Benson Is Terrible (1 Viewer)

[Keith Lewis]

Did I mention that BENSON BLOWS!!

I agree!! 13 carries for 50 yards is absolutely horrible!! he should've atleast managed 100 yards with those 13 carries.If only the Bears had a decent RB, they would no doubt be undefeated right now.

or :11:

 

[mdog1967]

Did I mention that BENSON BLOWS!!

I agree!! 13 carries for 50 yards is absolutely horrible!! he should've atleast managed 100 yards with those 13 carries.If only the Bears had a decent RB, they would no doubt be undefeated right now.

or :11:

And you know Keith it aint nothin personal against Benson, He just sucks as a RB.

 

[flapgreen]

At least he's sucking it up quietly.

 

[RBM]

At least he's sucking it up quietly.

You really needed to bump this with the other one going?

 

[flapgreen]

At least he's sucking it up quietly.

You really needed to bump this with the other one going?

Yeah. Figured I might as well. I can't believe this one has been going this long.

 

[RBM]

This should stir up the wolves...

Angelo backs his backGM knows Bears have problems, but he doesn't think Benson is one of themNovember 1, 2007BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.comGeneral manager Jerry Angelo wants to wait until the season ends to determine if quarterback will resume its position atop the Bears' list of priorities.But after watching his club stagger to a 3-5 first half, Angelo is satisfied with running back Cedric Benson.''Cedric is performing to the best of his abilities,'' Angelo said in an informal state-of-the-team address Wednesday. ''He's giving us top effort. That's all I could ask of any player.''That would seem to indicate Angelo thinks that the reasons for the moribund running game lie elsewhere -- or that Benson has peaked, an unlikely assessment by the man who spent the fourth pick in 2005 on the former Texas star. The Bears have slipped to 31st in the league in rushing, a failure by any estimation for a club that ... well, you know what they do when they get off the bus.''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,'' Angelo said. ''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner. Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts. That's also a product of falling behind, not necessarily the sign of a play-caller gone pass-happy.Benson is third in the league with 149 rushes and ranks 12th with 18.6 carries per game. The bottom line is he has had opportunities to improve his 3.1-yard-per-carry average and has been unsuccessful.Otherwise, Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line that accounts for 17.5 percent of the salary cap, with the five starters combining for nearly $19.1 million in cap room this season.But the running game is only part of the perplexing follow-up to a Super Bowl trip.''Nothing surprises me,'' Angelo said. ''Every year when we go into a year, I always say, 'Your team takes on its own identity.' You don't look at what you did last year, whether it was good or bad, and say, 'Well, we're going to pick up where we left off.' That's not the case. Each team has to establish its own identity. It's an intangible.''Did we expect this? It's certainly not where we thought we would be, but we're here. We're dealing with it, we still have hope, and that's what we're going to play on.''Angelo stressed the need for consistency. He said he's no more concerned about Brian Urlacher's arthritic back condition than any other player who has to play through pain. No negotiations have taken place with Lance Briggs, who couldn't sign a new deal during the season anyway. Angelo's focus is on improved play in the second half.You have to wonder if signs of a decline were apparent to the front office. There's no debating that, entering the season, former first-round picks Rex Grossman and Benson were the two biggest question marks. We've seen they're not the only ones to blame.''It's disappointing, but I'm not going to pin it that they can't play,'' Angelo said. ''You don't build a team around one player. We didn't last year, and we're not this year.''The day Angelo arrived in 2001, he began a quest for a franchise quarterback. It looked at times last season as though Grossman had answered the need. Now Angelo has eight games to get a handle on it, and assessing the most important position is the biggest decision he has to make.Can the veteran Griese level his play, or will he simply take Grossman's seat in the roller coaster? You get the feeling the next time Angelo talks, there will be a whole lot more quarterback inquiries.''I certainly can't look at anything from a personnel standpoint that we look back at and we would have done a little bit differently,'' he said. ''I'm not really one to do that as we're living in the present and certainly as we're moving forward.''

 

[ScoobyDoo]

This bum just got released in my league. I'd pick him up but I've already got those spots eaten up by Selvin Young and Travis Henry, and I know I'm supposed to have Hall somewhere in there.

 

[PatrickT]

''Cedric is performing to the best of his abilities,'' Angelo said in an informal state-of-the-team address Wednesday. ''He's giving us top effort. That's all I could ask of any player.''

Translation: That's the best he can do. We know, he blows.BTW, heard on Sirius, forget which hosts, who felt that Peterson would slowly start being phased in for more carries each week. FWIW, which is not much.

 

[TD5150]

This is the first time I've clicked on this thread...This cracks me up because I don't think I'll ever be able to see or hear the name Benson without thinking of the words Benson Blows because of always seeing this thread bumped on the front page. bump

I'm glad my topic has gotten this much play.....Simple, to the point and TRUE!I have been a Bears fan for 20+ years and over the last 15 or so no matter who is GM or coach they just can't seem to draft offense in the first round. Their RB picks have been the worst in the league! (WR and QBs could be too)SalaamEnis Bensonugggggh!

 

[flapgreen]

This should stir up the wolves...

