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Breaking Bad on AMC (3 Viewers)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I re-watched the last 3 episodes last night and it finally hit me how Walt was able to get the ricin into Lydia's drink.
It's pretty simple, really...he got to the coffee shop first.
In every other instance where she orders tea she has to ASK for the Stevia. In this episode, though, it's already at the table. By the look on her face it even strikes her as odd that it's at the table.
It's a bit of suspension of disbelief to think that Walt would know which table she was going to sit at, but sometimes you just have to go with it.
It's pretty simple, really...he got to the coffee shop first.
In every other instance where she orders tea she has to ASK for the Stevia. In this episode, though, it's already at the table. By the look on her face it even strikes her as odd that it's at the table.
It's a bit of suspension of disbelief to think that Walt would know which table she was going to sit at, but sometimes you just have to go with it.
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Brady Marino
Footballguy
Not really. She sits at that exact same table in the exact same spot during her dealings with Walt and he had no reason to believe she'd break the routine with Todd. She's predictable.
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Joe T
Footballguy
Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
She normally sat next to the window. The table with the ricin was more in the middle of the place.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Of course it was irrational. It was an emotional decision.Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This decision seemed completely in-character to me. Regardless of what he was saying at the time, Walt was always drawn to the meth business because of the excitement and sense of fulfillment it gave him. It was never really about the money or his family. (Obviously he says so explicitly in the finale, but it was like that all the way back in the very first season).Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That last scene between Walt and Skylar is so incredible.
The fact that it's devoid of supporting musical soundtrack underscores how empty the characters are. And the performances...obviously outstanding.
"I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And...I was...really...I was alive."
The fact that it's devoid of supporting musical soundtrack underscores how empty the characters are. And the performances...obviously outstanding.
"I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And...I was...really...I was alive."
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Rove!
Footballguy
I remeber the one ep where he quit ("out?") and he was fixing stuff in the house like the hot water tank and he's just not fulfilled. He goes to Home Depot and spots two guys who look like they are buying stuff for a meth lab and he confronts them. At that point, we knew that this criminal life was his addiction.This decision seemed completely in-character to me. Regardless of what he was saying at the time, Walt was always drawn to the meth business because of the excitement and sense of fulfillment it gave him. It was never really about the money or his family. (Obviously he says so explicitly in the finale, but it was like that all the way back in the very first season).Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H5fL6WCf9Y
so piviotal and so underrated an episode...
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No, she always asks for more stevia, since she puts enough in to fill a dump truck, so there being only one there for her seems about right.
Plus, she used to meet Walt there and they always sat at that same table. I suspect that if someone had grabbed that table first, Walt would have found a way to stumble over, acting like a bum, to nab the stevia packet so a stranger didn't ingest the ricin.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Ah, well either way that makes perfect sense. She used the only one that was at the table, which was the one that Walt put there.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
The upside was $80M. After Sky shows him the pile of money, he basically retired. It all worked perfectly but for Hank reading that book on the ####ter.Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
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Joe T
Footballguy
Well, it would of been a better ending had they taken the $5m each and moved to the bahamas or something.Of course it was irrational. It was an emotional decision.Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It would have been a happier ending, but not better.Well, it would of been a better ending had they taken the $5m each and moved to the bahamas or something.Of course it was irrational. It was an emotional decision.Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
I haven't watched the episode recently, but I remember having the same thought. But this was maybe because the scene was shot differently than we've ever seen that table... they shot from the 'outside looking in' angle because there were 3 people at the table, shooting it the normal way all you'd see is the back of Walt's head. But if I remember correctly, it is the usual Lydia table, there may have been an earlier shot which oriented it in the scene at the usual spot.
Rove!
Footballguy
Skyler would not have moved with 5m anymore than she did with 80mIt would have been a happier ending, but not better.Well, it would of been a better ending had they taken the $5m each and moved to the bahamas or something.Of course it was irrational. It was an emotional decision.Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Hank also would have still read the book on the ####ter
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I read that as implying that Walt left with the $5m, leaving Skyler behind...and taking the book with him.Skyler would not have moved with 5m anymore than she did with 80mIt would have been a happier ending, but not better.Well, it would of been a better ending had they taken the $5m each and moved to the bahamas or something.Of course it was irrational. It was an emotional decision.Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Hank also would have still read the book on the ####ter
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Gale's diary was the evidence.
The book was a copy of Leaves of Grass that Gale gave Walt as a gift.
The book was a copy of Leaves of Grass that Gale gave Walt as a gift.
belljr
Footballguy
the lab notes diary had to wwthe book had an inscription from Gale that read to my other ww.
