Any current players a lock for HoF (except Mahomes and ARod)? (1 Viewer)

[jumper]

Any current players except the 2 listed that you feel are a no-doubt “yes” for the Hall of Fame someday? Probably Travis Kelce. Next best I could come up with is Justin Tucker, but kickers so rarely get in. I suppose one could make a case for Trent Williams, Cameron Jordan, Bobby Wagner, and Zach Martin.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

TJ Watt

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Derrick Henry
Hopkins and Evans are close
Mack and Miller are probably edge locks

 

[IHEARTFF]

Active HOFs:
Aaron Rodgers
Patrick Mahomes
Travis Kelce
Lamar Jackson
Trent Williams
Derrick Henry
Mike Evans
Chris Jones
Myles Garrett
Lane Johnson
Tyreek Hill
TJ Watt
Khalil Mack
Von Miller
Cam Jordan
Cam Hayward
Calais Campbell
Bobby Wagner
Tyron Smith

 

[IHEARTFF]

Zack Martin retired but agreed that he’s getting in

 

[rockaction]

Mack and Miller are probably edge locks

Feels like 2015 was forever ago

 

[Soulfly3]

Mike Evans is an absolute no brainer and should've been listed with your 2 "locks"

 

[TheWinz]

Justin Tucker will make it in. 2024 was an awful year for him, but up until then, he made 90.2% of his FG's in his first 12 seasons, without missing a game. Even with his terrible performance last year, he is still the NFL's all-time FG percentage leader at 89.1% (minimum 100 career attempts). And it's not like he doesn't attempt long ones - only Matt Prater has made more from 50+. In 13 seasons, he has 417 FG's, for an average of just over 32 FG's per season. The only other K in history with at least 32 FG's per season is Brandon Aubrey, who has 2 whole seasons under his belt. Now, I wouldn't say he's a lock if he never plays again, but barring a Finkle-type meltdown, a few more seasons should do it.

 

[rockaction]

Justin Tucker will make it in. 2024 was an awful year for him, but up until then, he made 90.2% of his FG's in his first 12 seasons, without missing a game. Even with his terrible performance last year, he is still the NFL's all-time FG percentage leader at 89.1% (minimum 100 career attempts). And it's not like he doesn't attempt long ones - only Matt Prater has made more from 50+. In 13 seasons, he has 417 FG's, for an average of just over 32 FG's per season. The only other K in history with at least 32 FG's per season is Brandon Aubrey, who has 2 whole seasons under his belt. Now, I wouldn't say he's a lock if he never plays again, but barring a Finkle-type meltdown, a few more seasons should do it.

Do we tell him, fellas?

 

[TheWinz]

Justin Tucker will make it in. 2024 was an awful year for him, but up until then, he made 90.2% of his FG's in his first 12 seasons, without missing a game. Even with his terrible performance last year, he is still the NFL's all-time FG percentage leader at 89.1% (minimum 100 career attempts). And it's not like he doesn't attempt long ones - only Matt Prater has made more from 50+. In 13 seasons, he has 417 FG's, for an average of just over 32 FG's per season. The only other K in history with at least 32 FG's per season is Brandon Aubrey, who has 2 whole seasons under his belt. Now, I wouldn't say he's a lock if he never plays again, but barring a Finkle-type meltdown, a few more seasons should do it.

Do we tell him, fellas?

He's innocent, I tell ya!

 

[renesauz]

what should be locked is this thread. There are at least a dozen no brainers any of us could list in about 10 seconds, and another 6-12 most of could with another minute. OP needs his SP credential checked? (joking, but seriously bad post)

 

[eighsse2]

what should be locked is this thread. There are at least a dozen no brainers any of us could list in about 10 seconds, and another 6-12 most of could with another minute. OP needs his SP credential checked? (joking, but seriously bad post)

The ~24 players you're referring to, are these actually locks, like even if they suffer a severe injury in preseason and never play again? Or are some of them guys that are expected to have a few more good years, which would then put them in the HoF? I don't really have knowledge of what kinds of stats and accomplishments it typically requires.

