Carnell "Cadillac" Williams to practice Wednesday (1 Viewer)

[3C's]

Jim Flynn from the PR chat last night when asked about Caddy.

Cadillac is practicing with the Bucs. The team has two weeks to decide on what to do with him (place him on IR or activate him). I still think Tampa Bay will place Williams on injured reserve simply because they don't really need him right now.

Could they possibly need him though? Graham playing FB some. Dunn with the pinched nerve.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Jim Flynn from the PR chat last night when asked about Caddy.

Cadillac is practicing with the Bucs. The team has two weeks to decide on what to do with him (place him on IR or activate him). I still think Tampa Bay will place Williams on injured reserve simply because they don't really need him right now.

Could they possibly need him though? Graham playing FB some. Dunn with the pinched nerve.

This was my thinking. Not so much the Graham playing FB, since they signed Jameel Cook, and B.J. Askew could be back this weekend. I am more concerned about Dunn, and his health going forward. It may not be a major issue, but with older players you always have to be concerned about when they may break down. Bennet is still on the roster, but he hasn't seen much action at all this season.A little tid bit for owners of Graham, and Dunn. Pay close attention to whether or not B.J. Askew is starting. He makes a huge impact in the run game, and was a huge part of EG's success last season.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I really don't understand why people keep saying that the Bucs don't really need Caddy right now. Since when does a team not need their #1 running back in action? Warrick Dunn is old, and banged up. Graham needs to be playing fullback. The best thing that could happen to the Bucs is to bring Caddy back as the #1 HB, Graham at FB, and Dunn as a 3rd down back.

 

[Steel Town]

Is Dunn still nursing that back injury?

 

[QUEZILLA]

I really don't understand why people keep saying that the Bucs don't really need Caddy right now. Since when does a team not need their #1 running back in action? Warrick Dunn is old, and banged up. Graham needs to be playing fullback. The best thing that could happen to the Bucs is to bring Caddy back as the #1 HB, Graham at FB, and Dunn as a 3rd down back.

Graham was only playing FB because Askew was hurt. BJ Askew, the FB, needs to be playing FB.

 

[Topes]

I really don't understand why people keep saying that the Bucs don't really need Caddy right now. Since when does a team not need their #1 running back in action? Warrick Dunn is old, and banged up. Graham needs to be playing fullback. The best thing that could happen to the Bucs is to bring Caddy back as the #1 HB, Graham at FB, and Dunn as a 3rd down back.

Couldn't agree more. As a Graham owner, this is disconcerting.Don't need him? The Bucs aren't playing for next year. If they were 1-7, I could agree that they don't need him. But they're in contention. All hands on deck. Putting a healthy Williams on IR because they "don't need him" is absurd.As a former Cadillac owner, OTOH, I wonder whether he's got anything left in the tank. In hazy hindsight, it seems he expended all he has in the tank in his first two NFL games, and has been on life support since.

 

[dmac37]

I really don't understand why people keep saying that the Bucs don't really need Caddy right now. Since when does a team not need their #1 running back in action? Warrick Dunn is old, and banged up. Graham needs to be playing fullback. The best thing that could happen to the Bucs is to bring Caddy back as the #1 HB, Graham at FB, and Dunn as a 3rd down back.

Graham was only playing FB because Askew was hurt. BJ Askew, the FB, needs to be playing FB.

When is Askew due back?

 

[moderated]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

 

[beavers]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I really don't understand why people keep saying that the Bucs don't really need Caddy right now. Since when does a team not need their #1 running back in action? Warrick Dunn is old, and banged up. Graham needs to be playing fullback. The best thing that could happen to the Bucs is to bring Caddy back as the #1 HB, Graham at FB, and Dunn as a 3rd down back.

Graham was only playing FB because Askew was hurt. BJ Askew, the FB, needs to be playing FB.

When is Askew due back?

Probably this weekend.

 

[gman8343]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

Was McGahee's worse? That took him over a year but he came back and has done pretty well.

 

[zamboni]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Seems like the days of RBs not fully recovering from their injuries within a year are not always the case. We've seen it from Deuce, Ronnie Brown, and others. Maybe it's not the same thing with Caddy's injury, and his body isn't the same, but it may be premature to dismiss his chances based upon the injury alone.

 

[beavers]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

Was McGahee's worse? That took him over a year but he came back and has done pretty well.

What about Carson Palmer? Culpepper?

 

[cstu]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

I did a lot of reading about his injury and while tearing the patellar tendon is an uncommon injury, the prognosis for 100% recovery (*for athletes) is actually very good if the surgery was done immediately after the injury.

