The Hank
Footballguy
Yeah, this got me thinking -- the name of the episode "The Fly" could be also referring to Walt as a sort of "fly-on-the-wall" for being there during Jane's death - saw everything unfold but did nothing to save her
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Righetti
Footballguy
Maybe it's Walt's instinct as a teacher that doesn't see the notes as an issue. He's had a thousand landry's in his classes and realized that it. Ever really sets in and the only way for them to half get it, is to memorize it.
JAMES!
Footballguy
Just binge watched the whole series this last week. Finished the finale about 10 minutes ago. What a show. Basically one long movie in 62 parts. I didn't even know which episodes were the season finales as I was watching. Can't wait for the Better Call Saul prequel spin-ff.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Plus, if the cops find the notes, odds are that they're standing in a friggin' meth lab and don't exactly need more evidence.
17seconds
root of all aliai
I always thought of it as Walt not being shrewd yet but on the 2nd watch it's just as likely he was going to go with Crazy 8. Jessie was a complete baffoon early on and Walt made comments about Crazy 8 being a businessman. It's exactly the kind of guy he really needed - a midlevel dude with some smarts. He only chose Jessie initially because he had no other connections.
Question: Does anyone know the cheapest/easiest way to get Season 6? I gave my dad Seasons 1-5 but he'll probably run through them before I see him again to give him Season 6. Don't say bitorrent... I mean best way to rent. He doesn't have Netflix.
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The Hank
Footballguy
If your dad has a netflix account and a computer he can stream it using the tutorial below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRb5wIVvt4A
This is what I did and it worked perfectly
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/22/aaron-paul-to-star-in-the-dark-tower-adaptation
This makes way too much sense.
This makes way too much sense.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Righetti
Footballguy
I don't think it matters...even if the book came from Gretchen, Hank has had his ah-ha moment. It would actually be cruel irony if it did come from Gretchen, which would explain why Walt was so careless with the book, but it winds up being what sets up Walt's ultimate demise
Note to the Righetti of the future....when you get to page 333 of this thread and they have started discussing purity again you have permission to report them all to JB
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Has this been posted yet? (you take the good, you take the breaking bad, you take them both and there you have The Facts of Life...)
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
How much would it cost to have one of those newfangled heated floors installed in the bathroom like Beneke has?
I need a valid reason to invite my MILFy secretary over for a nice hot shower.
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I need a valid reason to invite my MILFy secretary over for a nice hot shower.
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timschochet
Footballguy
Just watched the scene where Gus invites Walt over for dinner. Gus appears to be a gourmet cook. Whatever he made looks delicious.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Walt knew his way around the kitchen too. He whipped up a dandy looking dinner in "IFT"...
RUSF18
Footballguy
My brother in law just put that (radiant heating I think) in the master bath of their new house which they did a major renovation on. If you're not including pulling up the existing floor, the answer is not much at all.
The Hank
Footballguy
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
I found a similar solution for even less:http://m.target.com/s?kwr=y&searchTerm=bath+rug&category=0|All-D|matchallpartial|all+categories?lnk=snav_rd_bath%20rug
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timschochet
Footballguy
Hospital Orderly(to Jesse, who is in a wheelchair): Sir, you can't smoke within 100 feet of the entrance.
Jesse: Wheel me farther, #####!
Jesse: Wheel me farther, #####!
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Righetti
Footballguy
But they don't know that it's a black operation, for all they know the entire DEA is in on it
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Das Boot
Footballguy
I agree it's logically unlikely Jack would take the chance of leaving Walt alive, especially having just scored $69M.
However Walt was equally at risk from the DEA, and Walt had said that the rest of the DEA was not involved in Hank's operation.
Also Jack is reluctant to kill Walt due to Todd's respect for Walt.
So plot-wise, we have to accept that Jack would trust Walt to be both knowledgeable about the DEA's non-involvement, and truthful about it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Emerson Biggens
Footballguy
I just started watching this (finally) two weeks ago. I'm already 4 episodes into season 3 and completely hooked. Great show.
I'm glad it is completely available on netflix now because I was already trying to figure out how to get the last several when the time came.
I'm glad it is completely available on netflix now because I was already trying to figure out how to get the last several when the time came.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
New season starts in October, right?
Brady Marino
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
Fun with character arcs (SPOILERS)
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Season 1, episode 5:
Walter: Alright, I've got the Talking Pillow now. Okay? We all, in this room, love each other. We want what's best for each other and I know that. I am very thankful for that. But...what I want...what I want, what I need, is a choice.
