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Andre Brown returns ?, to what roll? (1 Viewer)
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Rick James
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still had an ok game in my ppr league.
Interseptopus
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Glad I sold high after last week.
He's a good rb2 moving forward. I don't know what people expect out of him to be griping over 12 points in PPR leagues.... That's not too bad
In my league he was selected in like the 6th round or something, as a rb3/flex, so if that trend holds true for most leagues, boy people are getting greedy
He's a good rb2 moving forward. I don't know what people expect out of him to be griping over 12 points in PPR leagues.... That's not too bad
In my league he was selected in like the 6th round or something, as a rb3/flex, so if that trend holds true for most leagues, boy people are getting greedy
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Jenkinssssss
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hard roll.
SaintsInDome2006
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I thought that was another great game. Sure it was a little disappointing to see Jacobs get the long run (you know Brown would have scored there) but I'm happy to see the Giants resting him, I'm ok with that, and the receptions are a bonus, I think we keep seeing more of that a Eli needs it.
Having similar concerns (though it's worth pointing out that WAS run D has been playing pretty well lately). I have Vereen and a possibly resurgent Roddy available, but for now I'm leaning toward keeping him in there one more week. Definitely don't like the Sea/Det match-ups, so there's a good chance I'll look elsewhere those weeks.
I definitey have these concerns after watching him last week. Honestly, he looked awful.
I am on the fence on whether to start him or MJD. Brown is ranked high by just about everyone, but I am concerned to say the least....
fordhampro
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I'm a little concerned with the SD run defense as well but I think the Redskins run D has actually been similar and underrated the last few weeks. It's their pass D that's been terrible. Is last week's score the ceiling against SD this week?
SaintsInDome2006
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SD has allowed the following total rushing yards by RBs:
Hou 27/112/0
Phi 14/66/0 (+McCoy 5/114/0 rec)
TEN 23/102/0
Dal 15/77/0
Oak 17/73/0
IND 13/55/0
Jax 12/66/0
Was 32/156/1
Den 20/85/0
Mia 14/74/1
KC 15/118/2
CIN 34/149/1
No receiving TDs all year, 43/298/0 receiving by RBs all year outside of McCoy. Not much.
That's 5 rushing TDs in 5 games, even if you just take Charles' awesomeness out of it, Was & Cin especially still have had recent great games.
Jacobs being out should also add to the chances for TD opportunities for Brown.
Hou 27/112/0
Phi 14/66/0 (+McCoy 5/114/0 rec)
TEN 23/102/0
Dal 15/77/0
Oak 17/73/0
IND 13/55/0
Jax 12/66/0
Was 32/156/1
Den 20/85/0
Mia 14/74/1
KC 15/118/2
CIN 34/149/1
No receiving TDs all year, 43/298/0 receiving by RBs all year outside of McCoy. Not much.
That's 5 rushing TDs in 5 games, even if you just take Charles' awesomeness out of it, Was & Cin especially still have had recent great games.
Jacobs being out should also add to the chances for TD opportunities for Brown.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Week 10-14 Andre Brown is 4th in total touches per week, between Bell and Forte, but last week his touches went down from 33/23/25 to 19.
Any sense on why this happened?
I saw the game and it looked to me like Brown tweaked something, went out, and Hillis got some work.
Anything here?
Any sense on why this happened?
I saw the game and it looked to me like Brown tweaked something, went out, and Hillis got some work.
Anything here?
SaintsInDome2006
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Second straight week with Brown getting "just" 19 touches, with Hills getting the goal line score maybe being the most disturbing aspect.
.... annnd he lost a fumble.
Seattle coming to town, and they plan on doing a Super Bowl Preview show.
.... annnd he lost a fumble.
Seattle coming to town, and they plan on doing a Super Bowl Preview show.
smapdi
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I'm in the same boat^
My RB's are ravaged by injuries so it's either Brown or Spiller at this point for me.
I'm playing the team I'm tied with for 2nd who has 100 points on me so I HAVE to win this game.
SEA defense + his production last week have me very worried. But, it is a home game and he is all the Giants have. Spiller has JAX on the road and the Bills looked absolutely awful in TB on Sunday. I really am torn at this point.
I would roll out MJD but it's looking like he may not play.
My RB's are ravaged by injuries so it's either Brown or Spiller at this point for me.
I'm playing the team I'm tied with for 2nd who has 100 points on me so I HAVE to win this game.
SEA defense + his production last week have me very worried. But, it is a home game and he is all the Giants have. Spiller has JAX on the road and the Bills looked absolutely awful in TB on Sunday. I really am torn at this point.
I would roll out MJD but it's looking like he may not play.
Yeah, it's been a great run, Andre, but back to my bench you go. Vereen's emergence as NE's only offensive weapon makes this a no-brainer, but even if Lacy sits, I think I'd start either Starks or Roddy over Brown. He's good, but he's demonstrated that he can't necessarily overcome a bad match-up/Eli to reliably put up RB1 numbers.