 

[AKA]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

Was McGahee's worse? That took him over a year but he came back and has done pretty well.

What about Carson Palmer? Culpepper?

Palmer never missed a beat........Culpepper had some problems gettting back

 

[QUEZILLA]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

Was McGahee's worse? That took him over a year but he came back and has done pretty well.

What about Carson Palmer? Culpepper?

Palmer never missed a beat........Culpepper had some problems gettting back

Wasn't C-Pep rehabbing in a a strip mall parking lot? Everything I have read about Caddy has said he was following the text book rehab the team planned for him.

 

[AB in DC]

This feels like the Ricky Williams situation last year in Miami -- he was on the active roster, but only as a backup since he was away from football for so long that he wasn't at his best.

 

[Bermuda_Chub]

I owned Caddy his rookie year, and I've got nothing but love for him. I hope he tears it up for someone else's fantasy team.

 

[beavers]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

Was McGahee's worse? That took him over a year but he came back and has done pretty well.

What about Carson Palmer? Culpepper?

Palmer never missed a beat........Culpepper had some problems gettting back

Palmer has never been the same since the surgery.

 

[Cookiemonster]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

I did a lot of reading about his injury and while tearing the patellar tendon is an uncommon injury, the prognosis for 100% recovery (*for athletes) is actually very good if the surgery was done immediately after the injury.

Thank-you! Not the same as Plamer/CPep. Same as A.Green. Green came back w/ a top 10 year following his patellar tendon. Fell off a cliff afterwards, but he did have another good year.

 

[AKA]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

That's what I have been thinking as well. Caddy tore up his knee pretty good. I remember there was talk when it happened, that his career was most likely over. If it was a "normal" knee injury / surgery, then he would be back already.

Was McGahee's worse? That took him over a year but he came back and has done pretty well.

What about Carson Palmer? Culpepper?

Palmer never missed a beat........Culpepper had some problems gettting back

Palmer has never been the same since the surgery.

His Numbers were last year were in line with his career numbers and this year has nothing to do with his surgery......not sure what you are talking about?

 

[dgreen]

So what's the TB RB situation look like for this week? With KC coming up, could we see a huge day from Graham?

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

All of the Caddy news has disappeared.

 

[Osaurus]

Quez has some Caddy love

Update?

 

[QUEZILLA]

Quez has some Caddy love Update?

No update other than Gruden dodging a few questions Monday, saying "he will be back." He wasn't necessarily talking about this season though.

 

[Nate]

I really don't understand why people keep saying that the Bucs don't really need Caddy right now. Since when does a team not need their #1 running back in action? Warrick Dunn is old, and banged up. Graham needs to be playing fullback. The best thing that could happen to the Bucs is to bring Caddy back as the #1 HB, Graham at FB, and Dunn as a 3rd down back.

Graham was only playing FB because Askew was hurt. BJ Askew, the FB, needs to be playing FB.

 

[Nate]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Yes, you're right, there's no possibility that a running back who hasn't taken a snap in over a year might return halfway through a season and perform at anything less than his full potential.

Wow.

Nevermind that he'll be competing for touches with two guys in midseason form.

I hope Caddy gets on the field and I think he'll be an asset to the Bucs but that is one crowded backfield and Caddy has been out a very long time. Don't go trading Torain away for him just yet

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Yes, you're right, there's no possibility that a running back who hasn't taken a snap in over a year might return halfway through a season and perform at anything less than his full potential.

Wow.

Nevermind that he'll be competing for touches with two guys in midseason form.

I hope Caddy gets on the field and I think he'll be an asset to the Bucs but that is one crowded backfield and Caddy has been out a very long time. Don't go trading Torain away for him just yet :X

I think that you need to dust up on your reading comprehension.My post was in response to someone saying "Most likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was". I wasn't even talking about his return this year in that post. Next time... pay attention and it will save you time. I do think that it is possible for him to return at 100% this year though... but I wouldn't put money on it. I do believe that it is entirely possible that Caddy can return to 100% of what he was in the future... just as I stated. Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

 

[Nate]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Yes, you're right, there's no possibility that a running back who hasn't taken a snap in over a year might return halfway through a season and perform at anything less than his full potential.

Wow.

Nevermind that he'll be competing for touches with two guys in midseason form.

