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For some reason, I see him more like Matt Stafford right now. If Bortles learns to protect the ball better, then he can take the next step. With his continued progress so far, I see no reason why he couldn't easily get into the top 10 dynasty QBs, maybe at #5-6. I own him in my dynasty league, so I'd love to see him be the equal of Luck. If he does bring down his turnovers, he does have a chance to become that level of QB. With the other skill position players he has, he has significant potential for great numbers for FFB. If JAX rebuilds that OL for him, that would be a signal to me that he is ready to take the next step higher in his career. Looking good so far, though.
In that list I posted above you'll see that Bortles, Stafford, and Cam were the only QB's under 60% completion rate. Bortles also had the lowest AY/A on the list.
Too bad we didn't get see what could have been with Blackmon starting opposite Robinson.
I don't mind a 23 year old QB who still has flaws to fix.
Jagaurs run inside the 10. They don't run well. They refuse to spread out the formation when they run.Stafford was 23 in 2011.
He never really got better and didn't fix his flaws. The comparisons are many between the two of them.
Some guys just don't improve regardless of their age. Bortles' completion percentage and rating stand out pretty glaringly on the graph cstu posted. He's putting up fantasy points on volume and because Jacksonville refuses to run inside the 10.
Olson really has no clue what will work because they've tried everything. Four straight dives to Gerhardt (R.I.P.) - denied. Three straight rushes to Denard - weeks later, still wondering WTF. Fades, crossing routes, whatever.JaxBill said:Jagaurs run inside the 10. They don't run well. They refuse to spread out the formation when they run.Grahamburn said:Stafford was 23 in 2011.
He never really got better and didn't fix his flaws. The comparisons are many between the two of them.
Some guys just don't improve regardless of their age. Bortles' completion percentage and rating stand out pretty glaringly on the graph cstu posted. He's putting up fantasy points on volume and because Jacksonville refuses to run inside the 10.
Is your argument that because Stafford didn't develop more Bortles won't?Grahamburn said:Stafford was 23 in 2011.
He never really got better and didn't fix his flaws. The comparisons are many between the two of them.
Some guys just don't improve regardless of their age. Bortles' completion percentage and rating stand out pretty glaringly on the graph cstu posted. He's putting up fantasy points on volume and because Jacksonville refuses to run inside the 10.
No. It's just a counterpoint to the "He's young so he'll get better" argument. Not all guys get better simply because they're still young.Is your argument that because Stafford didn't develop more Bortles won't?Stafford was 23 in 2011.
He never really got better and didn't fix his flaws. The comparisons are many between the two of them.
Some guys just don't improve regardless of their age. Bortles' completion percentage and rating stand out pretty glaringly on the graph cstu posted. He's putting up fantasy points on volume and because Jacksonville refuses to run inside the 10.
With 1 week to go...
This was, what, about 90 minutes after he was dead to you?
This was, what, about 90 minutes after he was dead to you?
That 90 yarder to AR15 was one of the sweetest moments I have ever experienced in FF. I had Reed and DWill in the books so it was looking good, but damn that was fun to slam the door shut in one play.
His second interception put my laptop in serious jeopardy.
Funny, I nearly destroyed a dinner plate when he got picked off the second time. From 31 yds and 2 ints (-3 pts) to 360+ and 4 tds and a title in my local. Thanks also to Julio and Reed but Bortles was really my season savior.This was, what, about 90 minutes after he was dead to you?
That 90 yarder to AR15 was one of the sweetest moments I have ever experienced in FF. I had Reed and DWill in the books so it was looking good, but damn that was fun to slam the door shut in one play.
Not sure who man man crush is bigger on him or Jordan Reed.
Yep. Jax was the king of the 2nd half catch up, garbage time stats. Rode Bortles and ARob to a title because of it.
To be fair, the same could be said about Luck in 2014. People had higher opinions of Luck beforehand, so they see what they want to see.
Doesn't matter, he's turned into a very good quarterback because he has the skill set, the physical attributes, and good coaching. Just as they are always behind is just as they weren't able to run without Yeldon, and Bortles has turned an undrafted WR (Hurns) into a budding star. The bad defense helps his fantasy standing but once he reduces his propensity for mistakes, he will become both an elite fantasy and IRL QB.
WTF, dude? You hate everyone so you're opinion doesn't mean much of anything. Can't you just stick to the Freeman thread and just #### all over that one?
Yup. #### poster.
You own him and Freeman huh? I'm sorry bro. You can fix it by trading them this offseason.
He can't hit the broadside of a barn and he soaked up all kinds of garbage time stats.
Looks like you are doing the same after the guy had one bad week. Keep going though, always good to have material to bump.
The Jags are down 2-3 scores before the end of the first quarter half the time. Then Bortles throws 50 times against soft defenses. Rinse/RepeatLooks like you are doing the same after the guy had one bad week. Keep going though, always good to have material to bump.
Oh please. 2 great WRs. Great te. He's far from the only qb with a shaky line and poor run game. Most qbs would give anything for the 2 wrs and te bortles has to throw to.
Agreed
Hearns was undrafted, Bortles makes him a lot better than he is. Robinson was a 2nd round pick, definitely a lot of talent there but he and Bortles play very well together. You think Julius Thomas is "great?" I think he's pretty good but he's not an exceptional talent. Yeldon provides the balance the team needs and we are still talking about a second year QB here. He's gotta a lot of things to work on but his ceiling is very high.