 

[Tau837]

Active HOFs:

PFR's HOF Monitor is a flawed metric but can be used as a starting point proxy for examining a player's HOF case. Here are the players @IHEARTFF listed, in order of their current HOF Monitor score:

1. Aaron Rodgers 197.26 - LOCK
2. Travis Kelce 130.56 - LOCK
3. Bobby Wagner 112.88 - LOCK
4. Patrick Mahomes 102.00 - LOCK
5. Khalil Mack 101.5 - probably a LOCK now and not done
6. Von Miller 100.48 - probably a LOCK now and not done
7. Tyreek Hill 93.01 - probably a LOCK now and not done
8. Cam Jordan 82.53
9. Calais Campbell 82.43
10. Lamar Jackson 81.40 - :LOCK
11. TJ Watt 77.55
12. Tyron Smith 77.53
13. Myles Garrett 74.20
14. Mike Evans 73.41
15. Trent Williams 72.03
16. Cam Heyward 71.93
17. Chris Jones 66.55
18. Lane Johnson 61.25
19. Derrick Henry 54.37 - despite having a lower score than everyone else in the list, probably has a better chance than some others

The metric is supposed to be designed so that the average HOF score is ~100. Of course, that means there are HOFers below as well as above that threshold.

For the most part, I don't think the players below Hill except Jackson are locks yet... at least not if they never played another down. None of these players are done (assuming Campbell isn't), so many will still elevate their standing and that might be enough.

 

[renesauz]

what should be locked is this thread. There are at least a dozen no brainers any of us could list in about 10 seconds, and another 6-12 most of could with another minute. OP needs his SP credential checked? (joking, but seriously bad post)

The ~24 players you're referring to, are these actually locks, like even if they suffer a severe injury in preseason and never play again? Or are some of them guys that are expected to have a few more good years, which would then put them in the HoF? I don't really have knowledge of what kinds of stats and accomplishments it typically requires.

they put in 5 a year....which means there are at least 30 future HOF players playing at any given time (remember most HOF players have longer careers). It's pretty easy to come up with 12 easy choices
AT QB alone we have 3 locks and 2 very likely: Mahomes, Rodgers, Jackson, Stafford, Allen...and that's not including several good looking young QBs who have promising starts (Burrow, Hurts, Herbert)
At RB we have two locks: Barkley and Henry, with a couple of others tracking well (McCaffrey, Taylor)
At WR we have Hill, Adams, and Evans, with a half dozen others trending for it (Brown, Chase, Jefferson to name a few who would need a career ending injury or cliff not be in the conversation)

That's 8 no brainers and 8 or 9 more likely players already and I only went through 3 positions

 

[Tau837]

what should be locked is this thread. There are at least a dozen no brainers any of us could list in about 10 seconds, and another 6-12 most of could with another minute. OP needs his SP credential checked? (joking, but seriously bad post)

The ~24 players you're referring to, are these actually locks, like even if they suffer a severe injury in preseason and never play again? Or are some of them guys that are expected to have a few more good years, which would then put them in the HoF? I don't really have knowledge of what kinds of stats and accomplishments it typically requires.

they put in 5 a year....which means there are at least 30 future HOF players playing at any given time (remember most HOF players have longer careers). It's pretty easy to come up with 12 easy choices
AT QB alone we have 3 locks and 2 very likely: Mahomes, Rodgers, Jackson, Stafford, Allen...and that's not including several good looking young QBs who have promising starts (Burrow, Hurts, Herbert)
At RB we have two locks: Barkley and Henry, with a couple of others tracking well (McCaffrey, Taylor)
At WR we have Hill, Adams, and Evans, with a half dozen others trending for it (Brown, Chase, Jefferson to name a few who would need a career ending injury or cliff not be in the conversation)

That's 8 no brainers and 8 or 9 more likely players already and I only went through 3 positions

They literally just put in 4 in the class of 2025, including one senior nominee (Sharpe). The PFHOF has had 63 classes, and 19 of them have had 4 inductees or fewer.

I don't agree with all of your locks... again, if they never played another down.