I hope Caddy gets on the field and I think he'll be an asset to the Bucs but that is one crowded backfield and Caddy has been out a very long time. Don't go trading Torain away for him just yet

I think that you need to dust up on your reading comprehension.My post was in response to someone saying "Most likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was". I wasn't even talking about his return this year in that post. Next time... pay attention and it will save you time. I do think that it is possible for him to return at 100% this year though... but I wouldn't put money on it. I do believe that it is entirely possible that Caddy can return to 100% of what he was in the future... just as I stated. Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

What are you blathering on about, son? You, nor the poster you were replying to, said anything at all about next season. Read your own posts:

I grabbed him today... don't listen to all of the people saying that he is finished this year. They are the types of people who wait until the last second to grab someone... and they are already gone.

If Caddy was finished this year, they wouldn't bother having him practice. He has been working out like crazy, and from what I heard.... he looks good running. It has been well over a year since he injured his knee. Plenty of time.

he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality.

 

[Da Guru]

I would not count on restored Caddy until next season.

Even then it may not be like the new Caddy was.

 

[Sam Quentin]

All of the Caddy news has disappeared.

I see this as a plus as we are not hearing about setbacks, swelling or draining.

 

[moderated]

Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

How is that absurd? I'd bet that the odds are higher that he never has a meaningful football season again then that he returns to put up a 1,200+ yard rushing season.If he ever rushes for over 800 yards in a season again i'll be shocked.

 

[Sam Quentin]

In addition, Bucs RB Cadillac Williams participated in practice and Gruden liked what he saw. “We had a 12 play simulation of the Chiefs,” Gruden said. “We did the best we could and Carnell took about 10 or 11 straight plays. It’s exciting to see him out there, but not only see him out there, but the progress. He really looked good today. Next week during the bye week, we’ll put the pads on and try to make it a little more tough, but step two went well today.”

 

[QUEZILLA]

In addition, Bucs RB Cadillac Williams participated in practice and Gruden liked what he saw. “We had a 12 play simulation of the Chiefs,” Gruden said. “We did the best we could and Carnell took about 10 or 11 straight plays. It’s exciting to see him out there, but not only see him out there, but the progress. He really looked good today. Next week during the bye week, we’ll put the pads on and try to make it a little more tough, but step two went well today.”

Thanks for the update. Glad to see they are not rushing him.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Yes, you're right, there's no possibility that a running back who hasn't taken a snap in over a year might return halfway through a season and perform at anything less than his full potential.

Wow.

Nevermind that he'll be competing for touches with two guys in midseason form.

I hope Caddy gets on the field and I think he'll be an asset to the Bucs but that is one crowded backfield and Caddy has been out a very long time. Don't go trading Torain away for him just yet

I think that you need to dust up on your reading comprehension.My post was in response to someone saying "Most likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was". I wasn't even talking about his return this year in that post. Next time... pay attention and it will save you time. I do think that it is possible for him to return at 100% this year though... but I wouldn't put money on it. I do believe that it is entirely possible that Caddy can return to 100% of what he was in the future... just as I stated. Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

What are you blathering on about, son? You, nor the poster you were replying to, said anything at all about next season. Read your own posts:

I grabbed him today... don't listen to all of the people saying that he is finished this year. They are the types of people who wait until the last second to grab someone... and they are already gone.

If Caddy was finished this year, they wouldn't bother having him practice. He has been working out like crazy, and from what I heard.... he looks good running. It has been well over a year since he injured his knee. Plenty of time.

he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality.

Obviously you still haven't brushed up on your reading comprehension. I said that he has had over a year to recover. That doesn't mean that I was saying that it is absurd to believe that he will be anything less than 100% this year. Nothing like reading something, and turning it into whatever you need it to be.I certainly said that he could return this year. Of course he could. Not 100% positive that he will.

I will say it one more time, in nice BIG letters for you.

THE POSTER THAT I RESPONDED TO MADE THE COMMENT THAT CADDY WILL NEVER BE EVEN 50% OF WHAT HE WAS.

I replied explaining this......

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Now... to give you further help. You clearly read into my response as if I was saying that he would come back directly being 100% of what he was. I have explained to you that is not what I was saying... I was responded to the "EVER" comment. Do I think that Caddy could come back this year? Yes. Could he possible come back THIS YEAR being 100% of what he was. Possibly, yes. Would I bet on it right away? No. Besides that... even if you misread, and believed that I meant this year he would be 100%... you still need to brush up your reading comprehension... because I clearly said that he "CAN"... not that he will. Mull that over for a few days. Pass it around to your smartest friends, and let them disect it for you... then get back with me.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

How is that absurd? I'd bet that the odds are higher that he never has a meaningful football season again then that he returns to put up a 1,200+ yard rushing season.If he ever rushes for over 800 yards in a season again i'll be shocked.

