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[RBM]

LOL. Dalton is a great value here. Just for giggles, check out this comparison (sorry RBM):

Dalton first 2 years:

7067 yards, 47 TDs

Flacco first 2 years:

6584 yards, 35 TDs

Both made the playoffs their first 2 years, although admittedly Flacco actually won 3 of those (and Dalton won 0)

Playoff wins and AJ Green.

Ravens Defense

That has not been a dominant defense in quite some time. Good D, but no way have they been dominant. Bengals D is pretty good also.

 

[Late225]

Let's not turn this thread into a Joe Flacco vs Andy Dalton debate.

Bump Finley.

 

[ExaltedOne]

The fact that the comparison isn't completely laughable when one was selected at 1.06 and the other was selected at 4.18 says it all.

Anywho, I'm done

 

[Nucker101]

LOL. Dalton is a great value here. Just for giggles, check out this comparison (sorry RBM)alton first 2 years:7067 yards, 47 TDsFlacco first 2 years:6584 yards, 35 TDsBoth made the playoffs their first 2 years, although admittedly Flacco actually won 3 of those (and Dalton won 0)

Playoff wins and AJ Green.

Lots of mediocre QB's have struggled despite having a great WR, look at Fitz in Arizona since Warner left. I don't wanna turn this into a debate though so carry on with the draft guys.

 

[RBM]

The fact that the comparison isn't completely laughable when one was selected at 1.06 and the other was selected at 4.18 says it all.Anywho, I'm done

Actually for anyone with a clue it is silly. One is a Super Bowl MVP and the highest paid player in football. The other is a 2nd yr, mediocre qb who has showed some good leadership skills.

 

[RBM]

From Gil Brandt's list of QBs under 30:

3) Joe Flacco, 28, Baltimore RavensFlacco doesn't put up eye-popping stats, but he wins big games on the road, especially in the playoffs, where he has more road wins than any quarterback in NFL history. No one in the NFL has a better arm than Flacco. He played much better after Jim Caldwell took over as the Ravens' offensive coordinator in December.Incidentally, Flacco's incredible success this postseason -- he's thrown eight touchdowns and zero interceptions -- bodes well for him in the Super Bowl. Five other quarterbacks have thrown eight or more touchdowns and zero picks in the postseason: Joe Montana, Steve Young, Phil Simms, Troy Aikman and Drew Brees. All won the Lombardi Trophy that season while being named the MVP of the title game.13) Andy Dalton, 25, Cincinnati BengalsDalton is a very solid, hard-working player who most likely won't win much on his own. He did take Cincinnati to the playoffs his first two seasons in the league, but he seems to need the help of an outstanding supporting cast to get anywhere.

I really don't want to keep doing this crap, but if people are going to make idiotic comments I am going to keep backing my pick obviously.

 

[Bamac]

Bucs: 4.20 FLETCHER COX, DT

will PM next.

 

[Whicker]

Yesterday's pace seemed to be better than today's. If we do a round a day it'll take 53 days to complete. Two rounds a day it'll be a few weeks to complete.Since we have an intermission, anybody have a favorite team so far? I've got to say I'm very intrigued by the Steelers (Cam, Percy, Andre, Tyron Smith). It's the flashy team for sure at this point. Skins (Roethlisberger, ADP, Vernon, Janoris) are another team I like. All of their picks have simply been good value I think. The Browns (AJ Green, Demaryius, Spiller) has the potential to be very dangerous and I am interested to see what he does for the rest of the draft.Objectively, I think my Saints team (Aaron Rodgers, Lardarius Webb, Weddle, Wagner) is at least as good as any other team so far if not the best. My other team the Chiefs (Sherman, Calais, Dareus) has the natural disadvantage of not having a stud QB so I'd say it's a middle of the pack team.Lot of rounds left though for teams to shape up. Edit:That was a short intermission.

I'm putting in another vote to the Steelers as a favorite team thus far. Cam, Percy, and Andre seem to fit together pretty well and Smith was one of the best values at OT.The Saints, Vikings, and 49ers have the best teams so far, but that is obviously because no one without a stud QB has been able to make up for it yet. I would clearly go with the 49ers here if Fisher weren't an unknown.As for my team, it's middle of the road at best at this point. I feel like I'm racing the Rams, Chiefs, Chargers, and Falcons for the most dominate D. To be completely honest, the five of us are likely equal so far in that regard.