 

[rockaction]

Barkley

Definitely not a lock. He's only rushed for one thousand yards four times and has a career total of 7,000 yards.

He has at least another two years of peak performance needed to make the HoF. Compilin' Frank Gore has 9,000 more yards than he does, and he's not assured of getting in.

 

[Deamon]

Any current players except the 2 listed that you feel are a no-doubt “yes” for the Hall of Fame someday? Probably Travis Kelce. Next best I could come up with is Justin Tucker, but kickers so rarely get in. I suppose one could make a case for Trent Williams, Cameron Jordan, Bobby Wagner, and Zach Martin.

woah woah woah. I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend.

 

[Biabreakable]

Harrison Smith might make it if the Vikings go deep in the playoffs this season.

 

[renesauz]

Barkley

Definitely not a lock. He's only rushed for one thousand yards four times and has a career total of 7,000 yards.

He has at least another two years of peak performance needed to make the HoF. Compilin' Frank Gore has 9,000 more yards than he does, and he's not assured of getting in.

I gues the difference here is the assumption that none of these players play another down. I just don't see how that's a reasonable assumption for a meaningful conversation. BUt I will concede that at least a few of the guys on my lock list would likely fail to make it if they suffered a career ending injury early next year, including Barkley. It makes sense to leave younger players who need multiple good to great years off (Jefferson), but not guys in their prime needing just a couple of (for them) average years (Barkley, Jackson)

BUT (for example)...If Barkley had just 2 more seasons of 1200+ total yards he'd get in with solid career numbers and his record breaking 2024 season. With the odds of accomplishing that extremely high, it seems reasonable to call him a lock.

 

[renesauz]

what should be locked is this thread. There are at least a dozen no brainers any of us could list in about 10 seconds, and another 6-12 most of could with another minute. OP needs his SP credential checked? (joking, but seriously bad post)

The ~24 players you're referring to, are these actually locks, like even if they suffer a severe injury in preseason and never play again? Or are some of them guys that are expected to have a few more good years, which would then put them in the HoF? I don't really have knowledge of what kinds of stats and accomplishments it typically requires.

they put in 5 a year....which means there are at least 30 future HOF players playing at any given time (remember most HOF players have longer careers). It's pretty easy to come up with 12 easy choices
AT QB alone we have 3 locks and 2 very likely: Mahomes, Rodgers, Jackson, Stafford, Allen...and that's not including several good looking young QBs who have promising starts (Burrow, Hurts, Herbert)
At RB we have two locks: Barkley and Henry, with a couple of others tracking well (McCaffrey, Taylor)
At WR we have Hill, Adams, and Evans, with a half dozen others trending for it (Brown, Chase, Jefferson to name a few who would need a career ending injury or cliff not be in the conversation)

That's 8 no brainers and 8 or 9 more likely players already and I only went through 3 positions

They literally just put in 4 in the class of 2025, including one senior nominee (Sharpe). The PFHOF has had 63 classes, and 19 of them have had 4 inductees or fewer.

I don't agree with all of your locks... again, if they never played another down.

Quick google:
"The Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee can induct between four and eight players in a given year, with the Class of 2025 being the smallest since 2005 with only four enshrinees."

Four is unusually low. Six or 7 is far more typical in the last 20 years, and one year (2020) had an absurd 20 get in. In most (recent) years 5 who played recently get in, and 2 or 3 others get in as contributors or throwbacks.

 

[travdogg]

The lack of respect to Russell Wilson in this thread is wild. He's more likely to be a HOFer than 90% of the names thrown out. Super bowl win, that he played great in, and 10 high quality seasons. He's a top 8 guy among current players, easily. Ahead of any RB, DB, OL, or even WR.

