My gut says Dan Campbell will promote from within unless his top candidates leave to take a position with another team.
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2025 NFL Coaches on the hot seat & Front Office changes (4 Viewers)
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miqws
Footballguy
The 33rd Team
Mike Vrabel takes charge of a team with:
- Cornerstone young players in QB Drake Maye and CB Christian Gonzalez
- The No. 4 overall pick in the 2025 Draft
- The most projected cap space of any team in the league(about $125M)
Not a bad setup for Vrabel’s return to NE
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-OZ-
Footballguy
The Rooney Rule is a sham.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Hate to say it but there’s a good chance he’s in the Super Bowl before the titans.The 33rd Team
Mike Vrabel takes charge of a team with:
- Cornerstone young players in QB Drake Maye and CB Christian Gonzalez
- The No. 4 overall pick in the 2025 Draft
- The most projected cap space of any team in the league
Not a bad setup for Vrabel’s return to NEx.com
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Teams know they can treat it as such as long as the Brian Flores lawsuit remains unsettled. The NFL will do absolutely nothing to anyone who bends or flaunts the rules. Soon as they do, that becomes part of discovery and strengthens Flores case.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Anyway, congrats to Pats fans on the massive upgrade at HC. Now all they have to do is rebuild the roster.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
If they knew they wanted to hire Vrabel all along, what were they supposed to do ?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
NE had the most cap space in 2021 and 2024 to go along with 2025. We already know their drafts in recent seasons have left a lot to be desired. They haven't had much success in free agency either. Judon was solid and Henry has been decent, but they mostly spent hundreds of millions of dollars re-signing guys internally on a team that hasn't been very competitive. IMO, the front office has been the biggest issue for a team with no shortage of issues. Having a ton of cap room doesn't help much if players don't what to play for NE or if the team doesn't want to hand out big contracts. We'll see if that changes, but we've seen what they did to get into the big hole they're in . . . let's see if they do things any differently to get out of it.The 33rd Team
Mike Vrabel takes charge of a team with:
- Cornerstone young players in QB Drake Maye and CB Christian Gonzalez
- The No. 4 overall pick in the 2025 Draft
- The most projected cap space of any team in the league
Not a bad setup for Vrabel’s return to NEx.com
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Its probably more accurate to say they did sham interviews to comply with the Rooney rule, rather than to skirt it.
Agree with this and also @Anarchy99 comments on the front office being a trouble spot.
My take is that the Pats knew that the first Coach, post-Belichek would have practically no chance and that now there has been a buffer year before Vrabel. Still an uphill climb in the AFC East and it will be very interesting who the OC will be to see if Drake Maye can be that long-term viable QB.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Apparently Jerry and Mike could not come to terms on number of years in the contract. One year would seem generous.
www.cbssports.com
Cowboys, Mike McCarthy unable to reach agreement as head coach leaves after five seasons in Dallas
McCarthy and the Cowboys couldn't come to an agreement on a new deal
www.cbssports.com
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Exactly. The rule is intended to give minority candidates better access to opportunities. You can't force someone to have legitimate interest in every candidate but you can require they give it a shot. This is like telling your kid "I know you don't like ballet. I didn't either. But I already paid for three sessions so how about you just go to those three and after the third one we'll go to IHOP and brainstorm what to try next?". Maybe they hate ballet and never go back, maybe they make a friend along the way and that friend later gets them into soccer. Maybe just maybe they actually do like ballet and they keep at it. And hey, I get french toast with blueberry syrup regardless of the outcome.
Everyone's focusing on the wrong thing with these sham interviews though. There is a TON of value just getting the interview. Where the Patriots may have had zero intention of hiring a person (I don't know who they interviewed), it's possible that someone goes into one of them and totally blows it out of the water. Sure, NEP may still hire Vrabel, but two things happen out of that:
1. They get interview experience. This is a much bigger thing that people realize. You don't always do well. You get caught off guard, you forget one of your talking points, heck sometimes you just don't get a chance to get your answers in before the interviewer moves on to something else. Every interview, sham or not, is an opportunity to practice. It's interesting timing, I have been in my current position for 14 years and I'm currently putting starting a job search and I'm absolutely terrified at the thought of having to interview because it's been so long.
