GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Reports are they are packing things up on the sideline. Game is over for at least tonight.
				
			I agree.The percentage of recovery if a shock needs to be administered is......very low. Just sayingNot so fast. It also means electrical current is still in the heart. Most of the time defibrillators won't even let you shock as there is no current in the heart.That's.......very bad if they actually needed to shockAED was administered on the field
What in God's name are you talking about? You can't be serious.Within reason - no one’s doing heart surgery in an ambulance.Zero medical background, but my understanding is that when you’re in an ambulance they can do anything they would need to do in a hospitalMy wife was just saying this to meYeah if he needed to be rushed to a hospital they wouldn’t be waiting for his mom, right?
But once his heart is beating & he’s intubated, he’s probably he considered “stable”.
I would rather be in person than watching from a TV.his poor family and his mom they pulled out of the stands
I probably shouldn't even post this. But, a little bit excessive reactions ... "It's wild how evil they are"? I get it, it's a very serious situation. I never, ever, ever expected a postponement, even if a player died on the field. It's happened before. I know everyone on earth may hate me for saying it, but I just don't get how it's so extrmely obvious that no one can play football. Sometimes a player has a loved one pass away and still makes a rational decision whether to play the next day, or the same day, whatever it may be. Maybe it's different when they see the guy up close. I can 100% understand postponing the game. But I can't understand not understanding not postponing the game.Truly are just gladiators to themThe nfl knew he needed cpr and an aed and still suggested a 5 minute warmup! It’s wild how evil they are.Aikman with the really good point that they were literally trying to save the Bills’ teammate right as they watched on.
These guys may need some serious grief counseling. The NFL is a ****ing monster if they have these guys play within the next 48 hours let alone tonight.
					
				He might have slipped into a coma of some type, I'm not a medical expert and I really don't want my own fears to upset others in here.They said he had a pulse so that has to be somewhat good right?
Christian Eriksen collapsed and had to undergo CPR on the field. Play resumed after he was removed from the stadium. This isn't just an NFL thing.Nah. If somebody needs cpr and an aed on the field you send everybody to the locker room. That’s just very basic common sense. Nfl just wanted the show to go on, they deserve no mercy here. Goodell makes like 40M a year to make these decisions.All I can say is that this is a crazy and unprecedented situation where nobody should know what to do. Suggesting a five minute break is awful in hindsight, but I’m inclined to give the NFL a pass should they carry on sensibly from here.Still can’t believe the NFL wanted to give them a five minute warmup and get back out there.
Goodell’s gotta get those ad buy requirements in before calling it
I don’t mean stable as in breathing on his own - just in the context of what can be don’t in an ambulance.Not at all no, and it's really starting to bother me how several people here are talking medical when you clearly have not even the faintest of an idea what you are talking about.Within reason - no one’s doing heart surgery in an ambulance.Zero medical background, but my understanding is that when you’re in an ambulance they can do anything they would need to do in a hospitalMy wife was just saying this to meYeah if he needed to be rushed to a hospital they wouldn’t be waiting for his mom, right?
But once his heart is beating & he’s intubated, he’s probably he considered “stable”.
Again, not arguing with anyone but 75% of American households don't have burial plans and life insurance contingencies for a worst case scenario in their own homes. I just don't think it's in the nature of people or businesses to have an outlined plan for something of this magnitude. But I get it: maybe they sure. I'm sure they have a plan in the event of a terrorist attack on a stadium, an earthquake, etc. But this is just something you cantanticipateto the detail of how it occured.I’m not willing to be fair at all. As awful and horrendous as this is, it 100% should have been a situation that was planned for.I know we all cal the NFL out for their greed and insensitivity but, to be fair, this is unprecedented. They likely didn't know what to do in the moment.Still can’t believe the NFL wanted to give them a five minute warmup and get back out there.
If there wasn’t a plan, then it’s gross incompetence and negligence and worthy of contempt. Especially if their first reaction is to get the game going again rather than consulting with the organizations to make a decision together.
If it was planned for and that was their plan, then Goodell and a large number of people should be fired.
Journalists over the next several days should be demanding to know which it was.
At this point, "practically dying" would be the best news that could come out. If there were any positive news right now it would have gotten out. The people who would have gotten news are packing up to go home.Imagine somebody you work with or love practically dying right in front of you and your boss going ok you got 5 minutes get back to it.I’m sorry but you are being kind of an *** here. This is a situation the NFL has not dealt with before. Have some grace.Nah. If somebody needs cpr and an aed on the field you send everybody to the locker room. That’s just very basic common sense. Nfl just wanted the show to go on, they deserve no mercy here. Goodell makes like 40M a year to make these decisions.All I can say is that this is a crazy and unprecedented situation where nobody should know what to do. Suggesting a five minute break is awful in hindsight, but I’m inclined to give the NFL a pass should they carry on sensibly from here.Still can’t believe the NFL wanted to give them a five minute warmup and get back out there.