 

[Late225]

I honestly don't think the first few rounds will determine who the best teams will be. Rounds 10-25 will probably be key.

 

[ExaltedOne]

I honestly don't think the first few rounds will determine who the best teams will be. Rounds 10-25 will probably be key.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Leon Sandcastle, CB will add speed to an already lightning fast Browns team.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

I love the joke picks in the spreadsheet.

 

[Whicker]

Leon Sandcastle, CB will add speed to an already lightning fast Browns team.

In that case I'm changing my favorite team vote to the Browns.

 

[ExaltedOne]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzToNo7A-94

 

[ExaltedOne]

 

[Wu-banger]

4.21 Chargers Select ---

Lawrence Timmons , LB

Do everything LB that is solid vs run and pass should fit well in the pieces already in place.

Please PM next ...on mobile.

btw...Sorry for delay , bad timing for my pick ...kids bball practice them my bball game.

 

[ExaltedOne]

The pick you all were waiting for. The winner of the "who gets to throw to those guys?" sweepstakes is....

4.22 Cleveland Browns select Geno Smith, QB

Risky, I know, handing the keys to the franchise to a rookie, but it worked out almost every time with QBs last year, several of whom didn't have the petigree of Geno. I'll continue to build the offense around him, and having Green and Thomas to throw to and Spiller to hand off to will make his transition to the NFL as smooth as possible.

I have confidence that in the right situation (like this one) he would be in the same conversation as guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, and Kaepernick next year. Here's his college stats:

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Geno Smith – 985 / 1461 / 67.4% / 11,658 / 98 / 21 / 153.7. / 1.4%

Tyler Wilson – 593 / 948 / 62.6% / 7,765 / 52 / 26 / 144.0. / 2.7%

Mike Glennon – 611 / 1016 / 60.1% / 7,028 / 62 / 28 / 132.9. / 2.7%

Matt Barkley – 1001/ 1562 / 64.1% / 12,327 /116 / 48 / 148.7. / 3.1%

Robert Griffin – 800 / 1192 / 67.1% / 10,366 / 78 / 17 / 158.9. / 1.4%

Andrew Luck – 713 / 1064 / 67.0% / 9,430 / 82 / 22 / 162.8. / 2.1%

Russell Wilson – 907 / 1489 / 60.9% / 11,720 /109 / 30 / 147.2. / 2.0%

Some HOF QBs and some others to compare to

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Peyton Manning – 863 / 1381 / 62.5% / 11,201 / 89 / 33 / 147.1. / 2.4%

Tom Brady – 443 / 711 / 62.3% / 5,351 / 35 / 19 / 136.4. / 2.7%

Aaron Rodgers – 424 / 665 / 63.8% / 5,469 / 43 / 13 / 150.3. / 1.9%

Steve Young – 592 / 908 / 65.2% / 7,633 / 56 / 33 / 148.9. / 3.6%

John Elway – 774 / 1246 / 62.1% / 9,344 / 77 / 39 / 139.3. / 3.1%

Philip Rivers - 1087 / 1711 / 63.5% / 13,484 / 95 / 34 / 144.1. / 2.0%

Don McNabb – 562 / 968 / 58.1% / 8,581 / 78 / 27 / 153.0. / 2.8%

I know college stats don't mean everything, but this combined with his high character, very quick (Rodgers quick) release, ball velocity, and his athleticism, I feel like he has what it takes.

1.23 WR A.J. Green 24

2.11 WR Demaryius Thomas 25

3.11 HB C.J. Spiller 26

4.23 QB Geno Smith 22

 

[AwesomeAuger]

4.21 Chargers Select ---Lawrence Timmons , LBDo everything LB that is solid vs run and pass should fit well in the pieces already in place.Please PM next ...on mobile.btw...Sorry for delay , bad timing for my pick ...kids bball practice them my bball game.

Good pick. Far and away the top player on the Chief's board.

 

[amicsta]

The pick you all were waiting for. The winner of the "who gets to throw to those guys?" sweepstakes is....

4.22 Cleveland Browns select Geno Smith, QB

Risky, I know, handing the keys to the franchise to a rookie, but it worked out almost every time with QBs last year, several of whom didn't have the petigree of Geno. I'll continue to build the offense around him, and having Green and Thomas to throw to and Spiller to hand off to will make his transition to the NFL as smooth as possible.