 

[Anarchy99]

Active HOFs:

PFR's HOF Monitor is a flawed metric but can be used as a starting point proxy for examining a player's HOF case. Here are the players @IHEARTFF listed, in order of their current HOF Monitor score:

1. Aaron Rodgers 197.26 - LOCK
2. Travis Kelce 130.56 - LOCK
3. Bobby Wagner 112.88 - LOCK
4. Patrick Mahomes 102.00 - LOCK
5. Khalil Mack 101.5 - probably a LOCK now and not done
6. Von Miller 100.48 - probably a LOCK now and not done
7. Tyreek Hill 93.01 - probably a LOCK now and not done
8. Cam Jordan 82.53
9. Calais Campbell 82.43
10. Lamar Jackson 81.40 - :LOCK
11. TJ Watt 77.55
12. Tyron Smith 77.53
13. Myles Garrett 74.20
14. Mike Evans 73.41
15. Trent Williams 72.03
16. Cam Heyward 71.93
17. Chris Jones 66.55
18. Lane Johnson 61.25
19. Derrick Henry 54.37 - despite having a lower score than everyone else in the list, probably has a better chance than some others

The metric is supposed to be designed so that the average HOF score is ~100. Of course, that means there are HOFers below as well as above that threshold.

For the most part, I don't think the players below Hill except Jackson are locks yet... at least not if they never played another down. None of these players are done (assuming Campbell isn't), so many will still elevate their standing and that might be enough.

Other players not mentioned here with scores of 80+ . . .

Russell Wilson - 93.65 (Given the number of QBs with lower scores already in the HOF, I don't see how he doesn't get inducted.)
Matthew Stafford - 84.24 (He's already Top 10 lifetime in completions, yardage, and passing TD . . . and he won a ring. He's still adding to those totals. IMO, he'll get in eventually.)
Cameron Jordan - 82.53 (He has a decent score, but the Saints haven't gone on too many deep playoff runs. Probably won't make it.)
Calais Campbell - 82.43 (Had a really strong 7 y-year peak, but the start and the end of his career were not as good. Also probably won't make it.)

 

[Tau837]

what should be locked is this thread. There are at least a dozen no brainers any of us could list in about 10 seconds, and another 6-12 most of could with another minute. OP needs his SP credential checked? (joking, but seriously bad post)

The ~24 players you're referring to, are these actually locks, like even if they suffer a severe injury in preseason and never play again? Or are some of them guys that are expected to have a few more good years, which would then put them in the HoF? I don't really have knowledge of what kinds of stats and accomplishments it typically requires.

they put in 5 a year....which means there are at least 30 future HOF players playing at any given time (remember most HOF players have longer careers). It's pretty easy to come up with 12 easy choices
AT QB alone we have 3 locks and 2 very likely: Mahomes, Rodgers, Jackson, Stafford, Allen...and that's not including several good looking young QBs who have promising starts (Burrow, Hurts, Herbert)
At RB we have two locks: Barkley and Henry, with a couple of others tracking well (McCaffrey, Taylor)
At WR we have Hill, Adams, and Evans, with a half dozen others trending for it (Brown, Chase, Jefferson to name a few who would need a career ending injury or cliff not be in the conversation)

That's 8 no brainers and 8 or 9 more likely players already and I only went through 3 positions

They literally just put in 4 in the class of 2025, including one senior nominee (Sharpe). The PFHOF has had 63 classes, and 19 of them have had 4 inductees or fewer.

I don't agree with all of your locks... again, if they never played another down.

Quick google:
"The Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee can induct between four and eight players in a given year, with the Class of 2025 being the smallest since 2005 with only four enshrinees."

Four is unusually low. Six or 7 is far more typical in the last 20 years, and one year (2020) had an absurd 20 get in. In most (recent) years 5 who played recently get in, and 2 or 3 others get in as contributors or throwbacks.

Understand it is unusual. But it is also the most recent data point. And in this case only 3 non-senior candidates made it despite other finalists (IMO) being clearly worthy. There is no easy way to know if this signifies a change in how voting will go in the future or if it was for some reason a one-time anomaly.

