FUBAR
Footballguy
I figured I could afford it and need the veteran presence with two rookie DBs - Vaccaro and Rhodes, can learn from him.
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RBM
Footballguy
14.6 Bears - Antoine Cason, CB
QB Joe Flacco
WR Greg Jennings
WR Sidney Rice
LT Trent Williams
LG Willie Colon
C Alex Mack
RT DJ Fluker
DE Chris Long
DT Phil Taylor
DT Brandon Mebane
DE Quinton Coples
LB Jerrod Mayo
CB Cortland Finnegan
CB Antoine Cason
QB Joe Flacco
WR Greg Jennings
WR Sidney Rice
LT Trent Williams
LG Willie Colon
C Alex Mack
RT DJ Fluker
DE Chris Long
DT Phil Taylor
DT Brandon Mebane
DE Quinton Coples
LB Jerrod Mayo
CB Cortland Finnegan
CB Antoine Cason
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Instinctive
Footballguy
Rams 14.7 select Danario Alexander, WR
Instinctive
Footballguy
P.s. on phone can't pm
FUBAR
Footballguy
He's been on my "consider taking this round" list for A few rounds now.
Nucker101
Footballguy
I thought about neglecting my 2nd WR so that I could get him in round 15 or 16, so I'm glad I too Moore. Alexander is a a steal here when he's healthy. It's a risky choice, but I like the pick.
FUBAR
Footballguy
At this point they all have warts. Just have to choose our warts
HellToupee
Footballguy
just got in pick coming in 10 minutes
Instinctive
Footballguy
Just fyi - I do not want PMs. They're useless. If I get onto FBG, I'm checkin this thread. The only thing that's going to give me a heads up is a text.
Please do not send PMs, they're just a pain in the ### to go delete and delay my pick.
Please do not send PMs, they're just a pain in the ### to go delete and delay my pick.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Same here. I haven't checked my in box much
HellToupee
Footballguy
14.08 Bernard Pierce RB Steelers
could be early but I don't want to gamble .
could be early but I don't want to gamble .
RBM
Footballguy
Ditto
Nucker101
Footballguy
I guess it's something you can't judge until a few years from now depending on when that player starts.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Our ratings right now don't mean much anyway
Bamac
Footballguy
I definitely would have considered him if he fell to me this round.
HellToupee
Footballguy
How do you evaluate any of the players that haven't even played a down of NFL football ??
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
He's yours.
gandalas
Footballguy
thanks
Wu-banger
Footballguy
But we assume most of those players drafted will get major playing time and start ......few won't .We know Cousins and such are backups when picked ...that's the difference.Always fun to revisit the teams a few years down the road .
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Picking these teams is tough because ideally you pick solely on what makes your team best in this hypothetical situation. However, I can't help but be a little biased to choosing players who will produce in reality and should produce in reality for years to come. If we look back at this on 3 years, we will of course use the results in what happened in reality to judge the teams. However, in this alternate reality, maybe the results would be different for players.
For example, maybe in 3 years Josh Freeman is out of this league due to poor play. However, in the alternate universe we are drafting in, maybe he becomes a star with Calvin, Wallace, and Tavon Austin to throw to.
For example, maybe in 3 years Josh Freeman is out of this league due to poor play. However, in the alternate universe we are drafting in, maybe he becomes a star with Calvin, Wallace, and Tavon Austin to throw to.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Great point.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Following up on the post, I think this potential difference is only significant affect with young players who are not established and have not reached (or have clearly not failed to reach) close to their potential. This difference is caused by difference in coaching and scheme in the two realities. I used Josh Freeman as an example in my last post because his situation in these two universes are so different.
With established players, while coaching/scheme differences may matter some, in most cases it won't greatly affect the perception of the player. Fitz is obviously a huge talent and despite being on a horrible Arizona offense, he is universally considered a top receiver in the game. On the other end of the spectrum, Alex Smith had great success in 2011 with the 49ers and almost took the team to the SB. Nobody will deny he played well within the system but Smith was put in a good position to succeed and had clear limitations.