Skyler: What does that...mean?
Walter: Sometimes I feel like I never actually make any of my own. Choices, I mean. My entire life it just seems I never...you know, had a real say about any of it. Now this last one, cancer...all I have left is how I choose to approach this.
Skyler: Then make the right choice, Walt. You're not the only one it affects. What about your son? Don't you wanna see your daughter grow up? I just...
Walter: Of course I do. Skyler, you've read the statistics. These doctors...talking about surviving. One year, two years, like it's the only thing that matters. But what good is it, to just survive if I am too sick to work, to enjoy a meal, to make love? For what time I have left, I want to live in my own house. I want to sleep in my own bed. I don't wanna choke down 30 or 40 pills every single day, lose my hair, and lie around too tired to get up...and so nauseated that I can't even move my head. And you cleaning up after me? Me, with...some dead man, some artificially alive...just marking time? No. No. And that's how you would remember me. That's the worst part. So...that is my thought process, Skyler. I'm sorry. I just...I choose not to do it.
Season 4, episode 8
GARY (random guy at oncology office)
It's like what they say: man plans and God laughs.
WALTER WHITE
That is such bull####.
GARY
Excuse me?
WALTER WHITE
Never give up control. Live life on your own terms.
GARY
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying, but, uh, cancer is cancer.
WALTER WHITE
To hell with your cancer. I've been living with cancer for the better part of a year. Right from the start, it's a death sentence. That's what they keep telling me. Well, guess what? Every life comes with a death sentence, so every few months I come in here for my regular scan, knowing full well that one of these times – hell, maybe even today – I'm gonna hear some bad news. But until then, who's in charge? Me. That's how I live my life.
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Season 1, episode 5:
Walter: Alright, I've got the Talking Pillow now. Okay? We all, in this room, love each other. We want what's best for each other and I know that. I am very thankful for that. But...what I want...what I want, what I need, is a choice.
Skyler: What does that...mean?
Walter: Sometimes I feel like I never actually make any of my own. Choices, I mean. My entire life it just seems I never...you know, had a real say about any of it. Now this last one, cancer...all I have left is how I choose to approach this.
Skyler: Then make the right choice, Walt. You're not the only one it affects. What about your son? Don't you wanna see your daughter grow up? I just...
Walter: Of course I do. Skyler, you've read the statistics. These doctors...talking about surviving. One year, two years, like it's the only thing that matters. But what good is it, to just survive if I am too sick to work, to enjoy a meal, to make love? For what time I have left, I want to live in my own house. I want to sleep in my own bed. I don't wanna choke down 30 or 40 pills every single day, lose my hair, and lie around too tired to get up...and so nauseated that I can't even move my head. And you cleaning up after me? Me, with...some dead man, some artificially alive...just marking time? No. No. And that's how you would remember me. That's the worst part. So...that is my thought process, Skyler. I'm sorry. I just...I choose not to do it.
Season 4, episode 8
GARY (random guy at oncology office)
It's like what they say: man plans and God laughs.
WALTER WHITE
That is such bull####.
GARY
Excuse me?
WALTER WHITE
Never give up control. Live life on your own terms.
GARY
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying, but, uh, cancer is cancer.
WALTER WHITE
To hell with your cancer. I've been living with cancer for the better part of a year. Right from the start, it's a death sentence. That's what they keep telling me. Well, guess what? Every life comes with a death sentence, so every few months I come in here for my regular scan, knowing full well that one of these times – hell, maybe even today – I'm gonna hear some bad news. But until then, who's in charge? Me. That's how I live my life.
bostonfred
Footballguy
***(SPOILER) And the pivot point in his descent was in the bestest episode ever, Fly (3.10).
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Walter: I've been to my oncologist, Jesse. Just last week. I'm still in remission. I'm healthy.
Jesse: That's good. Great.
Walter: No end in sight.
Jesse: That's great.
Walter: No. I missed it. There was some perfect moment that passed me right by, but I had to have enough to leave them. That was the whole point. None of this makes any sense if I didn't have enough. And it had to be before she found out. Skyler. It had to be before that.
Jesse: Perfect moment? For what? To drop dead? Are you saying you want to die?
