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***Chicago Bears Thread*** Ben Johnson hired. The Resurrection Begins! (3 Viewers)

flapgreen said:
Alshon Jeffery’s new 4-year, $52 million deal with the Eagles also included $27 million guaranteed, per source.
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He seems really happy.  A couple weeks ago he made a comment that he loves the town and wants to stay.  I know he's been injured alot but I'm happy to take a chance on him.  He's always been a great wr1 when playing

 
The Tick said:
Good for him, he was a good receiver, and that's just about where he should be ~12M per year. He deserved a long term contract that the bears wouldn't give him because of one year of soft tissue injuries.

Hope Wentz learns to throw that high point ball better as I don't think they have that down. Do that and i think his numbers go up again.
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Fair point.  I think they will get there.  Chemistry has improved and they had a really nice one like that in last week's game to convert a third down (as I guess you may have seen, since that was vs bears).

 
need2know said:
He seems really happy.  A couple weeks ago he made a comment that he loves the town and wants to stay.  I know he's been injured alot but I'm happy to take a chance on him.  He's always been a great wr1 when playing
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I'd be happy to get away from the Bears, too. 

 
The annual breakdown of guaranteed money($6.75per) is currently 6th for WR

Total annual $ of full contract is $16m per which is 3rd overall for WR

All of this for a guy that's 14th in the league in targets, but only 30th in yards. He's only averaging 56.3 yards per game (29th) and, less than 1/2 of his targets result in completions. Of receivers that have caught at least 48 balls, his catch rate of 48% is 59th out of 66. And that's after fattening up his stat line over the last 4 weeks.

Recent run presents the possibility that he's figuring out this offense, there's also a chance he's not all that good. 

He's certainly not worthy of top 5 WR money which is basically what he just got. Glad someone else is paying him.

 
Limp Ditka said:
The annual breakdown of guaranteed money($6.75per) is currently 6th for WR

Total annual $ of full contract is $16m per which is 3rd overall for WR

All of this for a guy that's 14th in the league in targets, but only 30th in yards. He's only averaging 56.3 yards per game (29th) and, less than 1/2 of his targets result in completions. Of receivers that have caught at least 48 balls, his catch rate of 48% is 59th out of 66. And that's after fattening up his stat line over the last 4 weeks.

Recent run presents the possibility that he's figuring out this offense, there's also a chance he's not all that good. 

He's certainly not worthy of top 5 WR money which is basically what he just got. Glad someone else is paying him.
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Not sure where you're getting your numbers but it's 13 million avg and is certain to fall out of the top 10 after more receivers sign new contracts this offseason, which is exactly where he belongs. Meanwhile, the Bears will have in excess of 80 million in cap space following cuts this offseason and jack #### to show for it. 

 
Limp Ditka said:
The annual breakdown of guaranteed money($6.75per) is currently 6th for WR

Total annual $ of full contract is $16m per which is 3rd overall for WR

All of this for a guy that's 14th in the league in targets, but only 30th in yards. He's only averaging 56.3 yards per game (29th) and, less than 1/2 of his targets result in completions. Of receivers that have caught at least 48 balls, his catch rate of 48% is 59th out of 66. And that's after fattening up his stat line over the last 4 weeks.

Recent run presents the possibility that he's figuring out this offense, there's also a chance he's not all that good. 

He's certainly not worthy of top 5 WR money which is basically what he just got. Glad someone else is paying him.
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I get your point and could see an argument for it being an overpay, but the reason that he has fattened his stat line is that he and wentz have been building a rapport over the season.  With Alshons preseason injury, they didn't get to work together as much.  I think what we've seen in recent weeks is more of what he will be here, at least as long as he's healthy.  His presence has helped all the receivers and the pass game as a whole.

 
Meh on Alshon...yeah, if he had the proper motivation and health he could be helping the team, but I'll take my chances on Philly fans not being very happy with him three years from now. If we fall in the #7-10 range in the draft, get Ridley from Alabama and we forget all about Alshon.

 
flapgreen said:
Not sure where you're getting your numbers but it's 13 million avg and is certain to fall out of the top 10 after more receivers sign new contracts this offseason, which is exactly where he belongs. Meanwhile, the Bears will have in excess of 80 million in cap space following cuts this offseason and jack #### to show for it. 
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Yep. Me mathed bad. Still an overpay IMO, just not a bad 

 
BoulderBob said:
Meh on Alshon...yeah, if he had the proper motivation and health he could be helping the team, but I'll take my chances on Philly fans not being very happy with him three years from now. If we fall in the #7-10 range in the draft, get Ridley from Alabama and we forget all about Alshon.
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They're not drafting a WR in the first. It will be an outsider rusher or tackle. 

 
Here's to another loss today.  Improve that draft position.  Maybe Fox will be gone before the season ends.

