or he is on methYou posting at 5:30 AM Pacific Time on a Saturday morning reaffirms my notion that you don't actually live on the West Coast.But I guess there are always some who only read what they want so as to reaffirm pre-conceived notions.
never my intent. I'm out. Good night everyone.Great, another thread about Tim.
Yeah, and the one who has Div I-AA Heisman named after him: http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/College-award-named-for-former-Bear/c01984b6-be6e-42e5-b145-290d3669dbd2TenTimes said:The one who played for the Bears or whoever?DrJ said:The REAL Adrian Peterson is a way better father than this. Unfortunately his son has a rare brain tumor.
Its daytime.never my intent. I'm out. Good night everyone.Great, another thread about Tim.
That's a festering turd of a post, even for you.Do state laws pertain to how the Vikings will handle the situation? I mean Ben Roethlisberger raped a girl, sometimes a player is too value to release. The fact that Peterson wasn't outright released tells me there's a chance he will stick around.
You can't just start blackballing people. The fans want to see AP play, me at least. Vikings fans REALLY want him to play, they have no chance of the playoffs without him. Let's get him back on the field!
That's a festering turd of a post, even for you.Do state laws pertain to how the Vikings will handle the situation? I mean Ben Roethlisberger raped a girl, sometimes a player is too value to release. The fact that Peterson wasn't outright released tells me there's a chance he will stick around.
You can't just start blackballing people. The fans want to see AP play, me at least. Vikings fans REALLY want him to play, they have no chance of the playoffs without him. Let's get him back on the field!
I wish he would have dated Tim.Jim Brown would not have lasted a year in todays NFL. Brown beat the crap out of every woman he dated.You are the worst thing that has ever happened, ever.timschochet said:The tragic thing about this, beyond the story itself, is that Adrian Peterson is not just a star NFL running back. He may be the best running back ever. At the very least he has to be considered with the likes of Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.
If he never plays another down of football because of this incident, he's already well worthy of the Hall of Fame, simply based on performance.
Well, the prosecutor does, and the kid's mother does, and the doctors did, and the grand jury did. How about we let the criminal justice system do its job. And when its done his employers will do theirs--which is gauging whether its a good business decision to bring him back. Unless you are suggesting AD doesn't have the right to ever have any job given what he did, the NFL and the Vikings will determine whether the job he should have is as a running back.That's a festering turd of a post, even for you.Do state laws pertain to how the Vikings will handle the situation? I mean Ben Roethlisberger raped a girl, sometimes a player is too value to release. The fact that Peterson wasn't outright released tells me there's a chance he will stick around.
You can't just start blackballing people. The fans want to see AP play, me at least. Vikings fans REALLY want him to play, they have no chance of the playoffs without him. Let's get him back on the field!![]()
moral of the story: as long as the fans are entertained on game day, who gives a crap what these guys do.
that was sarcasm, and attempting to point out how dumb em's thinking is. evidently I failed.Well, the prosecutor does, and the kid's mother does, and the doctors did, and the grand jury did. How about we let the criminal justice system do its job. And when its done his employers will do theirs--which is gauging whether its a good business decision to bring him back. Unless you are suggesting AD doesn't have the right to ever have any job given what he did, the NFL and the Vikings will determine whether the job he should have is as a running back.That's a festering turd of a post, even for you.Do state laws pertain to how the Vikings will handle the situation? I mean Ben Roethlisberger raped a girl, sometimes a player is too value to release. The fact that Peterson wasn't outright released tells me there's a chance he will stick around.
You can't just start blackballing people. The fans want to see AP play, me at least. Vikings fans REALLY want him to play, they have no chance of the playoffs without him. Let's get him back on the field!moral of the story: as long as the fans are entertained on game day, who gives a crap what these guys do.
I'm sure the fans' expectations will factor into whether AD gets another chance in the NFL.that was sarcasm, and attempting to point out how dumb em's thinking is. evidently I failed.Well, the prosecutor does, and the kid's mother does, and the doctors did, and the grand jury did. How about we let the criminal justice system do its job. And when its done his employers will do theirs--which is gauging whether its a good business decision to bring him back. Unless you are suggesting AD doesn't have the right to ever have any job given what he did, the NFL and the Vikings will determine whether the job he should have is as a running back.That's a festering turd of a post, even for you.Do state laws pertain to how the Vikings will handle the situation? I mean Ben Roethlisberger raped a girl, sometimes a player is too value to release. The fact that Peterson wasn't outright released tells me there's a chance he will stick around.
You can't just start blackballing people. The fans want to see AP play, me at least. Vikings fans REALLY want him to play, they have no chance of the playoffs without him. Let's get him back on the field!moral of the story: as long as the fans are entertained on game day, who gives a crap what these guys do.