This is insane. You all don’t have to defend the shield like this. The nfl doesn’t care about you either.
Agree. Just show something else. I feel for them having to talk about this.Hearing Booger, Suzie & Adam have to fill up air time with hushed tones is really painful.
He’s reportedly in critical condition.Not watching, but catching up now.
Is Hamlin’s situation comparable to Darryl Stingley , Marc Buonoconti, or Dennis Byrd’s? Or thought to be worse (immediately life-threatening)?
We're not concerned about that tonightSome serious questions on what happens next and how to handle this game, rest of season.
WorseNot watching, but catching up now.
Is Hamlin’s situation comparable to Darryl Stingley , Marc Buonoconti, or Dennis Byrd’s? Or thought to be worse (immediately life-threatening)?
The game is based around violence and hitting people as hard as you can. There’s not a great answer here.I probably shouldn't even post this. But, a little bit excessive reactions ... "It's wild how evil they are"? I get it, it's a very serious situation. I never, ever, ever expected a postponement, even if a player died on the field. It's happened before. I know everyone on earth may hate me for saying it, but I just don't get how it's so extrmely obvious that no one can play football. Sometimes a player has a loved one pass away and still makes a rational decision whether to play the next day, or the same day, whatever it may be. Maybe it's different when they see the guy up close. I can 100% understand postponing the game. But I can't understand not understanding not postponing the game.Truly are just gladiators to themThe nfl knew he needed cpr and an aed and still suggested a 5 minute warmup! It’s wild how evil they are.Aikman with the really good point that they were literally trying to save the Bills’ teammate right as they watched on.
These guys may need some serious grief counseling. The NFL is a ****ing monster if they have these guys play within the next 48 hours let alone tonight.
To be clear. I don't mind if the game is postponed, I'm not saying "how dare they take away my football game!" It just surprises me how unanimous and vehement the reations are.
Yeah just say ESPN will resume when it has substantive news and put on the Rose Bowl or something.Agree. Just show something else. I feel for them having to talk about this.Hearing Booger, Suzie & Adam have to fill up air time with hushed tones is really painful.
Christian Eriksen collapsed and had to undergo CPR on the field. Play resumed after he was removed from the stadium. This isn't just an NFL thing.Nah. If somebody needs cpr and an aed on the field you send everybody to the locker room. That’s just very basic common sense. Nfl just wanted the show to go on, they deserve no mercy here. Goodell makes like 40M a year to make these decisions.All I can say is that this is a crazy and unprecedented situation where nobody should know what to do. Suggesting a five minute break is awful in hindsight, but I’m inclined to give the NFL a pass should they carry on sensibly from here.Still can’t believe the NFL wanted to give them a five minute warmup and get back out there.
Well in that case the game wasn't resumed until Eriksen was confimred OK and actually spoke to his teammates telling them to go out and play.
Because there are actual human beings playing the game who may have just seen a teammate, friend, hell just another human being, potentially die on the field right in front of themI probably shouldn't even post this. But, a little bit excessive reactions ... "It's wild how evil they are"? I get it, it's a very serious situation. I never, ever, ever expected a postponement, even if a player died on the field. It's happened before. I know everyone on earth may hate me for saying it, but I just don't get how it's so extrmely obvious that no one can play football. Sometimes a player has a loved one pass away and still makes a rational decision whether to play the next day, or the same day, whatever it may be. Maybe it's different when they see the guy up close. I can 100% understand postponing the game. But I can't understand not understanding not postponing the game.Truly are just gladiators to themThe nfl knew he needed cpr and an aed and still suggested a 5 minute warmup! It’s wild how evil they are.Aikman with the really good point that they were literally trying to save the Bills’ teammate right as they watched on.
These guys may need some serious grief counseling. The NFL is a ****ing monster if they have these guys play within the next 48 hours let alone tonight.
To be clear. I don't mind if the game is postponed, I'm not saying "how dare they take away my football game!" It just surprises me how unanimous and vehement the reations are.
Great postStill can’t believe the NFL wanted to give them a five minute warmup and get back out there.
Yeah to me this is truly a no-brainer.Because there are actual human beings playing the game who may have just seen a teammate, friend, hell just another human being, potentially die on the field right in front of themI probably shouldn't even post this. But, a little bit excessive reactions ... "It's wild how evil they are"? I get it, it's a very serious situation. I never, ever, ever expected a postponement, even if a player died on the field. It's happened before. I know everyone on earth may hate me for saying it, but I just don't get how it's so extrmely obvious that no one can play football. Sometimes a player has a loved one pass away and still makes a rational decision whether to play the next day, or the same day, whatever it may be. Maybe it's different when they see the guy up close. I can 100% understand postponing the game. But I can't understand not understanding not postponing the game.Truly are just gladiators to themThe nfl knew he needed cpr and an aed and still suggested a 5 minute warmup! It’s wild how evil they are.Aikman with the really good point that they were literally trying to save the Bills’ teammate right as they watched on.