Angelo backs his backGM knows Bears have problems, but he doesn't think Benson is one of themNovember 1, 2007BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.comGeneral manager Jerry Angelo wants to wait until the season ends to determine if quarterback will resume its position atop the Bears' list of priorities.But after watching his club stagger to a 3-5 first half, Angelo is satisfied with running back Cedric Benson.''Cedric is performing to the best of his abilities,'' Angelo said in an informal state-of-the-team address Wednesday. ''He's giving us top effort. That's all I could ask of any player.''That would seem to indicate Angelo thinks that the reasons for the moribund running game lie elsewhere -- or that Benson has peaked, an unlikely assessment by the man who spent the fourth pick in 2005 on the former Texas star. The Bears have slipped to 31st in the league in rushing, a failure by any estimation for a club that ... well, you know what they do when they get off the bus.''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,'' Angelo said. ''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner. Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts. That's also a product of falling behind, not necessarily the sign of a play-caller gone pass-happy.Benson is third in the league with 149 rushes and ranks 12th with 18.6 carries per game. The bottom line is he has had opportunities to improve his 3.1-yard-per-carry average and has been unsuccessful.Otherwise, Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line that accounts for 17.5 percent of the salary cap, with the five starters combining for nearly $19.1 million in cap room this season.But the running game is only part of the perplexing follow-up to a Super Bowl trip.''Nothing surprises me,'' Angelo said. ''Every year when we go into a year, I always say, 'Your team takes on its own identity.' You don't look at what you did last year, whether it was good or bad, and say, 'Well, we're going to pick up where we left off.' That's not the case. Each team has to establish its own identity. It's an intangible.''Did we expect this? It's certainly not where we thought we would be, but we're here. We're dealing with it, we still have hope, and that's what we're going to play on.''Angelo stressed the need for consistency. He said he's no more concerned about Brian Urlacher's arthritic back condition than any other player who has to play through pain. No negotiations have taken place with Lance Briggs, who couldn't sign a new deal during the season anyway. Angelo's focus is on improved play in the second half.You have to wonder if signs of a decline were apparent to the front office. There's no debating that, entering the season, former first-round picks Rex Grossman and Benson were the two biggest question marks. We've seen they're not the only ones to blame.''It's disappointing, but I'm not going to pin it that they can't play,'' Angelo said. ''You don't build a team around one player. We didn't last year, and we're not this year.''The day Angelo arrived in 2001, he began a quest for a franchise quarterback. It looked at times last season as though Grossman had answered the need. Now Angelo has eight games to get a handle on it, and assessing the most important position is the biggest decision he has to make.Can the veteran Griese level his play, or will he simply take Grossman's seat in the roller coaster? You get the feeling the next time Angelo talks, there will be a whole lot more quarterback inquiries.''I certainly can't look at anything from a personnel standpoint that we look back at and we would have done a little bit differently,'' he said. ''I'm not really one to do that as we're living in the present and certainly as we're moving forward.''

Sounds like a GM saying what he has to say, especially since he was a big reason Benson was drafted. Nonetheless, the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future. He's performing to the best of his abilities?=

 

[TwinTurbo]

''Cedric is performing to the best of his abilities,'' Angelo said in an informal state-of-the-team address Wednesday. ''He's giving us top effort. That's all I could ask of any player.''

Translation: Benson makes me wish we still had Anthony Thomas. Sure he was a big slow plodder like Cedric but at least he played with some heart.

 

[Ryan_21]

This should stir up the wolves...

Angelo backs his backGM knows Bears have problems, but he doesn't think Benson is one of themNovember 1, 2007BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.comGeneral manager Jerry Angelo wants to wait until the season ends to determine if quarterback will resume its position atop the Bears' list of priorities.But after watching his club stagger to a 3-5 first half, Angelo is satisfied with running back Cedric Benson.''Cedric is performing to the best of his abilities,'' Angelo said in an informal state-of-the-team address Wednesday. ''He's giving us top effort. That's all I could ask of any player.''That would seem to indicate Angelo thinks that the reasons for the moribund running game lie elsewhere -- or that Benson has peaked, an unlikely assessment by the man who spent the fourth pick in 2005 on the former Texas star. The Bears have slipped to 31st in the league in rushing, a failure by any estimation for a club that ... well, you know what they do when they get off the bus.''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,'' Angelo said. ''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner. Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts. That's also a product of falling behind, not necessarily the sign of a play-caller gone pass-happy.Benson is third in the league with 149 rushes and ranks 12th with 18.6 carries per game. The bottom line is he has had opportunities to improve his 3.1-yard-per-carry average and has been unsuccessful.Otherwise, Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line that accounts for 17.5 percent of the salary cap, with the five starters combining for nearly $19.1 million in cap room this season.But the running game is only part of the perplexing follow-up to a Super Bowl trip.''Nothing surprises me,'' Angelo said. ''Every year when we go into a year, I always say, 'Your team takes on its own identity.' You don't look at what you did last year, whether it was good or bad, and say, 'Well, we're going to pick up where we left off.' That's not the case. Each team has to establish its own identity. It's an intangible.''Did we expect this? It's certainly not where we thought we would be, but we're here. We're dealing with it, we still have hope, and that's what we're going to play on.''Angelo stressed the need for consistency. He said he's no more concerned about Brian Urlacher's arthritic back condition than any other player who has to play through pain. No negotiations have taken place with Lance Briggs, who couldn't sign a new deal during the season anyway. Angelo's focus is on improved play in the second half.You have to wonder if signs of a decline were apparent to the front office. There's no debating that, entering the season, former first-round picks Rex Grossman and Benson were the two biggest question marks. We've seen they're not the only ones to blame.''It's disappointing, but I'm not going to pin it that they can't play,'' Angelo said. ''You don't build a team around one player. We didn't last year, and we're not this year.''The day Angelo arrived in 2001, he began a quest for a franchise quarterback. It looked at times last season as though Grossman had answered the need. Now Angelo has eight games to get a handle on it, and assessing the most important position is the biggest decision he has to make.Can the veteran Griese level his play, or will he simply take Grossman's seat in the roller coaster? You get the feeling the next time Angelo talks, there will be a whole lot more quarterback inquiries.''I certainly can't look at anything from a personnel standpoint that we look back at and we would have done a little bit differently,'' he said. ''I'm not really one to do that as we're living in the present and certainly as we're moving forward.''

Sounds like a GM saying what he has to say, especially since he was a big reason Benson was drafted. Nonetheless, the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future. He's performing to the best of his abilities?=

"the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future" ???? Where does this article imply that Bensons future doesnt look encouraging?''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,'' ''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five startsThat's also a product of falling behindAngelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron TurnerAngelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive lineIs it safe to say you just dont know very much about football? Or is it that they just aren't very big on reading comprehension in grade school down there in St. Augustine?Its a team sport genius, if 10 other guys arent holding their own, then no one player is going to look good. Even Peyton Manning and Brett Favre sucked at one time and that time was when the rest of their team sucked too.

