Illegal Pants Downfield
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When you read it aloud, that almost sounds like a drunk chick talking about the symptoms of her STD...
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Best "triplets" (QB1-RB1-WR1) ever? (1 Viewer)
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Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
My first thought was Young/Rice/Watters in '94 in terms of fantasy seasonsWatters: 1600 total yards, 11 TDRice: 112/1499/15 TDYoung: 3969 yards, 42 TD, 11 INT
bentley
Footballguy
If you measure "talent and impact" in terms of fantasy production, then I agree. There's nothing in the original post to indicate that's what we're judging on.CalBear said:I think Craig is as good or better a RB than Irvin was a WR. I think the problem with the Cowboys trio is that other than Smith, they didn't post ridiculous numbers. Certainly their super bowl success puts them in the discussion however.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Montana/Rice/Craig is my vote. IMO Emmitt basically carried those Cowboy teams (Aikman>Irvin prospered BECAUSE of Emmitt, not the other way around). On the 49er teams I think Montana/Rice basically carried those 49er teams (Craig prospered BECAUSE the passing game, not the other way around). IMO 2/3 great players to 1/3 great players gives it to the 49ers.Edit: I definetely think Manning/Edge/Harrison has to be in this conversation also, whether they won a super bowl or not. I only rule out Kelly/Thimas/Reed because I don't believe Reed belongs in this conversation.If you measure "talent and impact" in terms of fantasy production, then I agree. There's nothing in the original post to indicate that's what we're judging on.CalBear said:
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Brady, Kevin Faulk, Troy Brown
IMO, the Offensive Line carried Emmitt.
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
Every great team has an extraordinary offensive line. Montana did what he did partly because he had time to throw. Troy had the same benefit. Emmitt did what he did partly because he had holes to hit. What's your point? The offensive line carried Montana so we should discount his and Rice's numbers? Is Emmitt the only RB in history that had a good line? Of course not. I'm not bashing the 9ers (although I'm not a fan) - they were phenominal and I miss routing against those guys. But on the basis of wins and Super Bowls - the bottom line - Aikman/Irvin/Smith are definately near the top of this debate. They led the resurrection of a 1-15 team to the playoffs just 2 seasons later and on to 3 Super Bowl victories in 4 years. That stands with anybody. Sorry Cowboy haters.
My point was that the Offensive Line was the key to those Cowboy teams success, in contrast to what jerseydevil said (Emmitt was the key to the 90's Cowboys).I don't see how pointing out that the Cowboys success was due to having one of the very best(if not the best) Offensive Lines ever is "hating" on the Cowboys.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Speaking of Roy Green, didn't that guy play quite a bit in the secondary as well (both at CB and S)? Or am I thinking of someoe else?
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Favre to sharpe in 94 was solid -
Favre - 3882 passing, 33 tds, 14 ints, 202 rushing and 2 tds.
Sharpe - 94 recepts 1119 yds with 18 tds.
No real rb threat to match the other posts though- Bennett had just under 1200 total yds with 9 tds.
Favre - 3882 passing, 33 tds, 14 ints, 202 rushing and 2 tds.
Sharpe - 94 recepts 1119 yds with 18 tds.
No real rb threat to match the other posts though- Bennett had just under 1200 total yds with 9 tds.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
hence my post. Best 6 offensive players on one team ever.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
If you are looking at fantasy stats...then both Irvin and Aikman were weak links. But if we're just talking NFL football, Irvin was an absolute stud. Everytime you hear a Cowboy talk about those great teams of the early '90s, they, to a man, say that Irvin was the leader and the 'heart and soul' of the team. He lived up to his Playmaker nickname and delivered clutch catch after clutch catch.
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
For the last 15 years or so, a British spread betting firm has offered a highly volatile "Triplets" market on every live game (we get two Sunday games plus MNF).
This originated with the Cowboys triplets and they carried it on by applying it to the perceived top QB/RB/WR combo of each team each wekk.
The system awards 1 point for each rush, pass and rec yard each of the three players gets, plus 10pts per TD, and -5pts per turnover. Thus a 20-yard TD pass from Aikman to Irvin would gain 60pts.
The better either buys or sells a la stock market and sets the stake and a typical quote would be something like 380-400. If the make up was 450 and you had bought at 400, you would win 50 times your stake, but if you had sold at 380, wou would lose 70 times your stake (I did say it was volatile!).
In the time this market has been running, the only two Triplet combinations that have habitually been quoted at above 500 have been the Rams (both with Bruce and Holt) in the late 90s and the Colts a couple of years ago. Usually quoted at 510-530 or 520-540. A brave man's buy considering that if just one of them gets hurt you're staring down the barrel of huge losses.
I can't remember what the lowest pre-match quote has been - probably around 230-250 for some team with a rookie QB and RBBC - but I remember a very nice quote when the Fiedler-led Dolphins were quoted at around 270-290 prior to that famous OT MNF game against the Jets.
This originated with the Cowboys triplets and they carried it on by applying it to the perceived top QB/RB/WR combo of each team each wekk.
The system awards 1 point for each rush, pass and rec yard each of the three players gets, plus 10pts per TD, and -5pts per turnover. Thus a 20-yard TD pass from Aikman to Irvin would gain 60pts.
The better either buys or sells a la stock market and sets the stake and a typical quote would be something like 380-400. If the make up was 450 and you had bought at 400, you would win 50 times your stake, but if you had sold at 380, wou would lose 70 times your stake (I did say it was volatile!).
