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Breaking Bad on AMC (1 Viewer)

fruity pebbles said:
comfortably numb said:
So...

All over. What was your favorite scene?

I think I still loved the "I am the one who knocks" scene.
The cousins coming after Hank in the parking lot. I've watched that seen a dozen times.
This. To me, that is when the show went from "man, this is pretty good television" to "this is one of the best shows of all time, I hope they don't mess it up."

 
The scene where Walt gets the ricin and stops where his living room was to reflect (With Hank etc) was amazing as well. That scene hits so hard the second time watching the finale.
Yup. The flashback to Hank in the living room was very sad.
That was a very powerful scene.

So sad.

Hank saying easy money....maybe you can come along for ride, get some excitement in your life.
Yep. That and just seeing him smile and laugh as well.

 
One thing I havent seen commented on anywhere: Walt has just killed everyone in his family (literal, figurative) and Todd still looks out the window and starts his next sentence with respect, "Mr. White..." before getting choked out. Had me :lmao:
Todd hadn't yet realized Walt was responsible. The gun was inside the trunk and not visible from the window, so Todd hadn't yet put it together that Walt brought it in.
baloney, respectfully.

 
I felt a little let down by this final season. Show certainly peaked in season 4, IMO. I preferred Jessie when he wasn't the tortured soul and a shell of his former self. Also the Nazis as the "bad guys" didn't come close to the complex character Gus was.

 
I felt a little let down by this final season. Show certainly peaked in season 4, IMO. I preferred Jessie when he wasn't the tortured soul and a shell of his former self. Also the Nazis as the "bad guys" didn't come close to the complex character Gus was.
Probably true up until episode 13 and 14 of season 5, which were 2 of the best in the entire series.

 
Limp Ditka said:
It's not natural to wonder/speculate if the money got to the family?It's not natural to wonder/speculate if Skyler handing over the location of Honk and Gommy to the DEA gets her off the hook?

It's not natural to wonder/speculate what happened to Brock?
I think my only real gripe with the ending is that we've always seen Walt's grand plans, and then, how they backfire on him. The ending felt a bit off in that it seems like everything wrapped up nice for Walt, and he "won", even "beat cancer" and went out on his own terms... and, based on watching how the show's been in the past, I'm still left waiting for the other shoe to drop.
I half expected Walt to just get shot in the head by the Neo-Nazis without a chance to set off his machine gun.
Or that the bullets don't make it through the rebar enforced concrete. Machine gun goes off for 30 seconds and everyone is still standing around looking at Walt.
The problem with that ending is that it would have gratified us in the moment ("Ha, I never saw that coming!") but would have ultimately been unsatisfying ("I watched for five years and he ended up dead and buried in a nazi compound...?")

 
One of the best scenes was of course when Heisenberg blew up Tuco's place with the fake meth. The guy that played Tuco was pretty awesome.

 
One thing I havent seen commented on anywhere: Walt has just killed everyone in his family (literal, figurative) and Todd still looks out the window and starts his next sentence with respect, "Mr. White..." before getting choked out. Had me :lmao:
Yeah, I was wondering where he was going with that. I wasn't sure if Todd quite knew that it was Walt that did all of that.

 
pollardsvision said:
Half measures. I think many of my favorite scenes involve Mike.
Easily mine as well. But I think his final scene with Skyler is a close second.

"If I have to hear you say one more time that you did it for.."

"I did it for me."

 
One thing I havent seen commented on anywhere: Walt has just killed everyone in his family (literal, figurative) and Todd still looks out the window and starts his next sentence with respect, "Mr. White..." before getting choked out. Had me :lmao:
Yeah, I was wondering where he was going with that. I wasn't sure if Todd quite knew that it was Walt that did all of that.
Todd had no clue what just happened. He was looking for the shooters and telling "Mr. White" he didn't see where they were.

 
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Yeah, if a ton of bullets start getting fired into a house, I don't think most people would suspect a remote control machine gun operated by keychain. Todd thought somebody out there was shooting.

