AP is playing! What a warrior! (1 Viewer)

[Donnybrook]

Ben Goessling on Adrien Peterson

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/1376/after-tragedy-petersons-turned-to-football?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Here's something you need to know about Peterson -- and it's something that gets lost behind the man's relentless positivity and boyish enthusiasm: He is deeply acquainted with sorrow.

He experienced it at age 7, when his older brother Brian was killed by a drunk driver and passed away in Peterson's arms. He dealt with it through high school and college, when his father spent time in prison for dealing drugs while Adrian became a Heisman Trophy runner-up at Oklahoma. And he tasted it again right before the NFL scouting combine in 2007, when his half-brother Chris Paris was shot the night before Peterson was scheduled to work out for all 32 teams. So while the idea of the playing field as a hiding place might sound like a tired old saw from many athletes, it's a philosophy Peterson has tested and found true throughout his life.

 

[cstu]

Adrian Peterson says he runs angry because football is the former Oklahoma running back's calling and his means of coping.

Nicknamed "A.D.," short for "all day" when he was a hyperactive child, the 2004 Heisman Trophy runner-up refuses to run out of bounds. It's his all-day tough way of honoring those taken from him.

Feel his pain.

Peterson saw his older brother and best friend, Brian, 9, killed by a drunken driver, who ran him down as he rode his bicycle. Peterson, then 7, watched in horror.

Peterson's father, Nelson, who coached his pee-wee running back son to give as much punishment on the field as he got, was sentenced to 10 years in prison for laundering drug money. Peterson was 13.

The night before Peterson's Indianapolis scouting combine workout for 32 NFL teams, his half brother, Chris Paris, 19, was shot and killed in Houston. Peterson felt as close to Paris as he did to his biological brother.

 

[FUBAR]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

he reportedly just learned this kid was his so it sounds like he barely knew him. Kind of explains why he is able to play.

Well, that answers that. He never cared about the kid when he was alive. He's a great human being.

Love judgment from people who know nothing about the situation.

 

[BaBastage]

- For those of you who say, "AP was the father. It doesn't matter whether or not they were close, he has a responsibility". I beg to differ. While there are plenty of deadbeat fathers who bail on pregnant women, there are also gold-digging women who manage to get celebrities and athletes into bed in order to get pregnant... again we don't know the facts.

So this "gold digger" waited nearly two years to tell AP he was the dad?

A paternity test takes almost no time at all.. days at the most. If she was after the $, she woulda had it right off the bat.

I'm not calling anyone a gold-digger; thank you very much. There are infinite other possibilities in the spectrum, including "Accidents happen and mom never wanted to involve dad."

My premise holds true; we don't know the details and therefore we have no authority of which to judge.

 

[FUBAR]

I have no issue with him playing Sunday...but as a parent I don't understand how he went back to Minnesota the day before they were going to take his son off the ventilator. I can't imagine any parent leaving for work instead of staying to say goodbye.

The child was already gone. He was being kept alive by machines.

Even then, i would react differently. But that's me, and thankfully i know my kids. AD likely would have had to deal more with reporters and extra crap that he shouldn't have to in this situation.

 

[bizeast]

Ben Goessling on Adrien Peterson

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/1376/after-tragedy-petersons-turned-to-football?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Here's something you need to know about Peterson -- and it's something that gets lost behind the man's relentless positivity and boyish enthusiasm: He is deeply acquainted with sorrow.

He experienced it at age 7, when his older brother Brian was killed by a drunk driver and passed away in Peterson's arms. He dealt with it through high school and college, when his father spent time in prison for dealing drugs while Adrian became a Heisman Trophy runner-up at Oklahoma. And he tasted it again right before the NFL scouting combine in 2007, when his half-brother Chris Paris was shot the night before Peterson was scheduled to work out for all 32 teams. So while the idea of the playing field as a hiding place might sound like a tired old saw from many athletes, it's a philosophy Peterson has tested and found true throughout his life.

Someone is going to be cutting onions when he takes the field this tomorrow.