 

[Tau837]

Active HOFs:

PFR's HOF Monitor is a flawed metric but can be used as a starting point proxy for examining a player's HOF case. Here are the players @IHEARTFF listed, in order of their current HOF Monitor score:

1. Aaron Rodgers 197.26 - LOCK
2. Travis Kelce 130.56 - LOCK
3. Bobby Wagner 112.88 - LOCK
4. Patrick Mahomes 102.00 - LOCK
5. Khalil Mack 101.5 - probably a LOCK now and not done
6. Von Miller 100.48 - probably a LOCK now and not done
7. Tyreek Hill 93.01 - probably a LOCK now and not done
8. Cam Jordan 82.53
9. Calais Campbell 82.43
10. Lamar Jackson 81.40 - :LOCK
11. TJ Watt 77.55
12. Tyron Smith 77.53
13. Myles Garrett 74.20
14. Mike Evans 73.41
15. Trent Williams 72.03
16. Cam Heyward 71.93
17. Chris Jones 66.55
18. Lane Johnson 61.25
19. Derrick Henry 54.37 - despite having a lower score than everyone else in the list, probably has a better chance than some others

The metric is supposed to be designed so that the average HOF score is ~100. Of course, that means there are HOFers below as well as above that threshold.

For the most part, I don't think the players below Hill except Jackson are locks yet... at least not if they never played another down. None of these players are done (assuming Campbell isn't), so many will still elevate their standing and that might be enough.

Other players not mentioned here with scores of 80+ . . .

Russell Wilson - 93.65 (Given the number of QBs with lower scores already in the HOF, I don't see how he doesn't get inducted.)
Matthew Stafford - 84.24 (He's already Top 10 lifetime in completions, yardage, and passing TD . . . and he won a ring. He's still adding to those totals. IMO, he'll get in eventually.)
Cameron Jordan - 82.53 (He has a decent score, but the Saints haven't gone on too many deep playoff runs. Probably won't make it.)
Calais Campbell - 82.43 (Had a really strong 7 y-year peak, but the start and the end of his career were not as good. Also probably won't make it.)

Jordan and Campbell were mentioned in the post you quoted.

Agree on Wilson.

Stafford wouldn’t be in if he retired today. IMO his candidacy depends on how much longer he plays and how well he plays in that time.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Tyreek Hill? Really?

 

[IHEARTFF]

Tyreek Hill? Really?

I assume you thought Megatron was a lock yes?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Tyreek Hill? Really?

I assume you thought Megatron was a lock yes?

Talent wise yeah but I personally don’t think he played long enough

Guess I’d have to do a deeper look at Tyreek stats but doesn’t pass the smell test to me

 

[IHEARTFF]

Tyreek Hill? Really?

I assume you thought Megatron was a lock yes?

Talent wise yeah but I personally don’t think he played long enough

Guess I’d have to do a deeper look at Tyreek stats but doesn’t pass the smell test to me

They’re almost identical at this point regular season wise. Tyreek has postseason and probably has a couple years to add on.

 

[Tau837]

Tyreek Hill? Really?

I assume you thought Megatron was a lock yes?

Talent wise yeah but I personally don’t think he played long enough

Guess I’d have to do a deeper look at Tyreek stats but doesn’t pass the smell test to me

Hill:

• Has 5 AP1 (1 PR, 1 Flex, 3 WR), 1 AP2 (WR), and 8 Pro Bowls in 9 seasons
• Has been in the top 10 in receptions 3 times; in receiving yards 6 times, including leading the league once; and in receiving TDs 4 times, including leading the league once
• Was a key player who helped KC reach the AFCCG 4 times in his 4 seasons there, reach the Super Bowl twice, and win the Super Bowl once
• Was a great special teams returner (5 career return TDs) and a great occasional rusher (7.2 ypc)
• Just turned 31, so he probably has 3-5 more seasons, meaning he will likely end up reasonably high in some of the cumulative statistical categories

I don't know that he really needs the last 4 bullets to make the HOF. The first 4 are likely enough, and they are already in the books.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Lamar Jackson is not a HOF football player.

 

[Grahamburn]

LaVonte David

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Lamar Jackson is not a HOF football player.

Hall of fantasy football maybe

 

[FiredMartz]

Torry Holt !!!!

 

[Anarchy99]

Torry Holt !!!!

Which team does Holt currently play for?