2. NEP personnel go to the combine, to owners' meetings, to awards ceremonies, and they talk to each other. "Hey, we interviewed Joe Schmoe, he was darn impressive. I didn't realize he had blah blah blah going for him."
3. NEP personnel remember impressive people. When the VP of Coffee gets fired and later ends up with a new team, they remember how impressive Joe Schmoe was and he's got a much improved leg up. People have long careers and longer memories. Elliott Wolf is a young hotshot NEP executive. He was likely in on the process. If he gets a GM job next year with the Browns, he's going to have a Rolodex that includes a couple of minorities he interviewed this year and those people (I really should look them up) might just start with an advantage there.
I've been on sham interviews. I've been told before than I didn't have a shot at the job. I'll still take every one I can get because I get exposure I wouldn't otherwise have gotten and I'll take them because I know I can change minds on them.
One interview I went into the manager opened with "I just wanted to be up front, we have made an offer to someone for this position already.". I said fine but since I'm here I'd like to get to know more about the company and opportunity (it was a small startup with new technology). We spent 3 hours, did tours, met people, the whole nine yards. I learned a ton about who they were and met some key people along them way. Two days later I got a call from them - "We've determined you are the best candidate and rescinded the other offer and the job is yours if you want it.". I found out later it wasn't the hiring manager's decision. The position was a Sales Engineer role and the Sales Managers I met loved me and forced his hand to pivot to me.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Not a single mention in that article on years.Apparently Jerry and Mike could not come to terms on number of years in the contract. One year would seem generous.
Cowboys, Mike McCarthy unable to reach agreement as head coach leaves after five seasons in Dallas
McCarthy and the Cowboys couldn't come to an agreement on a new deal
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
"We will make you the highest paid defensive coordinator in all the land if you sign with us.”
People actually talk like this?
People actually talk like this?
From someone not paying very close attention, things seem to be moving more slowly than usual on the head coaching hires. Are several teams focused on assistants still involved in the playoffs and all the retread interviews were insignificant?
zamboni
Footballguy
Seems like William the Conqueror took over as GM.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think that’s part of it - some of the desired hires can’t be tampered with. It may also be a supply/demand dynamic - lots of candidates out there and teams may feel like they don’t need to rush hire and miss out.
rockaction
Footballguy
This article was toons, man. A coaches’ union? Federal oversight of owner’s hiring decisions?
Toontown called and wants their paper back. Maybe these guys wrote it in disappearing ink, but I don’t think so, Mr. Acme.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Is this assuming a final interview equals a job offer? lol I guess the NFL has different levels and lengths for interviews but I assume that the job is his in each of these three teams if he wants it?x.com
-OZ-
Footballguy
As a titans and lions fan I hope he goes to Vegas. But I suspect he’ll be in Jax.Is this assuming a final interview equals a job offer? lol I guess the NFL has different levels and lengths for interviews but I assume that the job is his in each of these three teams if he wants it?x.com
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
This is odd. Is Ben going to flip a 3 sided coin to decide?Is this assuming a final interview equals a job offer? lol I guess the NFL has different levels and lengths for interviews but I assume that the job is his in each of these three teams if he wants it?x.com
Hankmoody
Footballguy
That's exactly what it will be.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Reported by whom? I've seen nothing picked up on this.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Raiders are set to interview Washington Commanders assistant general manager Lance Newmark for their open general manager role. Newmark worked alongside Johnson for several years in Detroit and has long been rumored to be Johnson's preferred general manager candidate to work alongside.
I see the appeal of getting a Sean Payton type coaching position.
I see the appeal of getting a Sean Payton type coaching position.
What is this compentent stuff in Raider land?
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