FatUncleJerryBuss said:Again all this stuff sucks but to peg it as "new" and "something needs to be done" is BS. It has been problem for decades and only superficial steps will be taken. Rice beats his wife and AP beats his kid and lets get on the message board and ##### about it when the same thing is most likely happening a few doors down from where you live and you don't give a crap about it.
Terrible posting. If i, and i assume most of the population, knew my neighbor was beating their kid I'd be on the phone to CPS and telling them to their face what a horrible person they are.FatUncleJerryBuss said:Again all this stuff sucks but to peg it as "new" and "something needs to be done" is BS. It has been problem for decades and only superficial steps will be taken. Rice beats his wife and AP beats his kid and lets get on the message board and ##### about it when the same thing is most likely happening a few doors down from where you live and you don't give a crap about it.![]()
He's getting better at being worse.That's a festering turd of a post, even for you.Do state laws pertain to how the Vikings will handle the situation? I mean Ben Roethlisberger raped a girl, sometimes a player is too value to release. The fact that Peterson wasn't outright released tells me there's a chance he will stick around.
You can't just start blackballing people. The fans want to see AP play, me at least. Vikings fans REALLY want him to play, they have no chance of the playoffs without him. Let's get him back on the field!
So to each their own I guess.No man, I'm just not a #####. We know the league is full of thugs, the only ones playing are just the ones that haven't been caught. If Adrian Peterson gets jail time then that is sufficient reason not to play. Throw him in an anger management class and get him back on the field.It can't be stated often enough how dumb eminence is.
I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention.So to each their own I guess.
Perhaps he was referring to your statement that of course African Americans have demons based on the fact that they are African American. Perhaps he was referring to more.No man, I'm just not a #####. We know the league is full of thugs, the only ones playing are just the ones that haven't been caught. If Adrian Peterson gets jail time then that is sufficient reason not to play. Throw him in an anger management class and get him back on the field.It can't be stated often enough how dumb eminence is.
Actually, the hatred you (and others) show toward tim, and all these ####### pathetic posts that I have to read on the subject, are the worst thing that had ever happened (to this board).You are the worst thing that has ever happened, ever.timschochet said:The tragic thing about this, beyond the story itself, is that Adrian Peterson is not just a star NFL running back. He may be the best running back ever. At the very least he has to be considered with the likes of Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.
If he never plays another down of football because of this incident, he's already well worthy of the Hall of Fame, simply based on performance.
Oh shut up. I actually agree with you on this but just shut up with this.Actually, the hatred you (and others) show toward tim, and all these ####### pathetic posts that I have to read on the subject, are the worst thing that had ever happened (to this board).You are the worst thing that has ever happened, ever.timschochet said:The tragic thing about this, beyond the story itself, is that Adrian Peterson is not just a star NFL running back. He may be the best running back ever. At the very least he has to be considered with the likes of Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.
If he never plays another down of football because of this incident, he's already well worthy of the Hall of Fame, simply based on performance.
With all due respect (FYI, that's nil to none) who the #### are you to question anyone?You posting at 5:30 AM Pacific Time on a Saturday morning reaffirms my notion that you don't actually live on the West Coast.But I guess there are always some who only read what they want so as to reaffirm pre-conceived notions.
dang it I was ready with an Alameda Ta'amu joke.Goodell: "It's come to my attention you beat the #### out of your child with a tree branch"
AP channeling Costanza: "Was that wrong? I gotta plead ignorance to this one"
I am by no means an expert on this subject. But, I believe so folks are taught from a religious perspective that punishing with an object is preferential to punishing with your hand in the sense that the hand should be used for love/affection or something like that. I am sure there are some folks who could articulate my point better, assuming I am remembering correctly.What's with the need for a weapon in this spot? Hand to the rear end not enough for a child?
Really don't get that part.
He has poor self control.Settle down, Beavis.With all due respect (FYI, that's nil to none) who the #### are you to question anyone? Seriously. Who the #### are you?You posting at 5:30 AM Pacific Time on a Saturday morning reaffirms my notion that you don't actually live on the West Coast.But I guess there are always some who only read what they want so as to reaffirm pre-conceived notions.
The focus should be more on education, not punishment, since he still hasI love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention.So to each their own I guess.
If you lived in Texas where it's legal to beat children with a switch you'd get your ### kicked for saying that.Terrible posting. If i, and i assume most of the population, knew my neighbor was beating their kid I'd be on the phone to CPS and telling them to their face what a horrible person they are.FatUncleJerryBuss said:Again all this stuff sucks but to peg it as "new" and "something needs to be done" is BS. It has been problem for decades and only superficial steps will be taken. Rice beats his wife and AP beats his kid and lets get on the message board and ##### about it when the same thing is most likely happening a few doors down from where you live and you don't give a crap about it.![]()
The two things he mentioned were pushing a kid off of a motorcycle video game (kid could have been serious hurt) and scratching a kid's face.Have we learned what the kid did to "earn" the whipping? Only thing I've heard was that he interrupted a game being played by other kids.
