Keith Lewis
Footballguy
:11: Go ahead and make your case for Benson > LJ. I won't even counter an argument, good luck making your case.
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duaneok66
Footballguy
so what, LJ is a STUD, didn't you read all those prediction threads a month ago stating that he was a LOCK to put up top 3 numbers???
PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
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Irish
Footballguy
I see that you fail to mention his TD. Benson did not fumble, he was down when the defender rip the ball out. AP is the 3rd down back and was in the game when the Bears were down by 2 tds. You'll see a big difference in how teams play the Bears when Griese is the qb.16-46... Close enough. He still sucks. Notice he didn't finish the game after he fumbled. Must be resting him.
H.K.
Footballguy
The problem is Grossman and play calling. Nobody respects the Bears passing game in the first place, but they are such an easy team to defend with their play selection.The Bears need to leave Benson in on third down because he is a better pass protector than Peterson, and they also need to throw to Benson more out of the backfield to loosen things up. They won't do either of those things btw and people will blame Benson (who isn't great by any stretch but he is their best RB by far) for their failings on offense.
twitch
Footballguy
I wonder what kindof potential Benson would have if he actually played on a team with an NFL calibler starting QB? One TD and 6 picks in 3 games? Grossman just flat stinks. The moment the Bears make a QB change will officially the moment Benson no longer 'blows'. I mean Ive heard of 'brand loyalty', but cmon Lovie? How much more evidence do you need to know your QB is a bum??
Supercool
Footballguy
When you have 3 guys in the backfield ant the snap of the ball you aren't going to find many running lanes, Their O-line is brutal right now. Yes I am a Benson owner but I also have D Ward or Barber III to replace him. When he had time at the beginning of the game he did pretty good then they just started to attack the running game and waited for Grossman to throw it away.
Their Playcalling and offense in general is too pedantic and predictable.The O-line isn't what it was last yearGrossman needs an injection of confidence, because Griese is not the answer.
Dont blame Benson. Like Grossman they are victims. They have no bussiness ever being first round picks, they are back up material at best. It is not their fault. They are mediocre player put into starting rolls. Bears do not know how to judge offensive talent. The Bears should never draft an offensive player in the first round again. If they need to draft offense they should trade down every time. Where is Curtis Enis when you need him.No Benson just really sucks bad ...............REALLY BAD
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Who is defending this guy today? Are you kidding me another fumble and he did not even play for much of the 4th quarter. It was a HUGE mistake to let Jones go. I am a Bears fan and they are not going to even sniff the playoffs. Angelo can pick defensive players but he is clueless when it comes to offensive players that are number one pick caliber. Rex McKown needs to sit on the bench and shine shoes....
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
I'll try to package Benson for LJ this week.
mr. furley
Footballguy
he was running hard and running people over early. the Bears line sucked. if it weren't for Grossman absolutely imploding and Romo's brilliant play the game would have been much closer offering more opportunity to run the ball and wear down the defense.
people seem to think that RB's are the only ones who affect their own performance. as though line play, WR's blocking & getting open and QB play have no effect on how defenses handle the run.
eta: read back to the last couple seasons. i've been a TJ supporter in the past and thought he deserved the starting role. i don't own Benson in any leagues and hate the Bears.
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another fumble lol.....Hes had only 3 fumbles in 300 carries
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I think Benson is plenty talented, but he's never going to get to the 22+ carry plateau where the real fantasy points are with that bad of Q and Def play. The bears are terrible.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
eta: read back to the last couple seasons. i've been a TJ supporter in the past and thought he deserved the starting role. i don't own Benson in any leagues and hate the Bears.