 

[PainTrain]

I was going to cut Benson. I've lost the faith to start him, and I'd rather take a shot in the dark off the waiver wire with a guy that has some potential. Ended up taking a deal for him (with my backup Derek Anderson) that included the Baltimore Ravens D (Which I'll start!) AND Jack Diddly Squat. I was offered Wynn, before he was out for the season, but countered saying Benson was a lemon, and I'd need a lemon or Jack Diddly Squat to match his production. The owner was the commish, and created a player named "Jack Diddly Squat" AND traded me Cleo Lemon, to sweeten the deal, along with Deangelo Williams, since I've got Foster. My starting roster improved its D tremendously for players on my bench, and I'm much happier to sit Diddly Squat than Benson, so we're all very happy about the deal. Diddly Squat is eligible on my IR since he's fictitious, whereas Benson was not. Sadly, a fictitious player benefits my lineup more than Benson, because he allows me room to grab a promising waiver wire gem. I've had some offers for Jack Diddly Squat from owners of other owners, for players that are sorely disappointing their owners. But dammit, I'm keeping him. I hate Benson.

 

[flapgreen]

This should stir up the wolves...

Angelo backs his back

GM knows Bears have problems, but he doesn't think Benson is one of them

November 1, 2007

BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.com

General manager Jerry Angelo wants to wait until the season ends to determine if quarterback will resume its position atop the Bears' list of priorities.

But after watching his club stagger to a 3-5 first half, Angelo is satisfied with running back Cedric Benson.

''Cedric is performing to the best of his abilities,'' Angelo said in an informal state-of-the-team address Wednesday. ''He's giving us top effort. That's all I could ask of any player.''

That would seem to indicate Angelo thinks that the reasons for the moribund running game lie elsewhere -- or that Benson has peaked, an unlikely assessment by the man who spent the fourth pick in 2005 on the former Texas star. The Bears have slipped to 31st in the league in rushing, a failure by any estimation for a club that ... well, you know what they do when they get off the bus.

''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,'' Angelo said. ''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.

''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''

Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner. Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts. That's also a product of falling behind, not necessarily the sign of a play-caller gone pass-happy.

Benson is third in the league with 149 rushes and ranks 12th with 18.6 carries per game. The bottom line is he has had opportunities to improve his 3.1-yard-per-carry average and has been unsuccessful.

Otherwise, Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line that accounts for 17.5 percent of the salary cap, with the five starters combining for nearly $19.1 million in cap room this season.

But the running game is only part of the perplexing follow-up to a Super Bowl trip.

''Nothing surprises me,'' Angelo said. ''Every year when we go into a year, I always say, 'Your team takes on its own identity.' You don't look at what you did last year, whether it was good or bad, and say, 'Well, we're going to pick up where we left off.' That's not the case. Each team has to establish its own identity. It's an intangible.

''Did we expect this? It's certainly not where we thought we would be, but we're here. We're dealing with it, we still have hope, and that's what we're going to play on.''

Angelo stressed the need for consistency. He said he's no more concerned about Brian Urlacher's arthritic back condition than any other player who has to play through pain. No negotiations have taken place with Lance Briggs, who couldn't sign a new deal during the season anyway. Angelo's focus is on improved play in the second half.

You have to wonder if signs of a decline were apparent to the front office. There's no debating that, entering the season, former first-round picks Rex Grossman and Benson were the two biggest question marks. We've seen they're not the only ones to blame.

''It's disappointing, but I'm not going to pin it that they can't play,'' Angelo said. ''You don't build a team around one player. We didn't last year, and we're not this year.''

The day Angelo arrived in 2001, he began a quest for a franchise quarterback. It looked at times last season as though Grossman had answered the need. Now Angelo has eight games to get a handle on it, and assessing the most important position is the biggest decision he has to make.

Can the veteran Griese level his play, or will he simply take Grossman's seat in the roller coaster? You get the feeling the next time Angelo talks, there will be a whole lot more quarterback inquiries.

''I certainly can't look at anything from a personnel standpoint that we look back at and we would have done a little bit differently,'' he said. ''I'm not really one to do that as we're living in the present and certainly as we're moving forward.''

Sounds like a GM saying what he has to say, especially since he was a big reason Benson was drafted. Nonetheless, the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future. He's performing to the best of his abilities?=

"the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future" ???? Where does this article imply that Bensons future doesnt look encouraging?''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''

''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,''

''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.

Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts

That's also a product of falling behind

Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner

Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line

Is it safe to say you just dont know very much about football? Or is it that they just aren't very big on reading comprehension in grade school down there in St. Augustine?

Its a team sport genius, if 10 other guys arent holding their own, then no one player is going to look good. Even Peyton Manning and Brett Favre sucked at one time and that time was when the rest of their team sucked too.

Here we go again. Yes sir. I'm stupid and don't know much about football. I'm sorry. BENSON WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!!!!!one11111Your reading comprehensions is what's down. If you would spend a little time going back to the beginning of this thread and see my prior statements instead of spouting off insults, you wouldn't see one spot where I said the team's problems were all Benson's fault, but then that would take too much time. There's a reason I can discuss these topics with guys I disagree with, like RMB, and still maintain a good discussion. Some people have credibility around the SP. You do not for this very reason.

And I love the Favre and Manning comparison. Very well done. Please continue.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Sounds like a GM saying what he has to say, especially since he was a big reason Benson was drafted. Nonetheless, the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future. He's performing to the best of his abilities?=

"the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future" ???? Where does this article imply that Bensons future doesnt look encouraging?''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''

''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,''

''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.

Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts

That's also a product of falling behind

Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner

Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line

Is it safe to say you just dont know very much about football? Or is it that they just aren't very big on reading comprehension in grade school down there in St. Augustine?

Its a team sport genius, if 10 other guys arent holding their own, then no one player is going to look good. Even Peyton Manning and Brett Favre sucked at one time and that time was when the rest of their team sucked too.