I have confidence that in the right situation (like this one) he would be in the same conversation as guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, and Kaepernick next year. Here's his college stats:

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Geno Smith – 985 / 1461 / 67.4% / 11,658 / 98 / 21 / 153.7. / 1.4%

Tyler Wilson – 593 / 948 / 62.6% / 7,765 / 52 / 26 / 144.0. / 2.7%

Mike Glennon – 611 / 1016 / 60.1% / 7,028 / 62 / 28 / 132.9. / 2.7%

Matt Barkley – 1001/ 1562 / 64.1% / 12,327 /116 / 48 / 148.7. / 3.1%

Robert Griffin – 800 / 1192 / 67.1% / 10,366 / 78 / 17 / 158.9. / 1.4%

Andrew Luck – 713 / 1064 / 67.0% / 9,430 / 82 / 22 / 162.8. / 2.1%

Russell Wilson – 907 / 1489 / 60.9% / 11,720 /109 / 30 / 147.2. / 2.0%

Some HOF QBs and some others to compare to

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Peyton Manning – 863 / 1381 / 62.5% / 11,201 / 89 / 33 / 147.1. / 2.4%

Tom Brady – 443 / 711 / 62.3% / 5,351 / 35 / 19 / 136.4. / 2.7%

Aaron Rodgers – 424 / 665 / 63.8% / 5,469 / 43 / 13 / 150.3. / 1.9%

Steve Young – 592 / 908 / 65.2% / 7,633 / 56 / 33 / 148.9. / 3.6%

John Elway – 774 / 1246 / 62.1% / 9,344 / 77 / 39 / 139.3. / 3.1%

Philip Rivers - 1087 / 1711 / 63.5% / 13,484 / 95 / 34 / 144.1. / 2.0%

Don McNabb – 562 / 968 / 58.1% / 8,581 / 78 / 27 / 153.0. / 2.8%

I know college stats don't mean everything, but this combined with his high character, very quick (Rodgers quick) release, ball velocity, and his athleticism, I feel like he has what it takes.

45% of Geno's passes were thrown within the first 5 yards from scrimmage (and that little shovel flip to Tavon in the backfield counted as a pass). He also played in a high octane offense in a conference that plays no defense (including their own team). I'm not saying that this makes Geno a bad prospect (although I don't really like him), just that it boosts his statistics.

 

[Late225]

The pick you all were waiting for. The winner of the "who gets to throw to those guys?" sweepstakes is....

4.22 Cleveland Browns select Geno Smith, QB

Risky, I know, handing the keys to the franchise to a rookie, but it worked out almost every time with QBs last year, several of whom didn't have the petigree of Geno. I'll continue to build the offense around him, and having Green and Thomas to throw to and Spiller to hand off to will make his transition to the NFL as smooth as possible.

I have confidence that in the right situation (like this one) he would be in the same conversation as guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, and Kaepernick next year. Here's his college stats:

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Geno Smith – 985 / 1461 / 67.4% / 11,658 / 98 / 21 / 153.7. / 1.4%

Tyler Wilson – 593 / 948 / 62.6% / 7,765 / 52 / 26 / 144.0. / 2.7%

Mike Glennon – 611 / 1016 / 60.1% / 7,028 / 62 / 28 / 132.9. / 2.7%

Matt Barkley – 1001/ 1562 / 64.1% / 12,327 /116 / 48 / 148.7. / 3.1%

Robert Griffin – 800 / 1192 / 67.1% / 10,366 / 78 / 17 / 158.9. / 1.4%

Andrew Luck – 713 / 1064 / 67.0% / 9,430 / 82 / 22 / 162.8. / 2.1%

Russell Wilson – 907 / 1489 / 60.9% / 11,720 /109 / 30 / 147.2. / 2.0%

Some HOF QBs and some others to compare to

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Peyton Manning – 863 / 1381 / 62.5% / 11,201 / 89 / 33 / 147.1. / 2.4%