 

[bizeast]

- For those of you who say, "AP was the father. It doesn't matter whether or not they were close, he has a responsibility". I beg to differ. While there are plenty of deadbeat fathers who bail on pregnant women, there are also gold-digging women who manage to get celebrities and athletes into bed in order to get pregnant... again we don't know the facts.

So this "gold digger" waited nearly two years to tell AP he was the dad?

A paternity test takes almost no time at all.. days at the most. If she was after the $, she woulda had it right off the bat.

I'm not calling anyone a gold-digger; thank you very much. There are other possibilities, including "Accidents happen and mom never wanted to involve dad."

My premise holds true; we don't know the details and therefore we have no authority of which to judge.

This conversation is one of the most callously asinine and futile I've ever seen; why are you people even bothering slinging around this wild conjecture? You'll never know if you're right or wrong, and even if you were it would be largely irrelevant and boil down to nothing more than juicy gossip.

 

[Sarnoff]

If some random chick I hooked up with one night in college found me on facebook 20 years later and said "I never told you, but that night I got pregnant and had a son. But he passed away, years ago", would it make me a monster if I did not grieve?

 

[cstu]

If some random chick I hooked up with one night in college found me on facebook 20 years later and said "I never told you, but that night I got pregnant and had a son. But he passed away, years ago", would it make me a monster if I did not grieve?

No, but it's a little different than finding out a couple months ago you have a two year old and then after you are done dealing with that shock the child is violently killed before you can meet him.

 

[renesauz]

If some random chick I hooked up with one night in college found me on facebook 20 years later and said "I never told you, but that night I got pregnant and had a son. But he passed away, years ago", would it make me a monster if I did not grieve?

No, but it's a little different than finding out a couple months ago you have a two year old and then after you are done dealing with that shock the child is violently killed before you can meet him.

almost as different as "finding out a couple months ago you have a two year old and then after you are done dealing with that shock the child is violently killed before you can meet him." is from actually seeing and raising the child daily

 

[Zow]

Is there we all pretend to know what Peterson should be thinking and doing?

 

[Biabreakable]

http://www.dorkly.com/article/52698/5-quotes-from-star-wars-that-are-just-total-lies

 

[Short Corner]

Relax. Everyone deals with tragedy in their own way. Because he plays, doesn't mean he doesn't care. Would you have more respect for him if he sat in a dark room with a bottle of whiskey?

I'd have more respect for him if he sat at his dying kids side and never gave hope.

Make sure you start a thread if you lose a child so we can all criticize how you cope with it.

This is just an azzhole comment. There are obviously a lot of people posting in this thread who either don't have children or don't have close relationships with their children.

When you are judging others because of how they cope with the loss of a child you should expect the azzhole comments. Because doing so would make you an azzhole.

 

[ghostguy123]

Maybe we NEED the apocalypse.

Not even something that takes us all out slow like zombies, or solar flares, or a meteor that causes an ice age.

We just need to be blown the F up!!!!!! We are real close to that tipping point where we just don't deserve what we have.

 

[Apple Jack]

Is this the fatherlyier than thou thread? Am I in the right place?

 

[T with T]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

How can we judge this man.

How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.

Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.

Agreed.

What is he supposed to do, stay and mourn with his ex that dated this scumbag?

wasn't it his mother not his x???? that's what it was reported unless it got changed which in the media wouldn't be a surprise... I don't look at him as negative light at all for playing... It's like when Favre played the day after his dad died.... Usually players in this situation put up Amazing numbers as they are putting it all on the field....

 

[Ballstein]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

How can we judge this man.

How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.

Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.

Agreed.

What is he supposed to do, stay and mourn with his ex that dated this scumbag?

wasn't it his mother not his x???? that's what it was reported unless it got changed which in the media wouldn't be a surprise... I don't look at him as negative light at all for playing... It's like when Favre played the day after his dad died.... Usually players in this situation put up Amazing numbers as they are putting it all on the field....

not even close to losing a child. Brett's father would have wanted brett to play.

 

[T with T]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

he reportedly just learned this kid was his so it sounds like he barely knew him. Kind of explains why he is able to play.

Well, that answers that. He never cared about the kid when he was alive. He's a great human being.

Love judgment from people who know nothing about the situation.