Here we go again. Yes sir. I'm stupid and don't know much about football. I'm sorry. BENSON WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!!!!!one11111Your reading comprehensions is what's down. If you would spend a little time going back to the beginning of this thread and see my prior statements instead of spouting off insults, you wouldn't see one spot where I said the team's problems were all Benson's fault, but then that would take too much time. There's a reason I can discuss these topics with guys I disagree with, like RMB, and still maintain a good discussion. Some people have credibility around the SP. You do not for this very reason.

And I love the Favre and Manning comparison. Very well done. Please continue.

I think what Ryan was trying to say - for some reason mixed with a silly personal insult - is that you appear to have selectively picked a quote from Angelo. Much of the article consisted of Angelo statements where he implicitly defended Ced Benson....basically blaming everyone else including the O-line and the O-coordinator. Of course, for those who have watched Benson this year, it's obvious that he's a lazy RB who appears to sleepwalk through half his carries, and a poor blocker with stone-like hands.

On the flip side, the O-line really has slipped this year. Few holes are opening up, and when they do, a penalty flag for holding seems to pop up far too frequently.

Lastly, Ron Turner is a HORRIBLE offensive coordinator. The play calling is so, so obvious.....reminds me of the old Lindy Infante days in Green Bay. The Bears are content to plow ahead for 3 yards on 1st and 2nd down.....and the only time they throw early, the QB - whether Griese or Grossman - simply lobs it up for grabs. Not impressive coaching.

Before everyone jumps in and accuses me of defending Benson, let me be clear: before the season started, I expected big things from Ced this year. But that fantasy ended sometime around week 3/4. If he doesn't turn it around in the 2nd half, the guy is done.

 

[RBM]

like RMB

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bears to Recommit to Benson Next Week --

Sat Nov 3, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

The Chicago Tribune reports after their week off, the 3-5 Bears are expected to recommit to RB Cedric Benson and the off-the-bus running game, and during the second half of the season they hope to know what they have in their hoped-for franchise running back. The plan is to stay with the overall game plan in the belief that big runs and the rushing game in general will come, one Bears insider said, provided QB Brian Griese eliminates his turnover problems. The Bears have no clear intention of replacing Benson with RB Adrian Peterson, though that could be an option. Peterson is a better pass protector and a better receiver, two of the three main jobs for running backs. Among running backs, only RB Ronnie Brown, RB Reggie Bush, RB Larry Johnson, RB LaDainian Tomlinson and RB Brian Westbrook have more receptions than Peterson's 24, and all have had far more playing time. But in a clearer indication that the Bears' rushing problems go beyond Benson, Peterson is averaging 4.5, a half-yard less than his combined average of 5.0 over the last two seasons. Coaches have provided an extended look at Peterson as a featured back already this season, though not for the purpose of looking to replace Benson. In the San Diego and Minnesota games, Benson was removed for extended periods when the score was close. The Bears lost both games.

 

[flapgreen]

Sounds like a GM saying what he has to say, especially since he was a big reason Benson was drafted. Nonetheless, the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future. He's performing to the best of his abilities?=

"the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future" ???? Where does this article imply that Bensons future doesnt look encouraging?''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''

''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,''

''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.

Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts

That's also a product of falling behind

Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner

Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line

Is it safe to say you just dont know very much about football? Or is it that they just aren't very big on reading comprehension in grade school down there in St. Augustine?

Its a team sport genius, if 10 other guys arent holding their own, then no one player is going to look good. Even Peyton Manning and Brett Favre sucked at one time and that time was when the rest of their team sucked too.

Here we go again. Yes sir. I'm stupid and don't know much about football. I'm sorry. BENSON WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!!!!!one11111Your reading comprehensions is what's down. If you would spend a little time going back to the beginning of this thread and see my prior statements instead of spouting off insults, you wouldn't see one spot where I said the team's problems were all Benson's fault, but then that would take too much time. There's a reason I can discuss these topics with guys I disagree with, like RMB, and still maintain a good discussion. Some people have credibility around the SP. You do not for this very reason.

And I love the Favre and Manning comparison. Very well done. Please continue.

I think what Ryan was trying to say - for some reason mixed with a silly personal insult - is that you appear to have selectively picked a quote from Angelo. Much of the article consisted of Angelo statements where he implicitly defended Ced Benson....basically blaming everyone else including the O-line and the O-coordinator. Of course, for those who have watched Benson this year, it's obvious that he's a lazy RB who appears to sleepwalk through half his carries, and a poor blocker with stone-like hands.

On the flip side, the O-line really has slipped this year. Few holes are opening up, and when they do, a penalty flag for holding seems to pop up far too frequently.

Lastly, Ron Turner is a HORRIBLE offensive coordinator. The play calling is so, so obvious.....reminds me of the old Lindy Infante days in Green Bay. The Bears are content to plow ahead for 3 yards on 1st and 2nd down.....and the only time they throw early, the QB - whether Griese or Grossman - simply lobs it up for grabs. Not impressive coaching.

Before everyone jumps in and accuses me of defending Benson, let me be clear: before the season started, I expected big things from Ced this year. But that fantasy ended sometime around week 3/4. If he doesn't turn it around in the 2nd half, the guy is done.

I agree with all of this. I've always maintained that it was a collective failure of the entire team to produce. Benson's only part of the problem, but he is part of the problem. The guy looks terrible, whether there's a hole there or not. For the life of me, I can't figure how some refuse to place any of the blame on Benson. It's always someone else's fault. We have the 2nd lowest rushing offense in the league and it has nothing to do with the running back? Yeah right!As far as my quote of Angelo, it didn't sound that encouraging to me. Then again, I'm merely interpreting it how I read it. I could be wrong.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Sounds like a GM saying what he has to say, especially since he was a big reason Benson was drafted. Nonetheless, the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future. He's performing to the best of his abilities?=

"the comments by Angelo don't appear to look that encouraging for Benson's future" ???? Where does this article imply that Bensons future doesnt look encouraging?''It's not one person, and I would hate to think you're going to single out one person and say, 'This is the reason why they can't run the ball.' There are a lot of things that are involved in that.''

