Easily one of the lowest value guys out there with the highest upside. Not saying he will be, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me if he was a top 10 RB next season. He has the size, speed, and o-line necessary. He just has to get over this major hurdle of coming back from a severe injury.
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Carnell "Cadillac" Williams to practice Wednesday (1 Viewer)
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
This is the biggest positive for him, IMO, if he can get back to even close to 100%. (Well, that and the fact that Gruden would probably marry him if he could. He's got some serious manlust for Cadillac.)There are much worse guys to throw a Hail Mary on.
+10 carries against Minny
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I plucked Caddy (and Torain 
) off the waiver wire in a dynasty. Torain didn't work out so good, but Caddy has a shot. I'd like to see him eased into the lineup though and be ready to roll next season. Hopefully Gruden won't run him into the ground again.
) off the waiver wire in a dynasty. Torain didn't work out so good, but Caddy has a shot. I'd like to see him eased into the lineup though and be ready to roll next season. Hopefully Gruden won't run him into the ground again.
Brock Middlebrook
Footballguy
Can we change the title of this thread to be an official bandwagon thread?
I'm on board.
I'm on board.
I got on board last week, so I guess I'm driving.
I'm driving!I have a Caddy Fat Head, you ride shot gun. -I don't really have a Caddy Fat Head
PatrickT
Footballguy
Fine. Jeez.I got on board last week, so I guess I'm driving.
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
Denver has to consider snapping Bennett up
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Steel Town
Footballguy
That is a really good point. Bennett has to be better than Tatum. I think it would be a great "feel good" story for Bell to be picked up and released in the same week.Anonymous Internet User said:
Tanner9919
Footballguy
while its great that he's made it back to the ball field, its a bit premature to call him a top 10 RB next season.in fact..he hasn't shown us anything since turning pro.
has a career avg of 3.8 ypc..sounds like Errict Wrett to me...
his rushing yardage average per game in the 18 games from 2006 to 2007, was just 54.5 yards/gm, off some 30 yards/gm in 2005, his rookie season..and its not that the attempts were off by that much, he lost about 4 attempts per game since his rookie season ( in games he played in '06/'07)..
call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
PatrickT
Footballguy
I may be wrong, but wasn't Graham vulturing TDs that year? With Graham injured, and/or playing FB, that might not be the case, if he comes back 100%.while its great that he's made it back to the ball field, its a bit premature to call him a top 10 RB next season.in fact..he hasn't shown us anything since turning pro.
has a career avg of 3.8 ypc..sounds like Errict Wrett to me...
his rushing yardage average per game in the 18 games from 2006 to 2007, was just 54.5 yards/gm, off some 30 yards/gm in 2005, his rookie season..and its not that the attempts were off by that much, he lost about 4 attempts per game since his rookie season ( in games he played in '06/'07)..
call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
Capella
Footballguy
He didn't run him into the ground. It was a total freak injury.I plucked Caddy (and Torain) off the waiver wire in a dynasty. Torain didn't work out so good, but Caddy has a shot. I'd like to see him eased into the lineup though and be ready to roll next season. Hopefully Gruden won't run him into the ground again.
agree.Caddy has never been very good in the NFL, and now he's coming back from big injuries and people expect him to be what he never was even when healthy.while its great that he's made it back to the ball field, its a bit premature to call him a top 10 RB next season.in fact..he hasn't shown us anything since turning pro.
has a career avg of 3.8 ypc..sounds like Errict Wrett to me...
his rushing yardage average per game in the 18 games from 2006 to 2007, was just 54.5 yards/gm, off some 30 yards/gm in 2005, his rookie season..and its not that the attempts were off by that much, he lost about 4 attempts per game since his rookie season ( in games he played in '06/'07)..
call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
He's an enigma who's reputation is far better than what he is in reality.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Chargers claimed Michael Bennett off waivers from the Bucs, according to NFL Network's Adam Shefter.It's an odd fit, but the Bolts knew Denver was desperate for a running back and decided to block them. Denver indeed put in a claim, meaning Tatum Bell's stay with the team could have been brief. Instead, Bennett will rot on the Chargers bench. Nov. 12 - 6:03 pm et
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Buccaneers | Graham limited in practice WednesdayWed, 12 Nov 2008 15:52:31 -0800I may be wrong, but wasn't Graham vulturing TDs that year? With Graham injured, and/or playing FB, that might not be the case, if he comes back 100%.while its great that he's made it back to the ball field, its a bit premature to call him a top 10 RB next season.in fact..he hasn't shown us anything since turning pro.
has a career avg of 3.8 ypc..sounds like Errict Wrett to me...
his rushing yardage average per game in the 18 games from 2006 to 2007, was just 54.5 yards/gm, off some 30 yards/gm in 2005, his rookie season..and its not that the attempts were off by that much, he lost about 4 attempts per game since his rookie season ( in games he played in '06/'07)..
call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
Roy Cummings, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers RB Earnest Graham (knee) was limited in practice Wednesday, Nov. 12. He's probably going to be a game-time decision for the team's Week 11 game, but in all likelihood he will play.
