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[Sarnoff]

I think the information about Grey Matter was the missing piece in my hesitance to get behind Walt's actions. I'm on board now with how he's been operating.

 

[mad sweeney]

is it believable that mike would be that sloppy when restraining Walt? Weak writing IMO in an otherwise solid episode

Yeah, I can't believe mike didn't anticipate Walter creating a welding torch and risk massive burns and electrocution to get free. He is a senior citizen though, so give grandpa a break.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

is it believable that mike would be that sloppy when restraining Walt? Weak writing IMO in an otherwise solid episode

Would be sloppy writing except they said earlier in the episode that even a professional eventually makes a mistake.

Good catch

In mikes defense he DOES have a lot on his mind right now

 

[Ministry of Pain]

From the all time high last week with the great train heist to one of the dumbest last 5 minutes of this show ever.

Seriously? A plastic handcuff with a chemist who has a propensity to wiggle out of situations? Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight, how come Jesse and Mike don't just kill Walter? It would be perfect, Skyler would never miss him.

The whole story of why he wouldn't cash in for $5m and they all go their separate ways...thru 4 seasons you kind of were rooting for Walt and you could understand what pushed him...but now he is like the Green Goblin in Spiderman, he's possessed, he's outta control, he wants to "Build an Empire"

But the end of that show...Mike suddenly has to run an errand and leaves Walt alone with the meth? No show is perfect but I found the episode tonight to be really dumb at the end. he's a freakin chemistry teacher, Heisenberg is an imagination. But he is like a wild animal that has killed now and has a taste for blood.

2 more weeks to be held hostage for another 6-8 months, great.

 

[Hector Salamanca]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight

DID YOU MISS THE FLASH-FORWARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, SIMPLETON???

 

[Abraham]

Jessie is going to kill Walt. Book it.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

From the all time high last week with the great train heist to one of the dumbest last 5 minutes of this show ever.

Seriously? A plastic handcuff with a chemist who has a propensity to wiggle out of situations? Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight, how come Jesse and Mike don't just kill Walter? It would be perfect, Skyler would never miss him.

The whole story of why he wouldn't cash in for $5m and they all go their separate ways...thru 4 seasons you kind of were rooting for Walt and you could understand what pushed him...but now he is like the Green Goblin in Spiderman, he's possessed, he's outta control, he wants to "Build an Empire"

But the end of that show...Mike suddenly has to run an errand and leaves Walt alone with the meth? No show is perfect but I found the episode tonight to be really dumb at the end. he's a freakin chemistry teacher, Heisenberg is an imagination. But he is like a wild animal that has killed now and has a taste for blood.

2 more weeks to be held hostage for another 6-8 months, great.

Why do you care?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight

DID YOU MISS THE FLASH-FORWARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, SIMPLETON???

Are we talking about Denny's? I assume we won't get to that until the end of the 2nd season 5.

The monologue by him to Jesse tonight which actually for once seemed real and not staged or set up to cover his weasel ###. It just seems so sad that he spent his whole life reliving that mistake to sell out in the company because basically the other 2 fell in love and he couldn't handle it. He had $5m gifted to him tonight and he turned it down. He wanted to double it by cooking some of it, that was an offer on the table in the show.

He really believes he is Heisenberg and I guess he is but that whole thing is just mantra. He's a 51 year old chemistry teacher who had his wife cheat on him a couple times and he also was/is/could be suffering from cancer which has impaired his judgment. He is not capable truly of running a big time crime operation. I realize technically he is right now but it's a joke. He could be blown away or caught by the Feds at any moment. It's a miracle he has made it this far.

 

[None_More_Black]

I think Mike in large doses gets tiresome. The "I checked him out", been around the block routine gets old after awhile. The Mike, Jesse, Walt dynamic is getting a little stale. Need some interesting characters to break it up.

 

[Apple Jack]

Jessie is going to kill Walt. Book it.

Had the same thought at the whistling scene.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

From the all time high last week with the great train heist to one of the dumbest last 5 minutes of this show ever.

