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POSTED 11:16 a.m. EDT, August 6, 2007ANOTHER BENGALS ARREST?It's been a while since a member of the Cincinnati Bengals has been busted. Specifically, the last one came more than two months ago, when former Bengals linebacker A.J. Nicholson was arrested on assault charges.We've heard from two different tipsters that another Bengals arrest has occurred. We've got the name of the player, and we're working to corroborate the information before we reveal the name.Stay tuned.
 
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :shrug:

 
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :wall:
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Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :shrug:
Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.
 
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :lmao:
Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.
Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.
 
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :rolleyes:
Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.
Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.
Lewis has built and maintained a team that has had a number of guys with questionable character who he got for bargain prices/draft picks for precisely that reason. He has time and again given them second chances, only cutting them if they're marginal players or if it was clear that the league was going to give them the hatchet anyway. Is he responsible for the arrests? No.

Is he responsible for the fact that by cutting corners on character he's made the Bengals more entertaining off the field than on? Absolutely.

 
redman said:
Family Matters said:
Sweat Hog said:
Family Matters said:
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :lmao:
Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.
Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.
Lewis has built and maintained a team that has had a number of guys with questionable character who he got for bargain prices/draft picks for precisely that reason. He has time and again given them second chances, only cutting them if they're marginal players or if it was clear that the league was going to give them the hatchet anyway. Is he responsible for the arrests? No.

Is he responsible for the fact that by cutting corners on character he's made the Bengals more entertaining off the field than on? Absolutely.
And you can insert the name of numerous other coaches and owners from small market teams that fit that same description. The Bengals are hardly uniques in that regard. It's hardly a basis for firing a coach that has made momumental strides with this team.I'll say this again, players are responsible for their own actions. Plain and simple. Quit blaming the coach for what grown men do off the field. They are not baby sitters.

Now if you really want to play the blame game then why would the NFL allow these players the right to be drafted or acquired in the first place? If the comish and owners are so serious about who they associate with then why not weed them out in the first place? They have the resources to do it but yet they contunually allow these guys back in.

Besides, we all know the truth about the Bengal bashing. FBG's is loaded with Steeler fans and that what drives these threads. So far there have been 19 posts by 6 known Steeler fans about nothing. We have no information at this time and yet a thread is started about something that "might" have happened and 6 Steeler fans want to come in here and bash the Bengals. Gotta love that.

 
redman said:
Family Matters said:
Sweat Hog said:
Family Matters said:
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :wall:
Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.
Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.
Lewis has built and maintained a team that has had a number of guys with questionable character who he got for bargain prices/draft picks for precisely that reason. He has time and again given them second chances, only cutting them if they're marginal players or if it was clear that the league was going to give them the hatchet anyway. Is he responsible for the arrests? No.

Is he responsible for the fact that by cutting corners on character he's made the Bengals more entertaining off the field than on? Absolutely.
And you can insert the name of numerous other coaches and owners from small market teams that fit that same description. The Bengals are hardly uniques in that regard. It's hardly a basis for firing a coach that has made momumental strides with this team.I'll say this again, players are responsible for their own actions. Plain and simple. Quit blaming the coach for what grown men do off the field. They are not baby sitters.

Now if you really want to play the blame game then why would the NFL allow these players the right to be drafted or acquired in the first place? If the comish and owners are so serious about who they associate with then why not weed them out in the first place? They have the resources to do it but yet they contunually allow these guys back in.

Besides, we all know the truth about the Bengal bashing. FBG's is loaded with Steeler fans and that what drives these threads. So far there have been 19 posts by 6 known Steeler fans about nothing. We have no information at this time and yet a thread is started about something that "might" have happened and 6 Steeler fans want to come in here and bash the Bengals. Gotta love that.
You are the master of denial. The Bengals aren't unique with their legal problems. Marvin Lewis should take no responsibility. ;) Now we shouldn't start threads because we don't have confirmation? PFT has a story that is developing, and the Bengal homer board has rumors that would back that up. It's not like people are pulling things out of thin air to besmirch your beloved Bengals. It makes perfect sense to start a topic when there's smoke in an area that is more prone than any other to full blown forest fires.

 
redman said:
Family Matters said:
Sweat Hog said:
Family Matters said:
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :wall:
Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.
Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.
Lewis has built and maintained a team that has had a number of guys with questionable character who he got for bargain prices/draft picks for precisely that reason. He has time and again given them second chances, only cutting them if they're marginal players or if it was clear that the league was going to give them the hatchet anyway. Is he responsible for the arrests? No.