Obviously you guys have been in the dark for quite some time. This is 2008. People come back from knee injuries all of the time. Did you guys happen to see what happened to Willis McGahee's knee when it was injured? He had a pretty damn good year last year, didn't he? Ever heard of Deuce?

 

[Nate]

a 100% healthy Caddy hasn't existed since a quarter way through his rookie season, so please when discussing Caddy let's use a 70%ish of what he once was as a high point rating and even that is being kind. More likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was.

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Yes, you're right, there's no possibility that a running back who hasn't taken a snap in over a year might return halfway through a season and perform at anything less than his full potential.

Wow.

Nevermind that he'll be competing for touches with two guys in midseason form.

I hope Caddy gets on the field and I think he'll be an asset to the Bucs but that is one crowded backfield and Caddy has been out a very long time. Don't go trading Torain away for him just yet

I think that you need to dust up on your reading comprehension.My post was in response to someone saying "Most likely he'll never even get to 50% of what he was". I wasn't even talking about his return this year in that post. Next time... pay attention and it will save you time. I do think that it is possible for him to return at 100% this year though... but I wouldn't put money on it. I do believe that it is entirely possible that Caddy can return to 100% of what he was in the future... just as I stated. Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

What are you blathering on about, son? You, nor the poster you were replying to, said anything at all about next season. Read your own posts:

I grabbed him today... don't listen to all of the people saying that he is finished this year. They are the types of people who wait until the last second to grab someone... and they are already gone.

If Caddy was finished this year, they wouldn't bother having him practice. He has been working out like crazy, and from what I heard.... he looks good running. It has been well over a year since he injured his knee. Plenty of time.

he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality.

Obviously you still haven't brushed up on your reading comprehension. I said that he has had over a year to recover. That doesn't mean that I was saying that it is absurd to believe that he will be anything less than 100% this year. Nothing like reading something, and turning it into whatever you need it to be.I certainly said that he could return this year. Of course he could. Not 100% positive that he will.

I will say it one more time, in nice BIG letters for you.

THE POSTER THAT I RESPONDED TO MADE THE COMMENT THAT CADDY WILL NEVER BE EVEN 50% OF WHAT HE WAS.

I replied explaining this......

I think that you are really underestimating the ability for a human body to recover from injury. Not only that... but we are talking about a professional athlete. On top of all of that... he has had over a year to recover. Caddy can return at 100% of what he was. His only possible setback would be his mentality. Whether or not he can run with the same intensity... and considering how hard he has worked to come back, I don't see a reason why we should question that either.

Now... to give you further help. You clearly read into my response as if I was saying that he would come back directly being 100% of what he was. I have explained to you that is not what I was saying... I was responded to the "EVER" comment. Do I think that Caddy could come back this year? Yes. Could he possible come back THIS YEAR being 100% of what he was. Possibly, yes. Would I bet on it right away? No. Besides that... even if you misread, and believed that I meant this year he would be 100%... you still need to brush up your reading comprehension... because I clearly said that he "CAN"... not that he will. Mull that over for a few days. Pass it around to your smartest friends, and let them disect it for you... then get back with me.

I didn't even read that whole tirade; but I'm sure my response would be the same. You need to calm down and not take this so seriously.

 

[Nate]

Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

How is that absurd? I'd bet that the odds are higher that he never has a meaningful football season again then that he returns to put up a 1,200+ yard rushing season.If he ever rushes for over 800 yards in a season again i'll be shocked.

Obviously you guys have been in the dark for quite some time. This is 2008. People come back from knee injuries all of the time. Did you guys happen to see what happened to Willis McGahee's knee when it was injured? He had a pretty damn good year last year, didn't he? Ever heard of Deuce?

Awesome. Don't worry everyone! WiDDoW_MaKeR is in the Shark Pool, here to shine a light into the dark we've been lurking in, and abuse his caps lock key.

 

[Cheesedawg]

Getting more bad news on McFadden has me really pulling for Caddy to make a comeback.

In addition, Bucs RB Cadillac Williams participated in practice and Gruden liked what he saw. “We had a 12 play simulation of the Chiefs,” Gruden said. “We did the best we could and Carnell took about 10 or 11 straight plays. It’s exciting to see him out there, but not only see him out there, but the progress. He really looked good today. Next week during the bye week, we’ll put the pads on and try to make it a little more tough, but step two went well today.”

Thanks for the update. Glad to see they are not rushing him.

 

[moderated]

Getting more bad news on McFadden has me really pulling for Caddy to make a comeback.

You'll get better odds playing the lottery.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Saying that he can't even return to be 50% of what he was is absurd.