 
One of the best scenes was of course when Heisenberg blew up Tuco's place with the fake meth. The guy that played Tuco was pretty awesome.
This one came to mind right away for me. I was enjoying the show up until that point, but that was the scene that really hooked me in.

Also found it interesting that Tuco was supposed to have a longer run on the show, but Raymond Cruz asked to be killed off because it was hard for him to play a character that crazy. He did a great job with it though.

 
TheIronSheik said:
OK, serious question:

When the cops get there, what do they think happened? No way they took a look around and go, "Welp. I guess this all explains everything."
You are trying very, very hard. Please stop.
:confused:

I'm being serious. Hence the reason I said "Serious question." Wouldn't they suspect that Jessie is still out there?
Which cops would be on the lookout for Jesse?

 
I can't wait to see the number of sales for Baby Blue at amazon and iTunes this week. Everyone and their mother who didn't have that song already is gonna want to have it.

 
Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes? Even if they report it to the police, no one will claim the money and eventually the charity gets it. Then they give Flynn personal funds. I imagine it could be done.
Seriously? Drug money is pretty much automatically confiscated.

Edit: Also, it's not going to fly to have an "anonymous donor" mysteriously drop $9 million in cash on your front door. The last couple of seasons have made it abundantly and pretty realistically clear that it's really hard to process cash.
They can spend the cash or burn it for that matter. The point is that walt gave them 9 mil and they will set up a trust for jr in that amount

 
TheIronSheik said:
OK, serious question:

When the cops get there, what do they think happened? No way they took a look around and go, "Welp. I guess this all explains everything."
You are trying very, very hard. Please stop.
:confused:

I'm being serious. Hence the reason I said "Serious question." Wouldn't they suspect that Jessie is still out there?
Which cops would be on the lookout for Jesse?
The cops that showed up at the end. And I'm not saying Jessie, in particular. But if the cops show up to a spot where everyone is dead, seems like someone got away. I'm not saying anything bad about the ending. I'm just saying that I don't think Jessie would just be in the free and clear. I'm sure his prints are all over that place.

 
Limp Ditka said:
It's not natural to wonder/speculate if the money got to the family?It's not natural to wonder/speculate if Skyler handing over the location of Honk and Gommy to the DEA gets her off the hook?

It's not natural to wonder/speculate what happened to Brock?
I think my only real gripe with the ending is that we've always seen Walt's grand plans, and then, how they backfire on him. The ending felt a bit off in that it seems like everything wrapped up nice for Walt, and he "won", even "beat cancer" and went out on his own terms... and, based on watching how the show's been in the past, I'm still left waiting for the other shoe to drop.
It's definitely very odd that this show, of all shows, got a warm and fuzzy happy ending.

The freight train to hell ended with a redemption story for Walt and a feel-good story for Jesse.

Ozy was, I think, the sort of ending that most of us expected, and this was definitely a little different. For a long time, it didn't feel like this would all end with Hank as the only real White/Schrader family casualty, Jesse being free, and Walt going out a hero with $9 mill. likely still going to his kids.

If someone was disappointed and felt it was a bit of too tidy fan service, I could see it.

I don't know which finale I liked better, but certainly you could make the case that Vic Mackey and Strike Team met a more fitting fate than Walt. And maybe that Ryan had more courage in sending his freight train off the tracks than Gilligan did.

 
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I think Walt absolutely intended on dying in the line of fire by the gunfire he himself was gonna set off. The way he spoke several times, and the way he looked at Holly and Flynn for the last time, he knew he was gonna die that night. But once he saw what Jesse had gone through, he tackled him to protect him first before he set the gunfire off.
He knew he was going to die or go to jail. Either way, it's goodbye

 
If Walt blows himself up, Walt doesn't win. Winning would be to kill those guys himself. WaltWins has always been a driving force. The wild card in this is Jesse. If Walt dies, then he won't be able to hunt down Jesse if need be. c'mon....

 
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Anyone who has ever lived in a cold environment knows that there's no chance WW could have closed the door of the Volvo without all of the snow falling off the window.