For those without better options, I wish you the best of luck!
For those without better options, I wish you the best of luck!
crowe1130
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Same here. Hate to do it, but the reduction in carries, the Hillis factor, the fumble, and the Seattle D are not a good combination. Currently planning to start Woodhead over him non-ppr.
SaintsInDome2006
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I'm a fan of the guy, but... Even though Brown got a chance from the 5, Hillis is a problem he took the next two carries in for the score. - Andre Brown without TD opportunities is like an igloo without ice, unpossible.
Ridiculous thing is Brown used to be the TD hammer goal line guy. I think he's better at that role than Hillis.
Seattle has allowed just 4 rushing TDs on the year to boot.
Ridiculous thing is Brown used to be the TD hammer goal line guy. I think he's better at that role than Hillis.
Seattle has allowed just 4 rushing TDs on the year to boot.
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How does 11-12 fantasy points to RBs compare to the average?
Looking at expert rankings/projections, it looks like everyone's immediate reaction to seeing SEA as the matchup is to seriously downgrade A. Brown.
I'm not so sure.
Seattle isn't the same run D on the road per the above data. They also have to travel east for a 1pm game.
Looking at the games where SEA has struggled or at least looked a bit average on the road:
* @ CAR -- D. Williams 17-86. Not bad
* @HOU -- A. Foster 27-102
* @STL -- Z. Stacy with 26-134.
Pretty much three teams that want to lineup and smash you in the mouth with the run. Similar to Coughlin.
There's also supposed to be a storm hitting the east coast. At minimum will be colder, possibly wind in the meadowlands. If anything, this could make the SEA offense a bit clunky and keep the game somewhat close.
In league where I also get 1 pt per every 4 carries and PPR, I'm considering keeping A. Brown in the lineup.
20 carries, 70 yards, 4 receptions, 20 yards still nets me 18 points.
SaintsInDome2006
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If you get points for carries, that's a little different than most leagues. Also, Brown's carries have gone down. He's been getting about 16 carries, 3 catches or so his last couple games.
What really aggravates me is Andre is a great goal line back, but Coughlin insists on bringing Hillis in for him now at the goal. Giants fans must be losing it.
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steveski
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All those teams have pretty decent defenses though. The Giants do not. I'm not so worried about Brown not being able to run on Seattle. I'm more worried about the fact that I could see the Giants being down 2 TD's in the 1st quarter.
Yeah, that fear is warranted. That's why I'm hoping a cross country trip for Seattle, a 1pm start, maybe weather will slow down the SEA offense.
NYG D hasn't been that bad.
PPR I am rolling with him. Seattle gives up receptions to RBs and if the Giants fall behind big, it's more likely Brown will be in the game rather than Hillis. He might not score, but if he grabs 5 receptions for say 25-35 yards to go along with 70-80 yards on the ground, I'll take it. TD would be gravy.
silentcoach
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steveski
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Exactly like last week, except worse. He had 5 ypc, which is great. Problem is he only carried 16 times and got his goal line carries vultured. If you play him this week (I have to), then you're praying that he gets a TD or else you're not going to be pleased.
fordhampro
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Anyone considering dropping him if you have something like 5 solid RBs (with him) and need to secure defenses? I'm not starting him this week and I'm not sure that I'd start him next week (DET) unless there are 3 major injuries to my RBs. Or is it still more valuable to keep him out of someone else's lineup?
MarcO
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I've seen every Seahawks game this year, they are susceptible to good inside blocking and running - it's when teams try to stretch it out wide is when they don't have much success running. I've not seen much of the Giants this year but what I have seen is that they've done a pretty good job of creating holes up the middle for Brown. If this is a correct observation, then I think Brown has a shot at getting 70+ yards on the ground. It's hard to predict a TD but I would say the Giants are more likely to score from 5-15 yards out than from inside the 5, so I think that minimizes the Hillis factor.
I don't think Seattle jumps on the Giants early unless there is a flurry of TOs or other mistakes as the Hawks offense just isn't as dynamic on the road - and I think they play this game closer to the vest and try to establish Lynch as the main focus of the offense.
I don't think his ceiling is high (20 points with a TD) but I think he's a good bet for 12-15 points this week in PPR.
I don't think Seattle jumps on the Giants early unless there is a flurry of TOs or other mistakes as the Hawks offense just isn't as dynamic on the road - and I think they play this game closer to the vest and try to establish Lynch as the main focus of the offense.
I don't think his ceiling is high (20 points with a TD) but I think he's a good bet for 12-15 points this week in PPR.
smapdi
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Ughhhh what a mess. My RB killed me.
11 carries for 19 yards. I'm in PPR so his 4 catches for 9 yards lessened the punch to the balls that was the NYG offense.