Is he responsible for the fact that by cutting corners on character he's made the Bengals more entertaining off the field than on? Absolutely.
And you can insert the name of numerous other coaches and owners from small market teams that fit that same description. The Bengals are hardly uniques in that regard. It's hardly a basis for firing a coach that has made momumental strides with this team.I'll say this again, players are responsible for their own actions. Plain and simple. Quit blaming the coach for what grown men do off the field. They are not baby sitters.

Now if you really want to play the blame game then why would the NFL allow these players the right to be drafted or acquired in the first place? If the comish and owners are so serious about who they associate with then why not weed them out in the first place? They have the resources to do it but yet they contunually allow these guys back in.

Besides, we all know the truth about the Bengal bashing. FBG's is loaded with Steeler fans and that what drives these threads. So far there have been 19 posts by 6 known Steeler fans about nothing. We have no information at this time and yet a thread is started about something that "might" have happened and 6 Steeler fans want to come in here and bash the Bengals. Gotta love that.
You are the master of denial. The Bengals aren't unique with their legal problems. Marvin Lewis should take no responsibility. ;) Now we shouldn't start threads because we don't have confirmation? PFT has a story that is developing, and the Bengal homer board has rumors that would back that up. It's not like people are pulling things out of thin air to besmirch your beloved Bengals. It makes perfect sense to start a topic when there's smoke in an area that is more prone than any other to full blown forest fires.
'Cmon ACP. You should know better. When the shoe is on the other foot you are first one to defend the Steeler camp. So what's to deny exactly? That some players are idiots? You want to bash a guy for what he did then go ahead and I'll join you. But to blame the coach is lame. To suggest this is anything more than Steeler fans bashing is lame as well. Your post merely proves my point.

 
Why should Marvin be held accountable? Because of the 10 or so players arrested all but maybe 2 were known problem children in college. So he took a chance. And sometime you get burned, excett it's been every player with a questionable rep that he has gotten burned with.

Now to complain that every team has these problems, you are correct, team have players get arrested all over the league. But the Bengals have had numerous arrests, numerous in a very short span. And it hasn't just been a bunch of practice squad scrubs, it's been starters and some of them have been repeaters. It gets ridiculous.

 
Besides, we all know the truth about the Bengal bashing. FBG's is loaded with Steeler fans and that what drives these threads. So far there have been 19 posts by 6 known Steeler fans about nothing. We have no information at this time and yet a thread is started about something that "might" have happened and 6 Steeler fans want to come in here and bash the Bengals. Gotta love that.
Whoa now, I didn't bash the Bengals. All I said that if were true that Henry got busted again for pot he was a bigger knucklehead than I thought -- something we should be in total agreement with.I will say this though: IF it is true the Bengals should immediately cut him.

 
Family Matters said:
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :blackdot:
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Besides, we all know the truth about the Bengal bashing. FBG's is loaded with Steeler fans and that what drives these threads. So far there have been 19 posts by 6 known Steeler fans about nothing. We have no information at this time and yet a thread is started about something that "might" have happened and 6 Steeler fans want to come in here and bash the Bengals. Gotta love that.
Whoa now, I didn't bash the Bengals. All I said that if were true that Henry got busted again for pot he was a bigger knucklehead than I thought -- something we should be in total agreement with.I will say this though: IF it is true the Bengals should immediately cut him.
I couldn't agree more. I really don't understand why he hasn't already been suspended from the NFL altogether. It's not like he made a mistake that can be frogiven. Heck, even 2 mistakes. But this guy is never going to change. If the NFL ever wanted to make an example, Henry has been the textbook case to do it with. Instead I find myself wondering why they drag their feet on it. As an NFL fan it's nuts. As a Bengals fan it's downright embarrassing.
 
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Marvin is not responsible for his players off the field behavior.Marvin is partially responsible for character evaluation and the decision for potentially troublesome individuals to become Bengals.Marvin is primarily responsible for setting the tone of the locker room and what is expected of players as Cincinnati Bengals.Marvin is completely responsible for administering the team consequence for these off the field behaviors.Even the most blindly passionate Bengals fan has to accept that the front office has taken multiple chances with known poor character players. Marvin is not directly responsible for their issues but has definitely been an active enabler of allowing less than desirable behaviors to persist by tolerating them with no consequence.Is there another team with a list that even rivals the Bengals?

