Benson Is Terrible (1 Viewer)

[OddibeMcD]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.So far 6 carries for 15 yds."It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds""If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

He is up to 11 for 28, that's better than a 2.5 average and he is just starting to get warmed up. He will break one for at least 5 or 6 yards before the game is over just to prove a point to you haters. This is a stout Raider D and he running like he does every week; with heart and courage.

Is this supposed to be a joke??2.5ypc is nothing to brag about, that's not even close to successful in todays NFL.And breaking a run for 5 or 6 yds is something that should be expected out of a starting RB in this league. Good RB's have expectations of breaking big ones for 20+yds. If Bensons expectations are to break a 5 or 6 yarder, he's worse than I thought!Stout Run D?? I would have picked another adjective to describe Oaklands run D.week 1 Tatum Bell 90 yds, 1td TATUM "freakin" BELLweek 2 Henry 128ydsweek 3 Lewis 56 yds (way to go, you can stop an over the hill RB)week 4 Brown 134 1 tdweek 5 BYEweek 6 LT 198 4tdsweek 7 LJ 112yds 1tdweek 8 White 133yds week 9 Dayne 122yds 1tdThats 122 ypg rushing and 1 tpg. And also consider that this is just the # from the leading back, if you calculate all rushing yards the average goes up even further.Fact is their Run D stinks and if Benson can't do what other RB's have done then it just proves that he is below average. No excuses!!!!!!!

It is Wolfe and his -4 YPC that is dragging this team down, not Benson. Cedric averages positive yardage. Also, he is not on pace to get the 25 carries he would need to break 100 yards. He is only on pace to have 24 carries. This will have no impact on his statement last week. Give the kid 25 carries, then he will break 100. He said nothing about 24 carries.

 

[North]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.So far 6 carries for 15 yds."It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds""If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

He is up to 11 for 28, that's better than a 2.5 average and he is just starting to get warmed up. He will break one for at least 5 or 6 yards before the game is over just to prove a point to you haters. This is a stout Raider D and he running like he does every week; with heart and courage.

Is this supposed to be a joke??2.5ypc is nothing to brag about, that's not even close to successful in todays NFL.And breaking a run for 5 or 6 yds is something that should be expected out of a starting RB in this league. Good RB's have expectations of breaking big ones for 20+yds. If Bensons expectations are to break a 5 or 6 yarder, he's worse than I thought!Stout Run D?? I would have picked another adjective to describe Oaklands run D.week 1 Tatum Bell 90 yds, 1td TATUM "freakin" BELLweek 2 Henry 128ydsweek 3 Lewis 56 yds (way to go, you can stop an over the hill RB)week 4 Brown 134 1 tdweek 5 BYEweek 6 LT 198 4tdsweek 7 LJ 112yds 1tdweek 8 White 133yds week 9 Dayne 122yds 1tdThats 122 ypg rushing and 1 tpg. And also consider that this is just the # from the leading back, if you calculate all rushing yards the average goes up even further.Fact is their Run D stinks and if Benson can't do what other RB's have done then it just proves that he is below average. No excuses!!!!!!!

It is Wolfe and his -4 YPC that is dragging this team down, not Benson. Cedric averages positive yardage. Also, he is not on pace to get the 25 carries he would need to break 100 yards. He is only on pace to have 24 carries. This will have no impact on his statement last week. Give the kid 25 carries, then he will break 100. He said nothing about 24 carries.

I get it now, this is supposed to be "dry" humor. Pretty funny, I thought you were serious after that 1st post

 

[OddibeMcD]

I get it now, this is supposed to be "dry" humor. Pretty funny, I thought you were serious after that 1st post

I wish I had listened to all of you in the beginning.

 

[mr. furley]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.So far 6 carries for 15 yds."It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds""If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

He is up to 11 for 28, that's better than a 2.5 average and he is just starting to get warmed up. He will break one for at least 5 or 6 yards before the game is over just to prove a point to you haters. This is a stout Raider D and he running like he does every week; with heart and courage.