These guys may need some serious grief counseling. The NFL is a ****ing monster if they have these guys play within the next 48 hours let alone tonight.
To be clear. I don't mind if the game is postponed, I'm not saying "how dare they take away my football game!" It just surprises me how unanimous and vehement the reations are.
I thought it was ghoulish in real time and I still think it’s ghoulish. NFL blew it in a big moment.Christian Eriksen collapsed and had to undergo CPR on the field. Play resumed after he was removed from the stadium. This isn't just an NFL thing.Nah. If somebody needs cpr and an aed on the field you send everybody to the locker room. That’s just very basic common sense. Nfl just wanted the show to go on, they deserve no mercy here. Goodell makes like 40M a year to make these decisions.All I can say is that this is a crazy and unprecedented situation where nobody should know what to do. Suggesting a five minute break is awful in hindsight, but I’m inclined to give the NFL a pass should they carry on sensibly from here.Still can’t believe the NFL wanted to give them a five minute warmup and get back out there.
Well in that case the game wasn't resumed until Eriksen was confimred OK and actually spoke to his teammates telling them to go out and play.
Thank you. I don’t understand how anybody can defend this. Bills players were sobbing on the field.
Lets put it this way, it's good news but this situation is unfortunately LIKELY to have a very bad outcome, the worst kind of outcome.Let's hope this is true.
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EJ Smith
@EJSmith94
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My cardiac nurse wife says this is a very encouraging, potentially miraculous development.
Joe Danneman
@FOX19Joe
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I’m told Damar Hamlin has a pulse, but is not breathing on his own. He is being transported to UC. Needed AED and CPR on the field.
Good point. Which asks the question: if he is in critical condition or worse, heaven forbid, how do these two teams take the field anytime soon in the coming days?Because there are actual human beings playing the game who may have just seen a teammate, friend, hell just another human being, potentially die on the field right in front of themI probably shouldn't even post this. But, a little bit excessive reactions ... "It's wild how evil they are"? I get it, it's a very serious situation. I never, ever, ever expected a postponement, even if a player died on the field. It's happened before. I know everyone on earth may hate me for saying it, but I just don't get how it's so extrmely obvious that no one can play football. Sometimes a player has a loved one pass away and still makes a rational decision whether to play the next day, or the same day, whatever it may be. Maybe it's different when they see the guy up close. I can 100% understand postponing the game. But I can't understand not understanding not postponing the game.Truly are just gladiators to themThe nfl knew he needed cpr and an aed and still suggested a 5 minute warmup! It’s wild how evil they are.Aikman with the really good point that they were literally trying to save the Bills’ teammate right as they watched on.
These guys may need some serious grief counseling. The NFL is a ****ing monster if they have these guys play within the next 48 hours let alone tonight.
To be clear. I don't mind if the game is postponed, I'm not saying "how dare they take away my football game!" It just surprises me how unanimous and vehement the reations are.
Only the “ok, go get an orange slice & come back in 5” part. That was a bad look in that moment.With all due respect to everyone here, to me the NFL has handled this the best they could. And Espn as well. You do the best you can with the information you have.
And ESPN has not speculated and have handled this respectfully. This is an incredibly unique situation.
According to the Doctors of Twitter this appears to be classic commotio cordis.The percentage of recovery if a shock needs to be administered is......very low. Just saying
Yeah. AED was right there, which is good but you have to wonder how long he was pulseless for still.Lets put it this way, it's good news but this situation is unfortunately LIKELY to have a very bad outcome, the worst kind of outcome.Let's hope this is true.
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EJ Smith
@EJSmith94
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26m
My cardiac nurse wife says this is a very encouraging, potentially miraculous development.
Joe Danneman
@FOX19Joe
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30m
I’m told Damar Hamlin has a pulse, but is not breathing on his own. He is being transported to UC. Needed AED and CPR on the field.
At least he had immediate care. Had he not, he'd have had zero chance.
Lets put it this way, it's good news but this situation is unfortunately LIKELY to have a very bad outcome, the worst kind of outcome.
Except none of us know what information was available at the time.Only the “ok, go get an orange slice & come back in 5” part. That was a bad look in that moment.With all due respect to everyone here, to me the NFL has handled this the best they could. And Espn as well. You do the best you can with the information you have.
And ESPN has not speculated and have handled this respectfully. This is an incredibly unique situation.