Walter: I'm saying that I lived too long. You want them to actually miss you. You want their memories of you to be...but she just won't...she just won't understand. I mean, no matter how well I explain it, these days she just has this...this... I mean, I truly believe there exists some combination of words. There must exist certain words in a certain specific order that can explain all of this, but with her I just can't ever seem to find them.
Jesse: Mr. White, why don't you just sit down.
Walter: You know, I was thinking before the fugue state, but during the fugue state I didn't have enough money, so no, not then. And plus my daughter wasn't born yet. It had to be after Holly was born.
Jesse: Mr. White...
Walter: Definitely before the surgery. Ah Christ, that damn second cell phone. I mean, how could I possibly? [pause] Oh, I know the moment. It was the night Jane died. I was at home and we needed diapers and so I said I'd go, but it was just an excuse. Actually that was the night I brought you your money, remember?
Jesse: Yeah. I remember.
Walter: And afterward I stopped at a bar. It was odd, I never do that – go to a bar alone. I just walked in, sat down. I never told you.
Jesse: You went to a bar?
Walter: I sit down and this man, this stranger, he engages me in conversation. He's a complete stranger. But he turns out to be Jane's father, Donald Margolis.
Jesse: What are you talking about?
Walter: Of course I didn't know it at the time. I mean, he's just some guy in a bar. I just didn't put it together until after the crash when he was all over the news.
Jesse: Jane's dad?
Walter: Think of the odds. Once I tried to calculate them, but they're astronomical. I mean, think of the odds of me going in and sitting down that night, in that bar, next to that man.
Jesse: What'd you talk about?
Walter: Water on Mars. Family.
Jesse: What about family?
Walter: I told him that I had a daughter and he told me he had one, too. And he said, "Never give up on family." And I didn't. I took his advice. My God, the universe is random, it's chaos. It's subatomic particles and endless pings, collision – that's what science teaches us. What does this say? What is it telling us that the very night that this man's daughter dies, it's me who is having a drink with him? I mean, how could that be random?
[Walter stumbles, starting to succumb to the sleeping pills]
Jesse: Hey, sit down.
Walter: No, no, it's, uh... Oh, that was the moment. That night. I should never have left home. Never gone to your house. Maybe things would have... Oh, I was...I was at home watching TV. Some nature program about elephants...and Skyler and Holly were in another room. I can hear them on the baby monitor. She was singing a lullaby. Oh, if I had just lived right up to that moment...and not one second more. That would have been perfect.
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Walter: I've been to my oncologist, Jesse. Just last week. I'm still in remission. I'm healthy.
Jesse: That's good. Great.
Walter: No end in sight.
Jesse: That's great.
Walter: No. I missed it. There was some perfect moment that passed me right by, but I had to have enough to leave them. That was the whole point. None of this makes any sense if I didn't have enough. And it had to be before she found out. Skyler. It had to be before that.
Jesse: Perfect moment? For what? To drop dead? Are you saying you want to die?
Walter: I'm saying that I lived too long. You want them to actually miss you. You want their memories of you to be...but she just won't...she just won't understand. I mean, no matter how well I explain it, these days she just has this...this... I mean, I truly believe there exists some combination of words. There must exist certain words in a certain specific order that can explain all of this, but with her I just can't ever seem to find them.
Jesse: Mr. White, why don't you just sit down.
Walter: You know, I was thinking before the fugue state, but during the fugue state I didn't have enough money, so no, not then. And plus my daughter wasn't born yet. It had to be after Holly was born.
Jesse: Mr. White...
Walter: Definitely before the surgery. Ah Christ, that damn second cell phone. I mean, how could I possibly? [pause] Oh, I know the moment. It was the night Jane died. I was at home and we needed diapers and so I said I'd go, but it was just an excuse. Actually that was the night I brought you your money, remember?
Jesse: Yeah. I remember.
Walter: And afterward I stopped at a bar. It was odd, I never do that – go to a bar alone. I just walked in, sat down. I never told you.
Jesse: You went to a bar?
Walter: I sit down and this man, this stranger, he engages me in conversation. He's a complete stranger. But he turns out to be Jane's father, Donald Margolis.
Jesse: What are you talking about?
Walter: Of course I didn't know it at the time. I mean, he's just some guy in a bar. I just didn't put it together until after the crash when he was all over the news.
Jesse: Jane's dad?
Walter: Think of the odds. Once I tried to calculate them, but they're astronomical. I mean, think of the odds of me going in and sitting down that night, in that bar, next to that man.
Jesse: What'd you talk about?
Walter: Water on Mars. Family.