Is this supposed to be a joke??2.5ypc is nothing to brag about, that's not even close to successful in todays NFL.And breaking a run for 5 or 6 yds is something that should be expected out of a starting RB in this league. Good RB's have expectations of breaking big ones for 20+yds. If Bensons expectations are to break a 5 or 6 yarder, he's worse than I thought!Stout Run D?? I would have picked another adjective to describe Oaklands run D.week 1 Tatum Bell 90 yds, 1td TATUM "freakin" BELLweek 2 Henry 128ydsweek 3 Lewis 56 yds (way to go, you can stop an over the hill RB)week 4 Brown 134 1 tdweek 5 BYEweek 6 LT 198 4tdsweek 7 LJ 112yds 1tdweek 8 White 133yds week 9 Dayne 122yds 1tdThats 122 ypg rushing and 1 tpg. And also consider that this is just the # from the leading back, if you calculate all rushing yards the average goes up even further.Fact is their Run D stinks and if Benson can't do what other RB's have done then it just proves that he is below average. No excuses!!!!!!!

you can't be serious can you?

 

[North]

If he can't do it against the Raiders, he's just not going to do it and Chicago should cut their loses and see if they have anything in Wolffe or Peterson.So far 6 carries for 15 yds."It's not like I'm getting 20 carries and only getting 60 yds""If they give me the ball 20 times I'll get 80-100"Face it Benson, your better days are behind you. Your college days!

He is up to 11 for 28, that's better than a 2.5 average and he is just starting to get warmed up. He will break one for at least 5 or 6 yards before the game is over just to prove a point to you haters. This is a stout Raider D and he running like he does every week; with heart and courage.

Is this supposed to be a joke??2.5ypc is nothing to brag about, that's not even close to successful in todays NFL.And breaking a run for 5 or 6 yds is something that should be expected out of a starting RB in this league. Good RB's have expectations of breaking big ones for 20+yds. If Bensons expectations are to break a 5 or 6 yarder, he's worse than I thought!Stout Run D?? I would have picked another adjective to describe Oaklands run D.week 1 Tatum Bell 90 yds, 1td TATUM "freakin" BELLweek 2 Henry 128ydsweek 3 Lewis 56 yds (way to go, you can stop an over the hill RB)week 4 Brown 134 1 tdweek 5 BYEweek 6 LT 198 4tdsweek 7 LJ 112yds 1tdweek 8 White 133yds week 9 Dayne 122yds 1tdThats 122 ypg rushing and 1 tpg. And also consider that this is just the # from the leading back, if you calculate all rushing yards the average goes up even further.Fact is their Run D stinks and if Benson can't do what other RB's have done then it just proves that he is below average. No excuses!!!!!!!

you can't be serious can you?

Serious about what? When a defense allows Dayne, White and Tatum Bell to average 115yds a game and a TD and Benson is STILL averaging less than 3ypc it just proves he is below average! It's not just opinion, the proof is in the #'s. What I don't understand is why people continue to make excuses for his poor play. just because you drafted him on your fantasy team doesn't mean jack! It doesn't make him any better of a player. This whole agrument is fueled by people wearing "rose colored" glasses who refuse to admit when they made a mistake. Kind of like the Bears and how they refuse to pull the plug on this guy!Do you think he is a better option then Dayne or Bell? If so then why can't he put up the #'s they can?? Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

 

[OddibeMcD]

Serious about what? When a defense allows Dayne, White and Tatum Bell to average 115yds a game and a TD and Benson is STILL averaging less than 3ypc it just proves he is below average!Do you think he is a better option then Dayne or Bell? If so then why can't he put up the #'s they can?? Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

I think he is saying you can't be serious to take me serious.

 

[North]

Serious about what? When a defense allows Dayne, White and Tatum Bell to average 115yds a game and a TD and Benson is STILL averaging less than 3ypc it just proves he is below average!Do you think he is a better option then Dayne or Bell? If so then why can't he put up the #'s they can?? Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

I think he is saying you can't be serious to take me serious.

I hope so!

 

[mr. furley]

Serious about what? When a defense allows Dayne, White and Tatum Bell to average 115yds a game and a TD and Benson is STILL averaging less than 3ypc it just proves he is below average!Do you think he is a better option then Dayne or Bell? If so then why can't he put up the #'s they can?? Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

I think he is saying you can't be serious to take me serious.

 

[gianmarco]

See. Benson was right. He said he needs 20 carries to get going and he finally did. All hail his 53 yds against the vaunted Oakland run defense.

Man, this guy is horrible. Let me guess, though, it's Griese's fault? His schedule? Oh wait, it's his O-line.

 

[mdog1967]

See. Benson was right. He said he needs 20 carries to get going and he finally did. All hail his 53 yds against the vaunted Oakland run defense.Man, this guy is horrible. Let me guess, though, it's Griese's fault? His schedule? Oh wait, it's his O-line.