1. Chris Henry (June 14th, ‘06) - providing alcohol to three underaged females, but did he score? 2. Chris Henry (Jan. 28th, ‘06) - possession of a concealed firearm, improper exhibition of firearm, aggravated assault with firearm, that’s a lot of firearm action 3. A.J. Nicholson (June 3rd, ‘06) - burglary, vandalism, grant theft, *bonus points for stealing electronics from a teammate, that’s not easy 4. Frostee Rucker (June 21st, ‘06) - vandalism, spousal battery, just don’t beat up that blackberry 5. Reggie McNeal (Dec. 3rd, ‘06) - resisting arrest and drug possession, always fun to catch the cops with an elbow to the chest 6. Eric Steinbach (Aug. 5th, ‘06) - boating under the influence, admit it, you didn’t even know that counted 7. A.J. Nicholson (May 18th, ‘06) - domestic violence, he restarted the streak after they had gone four months in between arrests 8. Chris Henry (June 3rd, ‘06) - DUI, 0.092, I’d blow that from a sip of Manischweitz 9. Odell Thurman (Sept. 25th, ‘06) - drunken driving, a 0.18, but he was more sober than Chris Henry or Reggie McNeal, so it’s all good 10. Deltha O’Neal (Dec. 9th, ‘06) - DWI, come on a 0.10 shouldn’t even count 11. Matthias Askew (July 22nd, ‘06) - disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, failure to comply with police officer’s order, obstructing justice, kinda boring 12. Chris Henry (Dec. 15 ‘05) - weed possession, just kids being kids 13. Quincy Wilson (June 17, ‘07) - disorderly conduct, kind of weak, but cool that the bride and groom were arrested too
Please don't even bother to respond unless a comparable list can be provided for another NFL franchise over the same time frame. Or any time frame.None of this is Bengal bashing. It is fact. Something has to be done to clean up their image and Marvin should be held largely accountable for doing it.BTW, I hope Henry was a training camp practicing, not smoking dope. I'm rooting for this kid to get his act together and turn into the second coming of Randy Moss. Easily the most physically gifted receiver on the team.
 
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"POSTED 3:04 p.m. EDT, August 6, 2007

BENGALS HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF A NEW ARREST

There's a rumor sweeping the Intergoogle of another arrest of a Bengals player. But, for now, it appears that it's merely the latest example of what we'll call from this point forward the Tedy Bruschi phenomenon.

A couple of weeks ago, there were rampant rumors that Bruschi had died. Though untrue, the rumor spread like wildfire, even after reports surfaced that Bruschi was fine.

As the rumor goes, the arrest is supposed to be disclosed on Monday afternoon. But we now have a feeling that this rumor is simply that -- a rumor.

And if it's not a rumor, we figure that someone will break the news soon enough. "

 
Family Matters said:
Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :confused:
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Marvin is not responsible for his players off the field behavior.Marvin is partially responsible for character evaluation and the decision for potentially troublesome individuals to become Bengals.Marvin is primarily responsible for setting the tone of the locker room and what is expected of players as Cincinnati Bengals.Marvin is completely responsible for administering the team consequence for these off the field behaviors.Even the most blindly passionate Bengals fan has to accept that the front office has taken multiple chances with known poor character players. Marvin is not directly responsible for their issues but has definitely been an active enabler of allowing less than desirable behaviors to persist by tolerating them with no consequence.Is there another team with a list that even rivals the Bengals?

1. Chris Henry (June 14th, ‘06) - providing alcohol to three underaged females, but did he score? 2. Chris Henry (Jan. 28th, ‘06) - possession of a concealed firearm, improper exhibition of firearm, aggravated assault with firearm, that’s a lot of firearm action 3. A.J. Nicholson (June 3rd, ‘06) - burglary, vandalism, grant theft, *bonus points for stealing electronics from a teammate, that’s not easy 4. Frostee Rucker (June 21st, ‘06) - vandalism, spousal battery, just don’t beat up that blackberry 5. Reggie McNeal (Dec. 3rd, ‘06) - resisting arrest and drug possession, always fun to catch the cops with an elbow to the chest 6. Eric Steinbach (Aug. 5th, ‘06) - boating under the influence, admit it, you didn’t even know that counted 7. A.J. Nicholson (May 18th, ‘06) - domestic violence, he restarted the streak after they had gone four months in between arrests 8. Chris Henry (June 3rd, ‘06) - DUI, 0.092, I’d blow that from a sip of Manischweitz 9. Odell Thurman (Sept. 25th, ‘06) - drunken driving, a 0.18, but he was more sober than Chris Henry or Reggie McNeal, so it’s all good 10. Deltha O’Neal (Dec. 9th, ‘06) - DWI, come on a 0.10 shouldn’t even count 11. Matthias Askew (July 22nd, ‘06) - disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, failure to comply with police officer’s order, obstructing justice, kinda boring 12. Chris Henry (Dec. 15 ‘05) - weed possession, just kids being kids 13. Quincy Wilson (June 17, ‘07) - disorderly conduct, kind of weak, but cool that the bride and groom were arrested too
Please don't even bother to respond unless a comparable list can be provided for another NFL franchise over the same time frame. Or any time frame.None of this is Bengal bashing. It is fact. Something has to be done to clean up their image and Marvin should be held largely accountable for doing it.BTW, I hope Henry was a training camp practicing, not smoking dope. I'm rooting for this kid to get his act together and turn into the second coming of Randy Moss. Easily the most physically gifted receiver on the team.
Well based on this report it appears to me they have cleaned up their act. 1 problem in '07? How many have the Steelers had with their players and coaches? Please list them for comparison.
 
