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They have a good OL and running game. Better situation than Derek Carr was in during his first season and he turned out fine. Mitch will make everyone better. The WRs aren't great but Glennon has made everyone look terrible, including Loggains. Glennon has handicapped everyone. We all knew Glennon was a terrible signing from the beginning, but somehow Pace didn't. That's worrisome.
I can only agree with the second point. I don't think the former is a guarantee. Too many times the unknown is assumed to be better than the known only because theirs no way to prove the argument.
I'm sure teams thought the same about:
That is a really good point. And you wonder, would any of these guys succeeded if they had a different coaching situation? Or if they had not been rushed in to the line up? Would they have been better if they had been allowed to sit on the sideline and learn?
I could give plenty of other examples that turned out the opposite. I'm not sure what your point is here.
He showed in preseason that he's not "overwhelmed" and easily better than Glennon. Every about situation is different. He's not greener than anyone else coming out of college.. He'll show that when he plays.
The strip sack fumble was completely on Glennon who held the ball way too long and showed no awareness of the pass rusher coming around.flapgreen said:
Finally someone I agree with, and he's not a Bears fan. Lol. Agree with every bit of this!
Of course their are other examples. But, to say that you know that Trubisky will be better is just speculation. It's impossible to prove you wrong, until you are. I'm not saying he's going to fail, just that no one will know for certain until it happens. But saying that you know one way or another is just ridiculous.flapgreen said:
It's hyperbole and something I'm basing off of what I've seen. Of course, there's no way to know how he'll do. Honestly, I'm not that concerned with how he plays this year. He needs the experience and they can protect him and run the ball.
You really don't understand a great deal about playing QB in the NFL. In the preseason teams are playing vanilla defenses, and they don't gameplan for offenses or schemes. Trubisky was not even playing against first string players most of the time. There are lots of guys who look like world beaters in preseason who proceed to fail miserably in the regular season. He did some good things in the preseason, but that does not prove he is ready to start in the NFL. He has a lot to learn.flapgreen said:
Ok. That brings out the "you don't understand about playing in the NFL" stuff. End of discussion. Move along
Would be hard to pull off in today's NFL. And even more difficult to believe since the WRs are open on a regular basis and Glennon ignores them. I guess I could see him being told to stick with high percentage throws but even that's tough to believe. If you look at what I posted earlier, it's a video of Glennon throwing deep into triple coverage the other night while Wright was wide open deep. Glennon is leading the league in turnovers as well. If he's leading the league in turnovers while being told that, that would make him exponentially worse.
You made a statement that you watched Trubisky in preseason and know that he will be better than Glennon. In the long run he should be better than Glennon. But to make a statement that you know he is better than Glennon now because of what you saw in preseason doesn't make any sense. And to say that what you saw in preseason convinces you that he is ready to start in the NFL is seeing something that I certainly didn't see. What we saw was encouraging, but far from concrete proof that he is ready to start in the NFL.
Yep, give him a scripted series every game. Actual game experience in a semi controlled way with no play calling uncertainty. Let him build experience and confidence without expectation. If it causes the team to flounder a bit who cares. The franchise has floundered for 30 years. Next year you have a higher draft pick and a guy who has developed.
What is the sense in suspending him against other teams. His offense was against the Packers and now other teams get the benefit. Offenses in divisional games ought to be served against the offended team.
It'll come down to one game. The inconsistencies in fines and suspensions in the NFL is ridiculous, though. Thank Goodell for that and a ton of other issues within the league that will eventually come back to bite them.
I always find it inequitable that these things are assessed for the real damage a guy does to a team and the suspension then benefits that team's direct competitors, and does not inure to the benefit of the offended team.
I'm not sure that "destroying his confidence" is the reason Fox isn't playing Trubisky. If it is, that's even more reason to get rid of Fox now. That's backwards thinking. After seeing Glennon turn the ball over 4 times last game, Trubisky might be thinking, "Am I that bad that they can't trust me to start even now?". That's probably hurting his psyche more than playing poorly.flapgreen said:
Yup. Dan Quinn. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
I'm excited to see what he can do but Watson is such a winner. And the running ability would be great with the talentless group of hacks we've got at receiver.
The Texans did start Tom Savage in the first game of the season. Main difference here is that after he sucked they gave him the hook and let Watson play from that point on.flapgreen said:
The idea of being a winner in college doesn't have a lot to do with winning in the NFL. There are too many factors to winning and losing in college. Trubisky is very athletic in his own right and a more accurate passer. Better in the pocket. Reads through his progressions better. Don't get me wrong. Watson looked great today. But he's more prone to making mistakes and getting hurt with all of the running.
Better supporting cast too. Easier to ask Watson to lead the team when he doesn't have to do as much.
Any coaching staff with a brain would do the same. Trouble is the Bears coaches are idiots. Needlessly dragged this out and created drama for no reason, other than to avoid looking like they made a mistake with Glennon.
Great point 
