ingold for another 3 years.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Played on 40% of the Off snaps last year
Also 30% of the Special Teams snaps
3 yrs/$17.2M...wow and they couldn't find the money to sign D.Cook and it required no draft capital
Stunning to me
Todem
Footballguy
Made of glass
Todem
Footballguy
Maybe he did not fit into the culture…..then again they took a chance on Chosen who is a total cancer
Todem
Footballguy
I think he can be an explosive weapon if used properly.
I don’t see bell cow….I see more of a Metcalf (Browns in the 90’s). He does have Warrick Dunn in him too….but Dunn was a special kid coming out…..can’t measure that heart. And Warrick was ****ing strong for his size.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Only 6 mil guaranteed over the next 3 years. I believe only 3 teams actually use a FB . . . MIA, SF & BAL.
Anything to help the Oline if good for me. Think this also shows more of a commitment to running the ball more this year.
Love Ingold . . .
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwnhGYGAqwp/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
General Malaise
Footballguy
Runs a 4.3 and averaged 6.4 YPC in the mighty SEC. Add in his pass catching ability and I'm not sure why he isn't being talked about more as THE GUY in Miami. Mostert has rarely stayed healthy and is getting long in the tooth. Put me in the pro-Achane camp.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Agreed.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Love the resigning of Ingold...
Watched Chris Brooks tape again...looks really good to my eye. That should the shortyard combo
Watched Chris Brooks tape again...looks really good to my eye. That should the shortyard combo
Todem
Footballguy
I loved the pick. But tell me…..how many “bell cows” are in the league anymore?
Yes he is our best RB…..and he will be explosive. I am not sure what else we can say.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miami cut Elijah Higgins, 5 teams put a claim in for him off waivers, wow! (no other player had more than 2 claims)
That seems like another short sighted move by Coach MM and Grier
9-9 in 2022...McDaniel takes over a team that was 19-15 before he arrived
9-8 in 2021
10-7 in 2020
The bar hasn't moved that much despite a lot of moves
That seems like another short sighted move by Coach MM and Grier
9-9 in 2022...McDaniel takes over a team that was 19-15 before he arrived
9-8 in 2021
10-7 in 2020
The bar hasn't moved that much despite a lot of moves
Todem
Footballguy
QB……..yeah.
The Dolphins put out lots of good tape on Chris Brooks during games 2 & 3. It was part of the evaluation process and he showed lots of ability between the tackles, breaking tackles, and catching. And he's 230 pounds, slippery and 4.6 for a big back, and could be RB #2 in 2024 when Miami needs to save $. He's probably better at pass blocking than Ahmed. He could be GL back in 2023, but I think Mostert, who gained 10 lbs in the off-season has that role initially. If Brooks plays special teams, he could be active on game day. With J Wilson out for 4+ weeks, Brooks may get a chance.
Elijah Higgins only had 2 catches in preseason, both in game 1. A nice comeback catch and run on a scrambling QB play and another play also showing YAC. He can catch, blocking was a work-in-progress. I think they tried to hide him, but obviously it failed, claimed by 5 teams! UDFA Julian Hill also was the more complete TE, great blocking on run plays and good catch and YAC ability ... Gesicki, a good athlete, somehow provided little YAC.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Is it me or it MOP more negative this year than past years?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I think if you ask most in here, they'll tell you I've been pretty good about getting on board with the fans but I also have some reservations.
You might have seen where I posted the record of Mike McDaniel last year, that's just the facts.
I'm not a believer yet in this team, Tua at QB long term(best we got right now for sure) and I definitely do not see boy genius with Coach MM
-In fact, it was going to be Brady and Sean Payton, Coach McDaniel was not the first, second or even third guy they wanted to coach this team.
Meanwhile, many of the fans have gotten anointing oils out for Coach MM, I'm just not ready to accept that.
We had to go make Fangio the highest paid assistant coach because apparently McDaniel knows nothing about defense, he couldn't get a strong '21 Defense turned around in '22 with the same 11 returning on defense, hold on I'm not thru...and he also **** right in his headset at midfield on the road in Buffalo last year taking a 5 yard penalty on a 4th an 1 and then going for it on 4th and 6, that's genius right there.
So if I sound a little salty, let's start with the facts.
Good to see you Smack, thanks for letting me get that off my chest as we roll towards Week 1.
In accordance with @Ministry of Pain I agree that coach MM is still unproven. He potentially lost the BUF playoff game by not getting plays in on time. And he forgot about a decent run success on many short yardage plays. With Hill and Waddle, I could devise a good passing attack. But to his credit, Tua has a chance to be successful. I hope he succeeds, this year with a very tough AFC schedule is make or break for both Grier and Coach, IMO.
Todem
Footballguy
The entire season rides on the whole narrative of “Can Tua stay healthy all season”. And while that is the narrative of the other 31 teams in this league.......we have 3 seasons now of data on Tua in the NFL.
He does not stay healthy.
So please excuse my pessimism on that narrative. And our OL looks.....average at best. And that’s being nice.
So......it all starts at LA. We never play well on the west coast. So already we are behind the 8 ball.
Herbert vs Tua part 2.
We gotta start the season strong heading into Buffalo week 4. I am hopeful of a 2-1 start heading into week 4.
Chargers - Loss
Patriots - Win
Broncos - Win
I hope Achane can give it a go week 1. I am giddy about his prospects.
I want to be pleasantly surprised about Tua this season. We know in this offense he can be successful. He showed that last season. He needs to avoid heavy hits.....or we are done like dinner and will be looking for a new QB next season.
He does not stay healthy.
So please excuse my pessimism on that narrative. And our OL looks.....average at best. And that’s being nice.
So......it all starts at LA. We never play well on the west coast. So already we are behind the 8 ball.
Herbert vs Tua part 2.
We gotta start the season strong heading into Buffalo week 4. I am hopeful of a 2-1 start heading into week 4.
Chargers - Loss
Patriots - Win
Broncos - Win
I hope Achane can give it a go week 1. I am giddy about his prospects.
I want to be pleasantly surprised about Tua this season. We know in this offense he can be successful. He showed that last season. He needs to avoid heavy hits.....or we are done like dinner and will be looking for a new QB next season.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I think Miami is setting themselves up this year kind of perfectly. Tua's health is what hangs over this team like a cloud, but Miami has not (rightly) extended him at this point (unlike Herbert and Hurts).
So, two things happen here:
1) Tua finally puts together a full healthy season. In that case, Miami likely makes it to the playoffs and perhaps as far as the AFCC game with this roster.
2) Tua gets knocked out of games again. At that point, Miami will no be able to trust him, and with our "limited" draft capital and small window, we go vet QB chasing. In that case, Cousins seems to be the guy IMHO since shanny loves him and that likely means MM does too.
There is a third option where Tua stays healthy but our schedule is just enough to keep us from the playoffs. At that point, all bets are off.