''Part of it is because we haven't been able to score early and we've been playing from behind,''

''We're throwing the ball much more than I thought we'd be. Our game plan is not to throw it 40 times a game.

Brian Griese has thrown 40-plus passes in four of his five starts

That's also a product of falling behind

Angelo's concern with the run/pass ratio leads to the office of offensive coordinator Ron Turner

Angelo's concern with the running game has to fall on the veteran offensive line

Is it safe to say you just dont know very much about football? Or is it that they just aren't very big on reading comprehension in grade school down there in St. Augustine?

Its a team sport genius, if 10 other guys arent holding their own, then no one player is going to look good. Even Peyton Manning and Brett Favre sucked at one time and that time was when the rest of their team sucked too.

Here we go again. Yes sir. I'm stupid and don't know much about football. I'm sorry. BENSON WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!!!!!one11111Your reading comprehensions is what's down. If you would spend a little time going back to the beginning of this thread and see my prior statements instead of spouting off insults, you wouldn't see one spot where I said the team's problems were all Benson's fault, but then that would take too much time. There's a reason I can discuss these topics with guys I disagree with, like RMB, and still maintain a good discussion. Some people have credibility around the SP. You do not for this very reason.

And I love the Favre and Manning comparison. Very well done. Please continue.

I think what Ryan was trying to say - for some reason mixed with a silly personal insult - is that you appear to have selectively picked a quote from Angelo. Much of the article consisted of Angelo statements where he implicitly defended Ced Benson....basically blaming everyone else including the O-line and the O-coordinator. Of course, for those who have watched Benson this year, it's obvious that he's a lazy RB who appears to sleepwalk through half his carries, and a poor blocker with stone-like hands.

On the flip side, the O-line really has slipped this year. Few holes are opening up, and when they do, a penalty flag for holding seems to pop up far too frequently.

Lastly, Ron Turner is a HORRIBLE offensive coordinator. The play calling is so, so obvious.....reminds me of the old Lindy Infante days in Green Bay. The Bears are content to plow ahead for 3 yards on 1st and 2nd down.....and the only time they throw early, the QB - whether Griese or Grossman - simply lobs it up for grabs. Not impressive coaching.

Before everyone jumps in and accuses me of defending Benson, let me be clear: before the season started, I expected big things from Ced this year. But that fantasy ended sometime around week 3/4. If he doesn't turn it around in the 2nd half, the guy is done.

I agree with all of this. I've always maintained that it was a collective failure of the entire team to produce. Benson's only part of the problem, but he is part of the problem. The guy looks terrible, whether there's a hole there or not. For the life of me, I can't figure how some refuse to place any of the blame on Benson. It's always someone else's fault. We have the 2nd lowest rushing offense in the league and it has nothing to do with the running back? Yeah right!As far as my quote of Angelo, it didn't sound that encouraging to me. Then again, I'm merely interpreting it how I read it. I could be wrong.

Totally with you man.

 

[Raider Nation]

like RMB

That was a compliment to you, RBM. We disagree on some things but still manage to have civil discussions, while having respect for what the other is saying.

You spelled his username incorrectly.

 

[flapgreen]

like RMB

That was a compliment to you, RBM. We disagree on some things but still manage to have civil discussions, while having respect for what the other is saying.

You spelled his username incorrectly.

 

[RBM]

like RMB

That was a compliment to you, RBM. We disagree on some things but still manage to have civil discussions, while having respect for what the other is saying.

You spelled his username incorrectly.

 

[Ryan_21]

Flapgreen, Im sorry about the personal stuff bro. I know its no excuse to go there, I just get so frustrated with all the Benson hate. Because in reality the RB position is the one offensive position that is affected the most by the other 10 guys on the field. Why do you think RBs always thank their O-line after big games. Everybody always says Emmitt Smith was a product of his line. Well yeah, they were great. How can Ricky Williams average 3.5 YPC some years and 4.8 in another? How can LJ average 3.6 this year, but 5.2 in another year? Is it that they 'SUCK' in those down years, or is it a product of everyone around them? Every RB needs a line to run behind unless they are just super elite like Barry Sanders. They also need a cordinator that doesnt shy away from the run in close games. If Benson was on the Colts would we even be having this discussion? So no I dont think he is part of the problem, I think it is a lot deeper than most people are willing to look. Once again tho I appoligize. However, I can say this tho. Im from Florida too, and our educational system is they suck

 

[flapgreen]

Flapgreen, Im sorry about the personal stuff bro. I know its no excuse to go there, I just get so frustrated with all the Benson hate. Because in reality the RB position is the one offensive position that is affected the most by the other 10 guys on the field. Why do you think RBs always thank their O-line after big games. Everybody always says Emmitt Smith was a product of his line. Well yeah, they were great. How can Ricky Williams average 3.5 YPC some years and 4.8 in another? How can LJ average 3.6 this year, but 5.2 in another year? Is it that they 'SUCK' in those down years, or is it a product of everyone around them? Every RB needs a line to run behind unless they are just super elite like Barry Sanders. They also need a cordinator that doesnt shy away from the run in close games. If Benson was on the Colts would we even be having this discussion? So no I dont think he is part of the problem, I think it is a lot deeper than most people are willing to look. Once again tho I appoligize. However, I can say this tho. Im from Florida too, and our educational system is they suck

As I said, I don't think it's all Benson's fault, but he has to share some of the blame. He looks like he's running with his eyes closed out there half the time IMO. Whether he'd been the full time starter before this season or not, I just think we should've seen more from him by now. He was the 4th pick in the draft. As a Bears fan, I truly hope he proves me wrong and sets the league on fire, but I haven't seen anything yet to indicate he was worth the 4th pick in the draft. It's frustrating how poor the Bears are at drafting offensive talent.