Seriously? A plastic handcuff with a chemist who has a propensity to wiggle out of situations? Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight, how come Jesse and Mike don't just kill Walter? It would be perfect, Skyler would never miss him.

The whole story of why he wouldn't cash in for $5m and they all go their separate ways...thru 4 seasons you kind of were rooting for Walt and you could understand what pushed him...but now he is like the Green Goblin in Spiderman, he's possessed, he's outta control, he wants to "Build an Empire"

But the end of that show...Mike suddenly has to run an errand and leaves Walt alone with the meth? No show is perfect but I found the episode tonight to be really dumb at the end. he's a freakin chemistry teacher, Heisenberg is an imagination. But he is like a wild animal that has killed now and has a taste for blood.

2 more weeks to be held hostage for another 6-8 months, great.

Why do you care?

Last 5-10 minutes of the show tonight, was that good stuff to you? Seemed very forced and a lot of characters suddenly out of character. Jesse was all out, suddenly he is begging Mike to listen to Walt...I didn't care for it, but that said last week was perhaps the greatest 60 minutes of television I have ever watched. I was cheering and cussing when that train was stopped the entire time. I loved it, one of the best shows ever...jesse having to duck under the train onto the train tracks, just awesome.Of course I love the show, wouldn't post if it didn't thrill me, just don't like the way things ended tonight and I want to see Walter get his ### kicked again. Walt also is getting arrogant and cocky almost threatening folks to try and kill him.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Jessie is going to kill Walt. Book it.

Had the same thought at the whistling scene.

Agree, and eventually he is going to find out or figure out everything Walter has done to him.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think Mike in large doses gets tiresome. The "I checked him out", been around the block routine gets old after awhile. The Mike, Jesse, Walt dynamic is getting a little stale. Need some interesting characters to break it up.

Fair.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

 

[mad sweeney]

From the all time high last week with the great train heist to one of the dumbest last 5 minutes of this show ever. Seriously? A plastic handcuff with a chemist who has a propensity to wiggle out of situations? Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight, how come Jesse and Mike don't just kill Walter? It would be perfect, Skyler would never miss him. The whole story of why he wouldn't cash in for $5m and they all go their separate ways...thru 4 seasons you kind of were rooting for Walt and you could understand what pushed him...but now he is like the Green Goblin in Spiderman, he's possessed, he's outta control, he wants to "Build an Empire"But the end of that show...Mike suddenly has to run an errand and leaves Walt alone with the meth? No show is perfect but I found the episode tonight to be really dumb at the end. he's a freakin chemistry teacher, Heisenberg is an imagination. But he is like a wild animal that has killed now and has a taste for blood. 2 more weeks to be held hostage for another 6-8 months, great.

It wasn't an errand. It was throwing the DEA off his back long enough to do the deal.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

From the all time high last week with the great train heist to one of the dumbest last 5 minutes of this show ever.

Seriously? A plastic handcuff with a chemist who has a propensity to wiggle out of situations? Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight, how come Jesse and Mike don't just kill Walter? It would be perfect, Skyler would never miss him.

The whole story of why he wouldn't cash in for $5m and they all go their separate ways...thru 4 seasons you kind of were rooting for Walt and you could understand what pushed him...but now he is like the Green Goblin in Spiderman, he's possessed, he's outta control, he wants to "Build an Empire"

But the end of that show...Mike suddenly has to run an errand and leaves Walt alone with the meth? No show is perfect but I found the episode tonight to be really dumb at the end. he's a freakin chemistry teacher, Heisenberg is an imagination. But he is like a wild animal that has killed now and has a taste for blood.

2 more weeks to be held hostage for another 6-8 months, great.

Why do you care?