I heard that to... he didn't really care about the kid ... he was an illegitimate kid.. sure it is a tragedy and very sad... I think it would have been handled differently had it been his 2 prized kids that are from his Girl he is with now.... this child that died was from a baby momma and he didn't even want the kid as evidenced from the fact it didn't live with him, nor did he regularly make time to see this child.... I think it's very sad it happened but in his eyes it may not be as devastating... how many ghetoo punks have illegitimate kids that they don't take care of... could be something similar.

 

[T with T]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

How can we judge this man.

How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.

Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.

Agreed.

What is he supposed to do, stay and mourn with his ex that dated this scumbag?

wasn't it his mother not his x???? that's what it was reported unless it got changed which in the media wouldn't be a surprise... I don't look at him as negative light at all for playing... It's like when Favre played the day after his dad died.... Usually players in this situation put up Amazing numbers as they are putting it all on the field....

not even close to losing a child. Brett's father would have wanted brett to play.

BUT he didn't even care about the kid when he is living... Now when he is dead then it's how much he loved, cared about this kid... comeon guys wake up grow up... it's sad and the fact a child was murdered is the point... AP being the father is really irrelevant when you have no interest in the person... If I had a child I didn't want and didn't care about and my baby momma's x or my mothers x beat it senseless, yes I would be hurt but not as much if it were my prized kids like the 2 Ap cares about right?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Flushed a tissue. Getting ready to go out and watch the games. I'm Warrior.

 

[Phenix]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

Especially considering he flew back home before his kid was taken off life support. To be honest, it seems like it was a hassle for him. Sorry a kid he created suffered from injuries that eventually took the little guys life. Sorry this took up some of your time AP, you got a kids game to play.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

 

[Short Corner]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

How can we judge this man.

How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.

Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.

Agreed.

What is he supposed to do, stay and mourn with his ex that dated this scumbag?

wasn't it his mother not his x???? that's what it was reported unless it got changed which in the media wouldn't be a surprise... I don't look at him as negative light at all for playing... It's like when Favre played the day after his dad died.... Usually players in this situation put up Amazing numbers as they are putting it all on the field....

not even close to losing a child. Brett's father would have wanted brett to play.

BUT he didn't even care about the kid when he is living... Now when he is dead then it's how much he loved, cared about this kid... comeon guys wake up grow up... it's sad and the fact a child was murdered is the point... AP being the father is really irrelevant when you have no interest in the person... If I had a child I didn't want and didn't care about and my baby momma's x or my mothers x beat it senseless, yes I would be hurt but not as much if it were my prized kids like the 2 Ap cares about right?

link?

He just learned about the kid recently. You have no idea how much he would have cared about the kid. The fact that you would treat your own that way speaks volumes about you though.

 

[Short Corner]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

Sorry to break it to you but if AD wasn't the father you wouldn't have heard about it.

 

[Man of Zen]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

Especially considering he flew back home before his kid was taken off life support. To be honest, it seems like it was a hassle for him. Sorry a kid he created suffered from injuries that eventually took the little guys life. Sorry this took up some of your time AP, you got a kids game to play.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

AP's the star. The media's supposed to make it about the star.

What's sad is that AP made it about AP.

 

[Phenix]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

Sorry to break it to you but if AD wasn't the father you wouldn't have heard about it.

:buzzer sound: try again.

It was in the news as a story first without any mention of ADP as any child killed at the hands of a psycho is always in the news. Then people were then connecting dots as ADP was spotted in the area. Good try though in an attempt to make your point, but it failed.

 

[OU#1]

I hate several people in this thread now. Several of you probably didn't even know he was a father? Shark Pool be damned.

Enough already. You don't know anything about AP or how he's dealing with this. Let the man do what he loves and be silent. Respect his decision, because it's HIS. AP has never been nothing but a 100% class act. He is good people, how can you even question him in a time like this?

I expect him to go nuts today btw.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

Sorry to break it to you but if AD wasn't the father you wouldn't have heard about it.

:buzzer sound: try again.

It was in the news as a story first without any mention of ADP as any child killed at the hands of a psycho is always in the news. Then people were then connecting dots as ADP was spotted in the area. Good try though in an attempt to make your point, but it failed.