 

[Ryan_21]

Flapgreen, Im sorry about the personal stuff bro. I know its no excuse to go there, I just get so frustrated with all the Benson hate. Because in reality the RB position is the one offensive position that is affected the most by the other 10 guys on the field. Why do you think RBs always thank their O-line after big games. Everybody always says Emmitt Smith was a product of his line. Well yeah, they were great. How can Ricky Williams average 3.5 YPC some years and 4.8 in another? How can LJ average 3.6 this year, but 5.2 in another year? Is it that they 'SUCK' in those down years, or is it a product of everyone around them? Every RB needs a line to run behind unless they are just super elite like Barry Sanders. They also need a cordinator that doesnt shy away from the run in close games. If Benson was on the Colts would we even be having this discussion? So no I dont think he is part of the problem, I think it is a lot deeper than most people are willing to look. Once again tho I appoligize. However, I can say this tho. Im from Florida too, and our educational system is they suck

As I said, I don't think it's all Benson's fault, but he has to share some of the blame. He looks like he's running with his eyes closed out there half the time IMO. Whether he'd been the full time starter before this season or not, I just think we should've seen more from him by now. He was the 4th pick in the draft. As a Bears fan, I truly hope he proves me wrong and sets the league on fire, but I haven't seen anything yet to indicate he was worth the 4th pick in the draft. It's frustrating how poor the Bears are at drafting offensive talent.

I agree he needs to take some of the blame, I just hate it when I see ALL of the blame put on him. I mean you cant bake a cake without flower, sugar, milk, and eggs. And you cant run the ball with a crappy o-line, 8 defenders in the box, a defense getting blasted resulting in falling behind early most of the time, and a coordinator that goes away from the run even in close games. And there is really no need to even mention how bad the QB play has been. I mean the Vikings have crappy QBs too, but they are smart enough to know not to chunk it in the air 45 times a game.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Flapgreen, Im sorry about the personal stuff bro. I know its no excuse to go there, I just get so frustrated with all the Benson hate. Because in reality the RB position is the one offensive position that is affected the most by the other 10 guys on the field. Why do you think RBs always thank their O-line after big games. Everybody always says Emmitt Smith was a product of his line. Well yeah, they were great. How can Ricky Williams average 3.5 YPC some years and 4.8 in another? How can LJ average 3.6 this year, but 5.2 in another year? Is it that they 'SUCK' in those down years, or is it a product of everyone around them? Every RB needs a line to run behind unless they are just super elite like Barry Sanders. They also need a cordinator that doesnt shy away from the run in close games. If Benson was on the Colts would we even be having this discussion? So no I dont think he is part of the problem, I think it is a lot deeper than most people are willing to look. Once again tho I appoligize. However, I can say this tho. Im from Florida too, and our educational system is they suck

As I said, I don't think it's all Benson's fault, but he has to share some of the blame. He looks like he's running with his eyes closed out there half the time IMO. Whether he'd been the full time starter before this season or not, I just think we should've seen more from him by now. He was the 4th pick in the draft.

As a Bears fan, I truly hope he proves me wrong and sets the league on fire, but I haven't seen anything yet to indicate he was worth the 4th pick in the draft. It's frustrating how poor the Bears are at drafting offensive talent.

I agree he needs to take some of the blame, I just hate it when I see ALL of the blame put on him. I mean you cant bake a cake without flower, sugar, milk, and eggs. And you cant run the ball with a crappy o-line, 8 defenders in the box, a defense getting blasted resulting in falling behind early most of the time, and a coordinator that goes away from the run even in close games. And there is really no need to even mention how bad the QB play has been. I mean the Vikings have crappy QBs too, but they are smart enough to know not to chunk it in the air 45 times a game.

Exactly. Last year Benson averaged 4.1 yds per carry...this year he's at what, 3.1 yds per carry? I'm sure Benson has slipped a full yd per carry in talent since 2006. He really does look horrible much of the time though. Dude could at least TRY to break a tackle every now and then.

 

[RBM]

He really does look horrible much of the time though. Dude could at least TRY to break a tackle every now and then.

I just done get this. He has been breaking tackles this year. I think thats one of the only things you cant fault him for.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

He really does look horrible much of the time though. Dude could at least TRY to break a tackle every now and then.

I just done get this. He has been breaking tackles this year. I think thats one of the only things you cant fault him for.

To be fair, I've only seen about half his games. When I watch him, he alternates between giving solid effort and sleepwalking. When he's sleepwalking, he's completely incapable of breaking tackles. Sorry, but I've seen carry after carry where he just falls down. I'd LOVE to see him break tackles....and score TDs....and rush for 100 yds. He's on my team, and frankly, he's been killing my chances.If others have seen him do a great job of breaking tackles, they certainly haven't been posting in this thread very much.

 

[Keith Lewis]

He really does look horrible much of the time though. Dude could at least TRY to break a tackle every now and then.

I just done get this. He has been breaking tackles this year. I think thats one of the only things you cant fault him for.

To be fair, I've only seen about half his games. When I watch him, he alternates between giving solid effort and sleepwalking. When he's sleepwalking, he's completely incapable of breaking tackles. Sorry, but I've seen carry after carry where he just falls down. I'd LOVE to see him break tackles....and score TDs....and rush for 100 yds. He's on my team, and frankly, he's been killing my chances.If others have seen him do a great job of breaking tackles, they certainly haven't been posting in this thread very much.

Watching other backs like MBIII and Lynch you'll notice that the feet keep moving when someone grabs their upper body. Many times this season I see someone grab Cedric around his jersey and his feet completely stop moving, he goes limp, and falls forward. Whoever said he was "lazy" earlier is onto something.

 

[Ryan_21]

I just found some interesting stats. Isnt Walter Payton the greatest RB ever?

His first year as a starter he averaged 3.5 YPC and averaged 15.1 carries a game, and only 7 TDs. How is it possible for the greatest RB EVER to put up such crappy #s, was he the suck? Or did his team around him suck? Obviously being born in 1980 I didnt get to see him play this year.

And his 7th year in the league when he was in his prime and 28 years old Payton averaged 3.6 YPC and averaged 21.2 carries a game, and only had 6 TDs.

How is it possible the Greatest EVER could have such bad years? I dont think anyone here will argue that he wasnt good, but why were his #s ####ty in those years?