With established players, while coaching/scheme differences may matter some, in most cases it won't greatly affect the perception of the player. Fitz is obviously a huge talent and despite being on a horrible Arizona offense, he is universally considered a top receiver in the game. On the other end of the spectrum, Alex Smith had great success in 2011 with the 49ers and almost took the team to the SB. Nobody will deny he played well within the system but Smith was put in a good position to succeed and had clear limitations.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Not if we go 53 rounds.But we assume most of those players drafted will get major playing time and start ......few won't .We know Cousins and such are backups when picked ...that's the difference.
Always fun to revisit the teams a few years down the road .
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
If you mean the corner from Mississippi State, his name is spelled Johnthan, just so we're clear.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
14.12 Cincinnati Bengals select Arthur Brown, LB
The rangy K-State senior linebacker answered a lot of questions this offseason measuring over 240 lbs and running the 40 under 4.6. I think he compares favorably to some of last year's rookie linebackers like Luke Keuchly, Lavonte David, and Bobby Wagner. He'll be a great fit for this multiple defense, playing inside or weakside in the 4-3 and inside in the 3-4.
Offense
1.12 QB Matt Ryan
6.12 RB Arian Foster
3.21 WR Michael Crabtree
11.21 TE Greg Olsen
2.21 LT Ryan Clady
8.12 LG Andy Levitre
12.12 RG Zane Beadles
Defense
4.12 DL Corey Liuget
5.21 DL Carlos Dunlap
7.21 DE/OLB Dion Jordan
9.21 DE/OLB Barkevious Mingo
14.12 LB Arthur Brown
10.12 CB Vontae Davis
13.21 FS Stevie Brown
The rangy K-State senior linebacker answered a lot of questions this offseason measuring over 240 lbs and running the 40 under 4.6. I think he compares favorably to some of last year's rookie linebackers like Luke Keuchly, Lavonte David, and Bobby Wagner. He'll be a great fit for this multiple defense, playing inside or weakside in the 4-3 and inside in the 3-4.
Offense
1.12 QB Matt Ryan
6.12 RB Arian Foster
3.21 WR Michael Crabtree
11.21 TE Greg Olsen
2.21 LT Ryan Clady
8.12 LG Andy Levitre
12.12 RG Zane Beadles
Defense
4.12 DL Corey Liuget
5.21 DL Carlos Dunlap
7.21 DE/OLB Dion Jordan
9.21 DE/OLB Barkevious Mingo
14.12 LB Arthur Brown
10.12 CB Vontae Davis
13.21 FS Stevie Brown
FUBAR
Footballguy
Favorably to Kuechly? I happen to like Brown, strongly considered him for the Titans a few picks ago, but he's not predicted to be a better player than Kuechly was.
14.13 Patriots Select Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
I had my sites set on John Jenkins later in the draft. When I saw Big John go before Jesse Williams, I knew it was the time to grab this guy. Has played DE and NT in the 3-4 at the college level. Seems like an ideal 3-4 guy who can play the Nose or the 5 technique and can also play on nickel packages.
The Patriots
Eli Manning
Desean Jackson
Stevie Johnson
Jimmy Graham
DBrickashaw Ferguson
Mitchell Schwartz
Donald Thomas
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Jesse Williams
Justin Houston
Bruce Irvin
Lance Briggs
Asante Samuel
Corey Webster
Bernard Pollard
I had my sites set on John Jenkins later in the draft. When I saw Big John go before Jesse Williams, I knew it was the time to grab this guy. Has played DE and NT in the 3-4 at the college level. Seems like an ideal 3-4 guy who can play the Nose or the 5 technique and can also play on nickel packages.
The Patriots
Eli Manning
Desean Jackson
Stevie Johnson
Jimmy Graham
DBrickashaw Ferguson
Mitchell Schwartz
Donald Thomas
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Jesse Williams
Justin Houston
Bruce Irvin
Lance Briggs
Asante Samuel
Corey Webster
Bernard Pollard
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I meant that he compares similar to him, not better. Maybe I used the wrong phrasing.