This same old sorry debate again? *Obviously* Lewis is accountable for the turds he has either directed or allowed the team to assemble. No brainer. It seems obvious to me that Lewis and the rest of the "gamblers" in the Bengal front office are primarily responsible for Goodell's new edict that teams themselves could be penalized for assembling turds under the new conduct policy. Anyone care to argue that development was unrelated to the Bengals having 1/4 of their team arrested last year? I thought not.

 
Well based on this report it appears to me they have cleaned up their act. 1 problem in '07? How many have the Steelers had with their players and coaches? Please list them for comparison.
Be my guest. Please list the number of arrests of Steelers or any other team's personnel over the same time frame. It's not about Bengals vs. Steelers. It's about Bengals having a statistically significant higher incidence of legal issues than any other NFL team.

It's not even comparable.

I get how a fan can argue the genesis of these issues, but the facts can't be argued or spun to shed a positive light on the Bengals recent past.

If you want to simply discuss behaviors vs. arrests, again, be my guest. But don't forget:

Henry, accused on a Tuesday by a 16 year old who alleged he was assaulted by Henry the previous Friday night. Charges dropped when no evidence could be found to support the charges.

Odell Thurman arrested for allegedly beating up a man at a party, in front of dozens of others. Then accused of returning with a small group of armed people, waving guns around and putting a gun in the mouth of the guy he beat up. Charges were dropped due to lack of evidence, recanting by the man who pressed charges.
 
POSTED 3:04 p.m. EDT, August 6, 2007BENGALS HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF A NEW ARRESTThere's a rumor sweeping the Intergoogle of another arrest of a Bengals player. But, for now, it appears that it's merely the latest example of what we'll call from this point forward the Tedy Bruschi phenomenon.A couple of weeks ago, there were rampant rumors that Bruschi had died. Though untrue, the rumor spread like wildfire, even after reports surfaced that Bruschi was fine.As the rumor goes, the arrest is supposed to be disclosed on Monday afternoon. But we now have a feeling that this rumor is simply that -- a rumor.And if it's not a rumor, we figure that someone will break the news soon enough.
 
Well based on this report it appears to me they have cleaned up their act. 1 problem in '07? How many have the Steelers had with their players and coaches? Please list them for comparison.
Be my guest. Please list the number of arrests of Steelers or any other team's personnel over the same time frame. It's not about Bengals vs. Steelers. It's about Bengals having a statistically significant higher incidence of legal issues than any other NFL team.

It's not even comparable.

I get how a fan can argue the genesis of these issues, but the facts can't be argued or spun to shed a positive light on the Bengals recent past.

If you want to simply discuss behaviors vs. arrests, again, be my guest. But don't forget:

Henry, accused on a Tuesday by a 16 year old who alleged he was assaulted by Henry the previous Friday night. Charges dropped when no evidence could be found to support the charges.

Odell Thurman arrested for allegedly beating up a man at a party, in front of dozens of others. Then accused of returning with a small group of armed people, waving guns around and putting a gun in the mouth of the guy he beat up. Charges were dropped due to lack of evidence, recanting by the man who pressed charges.
You're the one interested in listing what the Bengals did and asked what have they done about it. As they have improved since last year, the Steelers have gotten worse. So while you keep pointing out past problems you are near sighted in what's happening this year. The Bengals have improved and the Steelers have gotton worse. Pretty simple really. Feel free to focus on current events.
 