Now Im not comparing Benson with Payton by any means, just showing that because someones #s are not good in a single year that maybe they are not the suck after all, maybe it is a product of being only ONE man in a 11 man team sport, because I dont think anybody is going to say Payton was horrible but he did have horrible years.

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

 

[gianmarco]

I just found some interesting stats. Isnt Walter Payton the greatest RB ever?His first year as a starter he averaged 3.5 YPC and averaged 15.1 carries a game, and only 7 TDs. How is it possible for the greatest RB EVER to put up such crappy #s, was he the suck? Or did his team around him suck? Obviously being born in 1980 I didnt get to see him play this year.And his 7th year in the league when he was in his prime and 28 years old Payton averaged 3.6 YPC and averaged 21.2 carries a game, and only had 6 TDs. How is it possible the Greatest EVER could have such bad years? I dont think anyone here will argue that he wasnt good, but why were his #s ####ty in those years? Now Im not comparing Benson with Payton by any means, just showing that because someones #s are not good in a single year that maybe they are not the suck after all, maybe it is a product of being only ONE man in a 11 man team sport, because I dont think anybody is going to say Payton was horrible but he did have horrible years.Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

Ugh, enough already. Put the #'s down for just a moment and watch a game already. He just looks horrible running the football this year. As has been mentioned MANY, MANY, MANY time, he runs with ZERO heart and drive, can't seem to break a tackle, and goes down on first contact. This isn't something that all of these different people watching him are making up. The #'s don't tell me or anyone else that he's doing badly, they just confirm it after watching his pathetic effort on the football field. Yes, I know, I know, his team sucks, his schedule sucks, his QB sucks, his coordinator sucks, his O-line sucks.....i got it.Guess what. He sucks too.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

I have nothing but respect for Payton, I'd put him at #1 for my all time list, where did that come from Short Bus Driver?

 

[Ryan_21]

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

I have nothing but respect for Payton, I'd put him at #1 for my all time list, where did that come from Short Bus Driver?

#1 on your all time list? Then how do you explain the years in which he averaged 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7 YPC? Or how about the years his rushing TD totals were only 1,4,6,6,6,and 7?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

I have nothing but respect for Payton, I'd put him at #1 for my all time list, where did that come from Short Bus Driver?

#1 on your all time list? Then how do you explain the years in which he averaged 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7 YPC? Or how about the years his rushing TD totals were only 1,4,6,6,6,and 7?

 

[Mene]

I think the thing I hate about the Benson hate is that most of the posters are just regurgitating what someone else said, and haven't watched him much if at all this year. So much of it is just paraphrasing of a post 8 posts back.

I have watched 4 Chicago games this year... and the biggest flaw I've seen in Benson is consistancy. He breaks tackles just fine, just not every run. Some runs he shows burst, vision, cutback ability, and power. Others, he crumbles at first touch. I don't know what his deal is, why the extremes in his running style... but it sucks from a fantasy perspective. Add to all of this the fact that he cannot catch, at all, I mean absolutely terrible hands... he's just a headache. He may one day be a really good back... I think he has a bit of talent, but I doubt it. He just doesn't seem into it every series, every play.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I think the thing I hate about the Benson hate is that most of the posters are just regurgitating what someone else said, and haven't watched him much if at all this year. So much of it is just paraphrasing of a post 8 posts back.I have watched 4 Chicago games this year... and the biggest flaw I've seen in Benson is consistancy. He breaks tackles just fine, just not every run. Some runs he shows burst, vision, cutback ability, and power. Others, he crumbles at first touch. I don't know what his deal is, why the extremes in his running style... but it sucks from a fantasy perspective. Add to all of this the fact that he cannot catch, at all, I mean absolutely terrible hands... he's just a headache. He may one day be a really good back... I think he has a bit of talent, but I doubt it. He just doesn't seem into it every series, every play.

I understand what you're saying. People who say that he lacks talent aren't watching the games. He flashes talent a few plays every game - unfortunately, he cannot keep this up for 4 quarters. Too frequently, he's got his head down after a 1 yd run where he gets bumped and falls to the turf. And let's face it, if a RB can't play hard for 4 quarters, then his core abiilty isn't terribly useful.At some point, even hardcore Benson supporters will just have to accept that this guy is mediocre.

 

[gianmarco]

I think the thing I hate about the Benson hate is that most of the posters are just regurgitating what someone else said, and haven't watched him much if at all this year. So much of it is just paraphrasing of a post 8 posts back.

I have watched 4 Chicago games this year... and the biggest flaw I've seen in Benson is consistancy. He breaks tackles just fine, just not every run. Some runs he shows burst, vision, cutback ability, and power. Others, he crumbles at first touch. I don't know what his deal is, why the extremes in his running style... but it sucks from a fantasy perspective. Add to all of this the fact that he cannot catch, at all, I mean absolutely terrible hands... he's just a headache. He may one day be a really good back... I think he has a bit of talent, but I doubt it. He just doesn't seem into it every series, every play.

So you've been tracking the viewing habits of all these posters? You know they haven't watched him? What are all these people gaining by coming here and making stuff up or repeating something they read? Or is it possible that the same stuff keeps being said because it's what they've seen and what is true? I didn't realize you were the authority on how he's done so everyone else isn't right and is just repeating garbage.Yes, he's had a couple of runs where he's broken tackles and made a move or two. But that is by far the minority of his runs. You yourself admitted he crumbles at first touch sometimes and how he has looked bad. You make it sound like the stuff being repeated has no merits to it.

And yes, I've watched him play quite a bit, even before this year. He wasn't anything special 2 yrs ago, last year, or this year. And no, I don't own him in my league and never have (and there's a reason for that).

 

[ATRAIN56]

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

I have nothing but respect for Payton, I'd put him at #1 for my all time list, where did that come from Short Bus Driver?

#1 on your all time list? Then how do you explain the years in which he averaged 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7 YPC? Or how about the years his rushing TD totals were only 1,4,6,6,6,and 7?

 

[Keith Lewis]

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

I have nothing but respect for Payton, I'd put him at #1 for my all time list, where did that come from Short Bus Driver?