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Buccaneers | Askew practices in full Wednesday
Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:52:02 -0800
Roy Cummings, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers FB B.J. Askew (hamstring) practiced in full Wednesday, Nov. 12. If he doesn't suffer a setback of any kind, he will probably be active for Week 11.
Most times Coaches treat players like meat - Gruden sure wants Caddy to come back and do well. Good for Williams I wish him well.
Of course Gruden might also feel a little guilty for running him raw his first year (I realize this injury was a fluke) but just saying... he may want some redemption either for Caddy or himself.
Quickly, as to Tatum Bell and Bennett - I'd think that had the Broncos picked up Bennett - the move to release a guy might have affected PJ Pope or Alex Haynes instead of Bell - they have less experience in both the game and the system and certainly don't have any past record to make them safe.
Of course Gruden might also feel a little guilty for running him raw his first year (I realize this injury was a fluke) but just saying... he may want some redemption either for Caddy or himself.
Quickly, as to Tatum Bell and Bennett - I'd think that had the Broncos picked up Bennett - the move to release a guy might have affected PJ Pope or Alex Haynes instead of Bell - they have less experience in both the game and the system and certainly don't have any past record to make them safe.
gump
Footballguy
I recall Jaws/Schlereth breaking down his running style his rookie season, and "oh"ing and "ah"ing about his ability to hit his top speed quickly and make cuts on a dime while still accelerating.Carnell certainly has not done anything to validate his draft position.He has been a slow learning blocker.He hasn't shown any potential as a receiver.And he hasn't been able to stay healthy for a season.But if you have ever watched him run, you see he has potential to be very good at that. Which is why Gruden loves him.
Not saying he will, but there is nobody valued as low as him right now that could potentially be valued as high as him next year. And, those stats don't mean anything, because the O-Line is completely different than it was when he first came in.while its great that he's made it back to the ball field, its a bit premature to call him a top 10 RB next season.in fact..he hasn't shown us anything since turning pro.
has a career avg of 3.8 ypc..sounds like Errict Wrett to me...
his rushing yardage average per game in the 18 games from 2006 to 2007, was just 54.5 yards/gm, off some 30 yards/gm in 2005, his rookie season..and its not that the attempts were off by that much, he lost about 4 attempts per game since his rookie season ( in games he played in '06/'07)..
call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
Ducegonads
Footballguy
You gotta pull for this guy to be as close to 100% as humanly possible. Football or no football.
Reminds me of former Patriot, Robert Edwards who had that awful injury on the beach after a super rookie season. Just seeing him play again after all the bad news and tough luck was a pretty cool. Even if it was for the Dolphins. I think he was out of football after that small comeback.
Reminds me of former Patriot, Robert Edwards who had that awful injury on the beach after a super rookie season. Just seeing him play again after all the bad news and tough luck was a pretty cool. Even if it was for the Dolphins. I think he was out of football after that small comeback.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I was talking about his rookie season.He didn't run him into the ground. It was a total freak injury.I plucked Caddy (and Torain) off the waiver wire in a dynasty. Torain didn't work out so good, but Caddy has a shot. I'd like to see him eased into the lineup though and be ready to roll next season. Hopefully Gruden won't run him into the ground again.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
It's always nice to see players come back from serious injuries and no matter which team you root for it's a great story. From potential career ending to being on the active roster?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Pretty sure Edwards headed to the CFL.It's always nice to see players come back from serious injuries and no matter which team you root for it's a great story. From potential career ending to being on the active roster?
Ducegonads
Footballguy
Short term, long term? Any success?Pretty sure Edwards headed to the CFL.
PatrickT
Footballguy
Let him get his sea legs vs Minny, then turn him loose vs Detroit.
SaintLouisCardinals
Footballguy
How many rushing touchdowns did Thomas Jones have last year in 16 games? I have been pretty excited having him on my team this year.call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
Sorry he hasn't performed up to your expectations. Go ahead and trade him for a 2nd round rookie pick while you can to spare yourself future headaches.
Main Force Patrol
Footballguy
People fail to notice the consistently fail to notice the changes in the Tampa O-line. Not sure if anyone noticed they added the best player in FA this season, or the fact that Aron Sears & Davin Joseph have developed into pretty decent guards. From what I hear a RB's success might have a little to do with the line he runs behind.How many rushing touchdowns did Thomas Jones have last year in 16 games? I have been pretty excited having him on my team this year.call me cruel, but I can't get too excited about a guy who played in 14 games in 2006 and scored just 1 td.. and 11 tds since turning pro..
satch
Footballguy
Nothing should be expected of Caddy this week. I'd like to see him get some carries, take some hits and shake off the cobwebs. I'd really like to see him get at least one decent run or reception just so we can guage his quickness/speed/agility. We won't really know much going into next week if all we get this week is 5 carries for 6 yards, though that wouldn't be shocking vs Minny.
