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Build a FRANCHISE draft (2 Viewers)

'ExaltedOne said:
'Whicker said:
Favorite: Eric Weddle. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I believe Weddle should have been clear 1B at safety to Earl Thomas. Getting him at 3.32 is insane value IMO.

Least favorite: Nick Fairly. I just don't believe that he will become an elite DT
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You aren't in the minority on Weddle. He outplayed every safety in the league last season, by a large margin and he's only 28. I probably should have taken him over Crabtree, but thought he or Byrd would make it back around to me.
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I came very close to taking him over Monroe but hoped he'd fall.
 
'RBM said:
4.6 Chicago Bears - Luke Kuechly, MLB

We have a tradition to uphold in Chicago, plus I knew I wanted to start my D with a pass rushing end and a captain in the middle. Bright future for this kid. Not often are inside backers taken in the top ten of the draft but he proved he was worth it.
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Tradition of crappy QBs?
 
4.10 DE/LB Terrell Suggs

Edge rusher who is good against the run. Getting a bit older and more injury prone but should still have 2-3 good years left.

 
4.11 Dallas select Eric Berry SS

Best young saftey in the league. Ed reed 2.0. Was planning on going a different direction here but he was too good to pass up.

 
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4.12 Cincinnati Bengals select DL Corey Liuget

Liuget, at only 23, played like J.J. Watt lite last season. He had 7 sacks as a 3-4 defensive end, which is pretty remarkable and the same number that Calais Campbell (2.08 pick) had. With 8 batted passes, only Watt had more than he did. I also like that he got better at the end of the year, registering 5 of his sacks in the last 6 games.

He played 4-3 DT at Illinois so I like his versatility as well.

Bengals team:

1.13 QB Matt Ryan 27

2.21 LT Ryan Clady 27

3.21 WR Michael Crabtree 26

4.13 DL Corey Liuget 23

 
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Some thoughts since I last checked in.

1. I think many of you are over rating the value of WR. I won't name drop here, but there are numerous guys on the draft board that would be studs with the right QB. There's almost an endless supply of good WRs in the college ranks.

2. As a Panther fan...Charles Johnson is very over rated. Too many games where he just doesn't show up.

3. Not sure about the disconnect between perceived RB value here and how the real GMs draft them. I agree with you guys about waiting yet the NFL GMs seem to select them high in drafts. If I was drafting with you guys, I'd be waiting until the last few rounds and be confident I'd have a good back.

 
'BassNBrew said:
Some thoughts since I last checked in.1. I think many of you are over rating the value of WR. I won't name drop here, but there are numerous guys on the draft board that would be studs with the right QB. There's almost an endless supply of good WRs in the college ranks.2. As a Panther fan...Charles Johnson is very over rated. Too many games where he just doesn't show up.3. Not sure about the disconnect between perceived RB value here and how the real GMs draft them. I agree with you guys about waiting yet the NFL GMs seem to select them high in drafts. If I was drafting with you guys, I'd be waiting until the last few rounds and be confident I'd have a good back.
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Totally agree with one and three(RB's especially, they always come out of nowhere). I'd also be weary of the strategy to load up in just one area(offensive skill, DB's, O/D Line) since it really limits your ability to take advantage of value picks later, and you might find yourself reaching based on needs instead of taking the BPA while it's still relatively early in the draft.
 
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'BassNBrew said:
Some thoughts since I last checked in.1. I think many of you are over rating the value of WR. I won't name drop here, but there are numerous guys on the draft board that would be studs with the right QB. There's almost an endless supply of good WRs in the college ranks.2. As a Panther fan...Charles Johnson is very over rated. Too many games where he just doesn't show up.3. Not sure about the disconnect between perceived RB value here and how the real GMs draft them. I agree with you guys about waiting yet the NFL GMs seem to select them high in drafts. If I was drafting with you guys, I'd be waiting until the last few rounds and be confident I'd have a good back.
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:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting:
 
I like that with two teams we can try out two completely different strategies. With the Bengals I've gone with a more conservative strategy, and with the Browns a very risky, but very exciting strategy.

It's obvious to me that most of the owners in this league have very different strategies and player valuations, so it's going to be really interesting to see how things work out.

 
'ExaltedOne said:
I like that with two teams we can try out two completely different strategies. With the Bengals I've gone with a more conservative strategy, and with the Browns a very risky, but very exciting strategy.It's obvious to me that most of the owners in this league have very different strategies and player valuations, so it's going to be really interesting to see how things work out.
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:goodposting: I was skeptical at first about having two teams but I like the idea of having two different strategies.
 
4.13Patriots select Bruce Irvin, OLB

I almost went in a different direction here but I want to make sure I have two OLBs in my 3-4 that can get to the passer. I'm more.concerned with pressures than sacks and j have Irvin and Houston both top 10 in pressure.efficiency.