The Benson bashing has reached ridiculous proportions.Are people who watched the game actually ripping him for his performance yesterday? You've gotta be kidding. The irrational dislike is making what happens on the field completely irrelevant. Every carry for a one yard loss is TOTALLY because he sucks.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I've got Benson in a keeper league. I've been watching this guy since college and have never really been impressed. But I wanted to see what he could do this year with the starting job. After 3 games, I really don't like what I see. It just seems to confirm what most of us suspected the last couple of years and even before the draft. That Benson is not a special talent. He's a pedestrian RB that needs a strong system to put up decent numbers. Sure Grossman is part of the problem, but I really don't see anything that stands out about Benson.
mr. furley
Footballguy
and i think the Bears have a good foundation for a strong running game. they should be grinding it out and pounding people in to submission. they seem to have fallen in love with the idea that Berrian can just streak down the middle and Grossman will hit him 1 of 3 attempts.
stop letting Grossman be the deciding factor. at least until he proves that he can be consistent.
not sure what's going on with that defense but they didn't look like the '06 version last nite.
i don't think he's LT or anything but he's got the right size to pound teams for 3.5 ypc. break a run here and there and put a TD on the board 8-10 times this season. maybe COlin is right and he'll never get that 22+ carries per game though
stop letting Grossman be the deciding factor. at least until he proves that he can be consistent.
not sure what's going on with that defense but they didn't look like the '06 version last nite.
i don't think he's LT or anything but he's got the right size to pound teams for 3.5 ypc. break a run here and there and put a TD on the board 8-10 times this season. maybe COlin is right and he'll never get that 22+ carries per game though
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
Was just offered LJ for Benson - I have Benson for cheap next year too - LJ is a FA - I'm doing it! rather have a stacked line against LJ than Benson's mediocre game for 2 more years - I assume since this is a Benson sucks thread everyone agrees?
Brutis
Footballguy
Tough for the Bears to be grinding anything out when they are behind the entire 2nd half in 2 of 3 games so far.
mr. furley
Footballguy
yeah.. that's why i said "should".Tough for the Bears to be grinding anything out when they are behind the entire 2nd half in 2 of 3 games so far.
Fantasy Fix Fred
Footballguy
I have officially given up on Benson. The Bears are a mess on offense right now and after 3 games I don't see Benson stepping up this season at all, even with griese behind center.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The guy is absolutely useless.
Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I hoped the QB change would actually have defenses at least think about respecting the pass, but I guess I was wrong.Maybe I can trade him to another owner for some Doritos and salsa.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It was either Benson or Edge for me today, and it's not like Edge is gonna get 125 & 2 TDs.If he can't run on the Lions, it might just be hopeless.I hoped the QB change would actually have defenses at least think about respecting the pass, but I guess I was wrong.Maybe I can trade him to another owner for some Doritos and salsa.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
acme
Footballguy
I officially agree with the original post. Benson is just not good.It was either Benson or Edge for me today, and it's not like Edge is gonna get 125 & 2 TDs.If he can't run on the Lions, it might just be hopeless.I hoped the QB change would actually have defenses at least think about respecting the pass, but I guess I was wrong.Maybe I can trade him to another owner for some Doritos and salsa.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Running a lot better in the 2nd H. Not that he could have done worse.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Glad you came around.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Me too
So let's see, that makes QB, RB, and O-line as areas Angelo needs to address in the off-season. :(
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
You started Enis over Edge today? You deserve to lose.It was either Benson or Edge for me today, and it's not like Edge is gonna get 125 & 2 TDs.If he can't run on the Lions, it might just be hopeless.I hoped the QB change would actually have defenses at least think about respecting the pass, but I guess I was wrong.Maybe I can trade him to another owner for some Doritos and salsa.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
RBM
Footballguy
Two things.
1. Benson runs very lazy. Never see him run with any urgency or fire.
2. The o-line could be shot. We cant be surprised. Miller and Brown are ancient. Tait is getting up there as well, and got hurt today. Garz is the youngest, but also the weakest link. Just cant understand how they ignored the o-line year after year after year in the draft.
Benson seems like the type of guy that is just not going to make something out of nothing. He needs a big time o-line to run behind, and it just doesnt seem like this o-line is up to the task.
1. Benson runs very lazy. Never see him run with any urgency or fire.
2. The o-line could be shot. We cant be surprised. Miller and Brown are ancient. Tait is getting up there as well, and got hurt today. Garz is the youngest, but also the weakest link. Just cant understand how they ignored the o-line year after year after year in the draft.