Child was not killed until after Peterson entered the picture. These cases, unfortunately, are a dime a dozen around the country and don't rise above local news coverage absent a compelling angle - attractive white mother, sports star, celebrity, etc.

 

[CariocaSean]

How can you fault Adrian Peterson for playing football today? The man was born to play and lives to play. Call it a kid's game all you like but look at what happens in Houston when things start to go bad. For better or worse you have entire communities who are heavily emotionally invested in football. Peterson does actually have a responsibility to his teammates, to himself, and to the fans.

 

[identikit]

ADP, on why he's playing today:

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/389421292564135936/photo/1

Not that it matters, but that's good enough for me.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

'Merica's favorite pastime:

Passing judgement on others....especially on those you will never ever meet in real life anyway, amirite? The more hypocritical, the better!

It's the easiest (and laziest) way for the mediocre to boost their self-respect and self-image.

As far as I'm concerned, AP can do whatever he wants in his grieving process for a child he never knew.

It's an unspeakable, heartbreaking tragedy, Playing in today's game will change nothing; NOT playing in today's game will change nothing.

We all have different coping mechanisms, and one is not superior to another.

 

[T with T]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

Especially considering he flew back home before his kid was taken off life support. To be honest, it seems like it was a hassle for him. Sorry a kid he created suffered from injuries that eventually took the little guys life. Sorry this took up some of your time AP, you got a kids game to play.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

yes agree phe had AP cared about his kid more maybe he wouldn't have been in this predicament... At the sioux falls motel or apt. complex with horrible babysitters, a cracked out 27 year old pot dealing loser, and a crack whore ??? WTF If that was one of AP's kids he cared about he would never let the little guy in that environment..... This is sad because it is turned into a big will he won't he play and the saddest thing about this is that AP just had this baby and didn't care... Caring and affection are two things you would think every parent would give to their child or their own seed.... I would never throw my baby out to the wolves no matter how much I despised the mother... This is just an all around sad case.

 

[T with T]

I hate several people in this thread now. Several of you probably didn't even know he was a father? Shark Pool be damned.

Enough already. You don't know anything about AP or how he's dealing with this. Let the man do what he loves and be silent. Respect his decision, because it's HIS. AP has never been nothing but a 100% class act. He is good people, how can you even question him in a time like this?

I expect him to go nuts today btw.

He is good people and I respect the #### out of that man as a player, person. He is great off field and never in trouble... He is a kind, nice person but the fact that he didn't care more bothers me... Had he cared more this wouldn't have happened... Where were his other 2 kids???? the one's that live with him? they weren't with some psycho at the sioux falls Inn... wtf.

 

[monk]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

Sorry to break it to you but if AD wasn't the father you wouldn't have heard about it.

Well then it's a good thing that AP's the "father"

 

[Manster]

I am a parent and love my kids more than anything in the world. I did not even begin to fathom this kind of love before having kids. Only parents can know what I'm talking about.

That said, when I saw the news of AP's son dying, I felt very sad for him and all the family of the little guy. No parent should outlive a child. A two year old boy is as precious as anything on this earth.

Now, with that said, I cant speculate on whats going on in AP's mind, other than agony. I also do not understand him playing this weekend........

Edit to add:

Even if he did not really know his son, now he will never have the chance. Very sad, and I hope they fry the loser who did this to an innocent 2 year old.

 

[monk]

How can you fault Adrian Peterson for playing football today? The man was born to play and lives to play. Call it a kid's game all you like but look at what happens in Houston when things start to go bad. For better or worse you have entire communities who are heavily emotionally invested in football. Peterson does actually have a responsibility to his teammates, to himself, and to the fans.

And what would his fans and teammates think of him if he missed a game because his child had just been killed.

Would he be released by the Vikings? Would fans be burning his jerseys in the streets?

 

[CariocaSean]

How can you fault Adrian Peterson for playing football today? The man was born to play and lives to play. Call it a kid's game all you like but look at what happens in Houston when things start to go bad. For better or worse you have entire communities who are heavily emotionally invested in football. Peterson does actually have a responsibility to his teammates, to himself, and to the fans.