In the time this market has been running, the only two Triplet combinations that have habitually been quoted at above 500 have been the Rams (both with Bruce and Holt) in the late 90s and the Colts a couple of years ago. Usually quoted at 510-530 or 520-540. A brave man's buy considering that if just one of them gets hurt you're staring down the barrel of huge losses.
I can't remember what the lowest pre-match quote has been - probably around 230-250 for some team with a rookie QB and RBBC - but I remember a very nice quote when the Fiedler-led Dolphins were quoted at around 270-290 prior to that famous OT MNF game against the Jets.
SSOG
Moderator
Come on, no way. I'm assuming you mean skill-position offensive players? John Elway/Terrell Davis/Shannon Sharpe/Rod Smith/Ed McCaffrey/Anthony Miller down? And if you want to count the big boys, too, what about Dwayne Carswell, Gary Zimmerman, Tom Nalen, Tony Jones, Mark Schlereth, Dan Neil?
DOVCommish
Footballguy
Okay, maybe not....how 'bout
Young/Watters/Rice
After Dallas and Indy, the first thing that came to mind. Absolute gold in the early/mid-90's.
Young/Watters/Rice
After Dallas and Indy, the first thing that came to mind. Absolute gold in the early/mid-90's.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Bradshaw-Harris-Swann
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
Yitbos69
Footballguy
1983 Skins
Joe T/Riggins/C. Brown
Quarterbacks
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Joe Theismann | 16 | 276 459 60.1 3714 8.1 29 11 | 37 234 1 |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
Running Backs
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| John Riggins | 15 | 375 1347 3.6 24 | 5 29 5.8 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Wide Receivers
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Charlie Brown | 15 | 4 53 13.2 0 | 78 1225 15.7 8 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Joe T/Riggins/C. Brown
Quarterbacks
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Joe Theismann | 16 | 276 459 60.1 3714 8.1 29 11 | 37 234 1 |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
Running Backs
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| John Riggins | 15 | 375 1347 3.6 24 | 5 29 5.8 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Wide Receivers
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Charlie Brown | 15 | 4 53 13.2 0 | 78 1225 15.7 8 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Yitbos69
Footballguy
1984 Skins
Joe T/Riggins/Monk
Quarterbacks
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Joe Theismann | 16 | 283 477 59.3 3391 7.1 24 13 | 62 314 1 |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
Running Backs
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| John Riggins | 14 | 327 1239 3.8 14 | 7 43 6.1 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Wide Receivers
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Art Monk | 16 | 2 18 9.0 0 | 106 1372 12.9 7 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Joe T/Riggins/Monk
Quarterbacks
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Joe Theismann | 16 | 283 477 59.3 3391 7.1 24 13 | 62 314 1 |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
Running Backs
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| John Riggins | 14 | 327 1239 3.8 14 | 7 43 6.1 0 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
Wide Receivers
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Name | G | RSH YARD AVG TD | REC YARD AVG TD |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
| Art Monk | 16 | 2 18 9.0 0 | 106 1372 12.9 7 |
+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+
kevthegrad
Footballguy
hands down:
Tim Rattay
Kevan Barlow
Brandon Lloyd
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Tim Rattay
Kevan Barlow
Brandon Lloyd
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Definitely Favre - Gerhart - Moss.
GoBills02
Footballguy
I also agree completely.. 2 out of the 3 Montana and Rice are Goats at their position, and Craig was a top tier RB who was a trailblazer to all the versatile rush/receive backs to follow.. Add to that a couple of Superbowls with that combo and there really is no one that can compare
maxwjom0
Footballguy
Ha Ha! Hilarious!
ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
Graham/Motley/Lavelli.
Palmer/Johnson/Johnson. Call me in a few years.
NinerFan49
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
The Triplets
3 SB's, all HOFers.
you can say what you want about Aikmans' numbers, but the dude was clutch, period.
Irvin was the emotional leader of the those Cowboys teams. goes beyond numbers. it's about the will to win and the ability to get your teammates up.
Emmitt is just simply a true warrior. one of my favorites of all time, and one of the best football players of all time.
3 SB's, all HOFers.
you can say what you want about Aikmans' numbers, but the dude was clutch, period.
Irvin was the emotional leader of the those Cowboys teams. goes beyond numbers. it's about the will to win and the ability to get your teammates up.
Emmitt is just simply a true warrior. one of my favorites of all time, and one of the best football players of all time.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
This is the trio I would select as well.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Young, Rice and Watters weren't bad either.
Fixeder.1995, started 0-3, then went on a tear to finish 10-6 putting up some unheralded and unmatched offensive numbers, at least in the 16 game era
Mitchell 4338-32-12
Barry 314-1500-11 with another 48-398-1 on the receiving end
Moore 123-1686-14
Perriman 108-1488-9
Morton 44-590-8 as well as a ton of return yards.
That's a top 6 QB season, a top 3 RB season and two top 5 WR seasons, as well as a boom or bust flex type player.
No TE production tho...yes, a Lions fan. Yes, it's been that long since we had something to be proud about.
SSOG
Moderator
Colorado Springs. Close enough.
I think Denver deserves to be mentioned, but i dont they would fair very well in a poll. As far as the top 6 skill players, i would take the 80's Chargers all day. I do agree with you about the Oline though, they were one of the best units i have ever seen. The Hogs, and the early 90's Cowboys are probably the only olines i can think off hand that were better.For fantasy, I agree. Young also had 7 rushing TDs. If they hadn't been ahead by so much in so many games, it would've been even better.
I was going to say thatFor an 11 week period:Favre/Peterson/MossToo soon?
in FF i would take: Schaub / Foster / AJSimilar threads