How is that absurd? I'd bet that the odds are higher that he never has a meaningful football season again then that he returns to put up a 1,200+ yard rushing season.If he ever rushes for over 800 yards in a season again i'll be shocked.

Obviously you guys have been in the dark for quite some time. This is 2008. People come back from knee injuries all of the time. Did you guys happen to see what happened to Willis McGahee's knee when it was injured? He had a pretty damn good year last year, didn't he? Ever heard of Deuce?

Awesome. Don't worry everyone! WiDDoW_MaKeR is in the Shark Pool, here to shine a light into the dark we've been lurking in, and abuse his caps lock key.

:flashlight:

 

[Addai's Adidas]

I think it's important to note that he is practicing with the scout team, not with the starters.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I think it's important to note that he is practicing with the scout team, not with the starters.

Agreed, but I this is because the Bucs don't want to rush him back. Caddy wanted to go along time ago, but the Bucs want to make sure they don't rush him back, and risk a set back. Gruden said, "Next week during the bye week, we’ll put the pads on and try to make it a little more tough, but step two went well today." Sounds like they are sticking to a set schedule, but one has to wonder if they would do the same if we got very thin at RB.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Gruden's latest quote got this from buccaneers.com

And then there's Williams, who hasn't played since suffering a very serious knee injury at Carolina last September 30. His practice window at the tail end of his stint on the PUP list is about over, which means the Bucs will soon have to decide if he will be added to the 53-man roster. Gruden met with the determined back on Monday morning to go over his progress."He has a great look in his eye," said Gruden. "He is very confident, I think, in his knee and what he has put into this. We will see what Earnest and Warrick’s health status is and we will make that decision next week but there is a possibility that he can help us and that would be really exciting, I know that.”

 

[Texican]

 

[the hairy scotsman]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/foot...tml?eref=si_nfl

Bucs' 'Cadillac' ready to roll

Story Highlights

Williams has been sidelined more than 13 months

Head coach Jon Gruden said a final decision had not been made

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Carnell "Cadillac" Williams wore a smile that matched the enthusiasm in coach Jon Gruden's voice.

Tampa Bay's fourth-year running back feels he's "good to go" after being sidelined more than 13 months with a serious knee injury, and his coach is equally excited about his impending return.

The Buccaneers have until Wednesday to decide if Williams, who began the season on the physically unable to perform list, will be activated to the 53-man roster. Although Gruden said a decision had not been made, it sounded like the 2005 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year is back.

"We staged a couple of drills for Carnell Williams to get hit, and he responded to it. It's exciting," Gruden said Monday, when players went through a 90-minute workout in pads after not practicing at all during the team's bye week.

"I've said for a long time, it's almost like Christmas is here. Christmas is Wednesday, I hope. We'll see how he feels, talk to the trainer and medical people. If my eyes don't deceive me, I think he's got a chance to be a player this year for our team."

Williams hasn't played since Sept. 30, 2007 when he tore the patellar tendon in his right knee against the Carolina Panthers. He rushed for 1,178 yards as a rookie, but injuries have limited his production the past two seasons.

The 26-year-old welcomed Monday's contact drill and is confident he will be activated before practice Wednesday, even though Gruden cautioned it's too soon to expect Williams to resume a role as a featured back.

"I do feel like I can come in and help the team. ... I'm just looking to contribute any way I can," Williams said.

The timing of Williams' return is crucial because leading rusher Earnest Graham (knee) and five-time 1,000-yard rusher Warrick Dunn (back) are less than 100 percent. There's a chance both will play Sunday against Minnesota, although Gruden noted you can never have too much depth at running back.

"This guy's a very good back," Gruden said. "We have film to prove that."....

I just cut Kevin Faulk for him. WTH not? No big loss, & I need RBs badly.

 

[TommyGilmore]

I just cut Kevin Faulk for him. WTH not? No big loss, & I need RBs badly.

You need RBs badly so you cut a guy who's averaging 11.6 points over the past 6 weeks?

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I just cut Kevin Faulk for him. WTH not? No big loss, & I need RBs badly.

You need RBs badly so you cut a guy who's averaging 11.6 points over the past 6 weeks?

No.I have no idea why I typed Faulk. I had also just picked him upI meant Fred Jackson.It's been a long day already.

 

[renesauz]

Have my fingers crossed. Caddy has been lingering on my dynasty bench for over a year now after being my third (fourth?) round pick in last year's initial draft.

In a different, 16 team contest league, I recently picked him up praying he'd make it back. There were no RB's worthwhile on the WW and rosters got locked there this weekend.