Benson Is Terrible (2 Viewers)

[AnonymousBob]

I'm thinking of trading Travis Henry for Benson and a top wr.

Not really. It's a ballsy move if I do indeed make it but it would SIGNIFICANTLY improve my wr's and my first rb is Tomlinson. It depends how I think Benson will fare for the rest of the season. I in no way, shape or form think he's going to score as many fantasy points as Travis Henry but if he can average around 10-12 ppg from here on out, I would come out ahead. If Benson will be a serviceable rb this season, I can't imagine his value will be ANY lower than it is right now. If he's going to flop then that's a different story. I just cannot fathom Adrian Peterson taking over for Cedric Benson. The Bears have a phenomonal defense and a good offensive line. So long as Benson stays healthy, will somebody please tell me how he will fail to finish top 20? Chester Taylor isn't anything special-he appears to be average (at best). Yet last year he had a VERY solid fantasy season (when healthy). It had very little to do with his talent-he didn't do much with the ball but he got a LOT of work.

 

[wtu311]

Whats with these rumours of the Bears speaking to Corey Dillon.

 

[Irish]

I'm thinking of trading Travis Henry for Benson and a top wr.

Why do you see this as a fishing trip. Henry is a huge injury risk and will be worthless to his owner if he is hurt again come FF playoff time. Henry has only played 1 full season out of 6. Benson replaces Henry in the lineup and he nabs a top wr to balance out his team.

 

[Franknbeans]

Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!

We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2

Did you notice Turner got 4.1 YPC while LT averaged 1.4 YPC?

This makes no sense. Benson was never a league MVP. Even you can see that, no?

 

[AnonymousBob]

I'm thinking of trading Travis Henry for Benson and a top wr.

Why do you see this as a fishing trip. Henry is a huge injury risk and will be worthless to his owner if he is hurt again come FF playoff time. Henry has only played 1 full season out of 6. Benson replaces Henry in the lineup and he nabs a top wr to balance out his team.

I have complete confidence in Henry finishing the season and playing in all 16 games.

 

[rascal]

Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!

We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2

Did you notice Turner got 4.1 YPC while LT averaged 1.4 YPC?

This makes no sense. Benson was never a league MVP. Even you can see that, no?

Has Adrian?Of course it makes sense. You are drawing a conclusion from one game that he started in and judging him based on the YPC of his backup. That is faulty logic as shown by comparing LT and Turners YPC in the same game.

 

[playin4beer]

Mark me down as a "hopeful" Benson owner. I'm hoping he proves all the naysayers wrong.....but for now he is stashed on my bench behind J.Addai, R.Bush, M.Lynch, & D.Ward.

You in 8 team league to have Addai, Bush, Lynch all on one team? Dynasty - Or no WR?

10 team redraft...couple of rookies, couple of sharks, and a few decent guys..I have NO WR's to speak of..Took Addai #6 overall 1st roundTook Bush #15 overall 2nd roundTook Lynch #45 overall 5th round Was taking Lynch in the 3rd round, but we start 3 WR's and I figured I'd better take one (L.Fitzgerald). Passed on Lynch again the the 4th Round for D.McNabb. HAD to take him in the FIFTH Round..But like I said we start 3-WR's and my roster looks like thisL.FitzgeraldJ.GallowayD.JaxP.CraytonM.Jones

 

[AnonymousBob]

I'm interested in seeing what his detractors would project him for. He received 20 touches in the first game-that is rather promising.

So, he'll get 20+ touches per game. HUGE plus.

What's the downside? Is Adrian Peterson REALLY going to steal his job? He was drafted in the sixth round in 2002 and he's only NOW going to erupt? That's beyond being a later bloomer. It's rather unlikely he is a rising star.

So, assuming Benson stays healthy (that is a risk you take with ALL rb's), he's going to get boatloads of touches behind a good defense and an amazing offensive line.

 

[BoulderBob]

Benson looked terrible last weekend for the same reason LT looked terrible, the offensive line was dominated by the defensive line. This shouldn't happen versus 28 or so of NFL teams.

 

[RavensUNFL]

This is something many Bears fans have known for quite some time. That is why we were so pissed when they discarded Thomas Jones. Benson is not an elusive runner. He doesn't have the instincts you would like to see in a franchise back. He is Curtis Ennis reincarnated.