 
I had a huge problem with the finale. it was the laser pointers. there is no way, NO WAY, that anyone, let alone 2 meth heads could hold a laser pointer that steady from that far a distance. try it some time, you'll see how impossible it is. its easy to do it fixed on a rifle because a rifle is bigger and you get more leverage, but 2 little laser pointers? NO WAY. the dots would've been all over the place and we should've seen Gretchen and Elliot's cats going bonkers over them during the scene.
Walt's not smart enough to think of way they can steady it? C'mon man

 
Don Quixote said:
Spartans Rule said:
RevDawg said:
Was the Jesse carpentry scene a dream or a flash forward?
I thought of it as a flash forward. I thought he looked older in that scene. I really don't know though.
I thought it was a dream rather than a flash forward. I thought his clothes got caught on something in that sequence, and then switched to his chain being caught to snap things back to reality. But I could be misremembering.
Gilligan said on Talking Bad that it was Jesse day-dreaming about happier times.

 
I don't think Walt had any intention of going to jail. He wanted to die. He just wanted to take all of his enemies with him.
I look at it a little differently. You describe it as an angry thing. I think he finally realized he ####ed up (as he told Skyler) and before he went out he wanted to erase everything he had ####ed up as much as possible. Kill everyone who may carry the business forward, let Jesse go back to his own life, siphon the money through Elliot and Gretchen like it had been earned if he had stayed with Grey Matter.

 
I had a huge problem with the finale. it was the laser pointers. there is no way, NO WAY, that anyone, let alone 2 meth heads could hold a laser pointer that steady from that far a distance. try it some time, you'll see how impossible it is. its easy to do it fixed on a rifle because a rifle is bigger and you get more leverage, but 2 little laser pointers? NO WAY. the dots would've been all over the place and we should've seen Gretchen and Elliot's cats going bonkers over them during the scene.
Walt's not smart enough to think of way they can steady it? C'mon man
:goodposting:

Do they really have to draw up every single scene for people?

 
I don't think Walt had any intention of going to jail. He wanted to die. He just wanted to take all of his enemies with him.
I look at it a little differently. You describe it as an angry thing. I think he finally realized he ####ed up (as he told Skyler) and before he went out he wanted to erase everything he had ####ed up as much as possible. Kill everyone who may carry the business forward, let Jesse go back to his own life, siphon the money through Elliot and Gretchen like it had been earned if he had stayed with Grey Matter.
I agree with that. I do think he wanted to clean the slate if you will. That meant taking care of Walt Jr., saying a proper goodbye to Skyler (and Holly) and getting rid of the blue (the monster he had created) and everyone associated with it.

 
Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes?
Anonymously giving the money away doesn't launder it any more than burning it in the fireplace does.

The point of laundering money is that you get to keep it.

Even if they report it to the police, no one will claim the money and eventually the charity gets it.
If they report it to the police, the police will keep it.

 
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I don't think Walt had any intention of going to jail. He wanted to die. He just wanted to take all of his enemies with him.
I look at it a little differently. You describe it as an angry thing. I think he finally realized he ####ed up (as he told Skyler) and before he went out he wanted to erase everything he had ####ed up as much as possible. Kill everyone who may carry the business forward, let Jesse go back to his own life, siphon the money through Elliot and Gretchen like it had been earned if he had stayed with Grey Matter.
I agree with that. I do think he wanted to clean the slate if you will. That meant taking care of Walt Jr., saying a proper goodbye to Skyler (and Holly) and getting rid of the blue (the monster he had created) and everyone associated with it.
Lydia was also a threat to Skyler. She wanted Todd to kill her. A bunch of Nazis end up dead, you don't think she'll freak and start killing off potential witnesses and threats again? Lydia had to die to keep the Whites safe...

 
Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes?
Anonymously giving the money away doesn't launder it any more than burning it in the fireplace does.

The point of laundering money is that you get to keep it.

Even if they report it to the police, no one will claim the money and eventually the charity gets it.
If they report it to the police, the police will keep it.
Like giving away your clothes and telling your wife the laundry is done.