Last 5-10 minutes of the show tonight, was that good stuff to you? Seemed very forced and a lot of characters suddenly out of character. Jesse was all out, suddenly he is begging Mike to listen to Walt...I didn't care for it, but that said last week was perhaps the greatest 60 minutes of television I have ever watched. I was cheering and cussing when that train was stopped the entire time. I loved it, one of the best shows ever...jesse having to duck under the train onto the train tracks, just awesome.Of course I love the show, wouldn't post if it didn't thrill me, just don't like the way things ended tonight and I want to see Walter get his ### kicked again. Walt also is getting arrogant and cocky almost threatening folks to try and kill him.

yes, i liked the whole show, even the last 5 minutes. If things go too slow people complain...if things go too fast people say its rushed. I like the pace as its setting things up for the last 8 weeks next summer. I think its fascinating to watch walts self destructing downfall...the fact that he was just a sick science teacher and now hes gone off the deep end is whats makes that awesome. Him whistling while gowning up right after he said how upset he was over the kid getting shot shows us how far gone he really is.

 

[Marvin]

Yo... What ever happened to truth in advertising

He killed.

one of the best dinner scenes in tv history haha

 

[Apple Jack]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

The look on Jesse's face as he is trying to really enjoy that glass of water was priceless.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

You're right but why? Why does he think this way? It's not sustainable.

 

[Epic Problem]

The Dark Side of Netflix

 

[Abraham]

I thought it was a really good episode. It changed the flow by showing some different motivations of behavior. And the tension is building. We are now less then 10 episodes from Walt having hair and a machine gun.

 

[Abraham]

"like yeah, I really want some lasagna!"

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

You dont get it. He was conning jesse , just like he did about the GF , saying things in such a way that jesse starts thinking and ends up doing what walt wanted him to do. Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;

 

[Sarnoff]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

Looked to me like Skyler had an oversized goblet for her wine. That was no ordinary wine glass. Think looked just a touch smaller than a goldfish bowl.Jesse was great just chugging the water after the affair line. Surprised it didn't start dribbling out of the corners of his mouth, he really tilted that thing back.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

Looked to me like Skyler had an oversized goblet for her wine. That was no ordinary wine glass. Think looked just a touch smaller than a goldfish bowl.Jesse was great just chugging the water after the affair line. Surprised it didn't start dribbling out of the corners of his mouth, he really tilted that thing back.

my GF has a glass that big...i cringe when she says shes just having a glass or 2 of wine haha

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

You're right but why? Why does he think this way? It's not sustainable.

It's just the way he's wired. People aren't always logical. Maybe he's overcompensating for a lifetime of being a cowardly wallflower. Maybe he's just an egotistical ####### and finally broke out of his shell. The why doesn't really concern me at this point in the show. They spent the first few seasons dealing with the why. He is what he is and he's not changing back for the better. If anything, he's getting a lot worse.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to.

I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

You dont get it. He was conning jesse , just like he did about the GF , saying things in such a way that jesse starts thinking and ends up doing what walt wanted him to do. Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;

Shtick? Walt is definitely manipulating Jesse but while I don't know exactly how much Grey Matter is worth, they've made it very clear it's worth a LOT of money.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

You're right but why? Why does he think this way? It's not sustainable.

ya you`re right...nobody has ever gotten drunk with power before you are just looking for reasons to not like this show and its kinda sad to watch you pick things apart and you`re not even close with your criticisms

 

[Raider Nation]

Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;

This is the first time a "billion" has been mentioned re: Grey Matter, but they certainly have millions at least.From Walt's contentious lunch with Gretchen:

Walt, alone with Gretchen, pleads with her not to reveal the truth but won't explain any of his actions. Waving her checkbook around won't make him forget how she and Elliott "cut me out" and made millions off his research, Walt says. Gretchen reminds Walt that he was the one who left her without explanation, abandoning both her and Elliott. "Little rich girl, just adding to your millions," Walt retorts.

"I feel so sorry for you, Walt," Gretchen finally says.

"F___ you," he responds.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If anything, he's getting a lot worse.

For sure

 

[Apple Jack]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

Looked to me like Skyler had an oversized goblet for her wine. That was no ordinary wine glass. Think looked just a touch smaller than a goldfish bowl.Jesse was great just chugging the water after the affair line. Surprised it didn't start dribbling out of the corners of his mouth, he really tilted that thing back.

