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Andre Ellington - RB - Clemson. (2 Viewers)

ourmanflint said:
Ted Mullins said:
Todem said:
If Ellington were healthy I have little doubt he would be running as the starter with David Johnson 2nd in line. That's how Arians roles. He likes his veterans first.
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This is exactly why I'm still holding onto Ellington. David Johnson has been really good with very limited touches but it seems like Arians is hesitant to unleash him - I think Ellington can be a fantasy starter IF he can get healthy soon.

That said, with only a few weeks left I definitely think you can ditch Ellington if you need to make a move. For me personally, I'm gonna need to see his usage for at least one week before I can start him. By the time he's healthy and you're comfortable rolling him out there, how many weeks are left?
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Yes. Assuming week 14 is your look and see week, that leaves 15 and 16 for possibly rolling him out. For me he is RB depth that could come in handy on some RB thin teams that will be in the playoffs. These types of plays can be handy, just like Beanie Wells and Ryan Grant in 2012. They did basically nothing all year and then won championships.
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Agree with this. It's pretty crazy some of the guys you find in fantasy starting lineups at the tail end of the season, even among the teams fighting for the championship.

Especially in a year like this, it's hardly a stretch to see Ellington being a guy you might roll out there week 15 or 16 if he shows anything this week or next.

 
davearm said:
ourmanflint said:
Ted Mullins said:
Todem said:
If Ellington were healthy I have little doubt he would be running as the starter with David Johnson 2nd in line. That's how Arians roles. He likes his veterans first.
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This is exactly why I'm still holding onto Ellington. David Johnson has been really good with very limited touches but it seems like Arians is hesitant to unleash him - I think Ellington can be a fantasy starter IF he can get healthy soon.

That said, with only a few weeks left I definitely think you can ditch Ellington if you need to make a move. For me personally, I'm gonna need to see his usage for at least one week before I can start him. By the time he's healthy and you're comfortable rolling him out there, how many weeks are left?
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Yes. Assuming week 14 is your look and see week, that leaves 15 and 16 for possibly rolling him out. For me he is RB depth that could come in handy on some RB thin teams that will be in the playoffs. These types of plays can be handy, just like Beanie Wells and Ryan Grant in 2012. They did basically nothing all year and then won championships.
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Agree with this. It's pretty crazy some of the guys you find in fantasy starting lineups at the tail end of the season, even among the teams fighting for the championship.

Especially in a year like this, it's hardly a stretch to see Ellington being a guy you might roll out there week 15 or 16 if he shows anything this week or next.
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I have a chance to drop Ellington for Duke Johnson right now in a PPR league. Should I do it?

 
ourmanflint said:
Ted Mullins said:
Todem said:
If Ellington were healthy I have little doubt he would be running as the starter with David Johnson 2nd in line. That's how Arians roles. He likes his veterans first.
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This is exactly why I'm still holding onto Ellington. David Johnson has been really good with very limited touches but it seems like Arians is hesitant to unleash him - I think Ellington can be a fantasy starter IF he can get healthy soon.

That said, with only a few weeks left I definitely think you can ditch Ellington if you need to make a move. For me personally, I'm gonna need to see his usage for at least one week before I can start him. By the time he's healthy and you're comfortable rolling him out there, how many weeks are left?
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Yes. Assuming week 14 is your look and see week, that leaves 15 and 16 for possibly rolling him out. For me he is RB depth that could come in handy on some RB thin teams that will be in the playoffs. These types of plays can be handy, just like Beanie Wells and Ryan Grant in 2012. They did basically nothing all year and then won championships.
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I'm generally with you, mainly meant I just don't see him as a strong must hold - week 14 is a Thursday game, not sure if he plays there? I know Arians made it sound like he might. I'm still holding thus far in the league where I have him FWIW, I think even a 50/50ish split with D Johnson makes him pretty viable.

Ellington vs Duke Johnson, I'd personally hold Ellington assuming this is someone you are stashing - I just don't think there's a lot of ceiling with Duke in that offense this year, especially with matchups vs Seattle and KC weeks 15 and 16.

 
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Ruled out for Sunday and as someone else mentioned, with a Thursday game next week the window for him to produce this year is shrinking rapidly.

 
Not sure I can hold this guy any longer.

Love the potential for the matchup @PHI week 15, but predicting usage would be near impossible if he's out next week as well. Drop city for D. Herron.