Jesse: What about family?
Walter: I told him that I had a daughter and he told me he had one, too. And he said, "Never give up on family." And I didn't. I took his advice. My God, the universe is random, it's chaos. It's subatomic particles and endless pings, collision – that's what science teaches us. What does this say? What is it telling us that the very night that this man's daughter dies, it's me who is having a drink with him? I mean, how could that be random?
[Walter stumbles, starting to succumb to the sleeping pills]
Jesse: Hey, sit down.
Walter: No, no, it's, uh... Oh, that was the moment. That night. I should never have left home. Never gone to your house. Maybe things would have... Oh, I was...I was at home watching TV. Some nature program about elephants...and Skyler and Holly were in another room. I can hear them on the baby monitor. She was singing a lullaby. Oh, if I had just lived right up to that moment...and not one second more. That would have been perfect.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I love that he went from being afraid to make choices and being afraid of dying, to making hard choices and wishing he'd died at the right time, to not being afraid of dying and making his own choices to live life on his own terms. There's other quotes, but those three really stand out imo.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Yep, the fly episode was great.
Riversco
Footballguy
Anna Gunn and David Tennant are remaking the acclaimed UK series Broadchurch for US audiences. The American version is called Gracepoint and will air on Fox this fall.
Here is first photo from shooting on the new drama series:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/02/14/first-photo-david-tennant-anna-gunn-broadchurch-gracepoint/
Here is first photo from shooting on the new drama series:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/02/14/first-photo-david-tennant-anna-gunn-broadchurch-gracepoint/
bentley
Footballguy
The Fly was 55 minutes of steaming turd capped 5 of the best minutes in the entire show. I'm willing to give it a pass because of the speech above, but most of that episode sucked.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I've tried watching the fly with an open mind, but it just doesn't work. I thought it was an out of place clunker the first time I watched it (not knowing that most others thought it blew also), and I'm still firmly of that opinion after two re-viewings. If you like it, great. It's by far the worst episode of the series and there's no candidate for runner-up.
Edit: To put it in perspective, that particular episode is still a little better than average by the standards of "good television." The Columbus Day and JFK Hat episodes of The Sopranos are clearly and objectively worse, and that's an awesome series it its own right.
Edit: To put it in perspective, that particular episode is still a little better than average by the standards of "good television." The Columbus Day and JFK Hat episodes of The Sopranos are clearly and objectively worse, and that's an awesome series it its own right.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
bostonfred
Footballguy
Fly might have some bad moments, but none of them are as bad as Ted running and breaking his neck. Wtf. Such a weird way to resolve that plot line. But whatever, I guess it kind of fits. Maybe Marie going into houses and pretending to be different people? I guess that one sort of fits her storyline too. It's part of her character arc. Junior repeatedly yelling at his parents that he's not going to do X until somebody tells him what's going on? Meh. It's just Junior being Junior. But if you want the real clunker of the entire series - and there were a lot of dicey moments I haven't even started to list - then it's got to be Skyler singing happy birthday mr. president to ted while the entire company acts like it's the awesomest and least awkward thing they've ever seen a pregnant employee do for the boss who wants to commit adultery with her. That was so ####### stupid it almost made me quit the show the first time I watched it. Glad I didn't.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Marie's kleptomania coming back was pretty random, but I saw it as her acting out as a result of how mean Hank was to her when he was going through rehab, and it also got Tim Roberts involved, which led to Hank helping out with the Gale murder and him getting re-motivated to catch Heisenberg. It was a means to an end.
Skyler singing to Ted was kind of strange.
Skyler singing to Ted was kind of strange.
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The Hank
Footballguy
Fly is one of my favorite episodes.
You learn alot about what's going on in Walt's head in that episode, especially his deep down thoughts when he gets drugged by Jesse about "being a fly on the wall" and witnessing Jane dying (he was about to say something/apologize about it until Jesse got the fly).
pollardsvision
Footballguy
So, who's excited for Gilligan's certain-to-be groundbreaking CBS cop procedural?
The Hank
Footballguy
Yes. Very excited.
I'd watch Gilligan direct pretty much anything on merit now.
Rove!
Footballguy
Skyler singing to Ted was in line with the fact that she always had repressed attrcation to him because Walt was such milquetoast. Although Ted was creepy he paid her the kind of attention she craved. Skyler was kind of impulsive...it just exemplifies some of Walt's humiliation due to Skyler's domineering...