Tom Brady – 443 / 711 / 62.3% / 5,351 / 35 / 19 / 136.4. / 2.7%

Aaron Rodgers – 424 / 665 / 63.8% / 5,469 / 43 / 13 / 150.3. / 1.9%

Steve Young – 592 / 908 / 65.2% / 7,633 / 56 / 33 / 148.9. / 3.6%

John Elway – 774 / 1246 / 62.1% / 9,344 / 77 / 39 / 139.3. / 3.1%

Philip Rivers - 1087 / 1711 / 63.5% / 13,484 / 95 / 34 / 144.1. / 2.0%

Don McNabb – 562 / 968 / 58.1% / 8,581 / 78 / 27 / 153.0. / 2.8%

I know college stats don't mean everything, but this combined with his high character, very quick (Rodgers quick) release, ball velocity, and his athleticism, I feel like he has what it takes.

If he was the highest rated player on your board, I can't argue with this selection. I really think you could have picked him up in a few rounds though.

 

[FUBAR]

Geno will at least be able to throw to spiller

 

[AwesomeAuger]

The pick you all were waiting for. The winner of the "who gets to throw to those guys?" sweepstakes is....

4.22 Cleveland Browns select Geno Smith, QB

Risky, I know, handing the keys to the franchise to a rookie, but it worked out almost every time with QBs last year, several of whom didn't have the petigree of Geno. I'll continue to build the offense around him, and having Green and Thomas to throw to and Spiller to hand off to will make his transition to the NFL as smooth as possible.

I have confidence that in the right situation (like this one) he would be in the same conversation as guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, and Kaepernick next year. Here's his college stats:

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Geno Smith – 985 / 1461 / 67.4% / 11,658 / 98 / 21 / 153.7. / 1.4%

Tyler Wilson – 593 / 948 / 62.6% / 7,765 / 52 / 26 / 144.0. / 2.7%

Mike Glennon – 611 / 1016 / 60.1% / 7,028 / 62 / 28 / 132.9. / 2.7%

Matt Barkley – 1001/ 1562 / 64.1% / 12,327 /116 / 48 / 148.7. / 3.1%

Robert Griffin – 800 / 1192 / 67.1% / 10,366 / 78 / 17 / 158.9. / 1.4%

Andrew Luck – 713 / 1064 / 67.0% / 9,430 / 82 / 22 / 162.8. / 2.1%

Russell Wilson – 907 / 1489 / 60.9% / 11,720 /109 / 30 / 147.2. / 2.0%

Some HOF QBs and some others to compare to

Player’s name / Cmp / Att / Cmp% / Yrds / TDs/INTs/ Rating / Int Ratio

Peyton Manning – 863 / 1381 / 62.5% / 11,201 / 89 / 33 / 147.1. / 2.4%

Tom Brady – 443 / 711 / 62.3% / 5,351 / 35 / 19 / 136.4. / 2.7%

Aaron Rodgers – 424 / 665 / 63.8% / 5,469 / 43 / 13 / 150.3. / 1.9%

Steve Young – 592 / 908 / 65.2% / 7,633 / 56 / 33 / 148.9. / 3.6%

John Elway – 774 / 1246 / 62.1% / 9,344 / 77 / 39 / 139.3. / 3.1%

Philip Rivers - 1087 / 1711 / 63.5% / 13,484 / 95 / 34 / 144.1. / 2.0%

Don McNabb – 562 / 968 / 58.1% / 8,581 / 78 / 27 / 153.0. / 2.8%

I know college stats don't mean everything, but this combined with his high character, very quick (Rodgers quick) release, ball velocity, and his athleticism, I feel like he has what it takes.

1.23 WR A.J. Green 24

2.11 WR Demaryius Thomas 25

3.11 HB C.J. Spiller 26

4.23 QB Geno Smith 22

I KNEW that was the QB you were going for. Way to make your offense even scarier.

 

[HellToupee]

4.21 Chargers Select ---Lawrence Timmons , LBDo everything LB that is solid vs run and pass should fit well in the pieces already in place.Please PM next ...on mobile.btw...Sorry for delay , bad timing for my pick ...kids bball practice them my bball game.

Good pick. Far and away the top player on the Chief's board.

He's my binky

 

[HellToupee]

4.24 Brandon Browner CB Atlanta Falcons

 

[ExaltedOne]

4.22 Cleveland Browns select Geno Smith, QB

45% of Geno's passes were thrown within the first 5 yards from scrimmage (and that little shovel flip to Tavon in the backfield counted as a pass). He also played in a high octane offense in a conference that plays no defense (including their own team). I'm not saying that this makes Geno a bad prospect (although I don't really like him), just that it boosts his statistics.