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Andre Ellington (turf toe) is expected to miss Week 14 against the Vikings.
He's already been ruled out for Sunday's game in St. Louis and the short week gives him very little chance to play Thursday against Minnesota. David Johnson will be a good bet for 20-plus touches during his absence. The rookie already has seven touchdowns in limited playing time this year.
 
Cardinals coach Bruce Arians said Andre Ellington will still have a role.
Arians hinted Ellington is firmly behind David and Chris Johnson, but he promised to get him looks. "We'll definitely get him in there," Arians said. "How many touches he gets is going to depends on how all three of them are playing." A free agent after this season, Ellington is likely entering his final year in Arizona.

 
 
Source: ESPN 
Jun 7 - 3:50 PM
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I thought he was over-valued coming off his rookie season, but the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. He's got enough talent and, although old for a 4th year back, he's worth acquiring if you can get him cheaply. Chris Johnson is terrible (I think he was the worst back to get over 100 carries last year as far as picking up more yards than the o-line provides) and if something were to happen to David Johnson then Ellington could have a nice stretch and position himself well for free agency.

 
Was kinda fun reading all those early December posts where people still thought Ellington had value.  He doesn't, barring injury.  He was always over thought of and always a bit on the easily breakable side and it was never meant to be. 

Arians has in David Johnson what he wanted and had (for a minute) in Mendenhall. If he holds up, he is a rare 3 down back ala Arian Foster when he was rolling where we can sit and debate until the cows come home about how to squeeze out or manufacture some value for the other RBs in the offense but at the end of the day, DJ will handle about 75% of it. 

 
Feel good about the read I had on Ellington. Freeman's in that same category but an even worse athlete. Buy up that Coleman stock now imo before training camp opens up. 

 
Shutout said:
Was kinda fun reading all those early December posts where people still thought Ellington had value.  He doesn't, barring injury.  He was always over thought of and always a bit on the easily breakable side and it was never meant to be. 

Arians has in David Johnson what he wanted and had (for a minute) in Mendenhall. If he holds up, he is a rare 3 down back ala Arian Foster when he was rolling where we can sit and debate until the cows come home about how to squeeze out or manufacture some value for the other RBs in the offense but at the end of the day, DJ will handle about 75% of it. 
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I recently drafted Ellington in the 6th round of a rookie/FA FFPC draft, which indicates how low his value is right now. 

I had two reasons for taking a stab on him. One of the Johnson's getting hurt or Ellington getting cut or traded and maybe ending up with third down/COP role on team that likes to heavily use their RB's in the passing game.

If he's simply returning next year to play with a healthy Johnson and Johnson he's worthless and unless it's a super deep roster dynasty league not worth hanging onto IMO in hopes of greener pastures in 2017. 

 
Be funny if this guy re emerges somehow with all the love for David johnson going on.  You almost know it's going to happen

 
I don't think Arians will ever trust Ellington again. Even if both Johnsons go down, I could see Ellington splitting with Stepfan Taylor and/or another guy signed off the street.

 
zamboni said:
I don't think Arians will ever trust Ellington again. Even if both Johnsons go down, I could see Ellington splitting with Stepfan Taylor and/or another guy signed off the street.
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Did Ellington sleep with  Arians' daughter or something?  The kid has produced when healthy, I don't get his hate for him.

 
abbottjamesr said:
Did Ellington sleep with  Arians' daughter or something?  The kid has produced when healthy, I don't get his hate for him.
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I think Arians was banking on him a few times over the past few years and then when Ellington got his chance, he promptly got hurt. I don't think it's that Arians hates him per se, just probably doesn't want to put the running game in Ellington's hands.

 
zamboni said:
I think Arians was banking on him a few times over the past few years and then when Ellington got his chance, he promptly got hurt. I don't think it's that Arians hates him per se, just probably doesn't want to put the running game in Ellington's hands.
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I can see that.  He also seems like one of those guys that just does better as a fill in type of guy.  3-4 carries and a couple of targets per game and he will average 5.6 ypc and 10 ypr with a long TD every couple weeks.  I think Arians would be silly to not use him some this season.  DJ is good but he doesn't have to do every thing in this offense.

 
abbottjamesr said:
I can see that.  He also seems like one of those guys that just does better as a fill in type of guy.  3-4 carries and a couple of targets per game and he will average 5.6 ypc and 10 ypr with a long TD every couple weeks.  I think Arians would be silly to not use him some this season.  DJ is good but he doesn't have to do every thing in this offense.
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Agree 100%. Some guys can thrive in situational roles and Ellington appears to be one of those.