Reminds me of the politician who was videotaped whipping his kid with a belt because the kid couldn't catch a baseball.
I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention.So to each their own I guess.
I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention.So to each their own I guess.
Should the guy who delivers the mail lose his job if he is indicted by a grand jury for child abuse? What about the guy ringing you up at the grocery store? Doesn't anyone find it a little scary that whenever someone does something or is alleged to have done something that crosses the line of the Twitter conscious-phere that they somehow become the most evil person in the world and that they should lose their job?
As alluded to in many other comments in many other forums, you have guys who were involved in the death of another human being still playing, still making a living working for television networks, etc. I don't want to get political by any stretch of the imagination, but we have politicians trying to take the political high ground and tell the NFL what to do. We have the National Organization for Women, which was absolutely silent when Bill Clinton was being accused of sexual harassment and rape (never mind banging interns and cheating on his wife) calling for the commissioner (basically the president) of the NFL to step down.
Are you ####### kidding me? We have politicians getting on their high horse and acting as if they have the moral authority and right to tell a private organization how they should handle their business when they collectively turn a blind eye, rationalize and explain away the corrupt and illegal behavior of their colleagues? Something like 15% of the Democratic senators in the state of California are facing criminal charges and the Dem leadership will not even expel them. The world is off its rocker right now and I have no idea how we find some semblance of common sense, proportion and moral consistency and fairness.
Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
There was plenty of outrage in 2007, but almost none today.Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
ADP will be back this season and I suspect Rice will be back as well (although not likely this season).I am not sure anyone is saying that a simple apology and moving on is enough. I do have some discomfort with the prospect that NFL football players are now held to some moral standard we do not require of people in even more important societal positions. I have some significant concerns with players being punished due to media/public opinion lynchings before they have even had due process in a court of law. That is effing scary to me.Should the guy who delivers the mail lose his job if he is indicted by a grand jury for child abuse? What about the guy ringing you up at the grocery store? Doesn't anyone find it a little scary that whenever someone does something or is alleged to have done something that crosses the line of the Twitter conscious-phere that they somehow become the most evil person in the world and that they should lose their job?I love the new he has apologized lets move on thing. Really apologies are now the legal currency of the day?" I beat my kid bloody and bruised is that frowned on here? Well if I would have known that would be a problem I certainly wouldn't have hit him with a stick 15-16 times including across his scrotum apparently. I just didn't know, my bad. Time to get on to the game." Yeah that seems like enough punishment let's move on.Should he have spanked a child with a switch? I was spanked with a belt by my father who was a policeman. Sometimes if I moved during the spanking there would be marks on my hands where I tried to protect my butt. Right? Wrong? I dunno, but I have "whipped" my children with my hand, and for the most part they are not the a hole kid I was. Culturally the more education a person has the less spanking there will be in that house. Right or wrong it is not against the law to spank a child in the state of Texas. AD crossed the line and he has apologized for it. What would be a just punishment for AD? Prison time? A fine? Never get to see his kid again? Today on a local sports radio show a black man was talking about how spanking is a cultural thing in the black community. This black radio announcer went on to say that he has never spanked his 5 year old daughter, but had "thumped" her in the head many times to get her attention.So to each their own I guess.
As alluded to in many other comments in many other forums, you have guys who were involved in the death of another human being still playing, still making a living working for television networks, etc. I don't want to get political by any stretch of the imagination, but we have politicians trying to take the political high ground and tell the NFL what to do. We have the National Organization for Women, which was absolutely silent when Bill Clinton was being accused of sexual harassment and rape (never mind banging interns and cheating on his wife) calling for the commissioner (basically the president) of the NFL to step down.
Are you ####### kidding me? We have politicians getting on their high horse and acting as if they have the moral authority and right to tell a private organization how they should handle their business when they collectively turn a blind eye, rationalize and explain away the corrupt and illegal behavior of their colleagues? Something like 15% of the Democratic senators in the state of California are facing criminal charges and the Dem leadership will not even expel them. The world is off its rocker right now and I have no idea how we find some semblance of common sense, proportion and moral consistency and fairness.It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
Keep posting this.Asiata or McKinnon who is the better pick up
I think he's saying there's no outrage about them being allowed to play after serving their time.Huh? Dude went to prison for a couple of years IIRC.It's strange that convicted felons (Michael Vick, Pacman Jones) continue to occupy roster spots with barely a peep of outrage, while fans call for permanent banishment of guys who haven't even been put on trial, let alone been convicted of anything (Ray Rice, ADP).
"Drunken said:God you're terribletimschochet said:The tragic thing about this, beyond the story itself, is that Adrian Peterson is not just a star NFL running back. He may be the best running back ever. At the very least he has to be considered with the likes of Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.
If he never plays another down of football because of this incident, he's already well worthy of the Hall of Fame, simply based on performance.