5 INT's at home Eli?!? 0 points scored. Just terrible. Almost wish I went with Ben Tate instead- at least he had 72 yards & 12.2 points
I am down 0.8 points with Calvin Johnson playing tomorrow and my opponent is done. Just need 1 catch and I'm golden.
11 carries for 19 yards. I'm in PPR so his 4 catches for 9 yards lessened the punch to the balls that was the NYG offense.
5 INT's at home Eli?!? 0 points scored. Just terrible. Almost wish I went with Ben Tate instead- at least he had 72 yards & 12.2 points
I am down 0.8 points with Calvin Johnson playing tomorrow and my opponent is done. Just need 1 catch and I'm golden.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Fyi, it looks like Hillis might be out with a concussion.
After starting him with good results at RB2, I have been kind of writing him off last couple weeks, because of the matchups, because of Hillis at the goal line, because the NYG have gotten worse not better after getting better for a while. - However now it looks like Hillis might be out, Jacobs is already IR, so maybe Brown gets nearly all the touches, sees nearly all the snaps, and maybe sees the goal line carries again. But again the NYG have been dying, Manning and Gilbride can't maintain a drive, and it's the DET run defense.
After starting him with good results at RB2, I have been kind of writing him off last couple weeks, because of the matchups, because of Hillis at the goal line, because the NYG have gotten worse not better after getting better for a while. - However now it looks like Hillis might be out, Jacobs is already IR, so maybe Brown gets nearly all the touches, sees nearly all the snaps, and maybe sees the goal line carries again. But again the NYG have been dying, Manning and Gilbride can't maintain a drive, and it's the DET run defense.
steveski
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Just saw that as well. I was pretty set on benching Brown this week, now I'm not so sure. I still expect his yardage to be low, but hopefully can punch in a TD or 2 this week. Detroits run D is good, but they do somehow find ways to lose games so I don't expect a shut out and I do expect it to be a close game. Still a risky play, but all it takes is 1 TD to go along with his 30-50 yards to make him a decent flex play.
VikingFrog
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Anybody have the cajones to roll Brown out this week after his clunker last week, and against a top run defense?
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
Starting him over Joique, LMiller, and Dennis Johnson. Pretty good chance I'll regret it.
Darryl Talley
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Andre Brown has passed his concussion test.
Brown would have practiced on a limited basis if the Giants held a session on Wednesday. Barring a setback, he should be able to get fully cleared ahead of Sunday's matchup with the Redskins. Dec 25 - 3:26 PM
Source: Paul Schwartz on Twitter
Peyton Hillis has passed his concussion test.
Hillis missed Week 16 due to his concussion, but has been cleared to resume practicing. He'll serve as the No. 2 running back behind Andre Brown if active for Sunday's game against Washington. Dec 25 - 3:29 PM
Source: Paul Schwartz on Twitter
Brown would have practiced on a limited basis if the Giants held a session on Wednesday. Barring a setback, he should be able to get fully cleared ahead of Sunday's matchup with the Redskins. Dec 25 - 3:26 PM
Source: Paul Schwartz on Twitter
Peyton Hillis has passed his concussion test.
Hillis missed Week 16 due to his concussion, but has been cleared to resume practicing. He'll serve as the No. 2 running back behind Andre Brown if active for Sunday's game against Washington. Dec 25 - 3:29 PM
Source: Paul Schwartz on Twitter
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zamboni
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Brown should undoubtedly jump at any reasonable deal the Giants offer him. At best, he'd have to battle it out for a starting gig somewhere else.
JohnnyU
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Texans agreed to terms with RB Andre Brown, formerly of the Giants, on a one-year, $645,000 contract.
The Texans have their Ben Tate replacement. Older than Tate and even more injury prone, Brown is not an upgrade behind Arian Foster, but was easily the second-best back left on the market behind Chris Johnson. Brown started the final eight games for the Giants last season, but averaged only 3.53 yards per carry. For his career, the 27-year-old Brown owns a 4.09 YPC. He gets what's blocked, but not much else. Brown will begin training camp as the clear No. 2 on the depth chart, but won't be miles ahead of Dennis Johnson and Jonathan Grimes. Apr 7 - 4:07 PM
Source: John McClain on Twitter
The Texans have their Ben Tate replacement. Older than Tate and even more injury prone, Brown is not an upgrade behind Arian Foster, but was easily the second-best back left on the market behind Chris Johnson. Brown started the final eight games for the Giants last season, but averaged only 3.53 yards per carry. For his career, the 27-year-old Brown owns a 4.09 YPC. He gets what's blocked, but not much else. Brown will begin training camp as the clear No. 2 on the depth chart, but won't be miles ahead of Dennis Johnson and Jonathan Grimes. Apr 7 - 4:07 PM
Source: John McClain on Twitter
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