It was a glass made for big reds, not whites. You're not supposed to fill it.Yeah this show hasn't had much awkward tension, so we were do. And not knowing where any one of the three might take it was great.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to.

I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

You dont get it. He was conning jesse , just like he did about the GF , saying things in such a way that jesse starts thinking and ends up doing what walt wanted him to do. Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;

Shtick? Walt is definitely manipulating Jesse but while I don't know exactly how much Grey Matter is worth, they've made it very clear it's worth a LOT of money.

I didnt say there wasnt a company trhat made a lot of money, i said im sure walt had nothing to do with that company...ever.

He actually did, bro. It's been covered a bunch, including flashbacks.

yes you are right, forgot all about that...doh

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

You dont get it. He was conning jesse , just like he did about the GF , saying things in such a way that jesse starts thinking and ends up doing what walt wanted him to do. Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;

The difference tonight is Walt was not playing a game. That is the reason, he resents Gray Matter after all these years. Thats's the rub. Jesse is asking him are we in the meth business or the money business? As an audience member I was always on board because I thought they were simply in it for the money but pissing on $5m the way Walt did tonight...Jesse was the audience talking to Walt tonight, trying to talk some sense into him, the lights are on and no one is home now. Just take the money and end it...there just is no reason. Jesse said "Did you ever think we would have $5m?" he even recites the original amount Walter wanted or needed.

 

[Sarnoff]

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

You're right but why? Why does he think this way? It's not sustainable.

It's just the way he's wired. People aren't always logical. Maybe he's overcompensating for a lifetime of being a cowardly wallflower. Maybe he's just an egotistical ####### and finally broke out of his shell. The why doesn't really concern me at this point in the show. They spent the first few seasons dealing with the why. He is what he is and he's not changing back for the better. If anything, he's getting a lot worse.

Like I said before, at the beginning of the season I didn't "get" why Walt wouldn't take a clean break when the opportunity presented itself. Especially after he seemed able to accept that he might have to by calling the vacuum cleaner repair man. But after the discussion with Jesse, Walt's actions make sense. The guy has been obsessing ("I check the value of the company every week") for a decade, or more, about his $700 million share of Grey Matter (2.1b split 3 ways). He feels totally screwed about the road not taken and he's going to go full Ahab until he's "square" with what life owes him, which, of course, will never feel like enough.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

You're right but why? Why does he think this way? It's not sustainable.

ya you`re right...nobody has ever gotten drunk with power before you are just looking for reasons to not like this show and its kinda sad to watch you pick things apart and you`re not even close with your criticisms

You didn't even know about the back story with Grey Matter...RN had to explain it and then you criticize me, just making sure I got this straight.

 

[None_More_Black]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

Looked to me like Skyler had an oversized goblet for her wine. That was no ordinary wine glass. Think looked just a touch smaller than a goldfish bowl.Jesse was great just chugging the water after the affair line. Surprised it didn't start dribbling out of the corners of his mouth, he really tilted that thing back.

It was a glass made for big reds, not whites. You're not supposed to fill it.Yeah this show hasn't had much awkward tension, so we were do. And not knowing where any one of the three might take it was great.

I think it is another scene to demonstrate the irony that Jesse has somehow now become the sane one.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

[Like I said before, at the beginning of the season I didn't "get" why Walt wouldn't take a clean break when the opportunity presented itself. Especially after he seemed able to accept that he might have to by calling the vacuum cleaner repair man. But after the discussion with Jesse, Walt's actions make sense. The guy has been obsessing ("I check the value of the company every week") for a decade, or more, about his $700 million share of Grey Matter (2.1b split 3 ways). He feels totally screwed about the road not taken and he's going to go full Ahab until he's "square" with what life owes him, which, of course, will never feel like enough.

That's pretty good but also really sad on Walt's part. I guess he doesn't have much to live for but Skyler wanting to end their marriage should be a blessing, somehow its not. You have it exactly right, I guess just most of us would likely opt for the $5m and getting out pretty much free and clear.