RBM
Footballguy
3 rookies on D with really no established vet. Don't see how you will compete. Nice offense though.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
There are still plenty of old guys out there.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Year one, if this were a real league, I agree. Building for the future, he has potential to dominate. Also depends how you want to look at the teams; it's entirely possible that all 3 of his rookies become pro-bowlers and his D looks dominant on paper while if they were to play together, they'd struggle for years.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I'm also not nearly done on defense. Plenty of spots still open for veteran leaders. I have lots of guys on my board who fit that bill.
HellToupee
Footballguy
C'mon man
HellToupee
Footballguy
3 rookie LBs & an out of place Dunlap in a 34 works in fantasy football but not in real life
Nucker101
Footballguy
14.14 Oakland Raiders Select Kerry Rhodes, Safety
Little surprised that this guy's still available since he's not that old and still one of the better safeties in the NFL IMO. He and another player are at the top of my BPA board, but I decided to draft Rhodes since I haven't drafted one safety yet. Should also give this team a veteran presence in the secondary.
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - Doug Martin
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Denarius Moore
TE - Dustin Keller
OT - Jordan Gross
OG - Chris Snee
OT - Donald Penn
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Da'Quan Bowers
OLB - Ahmad Brooks
CB - Prince Amukamara
CB - Aqib Talib
S - Kerry Rhodes
Little surprised that this guy's still available since he's not that old and still one of the better safeties in the NFL IMO. He and another player are at the top of my BPA board, but I decided to draft Rhodes since I haven't drafted one safety yet. Should also give this team a veteran presence in the secondary.
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - Doug Martin
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Denarius Moore
TE - Dustin Keller
OT - Jordan Gross
OG - Chris Snee
OT - Donald Penn
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Da'Quan Bowers
OLB - Ahmad Brooks
CB - Prince Amukamara
CB - Aqib Talib
S - Kerry Rhodes
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
1. Not running a 3-4 all the time2. Talented/young players trumps experienced players in the NFL, see all the vets being released this offseason
14.15 Cardinals select Larry Warford, G
We've got a nice run on rookies going so who am I to mess that up? Never saw this guy play but from what I've read he sounds like a pretty safe prospect at G. His NFL comparisons have been Yanda and Waters so I figure that can't be too bad.
Offense:
6.15 Jason Peters, LT
7.18 Rodger Saffold, RT
9.18 Brian De La Puente, C
10.15 Cecil Shorts, WR
11.18 Keenan Allen, WR
14.15 Larry Warford, RG
Defense:
1.15 Geno Atkins, RE
2.18 Muhammad Wilkerson, LE
3.18 Daryl Washington, ILB
4.15 Ryan Kerrigan, OLB
5.18 Brandon Carr, CB
8.15 Star Lotulelei, NT
12.15 Thomas DeCoud, FS
13.18 Reggie Nelson, SS
We've got a nice run on rookies going so who am I to mess that up? Never saw this guy play but from what I've read he sounds like a pretty safe prospect at G. His NFL comparisons have been Yanda and Waters so I figure that can't be too bad.
Offense:
6.15 Jason Peters, LT
7.18 Rodger Saffold, RT
9.18 Brian De La Puente, C
10.15 Cecil Shorts, WR
11.18 Keenan Allen, WR
14.15 Larry Warford, RG
Defense:
1.15 Geno Atkins, RE
2.18 Muhammad Wilkerson, LE
3.18 Daryl Washington, ILB
4.15 Ryan Kerrigan, OLB
5.18 Brandon Carr, CB
8.15 Star Lotulelei, NT
12.15 Thomas DeCoud, FS
13.18 Reggie Nelson, SS
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That's probably more because of the rookie wage scale and veteran salaries that are higher than a player's market value. I don't think that applies as much in this format.
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Meecrob
Footballguy
Noted and adjusted for illiteracy.
RBM
Footballguy
Nice defense.