Ennis or another first round choker like Rashaan Salaam, he was pretty bad also. Think I would take Benson over either of these 2.

 

[The_Head_Ape]

I used my first pick on him in a 2 keeper league (3.1) ....

It is obvious that they will let ANYONE join this forum.

 

[EBF]

I'm interested in seeing what his detractors would project him for. He received 20 touches in the first game-that is rather promising. So, he'll get 20+ touches per game. HUGE plus.What's the downside? Is Adrian Peterson REALLY going to steal his job? He was drafted in the sixth round in 2002 and he's only NOW going to erupt? That's beyond being a later bloomer. It's rather unlikely he is a rising star.So, assuming Benson stays healthy (that is a risk you take with ALL rb's), he's going to get boatloads of touches behind a good defense and an amazing offensive line.

Just because he had 20+ touches in week one doesn't mean that trend will continue. If he continues to perform poorly, the threat of Peterson taking carries will grow. And Peterson doesn't have to "erupt" or be a "rising star" to take carries. He just has to be more effective than Benson. That doesn't seem like a far-fetched scenario. Thomas Jones was better than either of these guys and he was only a RB2 last season, so I think people expecting a big season from Benson are in for disappointment. The only Bear I want on my FF team is Berrian. The rest of the team should be avoided.

 

[mr. furley]

For a minute I thought you might be overreacting to a week 1 performance on the road against a top D. Clearly you didn't. Carry on.

 

[mr. furley]

Does he have a ways to go? DEFINITELYDid he not look very explosive? NOIsn't the first game of the season usually a bit strange? YESDoesn't SD have one of the stoutest defenses in the league right now? YOU GOT IT!Not defending Benson too much here, but he was indeed against one of the top defenses in the NFL. Their passing game still sucks. And they still have to rely on their defense to win games for them...I think he'll come around at some point, once he starts seeing the # of carries he gets per game go down. He'll get the message loud and clear...

this is what i love about the SP. posts like this go totally overlooked.. if they are noticed at all then 99% of the time it's people shooting the guy down and claiming he's an idiot for not over-reacting and panicking after 1 game.

 

[Franknbeans]

Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!

We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2

Did you notice Turner got 4.1 YPC while LT averaged 1.4 YPC?

This makes no sense. Benson was never a league MVP. Even you can see that, no?

Has Adrian?Of course it makes sense. You are drawing a conclusion from one game that he started in and judging him based on the YPC of his backup. That is faulty logic as shown by comparing LT and Turners YPC in the same game.

what conclusion?

 

[Sweetness_34]

100+ yards....

 

[flapgreen]

100+ yards....

I'm happy with it. If Benson can keep this up for most of the year, I'll be a believer.

 

[PsychoMan]

100+ yards....

I'm happy with it. If Benson can keep this up for most of the year, I'll be a believer.

hey you're comin around!

 

[flapgreen]

100+ yards....

I'm happy with it. If Benson can keep this up for most of the year, I'll be a believer.

hey you're comin around!

I've never hated Benson. Just thought he's been mediocre and hasn't lived up anywhere near his draft status. He still doesn't look like a top back by any stretch. One good day against a below average defense doesn't erase his mediocrity over the last 2 seasons. A good season would do that in my eyes. I hope he does it.Rex, on the other hand, seems like a lost cause. I've officially gotten off the Rex bandwagon. :(ETA: You gotta love our defense and special teams though.

 

[Colin Dowling]

This was on the 3rd page. Hm.

It's a start. I still think he gets to 1200+ yards on the ground this season. He's clearly going to be given the load to do so.

 

[Power Monster]

Still not impressed. They should have put KC away and they kept punting the ball back to them which tells me that he was not getting it done. He finally had that burst in the last few minutes but he looks slow and he just falls forward. No TDs? WoW! I think he is coming around. Maybe we should warm some milk and get him some cookies while we wait for his game to come around. Any time now Ennis junior....

 

[Brutis]

Still not impressed. They should have put KC away and they kept punting the ball back to them which tells me that he was not getting it done.

Problem with teams that get a nice lead is that the team that is losing KNOWS they are going to run the ball. I find it works better for fantasy RB's if the game is close and there is atleast a threat of a passing game.