 

[Apple Jack]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

Looked to me like Skyler had an oversized goblet for her wine. That was no ordinary wine glass. Think looked just a touch smaller than a goldfish bowl.Jesse was great just chugging the water after the affair line. Surprised it didn't start dribbling out of the corners of his mouth, he really tilted that thing back.

It was a glass made for big reds, not whites. You're not supposed to fill it.Yeah this show hasn't had much awkward tension, so we were do. And not knowing where any one of the three might take it was great.

I think it is another scene to demonstrate the irony that Jesse has somehow now become the sane one.

Maybe, but Jesse's been the sane one since like season two though.

 

[Abraham]

It's normal sociopath behavior. Walt doesn't just want to commit the crime, he wants to be acknowledged. Be has foreseen everything important (work and famoly) to build his empire. He isn't doing it in a vacuum. Like many sociopaths he wants to be caught so everyone can see what he did. "#### the fame give me the money, I'm a simple man" does not apply to Walt.

 

[mad sweeney]

Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?

Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.

It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to. I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.

He's not after the money. He's no longer pretending this is a 9-5 type job and hasn't since last season. 5 million or 50 million, I think it would make little difference. He wants to be a badass drug kingpin and rule the world. He pretty much said as much to Jesse at dinner.

You're right but why? Why does he think this way? It's not sustainable.

He pretty much said why to Jesse.

 

[None_More_Black]

That dinner scene had to be fun to shoot.

Looked to me like Skyler had an oversized goblet for her wine. That was no ordinary wine glass. Think looked just a touch smaller than a goldfish bowl.Jesse was great just chugging the water after the affair line. Surprised it didn't start dribbling out of the corners of his mouth, he really tilted that thing back.

It was a glass made for big reds, not whites. You're not supposed to fill it.Yeah this show hasn't had much awkward tension, so we were do. And not knowing where any one of the three might take it was great.

I think it is another scene to demonstrate the irony that Jesse has somehow now become the sane one.

Maybe, but Jesse's been the sane one since like season two though.

I agree, that's why I said another. It's a reoccurring theme. I think they need to break that up a bit. We know Walt's a bad guy now.

 

[Abraham]

Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?

 

[None_More_Black]

Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?

I think the show's main thesis is that we all have a villain in us if given the right circumstances. Those circumstances may be everyday modern life.

 

[Raider Nation]

Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?

I think the show's main thesis is that we all have a villain in us if given the right circumstances. Those circumstances may be everyday modern life.

It's an interesting question though. Chris Moltisanti came to mind right away. He fits the sap-turned-villain label, though I'm not sure if sympathetic ever applied. And he was always basically a crook, so yeah... never mind.I'll keep working on it.

 

[Epic Problem]

Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?

I think the show's main thesis is that we all have a villain in us if given the right circumstances. Those circumstances may be everyday modern life.

It's an interesting question though. Chris Moltisanti came to mind right away. He fits the sap-turned-villain label, though I'm not sure if sympathetic ever applied. And he was always basically a crook, so yeah... never mind.I'll keep working on it.

Ben Linus

 

[Epic Problem]

Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?

I think the show's main thesis is that we all have a villain in us if given the right circumstances. Those circumstances may be everyday modern life.

It's an interesting question though. Chris Moltisanti came to mind right away. He fits the sap-turned-villain label, though I'm not sure if sympathetic ever applied. And he was always basically a crook, so yeah... never mind.I'll keep working on it.

Ben Linus

Although always a villain, he was introduced as portraying a sap, wasn't he?

 

[None_More_Black]

Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?

I think the show's main thesis is that we all have a villain in us if given the right circumstances. Those circumstances may be everyday modern life.

It's an interesting question though. Chris Moltisanti came to mind right away. He fits the sap-turned-villain label, though I'm not sure if sympathetic ever applied. And he was always basically a crook, so yeah... never mind.I'll keep working on it.

Ben Linus

Crime and Punishment.