Your kidding there are people who will argue untill Benson is gone that he is a stud, they will blame it on the line, on the coach, they will make up stupid stuff like "See how Benson fumbled the snap, how he could not hold the opposing team to more than a TD. Its over, lock the thread, he stinks. ANY ONE WHO STILL BELEIVES THIS GUY IS A GOOD RUNNING BACK IS OUT OF THEIR MIND. Benson is a BUST

 

[BusterTBronco]

Benson BLOWS!

Get him outta there!

 

[Keith Lewis]

Benson looks Craptastic, watched every play.

 

[mr. furley]

i'm not saying one way or the other that the guy stinks....... just wondering where everyone who said he was the man in Chicago and that Thomas Jones was a joke for the past 2 seasons is hiding out?

 

[mdog1967]

i'm not saying one way or the other that the guy stinks....... just wondering where everyone who said he was the man in Chicago and that Thomas Jones was a joke for the past 2 seasons is hiding out?

They are hiding under Rocks....

 

[Limp Ditka]

And here comes the Benson supporters

 

[eom]

lucky for benson owners chicago was running up the score at the end.

 

[mdog1967]

And here comes the Benson supporters

Oh no BENSON SCORED, I guess he is a Stud.

 

[Notinuse]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???

Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

 

[OddibeMcD]

And here comes the Benson supporters

Oh no BENSON SCORED, I guess he is a Stud.

Well, it does lower his YPC when he punches his TD's in. He couldn't get more than 3 yards there, but he had a full head of steam.

 

[Limp Ditka]

And here comes the Benson supporters

Oh no BENSON SCORED, I guess he is a Stud.

Well, it does lower his YPC when he punches his TD's in. He couldn't get more than 3 yards there, but he had a full head of steam.

Sorry pal, it actually raised it.He was 28 for 73 for 2.61 per before that.

 

[mdog1967]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

He may have just raised the entire Oakland Run Defense from 32 to 31 all by himself. Please dont even suggest that some how this proves he dont suck. He does and that we still have to debate is stupid, no its real stupid.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

not only does Benson suck, but he saves his best game for against me.

 

[OddibeMcD]

And here comes the Benson supporters

Oh no BENSON SCORED, I guess he is a Stud.

Well, it does lower his YPC when he punches his TD's in. He couldn't get more than 3 yards there, but he had a full head of steam.

Sorry pal, it actually raised it.He was 28 for 73 for 2.61 per before that.

Yes, but that was going to be the long run for the day...look at the tape, no defender was going to touch him after he got about five yards up the field.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

 

[Notinuse]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.oh i should probably explain this one huh. you always ignore the main point of a post. this one was that people came into this thread after he scored basically saying that it was total luck.which maybe it was. but if you're going to say he sucks, point to the ypc, his running style, whatever. not him scoring a td.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

 

[Notinuse]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

On average, how much time every day do you spend trolling internet forums?

 

[TheGolfBallKid]

I just dropped him from my team after starting him today. I may win or lose this game (tied going into tonight's game), but I don't want the temptation of starting him ever again. ............ I'm not picking anyone up in his stead, I'm just dropping Benson. He's a joke. It's time for him to take his money and retire. Sorry #### excuse for an NFL running back. I wish I could get that 4th round pick back....

 

[mlball77]

i'm not saying one way or the other that the guy stinks....... just wondering where everyone who said he was the man in Chicago and that Thomas Jones was a joke for the past 2 seasons is hiding out?

I'm a Bears fan and honestly wanted to keep the 1-2 punch of Jones and Benson together. When it became somewhat clear that such was not to be, I was more in the Benson camp than Jones. I can admit, I was wrong. I knew Jones was the superior all around back, but I thought Benson was at least the superior runner. Seems that Jones is better in every aspect other than maybe picking up short yardage. They actually complimented each others skill sets well. Benson with his head down, power running and Jones with much more patience and cutback-ability. Oh well. Looks like CHI needs a QB and RB.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

On average, how much time every day do you spend trolling internet forums?

how much time to you spend sounding like a fool by defending horsecrap football players? You think today was good? He averaged under 3 yards per carry against one of the wosrt run D's in the league and he got his starting QB killed by missing a blocking assignment.

 

[rascal]

thankfully he scored maybe I can trade him for a decent WR now.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

On average, how much time every day do you spend trolling internet forums?

how much time to you spend sounding like a fool by defending horsecrap football players? You think today was good? He averaged under 3 yards per carry against one of the wosrt run D's in the league and he got his starting QB killed by missing a blocking assignment.