#1 on your all time list? Then how do you explain the years in which he averaged 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7 YPC? Or how about the years his rushing TD totals were only 1,4,6,6,6,and 7?

I don't care what a football novice says who bet me money that Reggie Brown would have more fantasy points this season than Reggie Wayne, your opinion on football means nothing to me, and aren't you the guy who told me you wished CJ ends up in a wheelchair? Uh huh, Go away Atrain. Good luck trading away Benson in our league. Finally Benson didn't embarrass himself in week 9, things looking up for Ced.

 

[ATRAIN56]

Or maybe as Keith Lewis would suggest, maybe Walter Payton was just LAZY in those years?

I have nothing but respect for Payton, I'd put him at #1 for my all time list, where did that come from Short Bus Driver?

#1 on your all time list? Then how do you explain the years in which he averaged 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7 YPC? Or how about the years his rushing TD totals were only 1,4,6,6,6,and 7?

I don't care what a football novice says who bet me money that Reggie Brown would have more fantasy points this season than Reggie Wayne, your opinion on football means nothing to me, and aren't you the guy who told me you wished CJ ends up in a wheelchair? Uh huh, Go away Atrain. Good luck trading away Benson in our league. Finally Benson didn't embarrass himself in week 9, things looking up for Ced.

Dude we have went back and forth for 2 years now. But for you to LIE about me wishing CJ was in a wheelchair passes the line. I own CJ in my BIG $$$$ league. I am probably more concerned and hopes he gets back ASAP then you, after all zealots is a free league. Yes I mad that AWEFUL bet and between Brown and Wayne.

 

[Keith Lewis]

When discussing the Bears' bye week activities, coach Lovie Smith subtly hinted that the coaching staff had decided to make "subtle changes" in personnel.

David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune suggests that those changes could start with Adrian Peterson taking carries from Cedric Benson. If a change is coming, it will probably be evident this week. Still, the Bears face Oakland's terrible run defense this week, making Benson a solid start.Source: Chicago Tribune

 

[King of the Wolfies]

At what point will everyone have to concede that Benson sucks. he's got a favorable matchup this week, so i think its now or never for him. If he cant get 100 yds and a td, stick a fork in him.

Put i play against him this weekend so look for 160yds and 2 tds.

 

[Keith Lewis]

At what point will everyone have to concede that Benson sucks. he's got a favorable matchup this week, so i think its now or never for him. If he cant get 100 yds and a td, stick a fork in him.Put i play against him this weekend so look for 160yds and 2 tds.

Bensons suckage meter is so high it doesn't even matter if he's playing against you this week, the guy is trash. You got nothing to worry about, he is not an NFL caliber running back and since he plays against NFL teams you'll be ok.

 

[flapgreen]

At what point will everyone have to concede that Benson sucks. he's got a favorable matchup this week, so i think its now or never for him. If he cant get 100 yds and a td, stick a fork in him.Put i play against him this weekend so look for 160yds and 2 tds.

It's not his fault.

 

[OddibeMcD]

All aboard the Benson Bandwagon ===> :11:

I am ready to ride the short bus, but he's going into my lineup this week. Benson v. Raiders is going to beat out Jamal Lewis v. Steelers. If there was any week he could show up, it should be this one. However, I would settle for 50 and a touch.

 

[mdog1967]

When discussing the Bears' bye week activities, coach Lovie Smith subtly hinted that the coaching staff had decided to make "subtle changes" in personnel.

David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune suggests that those changes could start with Adrian Peterson taking carries from Cedric Benson. If a change is coming, it will probably be evident this week. Still, the Bears face Oakland's terrible run defense this week, making Benson a solid start.Source: Chicago Tribune

I can only dream Keith, only dream....

 

[TD5150]

I have been a Benson hater since week 2, but I feel this week is make or break game for the 2005 4th overall pick. Benson has a few things going for him, he is coming off a bye so the Bears have had two weeks to scheme for the Raiders D. Lovie Smith has stated he is going to re-commit to the running game in the second half of the season and the original Adrian Peterson is breathing down Benson neck…….and Cedric feels the heat. I feel Benson is going to get the ball at least 25 times and if he doesn’t put up one of the best games of his career he is probably history as a starter and maybe even as a Bear. If you have Benson on your bench give him one more chance, if he flops cut him outright!

 

[North]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.

So far 6 carries for 15 yds.

"It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds"

"If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"

Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

 

[OddibeMcD]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.So far 6 carries for 15 yds."It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds""If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

He is up to 11 for 28, that's better than a 2.5 average and he is just starting to get warmed up. He will break one for at least 5 or 6 yards before the game is over just to prove a point to you haters. This is a stout Raider D and he running like he does every week; with heart and courage.

 

[North]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.So far 6 carries for 15 yds."It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds""If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

He is up to 11 for 28, that's better than a 2.5 average and he is just starting to get warmed up. He will break one for at least 5 or 6 yards before the game is over just to prove a point to you haters. This is a stout Raider D and he running like he does every week; with heart and courage.

Is this supposed to be a joke??2.5ypc is nothing to brag about, that's not even close to successful in todays NFL.And breaking a run for 5 or 6 yds is something that should be expected out of a starting RB in this league. Good RB's have expectations of breaking big ones for 20+yds. If Bensons expectations are to break a 5 or 6 yarder, he's worse than I thought!Stout Run D?? I would have picked another adjective to describe Oaklands run D.week 1 Tatum Bell 90 yds, 1td TATUM "freakin" BELLweek 2 Henry 128ydsweek 3 Lewis 56 yds (way to go, you can stop an over the hill RB)week 4 Brown 134 1 tdweek 5 BYEweek 6 LT 198 4tdsweek 7 LJ 112yds 1tdweek 8 White 133yds week 9 Dayne 122yds 1tdThats 122 ypg rushing and 1 tpg. And also consider that this is just the # from the leading back, if you calculate all rushing yards the average goes up even further.Fact is their Run D stinks and if Benson can't do what other RB's have done then it just proves that he is below average. No excuses!!!!!!!