Benson seems like the type of guy that is just not going to make something out of nothing. He needs a big time o-line to run behind, and it just doesnt seem like this o-line is up to the task.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I knew there was a reason I liked you, RN.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
We've all been there. Unfortunately, most on this board will never admit when they're wrong. Hell, I stood behind Grossman till the very end. 
There's a reason I haven't like Benson over the last 3 years and it isn't because I something personal against the guy. I truly want him to succeed but he just sucks. He has no explosion and fumbles the ball. Benson is only one of our many problems on offense though. It's a complete mess.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
You started Enis over Edge today? You deserve to lose.It was either Benson or Edge for me today, and it's not like Edge is gonna get 125 & 2 TDs.If he can't run on the Lions, it might just be hopeless.I hoped the QB change would actually have defenses at least think about respecting the pass, but I guess I was wrong.Maybe I can trade him to another owner for some Doritos and salsa.The guy is absolutely useless.Sorry it took me so long to see the light.
14.4 points (Edge) to 7.4 points (Benson)... BFD.I'm still winning my game handily.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I can't remember being this wrong about a player. I tried unsuccessfully (thankfully) to trade for him in my big dynasty league and I have him in my big money keeper. I watched most of the game today and I can honestly say the guy runs like a hedgehog runs from a big dog. No purpose, no conviction, and no heart. I'm hoping Dominic Rhodes or Jerious Norwood can be my #2 back because Benson is a marginal start even against a bad defense.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Well, in college he was the perfect guy to wear down Baylor in the 4th quarter. In the NFL, he lacks burst among other things.
Jimboozie
Footballguy
x2 I thought he was a good value in the 3rd round range. Fortunately, I only landed him in one league.
twistd
Footballguy
Don't forget WR and Safety. Muhammed is getting old and slow. Berrian can't seem to remember how to catch the ball sometimes. No one else amongst the WRs seems to be worth anything. No point in even considering Mike Brown coming back. It is a train wreck.Me too
twistd
Footballguy
It's funny to me that Benson gets all the blame here. The Bears O-line is really bad. They can't block for the run or the pass. If someone was blocking for Benson it might be interesting to see how he looks. A lot of average runners look good when they get blocking, and conversely, good backs look very average with poor line play. Last year both Jones and Benson looked pretty good. The line was getting people blocked. This year they can't do much of anything. The O-line is something they will have to address in the off-season. This isn't going to get any better during the year.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Keep laughing. Barry Sanders always had bad lines in front of him, LJ has a bad line in front of him this year, and your boy Walter Payton had bad lines for years. Benson isn't very good.
Southside Stosh
Footballguy
twistd
Footballguy
Barry Sanders and Walter Payton were only two of the best backs to ever play the game. They are the exceptions not the rule. No one would dream of putting Benson in the same category with Sanders and Payton. But LJ, who is one of the best in the league now, is struggling with poor line play. LJ is a heck of a lot better than Benson. My contention is that Benson looks worse than he is because his line is terrible. He isn't special, but he could be adequate if he was getting help.Doctor Detroit said:
Fantasy Fix Fred
Footballguy
I DRAFTED HIM THINKING HE WAS A SOLID #2, BOY WAS I WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE DOES BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
BUT YOU ARE FANTASY FIX FRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO GO FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I drafted Peterson anticipating this sort of unimpressive production from Benson, and quite frankly the first four weeks couldn't have gone worse for Benson.
Nonetheless, I'm beginning to wonder if Peterson is worth much even if his touches increase significantly.
Lots of other interesting options on the WW these days, given the rash of injuries (Caddy, Jordan, etc.) and the impressive play of guys like Selvyn Young and Kenton Keith. Even if Peterson gets his chance eventually, I'm not sure he's worth more than some of these other guys.
Nonetheless, I'm beginning to wonder if Peterson is worth much even if his touches increase significantly.
Lots of other interesting options on the WW these days, given the rash of injuries (Caddy, Jordan, etc.) and the impressive play of guys like Selvyn Young and Kenton Keith. Even if Peterson gets his chance eventually, I'm not sure he's worth more than some of these other guys.