I was about to say the identical thing, thanks for saying it for me.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I just dropped him from my team after starting him today. I may win or lose this game (tied going into tonight's game), but I don't want the temptation of starting him ever again. ............ I'm not picking anyone up in his stead, I'm just dropping Benson. He's a joke. It's time for him to take his money and retire. Sorry #### excuse for an NFL running back. I wish I could get that 4th round pick back....

Going in to today, he was RB25. You don't think getting RB25 in the 4th round was good value?

 

[mdog1967]

I just dropped him from my team after starting him today. I may win or lose this game (tied going into tonight's game), but I don't want the temptation of starting him ever again. ............ I'm not picking anyone up in his stead, I'm just dropping Benson. He's a joke. It's time for him to take his money and retire. Sorry #### excuse for an NFL running back. I wish I could get that 4th round pick back....

Going in to today, he was RB25. You don't think getting RB25 in the 4th round was good value?

Hey Colin, I think picking him up in the 4th round does indeed make him a decent pick, if you were able to snag some good WR options ahead of him. I still think he is terrible but I always respect what you have to say.

 

[Notinuse]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

On average, how much time every day do you spend trolling internet forums?

how much time to you spend sounding like a fool by defending horsecrap football players? You think today was good? He averaged under 3 yards per carry against one of the wosrt run D's in the league and he got his starting QB killed by missing a blocking assignment.

Reading comprehension, apparently not a strong suit around here.Did I ever say today was good? Nope. In fact he looked like crap. I saw the missed block, he's not much of a blocker or receiver which is a negative point against him.What I saw today is a guy who isn't putting his full effort, or even 50% of it, into every play. There were flashes of someone who could be a good NFL back. But it's not all there yet. Will it ever be? I don't know. Not this year for sure. But he's not the biggest problem in Chicago. He might be a problem but if you replace him it won't do as much good as getting a decent QB or upgrading the line.

 

[gianmarco]

I just dropped him from my team after starting him today. I may win or lose this game (tied going into tonight's game), but I don't want the temptation of starting him ever again. ............ I'm not picking anyone up in his stead, I'm just dropping Benson. He's a joke. It's time for him to take his money and retire. Sorry #### excuse for an NFL running back. I wish I could get that 4th round pick back....

Going in to today, he was RB25. You don't think getting RB25 in the 4th round was good value?

He's only RB25 due to a ton of injuries to many starting RB's and the fact he's missed no time and gotten a bajillion carries. Benson is nothing more than a spot start during bye weeks and those are over. He hasn't won a week for any teams. You would be better off on a ppg basis having a lot of other rb's then picking up their backups. Again, the only reason he's that high (which is not high at all) is that the production has mostly been split between a lot of starters and their backups. He is unstartable unless you owned Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, Larry Johnson, and DeShawn Wynn. And that's from a fantasy perspective. From an NFL perspective, I really don't think you can do any worse. This guy has gotten every chance in the world with tons of carries and simply can't get it done with a large workload and facing soft run defenses.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???

Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

On average, how much time every day do you spend trolling internet forums?

how much time to you spend sounding like a fool by defending horsecrap football players? You think today was good? He averaged under 3 yards per carry against one of the wosrt run D's in the league and he got his starting QB killed by missing a blocking assignment.

Reading comprehension, apparently not a strong suit around here.Did I ever say today was good? Nope. In fact he looked like crap. I saw the missed block, he's not much of a blocker or receiver which is a negative point against him.

What I saw today is a guy who isn't putting his full effort, or even 50% of it, into every play. There were flashes of someone who could be a good NFL back. But it's not all there yet. Will it ever be? I don't know. Not this year for sure.

But he's not the biggest problem in Chicago. He might be a problem but if you replace him it won't do as much good as getting a decent QB or upgrading the line.

Reading comprehansion is spot ####### on, pal

Wow Benson did something good for once

Not that he's looking great today

You said he did something good but was not great. Now, what's wrong with my reading comp again?

 

[Keith Lewis]

Reading comprehension, apparently not a strong suit around here.

Great, a scholar.

 

[TheGolfBallKid]

I just dropped him from my team after starting him today. I may win or lose this game (tied going into tonight's game), but I don't want the temptation of starting him ever again. ............ I'm not picking anyone up in his stead, I'm just dropping Benson. He's a joke. It's time for him to take his money and retire. Sorry #### excuse for an NFL running back. I wish I could get that 4th round pick back....