 

[Power Monster]

True but the better running teams will just dare that defense to stop them. With that OL and being at home they should have just pounded it right down their throats. KC is a bottom feeder. With the Cowboys coming into town the Bears better run the damn ball with a 4th quarter lead or it will be 1-2....

 

[Colin Dowling]

Still not impressed. They should have put KC away and they kept punting the ball back to them which tells me that he was not getting it done. He finally had that burst in the last few minutes but he looks slow and he just falls forward. No TDs? WoW! I think he is coming around. Maybe we should warm some milk and get him some cookies while we wait for his game to come around. Any time now Ennis junior....

Good Shtick.

 

[Power Monster]

Still not impressed. They should have put KC away and they kept punting the ball back to them which tells me that he was not getting it done. He finally had that burst in the last few minutes but he looks slow and he just falls forward. No TDs? WoW! I think he is coming around. Maybe we should warm some milk and get him some cookies while we wait for his game to come around. Any time now Ennis junior....

Good Shtick.

Really? You like Benson? Great. I think he is a bust.....

 

[Brutis]

True but the better running teams will just dare that defense to stop them. With that OL and being at home they should have just pounded it right down their throats. KC is a bottom feeder.

I dont think that Chicago O line is good enough to run effectively against a Defense with 8 in the box waiting for the run like KC obviously was. Chicago needs a balance attack imo.

 

[flapgreen]

Agreed that he looks slow. Not sure how he's gonna fix that.

 

[Power Monster]

You cannot fix slow. At the position where he was drafted he is not going to be an elite back. He will bully weaker defenses with a pounding game. The Bears OL is top 5 in the NFL. They were getting it done with Jones and Benson last year when it counted. I agree they need to be balanced but with a 4th quarter lead they have to do better than that. If they are trailing in a close game in the 4th quarter- I am not going to feel confident with the Benson Grossman combo....

 

[flapgreen]

You cannot fix slow. At the position where he was drafted he is not going to be an elite back. He will bully weaker defenses with a pounding game. The Bears OL is top 5 in the NFL. They were getting it done with Jones and Benson last year when it counted. I agree they need to be balanced but with a 4th quarter lead they have to do better than that. If they are trailing in a close game in the 4th quarter- I am not going to feel confident with the Benson Grossman combo....

 

[GroveDiesel]

Still not a big Benson fan. One week does not a season make. His two biggest advantages seem to be that the Bears are going to run the ball a lot and they have a very easy schedule. Benson himself is not all that impressive.

 

[Supercool]

Still not a big Benson fan. One week does not a season make. His two biggest advantages seem to be that the Bears are going to run the ball a lot and they have a very easy schedule. Benson himself is not all that impressive.

No it doesn't but you all were using that one game last week to say how big of a bust he was.

 

[flapgreen]

Still not a big Benson fan. One week does not a season make. His two biggest advantages seem to be that the Bears are going to run the ball a lot and they have a very easy schedule. Benson himself is not all that impressive.

No it doesn't but you all were using that one game last week to say how big of a bust he was.

Please quit saying that. No one thinks he sucks because of one game.

 

[Sweetness_34]

You cannot fix slow. At the position where he was drafted he is not going to be an elite back. He will bully weaker defenses with a pounding game. The Bears OL is top 5 in the NFL. They were getting it done with Jones and Benson last year when it counted. I agree they need to be balanced but with a 4th quarter lead they have to do better than that. If they are trailing in a close game in the 4th quarter- I am not going to feel confident with the Benson Grossman combo....

Is this the same great Thomas Jones who has run for ~50 & 70 yards his 1st 2 games this year? I cannot believe the hype TJ gets around here.....a never-has-been who is useless now that he does not run behind the Bears OL. The Bears OL made TJ respectable.....no reason Benson cannot do what TJ did last year, injuries notwithstanding.

 

[Keith Lewis]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.

Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team.

Just because Benson hit the magic "100" yard mark doesn't change the fact that he looks like crap. I'll go out on a limb and predict a 22 carry, 57 yard game vs. Dallas this week.

 

[huckyoda]

This was on the 3rd page. Hm.It's a start. I still think he gets to 1200+ yards on the ground this season. He's clearly going to be given the load to do so.

Kansas City. San Diego put up 267 rushing yards against these losers last year. Justin Fargas put up 90 in 19 carries against KC. Benson is a bad, bad running back.