 
Now why would he want to save Jesse? I think it's because he was done lying to himself and finally realized that everything was his fault, including even what Jesse had done to him.
Walt's fault? You mean it was to Walt's credit. Walt was the best thing that ever happened to Jesse. ;)

 
I had a huge problem with the finale. it was the laser pointers. there is no way, NO WAY, that anyone, let alone 2 meth heads could hold a laser pointer that steady from that far a distance. try it some time, you'll see how impossible it is. its easy to do it fixed on a rifle because a rifle is bigger and you get more leverage, but 2 little laser pointers? NO WAY. the dots would've been all over the place and we should've seen Gretchen and Elliot's cats going bonkers over them during the scene.
Walt's not smart enough to think of way they can steady it? C'mon man
:goodposting:

Do they really have to draw up every single scene for people?
I think the writers really dropped the ball in not showing which interstates Walt followed on his trip back to New Mexico. I mean, there are several viable routes.

 
I don't think Walt had any intention of going to jail. He wanted to die. He just wanted to take all of his enemies with him.
I look at it a little differently. You describe it as an angry thing. I think he finally realized he ####ed up (as he told Skyler) and before he went out he wanted to erase everything he had ####ed up as much as possible. Kill everyone who may carry the business forward, let Jesse go back to his own life, siphon the money through Elliot and Gretchen like it had been earned if he had stayed with Grey Matter.
I agree with that. I do think he wanted to clean the slate if you will. That meant taking care of Walt Jr., saying a proper goodbye to Skyler (and Holly) and getting rid of the blue (the monster he had created) and everyone associated with it.
Lydia was also a threat to Skyler. She wanted Todd to kill her. A bunch of Nazis end up dead, you don't think she'll freak and start killing off potential witnesses and threats again? Lydia had to die to keep the Whites safe...
True but Walt got the ricin before he found out Skyler had been threatened and told not to talk about Lydia. So I think he had every intention of killing her no matter what. Again, I think he wanted to kill the monster he created and that meant everyone connected to it had to go.

 
Wish list (not a nit, but things I was rooting for)

-- Walt to tell Jesse that Jesse was a good cook and had capabilities in a subtle way
That's probably the last thing Jesse would have wanted to hear. Walt may as well have told him once again that he purposely let Jane die.

 
TheIronSheik said:
OK, serious question:

When the cops get there, what do they think happened? No way they took a look around and go, "Welp. I guess this all explains everything."
You are trying very, very hard. Please stop.
:confused:

I'm being serious. Hence the reason I said "Serious question." Wouldn't they suspect that Jessie is still out there?
Which cops would be on the lookout for Jesse?
The cops that showed up at the end. And I'm not saying Jessie, in particular. But if the cops show up to a spot where everyone is dead, seems like someone got away. I'm not saying anything bad about the ending. I'm just saying that I don't think Jessie would just be in the free and clear. I'm sure his prints are all over that place.
Jesse wouldn't be totally free and clear, but I think everyone who knows the full extent of what he's done is dead. The cops will see him as a person of interest, but not someone worth a nationwide manhunt like Walt. As long as he disappears to some place far away from Albuquerque (and he almost certainly will) he should be OK.

 
I think it's pretty obvious that Walt made up his mind to kill everyone who had taken over his blue-meth empire. And that definitely includes Lydia.

 
I don't think Walt had any intention of going to jail. He wanted to die. He just wanted to take all of his enemies with him.
I look at it a little differently. You describe it as an angry thing. I think he finally realized he ####ed up (as he told Skyler) and before he went out he wanted to erase everything he had ####ed up as much as possible. Kill everyone who may carry the business forward, let Jesse go back to his own life, siphon the money through Elliot and Gretchen like it had been earned if he had stayed with Grey Matter.
I agree with that. I do think he wanted to clean the slate if you will. That meant taking care of Walt Jr., saying a proper goodbye to Skyler (and Holly) and getting rid of the blue (the monster he had created) and everyone associated with it.
Except if Jesse ever decides to get back in the business.

 

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