Going in to today, he was RB25. You don't think getting RB25 in the 4th round was good value?

He's only RB25 due to a ton of injuries to many starting RB's and the fact he's missed no time and gotten a bajillion carries. Benson is nothing more than a spot start during bye weeks and those are over. He hasn't won a week for any teams. You would be better off on a ppg basis having a lot of other rb's then picking up their backups. Again, the only reason he's that high (which is not high at all) is that the production has mostly been split between a lot of starters and their backups. He is unstartable unless you owned Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, Larry Johnson, and DeShawn Wynn. And that's from a fantasy perspective. From an NFL perspective, I really don't think you can do any worse. This guy has gotten every chance in the world with tons of carries and simply can't get it done with a large workload and facing soft run defenses.

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

 

[Statcruncher]

Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

You must not be a Bears fan otherwise you would know management wouldn't cut bait on a #4 pick this quick. I'm guessing he lasts as starter through '08 as well even though he sucks.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Not sure what your scoring system is, but in my league Fred Taylor is ranked 12 spots below Benson.

 

[MDSkinner]

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Not sure what your scoring system is, but in my league Fred Taylor is ranked 12 spots below Benson.

I think that is exactly the point. Benson is essentially 1 point a game better than Fred Taylor but was drafted somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 rounds or so earlier. In a value based system, 1 point a game does not make one feel good about drafting a guy in the second or third round as opposed to the 6th or 7th.

 

[OddibeMcD]

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Not sure what your scoring system is, but in my league Fred Taylor is ranked 12 spots below Benson.

I think that is exactly the point. Benson is essentially 1 point a game better than Fred Taylor but was drafted somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 rounds or so earlier. In a value based system, 1 point a game does not make one feel good about drafting a guy in the second or third round as opposed to the 6th or 7th.

Spot =/= point

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Not sure what your scoring system is, but in my league Fred Taylor is ranked 12 spots below Benson.

I think that is exactly the point. Benson is essentially 1 point a game better than Fred Taylor but was drafted somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 rounds or so earlier. In a value based system, 1 point a game does not make one feel good about drafting a guy in the second or third round as opposed to the 6th or 7th.

The point may or may not be valid. I'm just questioning the fact base -- which is that Taylor was the same value 3-4 rounds later. He WASN'T the same value that much later - he was a slightly lower value (2 pts per week in my league). I'd just like to see accurate facts, then make an assessment. So yeah, 3-4 rounds later seems like a reasonable tradeoff for 2 pts per week.Just so that nobody gets confused (yeah, I mean you KellysHeroes), please don't read this as a defense of Benson. He looked brutal yet again today, minus a few decent plays.

 

[TheGolfBallKid]

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Not sure what your scoring system is, but in my league Fred Taylor is ranked 12 spots below Benson.

I think that is exactly the point. Benson is essentially 1 point a game better than Fred Taylor but was drafted somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 rounds or so earlier. In a value based system, 1 point a game does not make one feel good about drafting a guy in the second or third round as opposed to the 6th or 7th.

The point may or may not be valid. I'm just questioning the fact base -- which is that Taylor was the same value 3-4 rounds later. He WASN'T the same value that much later - he was a slightly lower value (2 pts per week in my league). I'd just like to see accurate facts, then make an assessment. So yeah, 3-4 rounds later seems like a reasonable tradeoff for 2 pts per week.Just so that nobody gets confused (yeah, I mean you KellysHeroes), please don't read this as a defense of Benson. He looked brutal yet again today, minus a few decent plays.

As a frame of reference for my bashing of Benson, in our scoring system (albeit a very strange one), Benson has 48 pts, Kenton Keith has 48pts., and Taylor has 34 pts. Those are YTD prior to today's games. I drafted Keith in rd. 19 of 20. Benson in rd. 4. Taylor went in the 7th rd per my recollection. Bottom line, Benson was a horrible value there in hindsight. Going forward, I'd much rather start MJD as a 1/2 time RB, than Benson who is supposed to be their undisputed #1. As such, it's better for me not to have to deal w/ the headache that is Benson. He's a wasted pick.I'm only mad at myself for taking him as early as I did.

 

[flapgreen]

 

[North]

Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

You must not be a Bears fan otherwise you would know management wouldn't cut bait on a #4 pick this quick. I'm guessing he lasts as starter through '08 as well even though he sucks.

