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Breaking Bad on AMC (2 Viewers)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Although I agree, it's not something that can be stated as fact. Two completely different shows... almost impossible to fairly compare them.
jamny
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Brady Bunch vs. 60 Minutes
Whatcha got?
Whatcha got?
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
You guys are all wrong. Mad Men is better...just slightly.
If we were using a scale of 1-100:
Mad Men 97
Breaking Bad 95
If we were using a scale of 1-100:
Mad Men 97
Breaking Bad 95
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
I quit Mad Men after a season and a half. I might revisit it, but it can't hold a candle to BB IMO. Not even in the same ballpark.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Seems scientific enough.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Did you add a point for Joan's breasts and deduct a point for Walt Jr?
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I happen to like Walt Jr. I believe his character adds an important dynamic to the show. He's a key cog in the narrative. Without Walt Jr there would be a gaping hole in the overall quality of the show.
Just kidding.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Just finished all 4 seasons. Amazing ####### show. My favorite scenes...
Walt exploding tucos office
I ####ed ted
Get out of my town
When walt ran over the gang bangers
Gus poisoning the cartel
And of course walt killing gus
Probably a ton of others im forgetting
I hope AMC shows the first half of season 5 again
Walt exploding tucos office
I ####ed ted
Get out of my town
When walt ran over the gang bangers
Gus poisoning the cartel
And of course walt killing gus
Probably a ton of others im forgetting
I hope AMC shows the first half of season 5 again
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
megashare.info has all of S5 I think
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
They're both pretty even for me. 
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Mad Men if you are a girl or a girly man
BB otherwise
BB otherwise
This. I prefer Mad Men when it's on and I prefer Breaking Bad when it's on.They're both pretty even for me.
3C's
Footballguy
I watched the first 8 episodes of season 1 of MM...in no hurry to watch the next.
pantherclub
Footballguy
In music terms I would say MM is like The grateful dead and Breaking bad is like Phish.
Mad men is more textured, flowing laid back and mellow. Like the Grateful dead each seem to have lost steam at the end. Both not really sure to tie things up and end it.
Phish and Breaking bad are more in your face, speed, taking wicked chances and peaking as they mature.
Both are good shows. Really good shows but I think Mad Men started losing it season 4. Season 2 and 3 were simply masterful with the storylines and dialogue. This season particularly is like the writers are unsure of the direction of the show.
Mad men is more textured, flowing laid back and mellow. Like the Grateful dead each seem to have lost steam at the end. Both not really sure to tie things up and end it.
Phish and Breaking bad are more in your face, speed, taking wicked chances and peaking as they mature.
Both are good shows. Really good shows but I think Mad Men started losing it season 4. Season 2 and 3 were simply masterful with the storylines and dialogue. This season particularly is like the writers are unsure of the direction of the show.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't see a ton of comparing (though it's possible). Some contrasting, but mostly people just stating their preference.
It seems reasonable that most are going to have a fairly strong preference for one over the other. Of course, neither opinion can be stated as a fact.
Ash
Footballguy
As long as it's real and dramatic it will be fine. Anything but the lame wannabe "artistic" copout The Sopranos finished with.ETA: I think it would be kind of fitting with the direction the show has taken if Jesse dies and Walt lives. Would be cool if the final scene was Walt walking through Home Depot picking up his stock of supplies in Seattle or somewhere.
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Abraham
Footballguy
jesse never bought a tub nor did he buy acid originally. The tubs weren't big enough and Walt took that acid from the school.
bentley
Footballguy
Except for the fact that those bands are absolutely overwrought suckfests enjoyed only by dopeheads and the self-important while BB and Mad Men are great tv.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I begged my kid brother, who has very similar tastes to mine, to watch this. He was dead set on canceling Netflix streaming, but I pleaded with him not to do so until he watched this show. A couple of weeks ago, he told me he watched season 1 through the episode where (spoiler alert) Walt kills Crazy 8 in the basement and "it didn't grab [him]." He canceled Netflix the next day.
I can only assume that either a) He was so dead set on saving $9 a month that he tried NOT to like it (this wouldn't be beyond him, he's remarkably frugal and stubborn) or b) He didn't want to commit the time to the series with his new girlfriend in tow. He's had a couple of bad breakups and I think he's bound and determined to make this relationship work, no matter the cost.
I have to assume it's one of these two things because to take him at his word that he didn't really like it that much would mean I'd have to disown him as family.
Ash
Footballguy
Yeah, Jesse decided to use the bath. Turned out fine.jesse never bought a tub nor did he buy acid originally. The tubs weren't big enough and Walt took that acid from the school.
offdee
Footballguy
Ah yes, good point. Still think it would be pretty symbolic....jesse never bought a tub nor did he buy acid originally. The tubs weren't big enough and Walt took that acid from the school.
They don't actually show it, but strongly infer that Walt kills Jesse. Walt is now truly alone, on the run and running out of options...just struggling to get through the next day. Show him walking through HD in his black hat just trying to figure out what to do...he gets to the tub section of HD, sees those blue ones that Jesse was considering, looks at the label and realizes they aren't the material that can withstand acid. It hits Walt that he is now Jesse when they first met...an "addict" who is alone, lonely and ashamed just waiting to die. Full circle.
Would be a pretty powerful final scene...all done in silence only relying on Cranston's facial expressions and actions which he is so brilliant at.