 
Change of pace guy, nothing more. If DJ gets hurt he'll get a bigger role but not worth rostering otherwise.

 
Dawg Pound 69 said:
Wonder if they let him know of the plan to move him to WR before he signed his contract ?  That's asking a lot, for a 28 year old to suddenly learn a new position.
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Yes he knew of the plan, heard him say something about it back when he resigned and you can locate several articles from when he resigned saying he would be used more at WR, though I'm not sure if any said exclusively. I'm a little surprised he would accept a one year contract I believe has zero guarantees and is close to vet minimum to try out a new position myself. 

 
menobrown said:
Yes he knew of the plan, heard him say something about it back when he resigned and you can locate several articles from when he resigned saying he would be used more at WR, though I'm not sure if any said exclusively. I'm a little surprised he would accept a one year contract I believe has zero guarantees and is close to vet minimum to try out a new position myself. 
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Maybe he figured it was his best chance to make better money in 2018.

 
The Cardinals have moved Andre Ellington back to running back.

With J.J. Nelson as the No. 3 receiver, the return to health by Jaron Brown, and drafting of third-rounder Chad Williams, the Cardinals' need at receiver isn't as high as it was before the draft. Fifth-round scatback T.J. Logan was Arizona's only addition behind David Johnson. Coach Bruce Arians wants Ellington to be a tougher runner and not go down so easily. Expect him to be mostly used in space when on the field.

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Unless money is the issue (which Johnson has no leverage), I'd expect Chris Johnson back with the Cards this summer. 

 
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Cardinals coach Bruce Arians said Andre Ellington will be the team's primary back on third downs.

It confirms that Arizona will be using a timeshare in place of injured workhorse David Johnson (wrist). Ellington will be the passing-down back with Kerwynn Williams getting first crack at early downs. Chris Johnson will also be in the mix for carries. It's possible Ellington could eventually become a viable option in PPR leagues but a wait-and-see approach is probably best.

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter 

Sep 13 - 7:12 PM
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I took a flyer on him in my .5 PPR.  Seems like they can't run they ball and he's seen a bunch of targets since DJ went down ... after both Cook & Carson went down, I needed someone

 
Found on Rich Hribar Rotoworld worksheet.

  • Per Pro Football Focus, Andre Ellington has run 101 pass routes over the past three weeks, the most of all running backs in the NFL. Over that span, Ellington leads all backs in targets (22), receptions (14) and is second in receiving yards (145).
 
Just acquired him in my 16 team PPR dynasty for Josh McCown. Looks like I will have to start him this week with CJ Anderson and Julio on BYE

 
JoeSteeler said:
Just acquired him in my 16 team PPR dynasty for Josh McCown. Looks like I will have to start him this week with CJ Anderson and Julio on BYE
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Should be decent in PPR.  He will have horrible weeks of course but he should also have big weeks.  AZ has to throw the ball and Palmer needs an outlet. 

 
DocHolliday said:
Should be decent in PPR.  He will have horrible weeks of course but he should also have big weeks.  AZ has to throw the ball and Palmer needs an outlet. 
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That is what I am hoping. My team is defending champs but has had horrible injuries (David Johnson, Spencer Ware and Cam Meredith all on IR)  :violin: :ptts:

My top 2 RB have been CJA and Quizz, had to do something.

 
You guys are sleeping on him. He was the featured back until David Johnson showed up.

He was David Johnson before David Johnson was David David Johson. The offense is designed to outlet to a RB.

Ellington is the best pass catching back on the team, this was a no brainer.

 
I guess us Ellington owners aren't too worried about the AP arrival?

I haven't seen the splits, but I'm assuming Ellington gets most of his production on 3rd down anyways. Only 5 / 5 / 1/ rush attempts the past three games.

AP will get relieved on all 3rd downs besides some 3rd and shorts, in which AE wouldn't be in in the first place.

Does anybody know if Ellington gets run as a WR when there is another RB in the backfield?

 
hamsterdam said:
I guess us Ellington owners aren't too worried about the AP arrival?

I haven't seen the splits, but I'm assuming Ellington gets most of his production on 3rd down anyways. Only 5 / 5 / 1/ rush attempts the past three games.

AP will get relieved on all 3rd downs besides some 3rd and shorts, in which AE wouldn't be in in the first place.

Does anybody know if Ellington gets run as a WR when there is another RB in the backfield?
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I don't see how AP changes anything for Ellington.  Still going to get targets.

 
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