And what would his fans and teammates think of him if he missed a game because his child had just been killed.

Would he be released by the Vikings? Would fans be burning his jerseys in the streets?

I don't think they would fault him for it. That isn't really what I am saying. I don't think he should be faulted whether he plays or not.

 

[cr8f]

I predict 5 touchdowns like when Favre's dad died.

 

[renesauz]

I hate several people in this thread now. Several of you probably didn't even know he was a father? Shark Pool be damned.

Enough already. You don't know anything about AP or how he's dealing with this. Let the man do what he loves and be silent. Respect his decision, because it's HIS. AP has never been nothing but a 100% class act. He is good people, how can you even question him in a time like this?

I expect him to go nuts today btw.

He is good people and I respect the #### out of that man as a player, person. He is great off field and never in trouble... He is a kind, nice person but the fact that he didn't care more bothers me... Had he cared more this wouldn't have happened... Where were his other 2 kids???? the one's that live with him? they weren't with some psycho at the sioux falls Inn... wtf.

It's my understanding AP just found out about this kid a couple of months ago. If true, it doesn't seem like he ever had much of a chance to form any kind of attachment to the kid, and therefore it's ridiculous to even suggest negative judgment of him. If he'd only seen him once or twice, and never had a chance to become emotionally attached, it's quite likely he wouldn't have even known what kind of environment the child was living in.

 

[Short Corner]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

Sorry to break it to you but if AD wasn't the father you wouldn't have heard about it.

:buzzer sound: try again.

It was in the news as a story first without any mention of ADP as any child killed at the hands of a psycho is always in the news. Then people were then connecting dots as ADP was spotted in the area. Good try though in an attempt to make your point, but it failed.

:buzzersound:

Never heard of it until it was AD related.

 

[Short Corner]

How can you fault Adrian Peterson for playing football today? The man was born to play and lives to play. Call it a kid's game all you like but look at what happens in Houston when things start to go bad. For better or worse you have entire communities who are heavily emotionally invested in football. Peterson does actually have a responsibility to his teammates, to himself, and to the fans.

And what would his fans and teammates think of him if he missed a game because his child had just been killed.

Would he be released by the Vikings? Would fans be burning his jerseys in the streets?

Not their place to judge how he copes. Kind of like now with all of the ingrates in here.

 

[Short Corner]

I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.

I feel that the media is making this about AP and not the kid, sad really.

Sorry to break it to you but if AD wasn't the father you wouldn't have heard about it.

Well then it's a good thing that AP's the "father"

If you say so.

 

[monk]

How can you fault Adrian Peterson for playing football today? The man was born to play and lives to play. Call it a kid's game all you like but look at what happens in Houston when things start to go bad. For better or worse you have entire communities who are heavily emotionally invested in football. Peterson does actually have a responsibility to his teammates, to himself, and to the fans.

And what would his fans and teammates think of him if he missed a game because his child had just been killed.

Would he be released by the Vikings? Would fans be burning his jerseys in the streets?

Not their place to judge how he copes. Kind of like now with all of the ingrates in here.

Hey Dumb ### ... CariocaSean said Peterson has a responsibility to his teammates and fans ...so i'm not quite sure what you are babbling about.

Also "All of the ingrates in here"? Are you sure you know what means?

 

[Short Corner]

How can you fault Adrian Peterson for playing football today? The man was born to play and lives to play. Call it a kid's game all you like but look at what happens in Houston when things start to go bad. For better or worse you have entire communities who are heavily emotionally invested in football. Peterson does actually have a responsibility to his teammates, to himself, and to the fans.

And what would his fans and teammates think of him if he missed a game because his child had just been killed.

Would he be released by the Vikings? Would fans be burning his jerseys in the streets?

Not their place to judge how he copes. Kind of like now with all of the ingrates in here.

Hey Dumb ### ... CariocaSean said Peterson has a responsibility to his teammates and fans ...so i'm not quite sure what you are babbling about.

Also "All of the ingrates in here"? Are you sure you know what means?

lol...don't lie, you had to look it up right?

It is used a bit differently in certain subcultures. You seem pretty resourceful, you can probably figure it out on your own.