Eli Manning

Jimmy Graham

Justin Houston

Bruce Irvin

 
'Late225 said:
4.13Patriots select Bruce Irvin, OLBI almost went in a different direction here but I want to make sure I have two OLBs in my 3-4 that can get to the passer. I'm more.concerned with pressures than sacks and j have Irvin and Houston both top 10 in pressure.efficiency. Eli ManningJimmy GrahamJustin HoustonBruce Irvin
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That guy can get to the qb. But not sure about the position and he is useless against the run
 
'ExaltedOne said:
I like that with two teams we can try out two completely different strategies. With the Bengals I've gone with a more conservative strategy, and with the Browns a very risky, but very exciting strategy.It's obvious to me that most of the owners in this league have very different strategies and player valuations, so it's going to be really interesting to see how things work out.
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:yes: Having two teams makes this even more interesting. I'm purposely taking different approaches.
 
'ExaltedOne said:
4.12 Cincinnati Bengals select DL Corey Liuget

Liuget, at only 23, played like J.J. Watt lite last season. He had 7 sacks as a 3-4 defensive end, which is pretty remarkable and the same number that Calais Campbell (2.08 pick) had. With 8 batted passes, only Watt had more than he did. I also like that he got better at the end of the year, registering 5 of his sacks in the last 6 games.

He played 4-3 DT at Illinois so I like his versatility as well.

Bengals team:

1.13 QB Matt Ryan 27

2.21 LT Ryan Clady 27

3.21 WR Michael Crabtree 26

4.13 DL Corey Liuget 23
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Not sure whether to thank you or be upset. Liuget was going to be a very tempting pick at #18 and he was tempting at 4. Really not sure if I prefer him or Chandler Jones, they seem of comparable quality.
 
'FUBAR said:
Not sure whether to thank you or be upset. Liuget was going to be a very tempting pick at #18 and he was tempting at 4. Really not sure if I prefer him or Chandler Jones, they seem of comparable quality.
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The 8 batted passes (Jones had 3) really puts Liuget over the top for me. It just shows such a great positional awareness that you usually don't see from a guy that young.
 
'FUBAR said:
'ExaltedOne said:
4.12 Cincinnati Bengals select DL Corey Liuget

Liuget, at only 23, played like J.J. Watt lite last season. He had 7 sacks as a 3-4 defensive end, which is pretty remarkable and the same number that Calais Campbell (2.08 pick) had. With 8 batted passes, only Watt had more than he did. I also like that he got better at the end of the year, registering 5 of his sacks in the last 6 games.

He played 4-3 DT at Illinois so I like his versatility as well.

Bengals team:

1.13 QB Matt Ryan 27

2.21 LT Ryan Clady 27

3.21 WR Michael Crabtree 26

4.13 DL Corey Liuget 23
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Not sure whether to thank you or be upset. Liuget was going to be a very tempting pick at #18 and he was tempting at 4. Really not sure if I prefer him or Chandler Jones, they seem of comparable quality.
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He wasn't making it past 15. Liuget fell too far IMO.
 
'Whicker said:
'FUBAR said:
'ExaltedOne said:
4.12 Cincinnati Bengals select DL Corey Liuget

Liuget, at only 23, played like J.J. Watt lite last season. He had 7 sacks as a 3-4 defensive end, which is pretty remarkable and the same number that Calais Campbell (2.08 pick) had. With 8 batted passes, only Watt had more than he did. I also like that he got better at the end of the year, registering 5 of his sacks in the last 6 games.

He played 4-3 DT at Illinois so I like his versatility as well.

Bengals team:

1.13 QB Matt Ryan 27

2.21 LT Ryan Clady 27

3.21 WR Michael Crabtree 26

4.13 DL Corey Liuget 23
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Not sure whether to thank you or be upset. Liuget was going to be a very tempting pick at #18 and he was tempting at 4. Really not sure if I prefer him or Chandler Jones, they seem of comparable quality.
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He wasn't making it past 15. Liuget fell too far IMO.
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Liuget was my main other option at the time I picked Derrick Johnson - I decided to stay flexible rather than lock myself into either a 4-3 or having a bench player already. I really like the pick, I considered him with Fairley as well.
 
'Instinctive said:
Liuget was my main other option at the time I picked Derrick Johnson - I decided to stay flexible rather than lock myself into either a 4-3 or having a bench player already. I really like the pick, I considered him with Fairley as well.
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It's probably best you didn't. I don't think Fairley or Liuget would make a great 4-3 defensive end.I'm glad you didn't take Liuget, though, because I like him better than Fairley.
 
Julius Peppers, DE

Still has plenty left in the tank. One of the top pass rushers in the league, I expect Peppers to get plenty of sack opportunities while Peyton, Julio and Martin to give him plenty of rest.