 

[Tau837]

Lamar Jackson is not a HOF football player.

• 11 NFL players have won 2 or more MVPs. All of them are in the HOF or will be when eligible. Jackson is no exception.
• He has started at least 15 games in 4 NFL seasons, and he was AP1 in 3 of them.
• He is #3 all time in passer rating and within the top 10 all time in YPA, TD %, and interception %.
• He has the most rushing yards by a QB of all time and a lot of other QB rushing records.
• His career regular season winning percentage (0.745) is the 8th highest of any QB in history.

I'm not a Ravens fan or particular fan of Jackson, but it's obvious to me he would make the HOF even if he never played another down. Fortunately for him, he is presumably going to play a lot more football and have the chance to eliminate all doubters.

 

[FiredMartz]

Torry Holt !!!!

Which team does Holt currently play for?

The " I got screwed last selection team"

 

[Anarchy99]

Torry Holt !!!!

Which team does Holt currently play for?

The " I got screwed last selection team"

I'm right there with you on Holt needing to be in the HOF. He retired 13 years ago and still has the 13th highest HOF Monitor score. There are 21 other WR (and Devin Hester if we want to call him a WR) with lower scores that have been inducted.

 

[rockaction]

Lamar Jackson really needs to get some playoff wins or we're going to hear stuff like this for years. He's earned so many accolades from players and people that follow football that I'll defer to them. Three All-Pro nods in not too many years and twice the MVP? He's going to Canton.

 

[unckeyherb]

Barkley

Definitely not a lock. He's only rushed for one thousand yards four times and has a career total of 7,000 yards.

He has at least another two years of peak performance needed to make the HoF. Compilin' Frank Gore has 9,000 more yards than he does, and he's not assured of getting in.

I love Saquon as much as the next Eagles fan, but he had a lot of lean years a couple of hours up the turnpike. He'd need at least another two or three years of top flight RB production (not this year's production, but approaching it). The second ring he's getting this year will help also.

 

[barackdhouse]

Trying not to look at the thread until I've named a few.

Derrick Henry

Kelce but I feel like that's too easy. Kittle next closest TE but I don't think I can call it a lock. Ertz makes me scratch my head so I think that means no.

Mike Evans duh. Chase and Jefferson probably get there. Nuk is a head scratcher so no. Lamb has a chance. Tyreek has a good chance.

I think Stafford belongs but I don't know he'll get it. Hurts gets there. I think Lamar gets in. Josh Allen gets in.

 

[rockaction]

Just turned 31, so he probably has 3-5 more seasons

Five years is awfully optimistic. I'd start with two and go from there.

And I'm no pro football HoF expert (my performance in the Curtis Martin thread ages ago is testimony to that), but count me among the Torry Holt supporters.

 

[Tau837]

I’m totally in agreement on Holt. He should already be in IMO. But he does not fit the subject of this thread.

 

[TheWinz]

Derrick Henry's HOF monitor score of 54.37 is a joke.

Rushing yards - He is currently 19th with 11,423. The only players ahead of him not yet in the HoF are Frank Gore, Adrian Peterson, Fred Taylor, and Steven Jackson. He will surpass Taylor and Jackson in his next few games, and have only 2 RB locks in front of him. He will likely be top 10 by the end of this season, and when Gore/ADP make it in, the top 16 will all be in.

Rushing yards per game - Of all 32 RB's with at least 10K yards, here are the ones ahead of Henry's 84.0 yard per game average: Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton. You know what they all have in common? They are all in the HoF.

Rushing yards per carry - 43 RB's in history have at least 2K carries (Henry sits at 2355). Of them, here are the RB's with a higher YPC average than Henry's 4.9: Jim Brown and Barry Sanders. That's it. That's the whole list.

Rushing TD's - 5 RB's in history have more rushing TD's. 4 are already in, and Adrian Peterson will be in when he is eligible. Henry will likely end his career behind only Emmitt Smith and LaDainian Tomlinson, both of whom made the HoF in their first year on the ballot.

- 7 consecutive seasons with dougle-digit rushing TD's. He's in good company with only LT and ADP.
- Only member of the 2K club with a 1900 yard season as well.