Whatever happens this week, it's still going to be a tough situation to gauge. If Caddy looks good, Gruden will just say something like "We were encouraged by what we saw, and he'll probably see a few more carries next week". He's not going to come out and say "Caddy's our starter" after one game back.
This week, hopefully we get a look at Caddy, but obviously we can't use him for FF purposes. Next week, even though it's a great matchup vs Detroit, I still don't think we'll have enough info to make him a viable FF option. If he plays well vs Detroit, we may see Caddy start practicing as the starting RB with graham working at fullback, and Dunn as 3rd down back. It still wouldn't likely be announced that he's the starter vs New Orleans, but more of a RBBC situation.
Based on how he's used and how he performs vs NO, Gruden may then finally clarify their roles, naming Caddy the starter, with Graham the fullback and Dunn the change of pace guy.
In this scenario, it wouldn't be until wek 14 vs Carolina that you could start Caddy and have a good idea as to what to expect, which would hopefully be 15-20 carries, with Graham likely getting the GL carries, and Dunn getting a handfull of carries/receptions.
I'm excited about Caddy's value down the stretch, but the reality is that we still won't know for some time what that value is. We could very well see a full blown RBBC for the rest of the year. Or, we could see Caddy come back with a vengeance, reclaim the starting role, and be a viable RB1 tearing up the rest of an nice schedule with Graham happily moving back to FB and blazing paths.
Whatever happens this week, it's still going to be a tough situation to gauge. If Caddy looks good, Gruden will just say something like "We were encouraged by what we saw, and he'll probably see a few more carries next week". He's not going to come out and say "Caddy's our starter" after one game back.
This week, hopefully we get a look at Caddy, but obviously we can't use him for FF purposes. Next week, even though it's a great matchup vs Detroit, I still don't think we'll have enough info to make him a viable FF option. If he plays well vs Detroit, we may see Caddy start practicing as the starting RB with graham working at fullback, and Dunn as 3rd down back. It still wouldn't likely be announced that he's the starter vs New Orleans, but more of a RBBC situation.
Based on how he's used and how he performs vs NO, Gruden may then finally clarify their roles, naming Caddy the starter, with Graham the fullback and Dunn the change of pace guy.
In this scenario, it wouldn't be until wek 14 vs Carolina that you could start Caddy and have a good idea as to what to expect, which would hopefully be 15-20 carries, with Graham likely getting the GL carries, and Dunn getting a handfull of carries/receptions.
I'm excited about Caddy's value down the stretch, but the reality is that we still won't know for some time what that value is. We could very well see a full blown RBBC for the rest of the year. Or, we could see Caddy come back with a vengeance, reclaim the starting role, and be a viable RB1 tearing up the rest of an nice schedule with Graham happily moving back to FB and blazing paths.
I think Dunn is healthy, so this isn't too big of a surprise. FWIW, my cousin said he heard on the radio yesterday that someone mention Caddy was playing like he didn't have any balls, and favoring his healthy leg. I didn't personally hear this, so I didn't post anything. For all I know it could have been speculation.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I seriously doubt that they would have taken him off of the PUP list and dropped Bennett if that was the case.QUEZILLA said:
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Nah...the Bucs are the enemy so I'll keep him and probably even start him if this division race stays tight.
http://www.kffl.com/article.php/96735/512
Park the Caddy, folks: Tampa Bay Buccaneers back Cadillac Williams is not expected to dress for Week 11 and will continue to work with the practice squad for the near future. Our source says it will take a more severe injury to Earnest Graham (knee) or Warrick Dunn (back) before we see Cadillac in a chance to contribute in fantasy leagues. They see Williams as a bonus right now.
Park the Caddy, folks: Tampa Bay Buccaneers back Cadillac Williams is not expected to dress for Week 11 and will continue to work with the practice squad for the near future. Our source says it will take a more severe injury to Earnest Graham (knee) or Warrick Dunn (back) before we see Cadillac in a chance to contribute in fantasy leagues. They see Williams as a bonus right now.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
In the great Brown versus Williams debates on this board, Ronnie clearly won, but I am still pulling for Caddy to come back strong.
I stashed him on my bench in case he can help me in weeks 16 or 17, but I don't expect much from him and I wouldn't have rostered him if my bench in that league weren't exceptionally big. Short roster 12 team leagues and under, there's no way I'd use a roster spot on him. Dynasty might be a little different, but it depends on how well I believe i would do the rest of this year. Always play to win now if you can.
I stashed him on my bench in case he can help me in weeks 16 or 17, but I don't expect much from him and I wouldn't have rostered him if my bench in that league weren't exceptionally big. Short roster 12 team leagues and under, there's no way I'd use a roster spot on him. Dynasty might be a little different, but it depends on how well I believe i would do the rest of this year. Always play to win now if you can.