Oakland Raiders

QB - Peyton Manning

WR - Julio Jones

RB - Doug Martin

DE - Julius Peppers

 
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Can we please put in our picks with the round and pick number?

Round.Pick - Player, Position

It would make it WAY easier to tell where we are.

 
'ExaltedOne said:
'Instinctive said:
Liuget was my main other option at the time I picked Derrick Johnson - I decided to stay flexible rather than lock myself into either a 4-3 or having a bench player already. I really like the pick, I considered him with Fairley as well.
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It's probably best you didn't. I don't think Fairley or Liuget would make a great 4-3 defensive end.I'm glad you didn't take Liuget, though, because I like him better than Fairley.
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I think you guys are insane on Fairley - even with the penalties, his production as a rookie was incredible in both run and pass defense.
 
4.15 Cardinals select Ryan Kerrigan, OLB/DE

I wanted to start building an offense here, but young pass rushers are flying off the board while there is still legitimate depth in many offensive positions, as well as in defensive backs. Kerrigan has established himself as a consistent pass rusher with 7.5 sacks his rookie season and 8.5 this last one as well as displaying solid ability against the run. His major weakness has been pass coverage, but with the defense that I'm envisioning, Kerrigan will hardly ever find himself in coverage on passing downs.

In my previous picks, I've stressed that I've wanted to remain flexible in my front seven. Although Kerrigan pushes me more towards the 3-4, I still feel as though I have some flexibility. He played DE in college and, with Atkins and Wilkerson tying up the interior, I believe that he can become a formidable 5-tech DE at the NFL level.

Cardinals:

1.15 - Geno Atkins

2.18 - Muhammad Wilkerson

3.18 - Daryl Washington

4.15 - Ryan Kerrigan

 
4.16 Redskins select Janoris Jenkins

I need to start going defense on this team and I view Jenkins as a guy that has the ability to be a shut down corner in a year or two. I really like him and think hell be able to grow into a Pro Bowl caliber CB.

 
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'Instinctive said:
Can we please put in our picks with the round and pick number?Round.Pick - Player, PositionIt would make it WAY easier to tell where we are.
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I've been using the spreadsheet to tell where we are. Didn't realize people were tracking progress through these posts. I'll keep that in mind.
 
4.17 Paul Soliai, DT/NT

Coming off a less than stellar year but only a year removed from being an absolute beast in the middle. One of the few DT's who commands a Double, sometimes triple, team. You put a man-monster like this in front of JL and you will have a top 5 defense.

 
I'll be in Meetings the next couple of hours; PM Bamac for my next pick (plus he'll be up anyway).

 
Alright, I fought against this but he makes sense for our team and is one of a few QBs left I trust as our franchise guy...

4.18 Andy Dalton, QB

 
Break time. From Duckboy:

I'm in meetings the next couple of hours. If FUBAR picks, I want Andy Dalton at this spot. If he happens to take him, I'll have to regroup after I get out.

 
LOL. Dalton is a great value here. Just for giggles, check out this comparison (sorry RBM):

Dalton first 2 years:

7067 yards, 47 TDs

Flacco first 2 years:

6584 yards, 35 TDs

Both made the playoffs their first 2 years, although admittedly Flacco actually won 3 of those (and Dalton won 0)

:lmao:

 
'ExaltedOne said:
LOL. Dalton is a great value here. Just for giggles, check out this comparison (sorry RBM):Dalton first 2 years:7067 yards, 47 TDsFlacco first 2 years:6584 yards, 35 TDsBoth made the playoffs their first 2 years, although admittedly Flacco actually won 3 of those (and Dalton won 0) :lmao:
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:lmao: :boxing: Playoff wins and AJ Green.
 
Yesterday's pace seemed to be better than today's. If we do a round a day it'll take 53 days to complete. Two rounds a day it'll be a few weeks to complete.

Since we have an intermission, anybody have a favorite team so far? I've got to say I'm very intrigued by the Steelers (Cam, Percy, Andre, Tyron Smith). It's the flashy team for sure at this point. Skins (Roethlisberger, ADP, Vernon, Janoris) are another team I like. All of their picks have simply been good value I think. The Browns (AJ Green, Demaryius, Spiller) has the potential to be very dangerous and I am interested to see what he does for the rest of the draft.

Objectively, I think my Saints team (Aaron Rodgers, Lardarius Webb, Weddle, Wagner) is at least as good as any other team so far if not the best. My other team the Chiefs (Sherman, Calais, Dareus) has the natural disadvantage of not having a stud QB so I'd say it's a middle of the pack team.

Lot of rounds left though for teams to shape up. :football:

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That was a short intermission. :lmao:

 
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