He will make it in on his first ballot, no question about it.

 

[renesauz]

Barkley

Definitely not a lock. He's only rushed for one thousand yards four times and has a career total of 7,000 yards.

He has at least another two years of peak performance needed to make the HoF. Compilin' Frank Gore has 9,000 more yards than he does, and he's not assured of getting in.

I love Saquon as much as the next Eagles fan, but he had a lot of lean years a couple of hours up the turnpike. He'd need at least another two or three years of top flight RB production (not this year's production, but approaching it). The second ring he's getting this year will help also.

He's high on efficiency lists. Again, if he suffered a career ending injury in week 1 this coming year he might not get in, but as I said that mindset/caveat is too limiting to make any discussion here worthwhile. His career trajectory is absolutely on the HOF path. He doesn't need to play 6 more top years, he only needs a couple and he's not that old

 

[Tau837]

Barkley

Definitely not a lock. He's only rushed for one thousand yards four times and has a career total of 7,000 yards.

He has at least another two years of peak performance needed to make the HoF. Compilin' Frank Gore has 9,000 more yards than he does, and he's not assured of getting in.

I love Saquon as much as the next Eagles fan, but he had a lot of lean years a couple of hours up the turnpike. He'd need at least another two or three years of top flight RB production (not this year's production, but approaching it). The second ring he's getting this year will help also.

He's high on efficiency lists. Again, if he suffered a career ending injury in week 1 this coming year he might not get in, but as I said that mindset/caveat is too limiting to make any discussion here worthwhile. His career trajectory is absolutely on the HOF path. He doesn't need to play 6 more top years, he only needs a couple and he's not that old

Barkley had a great season in 2018 and was OROY and selected for the Pro Bowl. He had a great season in 2024 and was AP1 and OPOY and selected for the Pro Bowl. But his other 5 seasons are largely unremarkable -- 940/3904/24 rushing (4.15 ypc) and 197/1379/4 receiving (7.0 ypr). I know he lost a season to injury in there, but that is 5 consecutive seasons in his prime of non-HOF performance.

He is #24 all time in YPC and #20 in rushhing yards per game, but those averages and ranks will likely drop as he plays out his career. Aside from those, he isn't even in the top 50 in any other metrics.

Altogether that is a weak HOF resume.

Obviously, he isn't done and has some number of potentially high quality seasons still to play. But he has plenty of work to do to earn a HOF selection. I don't agree he only needs a couple more "top years" unless you are thinking he will replicate his 2024 OPOY season two more times.

 

[rockaction]

Barkley was really hurt for the better part of two years total. Just figured I'd chime in with that. There was the ACL and then there was that freak happening when somebody rolled up on his ankle, which caused him to miss four-eight games the very next year.

 

[TheWinz]

Barkley sits at 7216 yards rushing. The only HoF RB's with less rushing yards retired 50+ years ago.

 

[Tau837]

Barkley was really hurt for the better part of two years total. Just figured I'd chime in with that. There was the ACL and then there was that freak happening when somebody rolled up on his ankle, which caused him to miss four-eight games the very next year.

That is really unfortunate for him but doesn't change the fact that it negatively impacted his HOF chances.

 

[rockaction]

Barkley was really hurt for the better part of two years total. Just figured I'd chime in with that. There was the ACL and then there was that freak happening when somebody rolled up on his ankle, which caused him to miss four-eight games the very next year.

That is really unfortunate for him but doesn't change the fact that it negatively impacted his HOF chances.

Oh yeah. No doubt. See, this is why I sort of leave these things without any opinion. They're just facts, man. It doesn't go to one side or the other. Just stating why his aggregate stats aren't all that. No excuses.

 

[Payne]

To me, Stafford is in

10th all time passing yards and still going
10th in games played and still going
Fastest to 30,000 yards
Fastest to 40,000
Top 10 in: attempts, completions, yards and touchdowns
6th all time in yards per game
One of only five to throw for 5,000 yards in a season
Most 4th quarter comebacks
Super Bowl ring