Fair enough. I don't hold anyone's offense against them though. He was extremely productive in the offense he was given. After Dalton went off the board, I knew I couldn't wait. With several other teams without a QB between me and my next pick, I felt like I had to take him here.Nobody expected much from Russell Wilson last season, and yet here we are with him as a top 4 pick overall. Wilson was drafted much later than Geno will be, and he wasn't nearly as accurate in college, short quick passes or not. Personally I prefer a guy who has a quick release and can run an up-tempo offense. He may not have RG3's deep accuracy, but he has the arm strength to get it downfield to some really fast guys. I think its better for my team to roll the dice on a young guy that I can develop rather than going with a veteran that we all know won't be elite regardless of his weapons or a backup that has even more question marks than Geno.

 

[HellToupee]

4.24 Brandon Browner CB Atlanta Falcons

4.23

 

[Whoosah]

4.23 was Brandon Browner CB Atlanta Falcons

4.24, Dolphins select: Robert Quinn, DL

"Needed to get a pass rusher and at age 22 with a lot of upside, his ceiling is pretty in my opinion. As long as he is healthy, skies the limit and he's not even in his prime yet."

Offense:

2.09 - Russell Okung, LT

3.09 - Randall Cobb, WR

Defense:

1.24 - Navorro Bowman, LB

4.24 - Robert Quinn, DE

 

[ExaltedOne]

I'm also a Redskins fan so I could see the Browns running the pistol like the Skins did with RG3, that is the offense that Geno ran in college. It obviously translated...

 

[RBM]

4.23 was Brandon Browner CB Atlanta Falcons 4.24, Dolphins select: Robert Quinn, DL"Needed to get a pass rusher and at age 22 with a lot of upside, his ceiling is pretty in my opinion. As long as he is healthy, skies the limit and he's not even in his prime yet."Offense:2.09 - Russell Okung, LT3.09 - Randall Cobb, WRDefense:1.24 - Navorro Bowman, LB4.24 - Robert Quinn, DE

Like your team so far.

 

[Whoosah]

4.23 was Brandon Browner CB Atlanta Falcons 4.24, Dolphins select: Robert Quinn, DL"Needed to get a pass rusher and at age 22 with a lot of upside, his ceiling is pretty in my opinion. As long as he is healthy, skies the limit and he's not even in his prime yet."Offense:2.09 - Russell Okung, LT3.09 - Randall Cobb, WRDefense:1.24 - Navorro Bowman, LB4.24 - Robert Quinn, DE

Like your team so far.

Thanks =)Realized I have a lot of NFC West guys

 

[ExaltedOne]

Offense:2.09 - Russell Okung, LT3.09 - Randall Cobb, WRDefense:1.24 - Navorro Bowman, LB4.24 - Robert Quinn, DE

Like your team so far.

Lots of upside with this team. Very young.

 

[BassNBrew]

Just looked at Dalton's first two years of stats v. Flacco's 1st two years.

Put this up to a shark pool vote....

Flacco/Hardy v. Dalton/Watt

 

[AwesomeAuger]

4.25 Chiefs select Brandon Graham, DE/OLB

Sorry about the delay (for me it's a delay!). As my pick was approaching, I was planning on going Timmons in the 4th and Geno Smith in the 5th. Needless to say, that plan was thrown out the window when my pick arrived. I had a feeling the Browns wanted Geno Smith but thought the Browns would aim to take him in the 5th. I also wasn't expecting... somebody else to be available and passing on him may not be the best move. However, I really want to take a young edge rusher while they're still available so I'm opting for Brandon Graham. Like Calais and Dareus, he is scheme-versatile and allows me to play in multiple fronts.

 

[ExaltedOne]

4.25 Chiefs select Brandon Graham, DE/OLBSorry about the delay (for me it's a delay!). As my pick was approaching, I was planning on going Timmons in the 4th and Geno Smith in the 5th. Needless to say, that plan was thrown out the window when my pick arrived. I had a feeling the Browns wanted Geno Smith but thought the Browns would aim to take him in the 5th. I also wasn't expecting... somebody else to be available and passing on him may not be the best move. However, I really want to take a young edge rusher while they're still available so I'm opting for Brandon Graham. Like Calais and Dareus, he is scheme-versatile and allows me to play in multiple fronts.