What's even funnier is this:

1991 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1992 5 11 0 4th AFC Central --1993 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1994 3 13 0 3rd AFC Central --1995 7 9 0 2nd AFC Central --1996 8 8 0 3rd AFC Central --1997 7 9 0 4th AFC Central --1998 3 13 0 5th AFC Central --1999 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2000 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2001 6 10 0 6th AFC Central --2002 2 14 0 4th AFC North --2003 8 8 0 2nd AFC North --2004 8 8 0 3rd AFC North --2005 11 5 0 1st AFC North Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Steelers) 31-172006 8 8 0 2nd AFC North
Do people realize just how bad this franchise has been over the last 15+ years? :blackdot:
 
You're the one interested in listing what the Bengals did and asked what have they done about it. As they have improved since last year, the Steelers have gotten worse. So while you keep pointing out past problems you are near sighted in what's happening this year. The Bengals have improved and the Steelers have gotton worse. Pretty simple really. Feel free to focus on current events.
That's about what I expected.A complete dodge of the issue. Why? Because you don't like the way the facts stack up. Again, it's not about the Steelers. It's about the Bengals. Feel free to focus on reality.You're kind of focused on this turd watch schtick vs. the police reports. Sadly you don't even understand it. It is not the number of arrests a team has had. Please understand a number before you use it to support your argument.Every team has their thugs. Bengals just have far more than any other team currently.FO has chosen physical potential over character several consecutive years. Reap what you sow.I do recognize that there have been far fewer arrests in the last 7 months vs the prior 12. Maybe that does reflect improvement. If so good. I don't dislike the Bengals. In fact, I think they are a very talented, obviously play-off caliber team.The point being the Bengals have had a problem that no other NFL team has had to deal with to the same magnitude and that fact is not debatable. Trying to do so simply discredits the poster making that argument.
 
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You're the one interested in listing what the Bengals did and asked what have they done about it. As they have improved since last year, the Steelers have gotten worse. So while you keep pointing out past problems you are near sighted in what's happening this year. The Bengals have improved and the Steelers have gotton worse. Pretty simple really. Feel free to focus on current events.
That's about what I expected.A complete dodge of the issue. Why? Because you don't like the way the facts stack up. Again, it's not about the Steelers. It's about the Bengals. Feel free to focus on reality.You're kind of focused on this turd watch schtick vs. the police reports.Every team has their thugs. Bengals just have far more than any other team currently.FO has chosen physical potential over character several consecutive years. Reap what you sow.I do recognize that there have been far fewer arrests in the last 7 months vs the prior 12. Maybe that does reflect improvement. If so good. I don't dislike the Bengals. In fact, I think they are a very talented, obviously play-off caliber team.The point being the Bengals have had a problem that no other NFL team has had to deal with to the same magnitude and that fact is not debatable. Trying to do so simply discredits the poster making that argument.
I find it amazing that someone could say so much and not know what they are saying. Please feel free to read the things I've posted and then try to revise your comments to make more sense. This is just getting stupid now. :shrug:
 
What's even funnier is this:

1991 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1992 5 11 0 4th AFC Central --1993 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1994 3 13 0 3rd AFC Central --1995 7 9 0 2nd AFC Central --1996 8 8 0 3rd AFC Central --1997 7 9 0 4th AFC Central --1998 3 13 0 5th AFC Central --1999 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2000 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2001 6 10 0 6th AFC Central --2002 2 14 0 4th AFC North --2003 8 8 0 2nd AFC North --2004 8 8 0 3rd AFC North --2005 11 5 0 1st AFC North Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Steelers) 31-172006 8 8 0 2nd AFC North
Do people realize just how bad this franchise has been over the last 15+ years? :shrug:
So now we're back to records of teams since 1992 instead of idividuals the last few months? Well I guess if you don't feel things are going the way you want then just change the subject to something else. Rich.
 
I find it amazing that someone could say so much and not know what they are saying. Please feel free to read the things I've posted and then try to revise your comments to make more sense. This is just getting stupid now. :clap:
Your posts have been well read.Factual debate is obviously not what you are interested in.You are a blind homer with no perspective.Your last comment is your first intelligent one.
 
As they have improved since last year, the Steelers have gotten worse.
How many arrests have the Steelers had?
According to PFT's Turd watch:Steelers=24Bengals=22
The Steelers aren't perfect but they haven’t had anyone suspended by the league yet for conduct and that’s really the most important thing. The Bengal’s image just isn't good right now and no amount of debating is going to change that. Its not just Steeler fans who perceive the Bengal’s organization negatively, it’s the league and media and a lot of the general public. The only thing that can fix it is time, a few seasons of winning, and some better behavior from the players. The coach isn’t the problem; a group of players are the problem that probably won’t be playing much more.
 

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