Wouldn't cut bait this quick?? He has had 3 years to prove he deserves to be a starter. He couldn't win the job so Chicago gave it to him and what has he done with this gift wrapped opportunity?Benson supporters can choose any excuse they want for why this team isn't getting it done on the ground, but the numbers don't lie. He's just not that good!

 

[Statcruncher]

Face the facts, Benson stinks but the Bears won't do anything about it until the off season. Write this one down-- HE WON'T BE THE STARTER IN CHICAGO NEXT YEAR. Thats how good he is!

You must not be a Bears fan otherwise you would know management wouldn't cut bait on a #4 pick this quick. I'm guessing he lasts as starter through '08 as well even though he sucks.

Wouldn't cut bait this quick?? He has had 3 years to prove he deserves to be a starter. He couldn't win the job so Chicago gave it to him and what has he done with this gift wrapped opportunity?Benson supporters can choose any excuse they want for why this team isn't getting it done on the ground, but the numbers don't lie. He's just not that good!

When it comes to Chicago management avoiding blame 3 years is too quick. Benson will be the starter in '08 and unless he performs way below his current suckitude he will finish the year as the starter. As a Bears fan I'm not expecting to be rid of him until '09. I hope to Butkus I'm wrong, but experience tells me I'm not.

 

[Notinuse]

Wow Benson did something good for once, I guess that is just further evidence of how he sucks. ???

Not that he's looking great today (I'm watching the game, posted my observations on how he looks in the game thread) but still.

Still sticking up for Cedric? WOW

You're a tool.

Says the guy slobbering at Bensons holy feet.

On average, how much time every day do you spend trolling internet forums?

how much time to you spend sounding like a fool by defending horsecrap football players? You think today was good? He averaged under 3 yards per carry against one of the wosrt run D's in the league and he got his starting QB killed by missing a blocking assignment.

Reading comprehension, apparently not a strong suit around here.Did I ever say today was good? Nope. In fact he looked like crap. I saw the missed block, he's not much of a blocker or receiver which is a negative point against him.

What I saw today is a guy who isn't putting his full effort, or even 50% of it, into every play. There were flashes of someone who could be a good NFL back. But it's not all there yet. Will it ever be? I don't know. Not this year for sure.

But he's not the biggest problem in Chicago. He might be a problem but if you replace him it won't do as much good as getting a decent QB or upgrading the line.

Reading comprehansion is spot ####### on, pal

Wow Benson did something good for once

Not that he's looking great today

You said he did something good but was not great. Now, what's wrong with my reading comp again?

Doing something good =! the whole day being good so there's that or are you going to argue that running for a td wouldn't be classified as good

 

[Colin Dowling]

I just dropped him from my team after starting him today. I may win or lose this game (tied going into tonight's game), but I don't want the temptation of starting him ever again. ............ I'm not picking anyone up in his stead, I'm just dropping Benson. He's a joke. It's time for him to take his money and retire. Sorry #### excuse for an NFL running back. I wish I could get that 4th round pick back....

Going in to today, he was RB25. You don't think getting RB25 in the 4th round was good value?

He's only RB25 due to a ton of injuries to many starting RB's and the fact he's missed no time and gotten a bajillion carries. Benson is nothing more than a spot start during bye weeks and those are over. He hasn't won a week for any teams. You would be better off on a ppg basis having a lot of other rb's then picking up their backups. Again, the only reason he's that high (which is not high at all) is that the production has mostly been split between a lot of starters and their backups. He is unstartable unless you owned Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, Larry Johnson, and DeShawn Wynn. And that's from a fantasy perspective. From an NFL perspective, I really don't think you can do any worse. This guy has gotten every chance in the world with tons of carries and simply can't get it done with a large workload and facing soft run defenses.

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Yep. Considering that AD Peterson went two picks behind me. You tell me where the value was. Hell, I could've picked up Fred Taylor 3-4 rounds later and received the same value. Benson was a wasted pick, pure and simple.

Not sure what your scoring system is, but in my league Fred Taylor is ranked 12 spots below Benson.

I think that is exactly the point. Benson is essentially 1 point a game better than Fred Taylor but was drafted somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 rounds or so earlier. In a value based system, 1 point a game does not make one feel good about drafting a guy in the second or third round as opposed to the 6th or 7th.

All of these things may be true, but if I were to tell you you could get RB25 in the 4th round before your draft started, you'd probably be pretty stoked. The fact that other people who went later have performed similarly or better is immaterial.