Ha! I knew I couldn't wait on Geno.Anyways great pick with Graham. He had limited snaps last season but at the end of the season when they gave him more, he delivered.

 

[RBM]

Just looked at Dalton's first two years of stats v. Flacco's 1st two years.Put this up to a shark pool vote....Flacco/Hardy v. Dalton/Watt

Hardy?

 

[AwesomeAuger]

4.25 Chiefs select Brandon Graham, DE/OLBSorry about the delay (for me it's a delay!). As my pick was approaching, I was planning on going Timmons in the 4th and Geno Smith in the 5th. Needless to say, that plan was thrown out the window when my pick arrived. I had a feeling the Browns wanted Geno Smith but thought the Browns would aim to take him in the 5th. I also wasn't expecting... somebody else to be available and passing on him may not be the best move. However, I really want to take a young edge rusher while they're still available so I'm opting for Brandon Graham. Like Calais and Dareus, he is scheme-versatile and allows me to play in multiple fronts.

Ha! I knew I couldn't wait on Geno.Anyways great pick with Graham. He had limited snaps last season but at the end of the season when they gave him more, he delivered.

I really thought you'd wait to round 5! I really wanted Geno but I wasn't going to use a third round pick on him. The "Geno Smith" line of where I would or would not take him was that I wouldn't pass on a young stud for him. I don't watch college football so I can't make a judgment myself about him with any confidence and have to rely on what I read. Geno Smith appears to be a good, young gamble at the most important position so I would take him above non-qbs that were also "young gambles" or good players in their twilight.

 

[HellToupee]

4.25 Chiefs select Brandon Graham, DE/OLBSorry about the delay (for me it's a delay!). As my pick was approaching, I was planning on going Timmons in the 4th and Geno Smith in the 5th. Needless to say, that plan was thrown out the window when my pick arrived. I had a feeling the Browns wanted Geno Smith but thought the Browns would aim to take him in the 5th. I also wasn't expecting... somebody else to be available and passing on him may not be the best move. However, I really want to take a young edge rusher while they're still available so I'm opting for Brandon Graham. Like Calais and Dareus, he is scheme-versatile and allows me to play in multiple fronts.

Ha! I knew I couldn't wait on Geno.Anyways great pick with Graham. He had limited snaps last season but at the end of the season when they gave him more, he delivered.

I really thought you'd wait to round 5! I really wanted Geno but I wasn't going to use a third round pick on him. The "Geno Smith" line of where I would or would not take him was that I wouldn't pass on a young stud for him. I don't watch college football so I can't make a judgment myself about him with any confidence and have to rely on what I read. Geno Smith appears to be a good, young gamble at the most important position so I would take him above non-qbs that were also "young gambles" or good players in their twilight.

To play devils advocate :I'm not so sure Geno is even the best prospect in this weak QB class

 

[AwesomeAuger]

4.25 Chiefs select Brandon Graham, DE/OLBSorry about the delay (for me it's a delay!). As my pick was approaching, I was planning on going Timmons in the 4th and Geno Smith in the 5th. Needless to say, that plan was thrown out the window when my pick arrived. I had a feeling the Browns wanted Geno Smith but thought the Browns would aim to take him in the 5th. I also wasn't expecting... somebody else to be available and passing on him may not be the best move. However, I really want to take a young edge rusher while they're still available so I'm opting for Brandon Graham. Like Calais and Dareus, he is scheme-versatile and allows me to play in multiple fronts.

Ha! I knew I couldn't wait on Geno.Anyways great pick with Graham. He had limited snaps last season but at the end of the season when they gave him more, he delivered.

I really thought you'd wait to round 5! I really wanted Geno but I wasn't going to use a third round pick on him. The "Geno Smith" line of where I would or would not take him was that I wouldn't pass on a young stud for him. I don't watch college football so I can't make a judgment myself about him with any confidence and have to rely on what I read. Geno Smith appears to be a good, young gamble at the most important position so I would take him above non-qbs that were also "young gambles" or good players in their twilight.