 
I’m ready to confidently say any of you guys thinking Trubisky is going to be some savior or even some pro bowler are out of your minds. This franchise just about NEVER does the right thing. When his name was called in April I knew it was a mistake but I tried to fool myself into thinking otherwise. But at this point I feel extremely confident he’s nothing special. His ceiling is Andy Dalton, but floor is Grossman. 

 
he just looks slow in his decision making. hope that improves with experience but starting to think this is just him. doesnt mean he cant be good with great help around him, but im seeing joe flacco.

 
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mbuehner said:
he just looks slow in his decision making. hope that improves with experience but starting to think this is just him. doesnt mean he cant be good with great help around him, but im seeing joe flacco.
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Flacco? I wish. He won a Super Bowl with one of the best post seasons ever. 

And lol at this organization ever getting him “great help”. 

 
flapgreen said:
Let's hope and pray ownershiphas a change of heart between now and tomorrow and gets rid of Fox.  Worst season in Bears history finishing with 2 straight blowouts. 
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One year later and even worse team, what's the point anymore? They'll screw it up either way. 

 
:lmao: :bag: :lmao: :bag: :lmao:

Glad I decided to catch up on sleep.  Woke up and saw it was 14-12 with about 4m left, said no problem, FG to lose it (and by the guy they thought was overpaid and done).  ZzZzZzZz.

:lmao:

Does 7-9 look better than 3-13, Fox?  GTFOOH.

 
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If I were Trubador, I'd be running audibles on every play from here on out.  Schoolyard playbook.  Everybody go deep.

 
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Sure, but it was rhetorical.  Haven't seen much of rolling him outside the pocket that was said to be one of his strengths.

 
I mean, hey, at least we aren't giving up 50+ a game as near the end of the Trestman era.

Inman has been promising and Cohen finally showed off his jitterbugginess to the extent expected.

 
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I noticed we got Houston back.  Didn't see any info on it here or elsewhere, so when I saw him on the field, I was like, wait, what?

 
Yeah, I just looked before I posted it.  Not exactly big news compared to when he was first signed.

What a trainwreck.

 
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I mean, hey, at least we aren't giving up 50+ a game as near the end of the Trestman era.

Inman has been promising and Cohen finally showed off his jitterbugginess to the extent expected.
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This season is ending worse than that one and could potentially be a second straight 3-13

 
Time to rebuild the rebuild.  Sell the team to someone who actually knows what they're doing, instead of hiring 20th century consultants and not letting your GM pick his coach (Quinn).  Clean house now.

Fired up and fed up.

 
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Context about just how awful the #Bears' O was vs. a very generous 49ers D.

Colts, Cowboys, Cardinals all had more *rushing* yards vs. SF than the Bears had total offense

 
While I am part of the meathead brigade that has wanted Fox fired after pretty much every week of this season (or much before, angry fist shake), given that this is not going to happen during the season, I think there are some very fair and serious questions about the Bears' leadership.

I'm just struggling to understand what, exactly, we have seen in terms of developmental progress from Trubisky.  The Fox/Loggains regime asks him to do virtually nothing, and I would say he's been decidedly OK at doing nothing.  Week after week, the game plan is the same.  There don't seem to be any wrinkles added in; in particular, there's no effort to utilize his mobility, see what he can do on the boot, build those skills, etc.

Given this, do we have a general manager that is OK with simply blowing one of the five cheap years of Trubisky's contract?  An ownership group that refuses to have a coach fired mid-season?  An accountant president who won't let Pace make his own calls?

Whichever of these has an answer of "yes" is probably the root of the problems with the Bears.

 
After failure through multiple coaches and GM's, it's on the ownership. It's always been the ownership. Just click that link I posted early of McMahon 

 
rschroeder1 said:
I'm just struggling to understand what, exactly, we have seen in terms of developmental progress from Trubisky.  The Fox/Loggains regime asks him to do virtually nothing, and I would say he's been decidedly OK at doing nothing.  Week after week, the game plan is the same.  There don't seem to be any wrinkles added in; in particular, there's no effort to utilize his mobility, see what he can do on the boot, build those skills, etc.
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It's become bizarre at this point honestly.  They had all sorts of different packages and plays when he was lighting it up in preseason but don't use any of it any more.

 
Really strange and not just something I would expect someone who doesn't know what they're doing to run.  It's more than just incompetence. It's outright avoiding doing things you know have worked. 

 
The Bears have been below .500 for 54 consecutive weeks & it’ll be 58 by the season’s end. The longest streak before this was 46 weeks- week 3 of 1996 through the 1998 season. Worst stretch in Bears history. 

 
You cannot hand a top 5 QB over to a John Fox team and expect results. Same as Goff with Fisher. That kind of lack of awareness is a really bad sign for Pace. 

 
Fox is gone within 48 hours, sucks that 3-13 may not get a top 3 pick because of the Bears strength of schedule. Tanking is everywhere

 
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