Abraham
Footballguy
Not bad, but full-circle would be Hank being strong and Walt being weak. I've said 100 times (mostly because it's easy to forget) that all of this came about not just because of the cancer but also because Hank was the family badass and Walt was the weakling, and he didn't want to be the weakling anymore. Aside from the money, Walt no doubt chose this path because it is in direct competition with Hank's interests. He can feel superior to Hank because Hank can't catch him. The arc started with Walt weak and feeble and facing an uncertain (and possibly short) future. OVer time, Walt became strong and Hank became weak (crying in the shower because of the mental aspect, sitting in a wheelchair because of the physical aspect) and now they are crossing paths coming back the other way. The transition wasn't overt - keep in mind that Walt was ultimately able to escape the wrath of Tuco because Hank showed up. Over time Walt has learned that Hank isn't a simpleton but rather a worthy adversary - he had Mike's guys killed all at once so that Hank couldn't get to any of them to protect them.Ah yes, good point. Still think it would be pretty symbolic....jesse never bought a tub nor did he buy acid originally. The tubs weren't big enough and Walt took that acid from the school.
They don't actually show it, but strongly infer that Walt kills Jesse. Walt is now truly alone, on the run and running out of options...just struggling to get through the next day. Show him walking through HD in his black hat just trying to figure out what to do...he gets to the tub section of HD, sees those blue ones that Jesse was considering, looks at the label and realizes they aren't the material that can withstand acid. It hits Walt that he is now Jesse when they first met...an "addict" who is alone, lonely and ashamed just waiting to die. Full circle.
Would be a pretty powerful final scene...all done in silence only relying on Cranston's facial expressions and actions which he is so brilliant at.
So while the Jesse / Walt dynamic will have to be answered, I think the show has ALWAYS been about the dynamic between Walt and Hank. The competition, the pride, the mutual respect, the mutual loathing, the shared family love. Walt has gotten by on brains and guile while Hank has gotten by on pure braun...until now, when Walt will need the physical strength (the gun in the parking lot) and Hank is starting to use his brain (realizing the book on the toilet is WAlt, realizing "he was right under my nose" with Gus). That has to be resolved or it will be very unfulfilling. Given the choice, I'd rather see Jesse pack his bags and leave town in Episode 9 then have Walt/Hank left hanging at episode 16.
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packersfan
Footballguy
I can't see Walt killing Jesse. He's done a lot of highly questionable things but I think he always has fallen back on Jesse being a son to him, more so than Walt Jr. in many ways. As far gone as Walt may be morally and as able as he always has been to justify his actions I'm not sure he could bring himself to kill Jesse.
offdee
Footballguy
Thought the bolded below was interesting (from Wikipedia)... Development and production[edit]In July 2011, series creator Vince Gilligan indicated that he intended to conclude Breaking Bad with the fifth season.[34] In early August 2011, negotiations began over a deal regarding the fifth and possibly final season between the network AMC and Sony Pictures Television, the production company of the series. AMC proposed a shortened fifth season (six to eight episodes, instead of 13) to cut costs, but the producers declined. Sony then approached other cable networks about possibly picking up the show if a deal could not be made.[35] On August 14, 2011, a deal was made where AMC renewed the series for a final 16 episodes.[5] Filming began for the season on March 26, 2012.[36] Filming for the second half of the season began on December 7, 2012, during which AMC sent the cast and crew cupcakes decorated with characters and props used throughout the show's run.[37][38]
Dean Norris, who plays Hank Schrader, had asked Gilligan to kill off his character during the first half of the season, however, Gilligan declined his request.
Dean Norris, who plays Hank Schrader, had asked Gilligan to kill off his character during the first half of the season, however, Gilligan declined his request.
Abraham
Footballguy
Yup. The only person Jesse killed was Gale. Walt has always been the guy pulling the trigger throughout. He even ran over the drug dealers to keep Jesse from killing them.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Although I agree that it's a hilariously bad analogy, I'm not sure that calling something "self-important" or "overwrought" distinguishes it from Mad Men. Has any TV show in history had its head up its own ### further than Mad Men?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What it Skylar is enjoying Walt being home and she kills Jesse?
I think Skylar in some way gets Walt out of all of this. if those two are on the same page the White's will be fine
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Several HBO shows.
Six Feet Under (which I liked). In Treatment. Whatever the one was where the old people had gross sex.
17seconds
root of all aliai
I think BB is ending at the right time.
S5 was good but the weakest of the series. The new plot lines aren't as compelling as when Walt was establishing himself. It's good that they are wrapping it up. If it went into more seasons it would lose a ton of it's legacy.
S5 was good but the weakest of the series. The new plot lines aren't as compelling as when Walt was establishing himself. It's good that they are wrapping it up. If it went into more seasons it would lose a ton of it's legacy.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
With Simon headed off to Swansea for his dad's new gig, it doesn't look good for him and Carly. I just hope Neil and Jay don't drive Briefcase batty before University.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Ned Ryerson
Footballguy
I think Mad Men is objectively "better", but if I had to recommend BB or MM to a friend based on which was more enjoyable, I would recommend BB.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Not a fan of Mad Men, but The Newsroom is about 10 times worse on that front. (I could probably throw in a couple of other Sorkin shows as well.)