To play devils advocate :I'm not so sure Geno is even the best prospect in this weak QB class

True. Exalted may have saved my franchise!

 

[ExaltedOne]

Just because this class isn't ridiculous like 2012 does not mean it's weak. I believe Geno is the best of the class and it's not close IMO.

 

[RBM]

4.26 Buffalo Bills - Marshall Yanda, OG

Building a monster o-line. Firm believer in the lines being more important than the skill positions.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

What if you had taken ADP at 1.26? Your ground game would be incredible.

 

[RBM]

Just because this class isn't ridiculous like 2012 does not mean it's weak. I believe Geno is the best of the class and it's not close IMO.

Oh stop....this is a very weak qb class. Very rare to not see a qb go in the top 5. We may not see one go in the top 10.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Just because this class isn't ridiculous like 2012 does not mean it's weak. I believe Geno is the best of the class and it's not close IMO.

Oh stop....this is a very weak qb class. Very rare to not see a qb go in the top 5. We may not see one go in the top 10.

I'd list the great QBs that didn't go top 10 in the NFL draft, but you drafted Flacco.2011 had 4 QBs go in the top 12. Is that a great class?

 

[ExaltedOne]

Of the first 9 QBs taken in this draft (top 10 picks), only 3 (Luck, RG3, Cam) were taken in the top 10 of the NFL draft.

 

[RBM]

Just because this class isn't ridiculous like 2012 does not mean it's weak. I believe Geno is the best of the class and it's not close IMO.

Oh stop....this is a very weak qb class. Very rare to not see a qb go in the top 5. We may not see one go in the top 10.

I'd list the great QBs that didn't go top 10 in the NFL draft, but you drafted Flacco.2011 had 4 QBs go in the top 12. Is that a great class?

No but the only way we can evaluate these guys is where they get drafted until they step on a field. How are we supposed to evaluate your team with a guy who has never played a down as your starting qb?

 

[HellToupee]

Of the first 9 QBs taken in this draft (top 10 picks), only 3 (Luck, RG3, Cam) were taken in the top 10 of the NFL draft.

 

[RBM]

Of the first 9 QBs taken in this draft (top 10 picks), only 3 (Luck, RG3, Cam) were taken in the top 10 of the NFL draft.

You are not following. I meant the only way to evaluate this qb class as of right now is to see where they get drafted. Their potential according to NFL front offices. Normally front offices will jump on qbs early in the draft. I think it's telling that this class may not have anyone worth jumping on early. This in response to your ridiculous claim that its not a weak class. Not sure how else to spell it out for you.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Just because this class isn't ridiculous like 2012 does not mean it's weak. I believe Geno is the best of the class and it's not close IMO.

Oh stop....this is a very weak qb class. Very rare to not see a qb go in the top 5. We may not see one go in the top 10.

I'd list the great QBs that didn't go top 10 in the NFL draft, but you drafted Flacco.2011 had 4 QBs go in the top 12. Is that a great class?

No but the only way we can evaluate these guys is where they get drafted until they step on a field. How are we supposed to evaluate your team with a guy who has never played a down as your starting qb?

To make matters worse, we don't even know when he'll get drafted! There's still talk that he could go to the Chiefs at 1 (yes even with Alex Smith). Jacksonville, Oakland, Phily, Cleveland, Arizona, Buffalo, and New York are all in need of a QB. If he is a top 10 pick, does that really change your opinion of him?It's a roll of the dice. Like the guys who took rookie tackles, we don't know if they'll be great or if they are the next Jason Smith and Mike Williams. What we actually CAN look at right now for Geno is 1) his college stats, which I posted above and which are very good, 2) film or at least highlights. I think you'll be pleased with them, 3) expert analysis, plenty of this out there, and 4) the situation he'll be in on my team.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Of the first 9 QBs taken in this draft (top 10 picks), only 3 (Luck, RG3, Cam) were taken in the top 10 of the NFL draft.

My point is NFL draft position does not have a direct correlation to NFL success. Yes, even the NFL scouts get it wrong. How many teams passed on Aaron Rodgers? And every team passed on Brady and Brees.

 

[RBM]

Wow...Mel Kiper top 25 big board......0 quarterbacks.

Not sure I've ever seen that. But it's not a weak class

Todd McShays top 32 with a grand total of 1 quarterback. Geno coming in at 22.