Joe T
Footballguy
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
eurotrashman
Footballguy
Great callI remeber the one ep where he quit ("out?") and he was fixing stuff in the house like the hot water tank and he's just not fulfilled. He goes to Home Depot and spots two guys who look like they are buying stuff for a meth lab and he confronts them. At that point, we knew that this criminal life was his addiction.This decision seemed completely in-character to me. Regardless of what he was saying at the time, Walt was always drawn to the meth business because of the excitement and sense of fulfillment it gave him. It was never really about the money or his family. (Obviously he says so explicitly in the finale, but it was like that all the way back in the very first season).Maybe the biggest thing that bothered me about the series was that Walt didn't get out when he had the chance with Jesse and Mike. Just sell the 1,000 gallons Methlomene (spelling) for $15m and be done with it. And yes, I understand Walt had a huge ego and they made a point to try to tie in all the Gray Matter stuff, but it just seemed irrational. The choice was really to take the $5m and be safe and have his family safe or turn down the $5m for potentially more money, but have the continued risk to himself and his family.
It was kind of an easy decision and seemed really dumb of him not to take it. There was really no upside to continuing to cook.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Says hits netflix on FEb. 24. Doesn't specify streaming, but I assume that's what they mean?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/breaking-bad-netflix_n_4577578.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/breaking-bad-netflix_n_4577578.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
The show is incredible, as you probably already know. If you have managed to avoid spoilers so far, I would probably stay out of this thread. Just a heads up to make the experience even more enjoyable.
Abraham
Footballguy
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Golden Globes for Cranston and the Series, wish Paul would have gotten one too... All well deserved. The writing was off the charts - agree Gilligan is a genius..
Rove!
Footballguy
All of the writers really.Judge Smails said:
The passion and attention to detail brought forth in the writer's room, along with the synergy with the directors and cast, may be something that future series' will want to look at as a model.
For those who've seen the whole thing, there's an episode the The Writer's Room on Sundance hosted by Jim Rash (from Community) where they talk to some of the writers. It's a pretty good watch....
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3C's
Footballguy
Righetti
Footballguy
As a parent. I'd be on the lookout for other sociopathic behavior if I caught my kid doing this. This seems like the kind of behavior that foreshadows a mass murder like a kid who abuses animals or, at minimum, foreshadows a life like Sid in Toy Story
shadyridr
Footballguy
this just dawned on you?
shadyridr
Footballguy
funny you mention that and i know the exact reason you do. Similar to you, my MIL was diagnosed with lung cancer about a mnth before we started watching this so the first season kind of hit home. But it definitely fades away and wasnt tough to watch after that.
shadyridr
Footballguy
buying a car wash can be seen as investment. Buying an expensive car is nothing but frivolous
Abraham
Footballguy
Buying a car wash would seem to be an investment and can be financed. Buying a new car would present increased wealth , which is different all together.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Yeah, midway through season two and while there were a few tough moments, that issue hasn't been too bad so far. Definitely hooked on the show now and am excited that I have 4+ seasons to go. Really looking forward to the ride!
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
kutta
Footballguy
But she is soooooooooooooooo concerned about the perception that they have extra money, then they go off and buy a car wash. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. They don't just give anyone a loan to buy a car wash, especially a high school chemistry teacher who probably makes $40K per year. Seems like they could have come up with a way to launder the money without tipping off that they had money.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Slightly OT, but we have a local rat-face-ambulance-chasing attorney who reminds me so much of Saul.
Wayne Resmini
His commercials are on TV constantly, and his slogan is.......
So embarrassing.
Wayne Resmini
His commercials are on TV constantly, and his slogan is.......
IN PAIN??? CALL WAYNE!
So embarrassing.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Rewatching on netflix from s1ep1. Walt and skylar show up at elliots party wearing blue suit and blue dress. Everyone else is wearing white or beige. Interesting foreshadow. Less subtly, he is introduced by a colleague as a master of crystallography.
Abraham
Footballguy
Das Boot
Footballguy
Correct, as well as the additional illusion Skylar would have wanted to maintain that they had to scrape and scrimp to buy the car wash and have no extra money left for new cars.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
How could he have ever trusted that lunatic?
The seller might give anyone who already knows how to run the car wash a loan secured by the shares in, or the assets of, the car wash.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Yeah, that's an interesting take. Walt had very serious misgivings about Jesse at that point in the franchise (well, they always had a strained relationship at best, but they weren't tied to each other then like they were later on) and you could see Walt ditching him for somebody more reliable. But I don't think Crazy 8 was "reliable." I think Walt was naively just going to let him go and hope for the best.