 

[Brutis]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team.

You are leaving out the Offensive Line in all of this. SD completely manhandled the Chicago O Line.

 

[Irish]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team.

You are leaving out the Offensive Line in all of this. SD completely manhandled the Chicago O Line.

When Brady, Moss and Co. get traded to the Bears then you can compare Maroney and Benson vs SD. Benson has freakin Grossman and Berrian. Nuff said.

 

[Fantasy Fix Fred]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team. Just because Benson hit the magic "100" yard mark doesn't change the fact that he looks like crap. I'll go out on a limb and predict a 22 carry, 57 yard game vs. Dallas this week.

I wouldn't take maroney and that RBBC mess in NE over Benson at this point. Benson's numbers have to get better as the season progresses. Its early and I cant believe how much hate Benson gets here. Benson is in the perfect situation to succeed along with a soft schedule in 2007. I think Grossman is the problem on chicago not benson.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team.

You are leaving out the Offensive Line in all of this. SD completely manhandled the Chicago O Line.

When Brady, Moss and Co. get traded to the Bears then you can compare Maroney and Benson vs SD. Benson has freakin Grossman and Berrian. Nuff said.

That was too easy.

 

[RBM]

Couple of snippets in the Sun-Times for the "soft" and "goes down on first contact" crowd.

Benson said his performance -- which included 85 yards after the initial hits -- in the Bears' 20-10 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs sent somewhat of a message after San Diego's Shaun Phillips questioned Benson's toughness last week.

''I think he got unfairly criticized last week,'' Tait said. ''There were times today where they had more guys than we could block, and he showed what he can do. He's a good running back. He runs people over. It's just the beginning, the start of a good career.''

 

[AnonymousBob]

After week one he was a dog. After week two, he's on his way to Canton.

 

[Keith Lewis]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team. Just because Benson hit the magic "100" yard mark doesn't change the fact that he looks like crap. I'll go out on a limb and predict a 22 carry, 57 yard game vs. Dallas this week.

16-46... Close enough. He still sucks. Notice he didn't finish the game after he fumbled. Must be resting him.

 

[EBF]

He's just not a special talent in the NFL. He's a decent player, but he doesn't have the exceptional qualities needed to transcend his mediocre supporting cast.

 

[cobalt_27]

After week one he was a dog. After week two, he's on his way to Canton.

Said who?

 

[flapgreen]

Just give him a chance.

 

[Limecuda]

There is no offensive player that can be said to suck for the Bears except Grossman. After watching the game tonight it is blatantly obvious you could have LT in that backfield and the opponent will continue to stack the box. Grossman makes them all look bad. I am definitely a Cowboy fan, but in Benson's defense it didnt look like he fumbled.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Benson = Bust

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck,......... It's a duck!

 

[Raider Nation]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team. Just because Benson hit the magic "100" yard mark doesn't change the fact that he looks like crap. I'll go out on a limb and predict a 22 carry, 57 yard game vs. Dallas this week.

16-46... Close enough. He still sucks. Notice he didn't finish the game after he fumbled. Must be resting him.

Yeah, because LOTS of running backs get carry after carry after carry when their team is trailing by 2+ TDs in the 2nd half.Your act is as fresh as a Foghat concert.

 

[dparker713]

I still think he sucks, he's slow and is a quitter.Good think Maroney is the new whipping boy around here, Maroney and his 5.2 YPC against SD compared to Bensons 2.1 YPC against the same SD team. Just because Benson hit the magic "100" yard mark doesn't change the fact that he looks like crap. I'll go out on a limb and predict a 22 carry, 57 yard game vs. Dallas this week.

16-46... Close enough. He still sucks. Notice he didn't finish the game after he fumbled. Must be resting him.

Yeah, because LOTS of running backs get carry after carry after carry when their team is trailing by 2+ TDs in the 2nd half.Your act is as fresh as a Foghat concert.

Its plain as day that the only reason he'll have any value this year is because he has zero competition. Im sure he'll have some good games over the course of the season, the law of averages will take care of that. But he's not going to be a player you can confidently plug into the RB2 hole. He's a situational start and had an ADP of a sure starter.

 

[ATRAIN56]

Benson has out rushed LJ does that make LJ a bust this season? LJ had under 2 yards a carry this week......