shadyridr
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7 vs 13 in my scoring7=7 right now.
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SameSongNDance
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Lot's of game left and Stacy isn't around to siphon receptions. Give it a second.
DarkKnightsGuru
Footballguy
There u go 21 yard run
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
I do think his demise has been greatly exaggerated
Yep, I almost bought into the hype of wanting to sell him. Looked good today once he got going. 10 days not to full heal up, I like him going forward quite a bit.
He looked good. Aside from the fumble, what was most frustrating was his lack of utilization on all those 3rd/4th and shorts. In one sequence he was even subbed out for Ridley.
As Simms pointed out, if you know you're going for it on 4th, why not hand it off to Ivory at least once. Certainly would have been better than all those ridiculous throws short of the sticks.
As Simms pointed out, if you know you're going for it on 4th, why not hand it off to Ivory at least once. Certainly would have been better than all those ridiculous throws short of the sticks.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Yep. In a league that doesn't use fractional points. So that last carry cost me 5.9 points. A nice parting kick to the nuts.
For the love.... why does this exist in 2015?? I remember thinking it was archaic over 10 years ago.
Schedule moving forward + No Stacy/Powell = RB1Deamon said:
I don't understand the fear.
People need to realize the guy can't run the ball 35 times a game. Ridley will be needed to give the guy a damn break.
People should have been buying prior to this game not selling. Too late now.
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
Sold him for DeAndre Hopkins
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Tell me about it! It's my younger brother's best friend's league. They only use whole numbers. What can I say? It's not my main league thank god.FF Ninja said:
Kwai Chang Caine
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5 point bonus at 100 yards. And 99 yards = 9 points since they don't use fractional points. So I was at 15 points for rushing when he got tackled for a one yard loss it became 9 points. Sucks.
matttyl
Footballguy
fightingillini
Footballguy
Same in my league, my opponent has Ivory and his last -1 yd carry lost him 6 pts. Nice for me.
It's why I hate bonuses at certain arbitrary levels. Very little difference between 95 yds rushing and 105 yds rushing.
I played in my only non-fractional points league 10 years ago. Hated it. It's also really dumb because it doesn't combine rushing and receiving yards. So Ivory last night had 135 YFS, but in non-fractional scoring that's only worth 12 (99 + 36).FF Ninja said:
On the bright side, we do get to read plenty of posts in the Shark Pool every year from commisioners designing ever-more elaborate tie-breaking procedures that could be mostly eliminated if they just went to fractional points.
rugcleaner
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It must suck to be a Jets fan, that was some downright awful coaching.
Kick the 2 easy FG's on 4th and win? nah Fitzmagic
At least hand the ball to Ivory getting 7 yards a pop? na Fitzmagic
Yes I had Ivory and it cost me 6 points, I mad
Kick the 2 easy FG's on 4th and win? nah Fitzmagic
At least hand the ball to Ivory getting 7 yards a pop? na Fitzmagic
Yes I had Ivory and it cost me 6 points, I mad
Dizzy
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Not to disrupt this critical dialog on the many benefits of "fractional" scoring (I actually thought it was decimals, but maybe that's the old math)... anyway... What are the takeaways from last night?
If Nick Mangold plays, start Ivory with confidence?
Is Ridley getting more carries going forward? He look extremely hesitant last night. Shocked to see him in on those short conversion attempts.
Play calling was lacking creativity as well. Maybe the short work week dumbs down the scheme?
If Nick Mangold plays, start Ivory with confidence?
Is Ridley getting more carries going forward? He look extremely hesitant last night. Shocked to see him in on those short conversion attempts.
Play calling was lacking creativity as well. Maybe the short work week dumbs down the scheme?
Heard on the broadcasts that it was the short week causing a dumbed down scheme. No time to prepare specific things based on the matchups.
TheDirtyWord
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Ivory's TD potential prowess almost makes him a must start no matter what. Guy had a 23/28 effort on Sunday and still wound up with 16.8 points.
Ridley is not a threat and quite frankly, I love the idea of him being active now cause I suspect they'll give him a drive/half to rest Ivory. That said, he has to show more than what he showed last night.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
First, yes it does suck.
I really didn't have much issue with the aggressive decisions to go for TDs and not FGs because they had a new kicker and its a lot easier to make those calls with the benefit of hind-sight (and once they passed it up the first time, the second time they almost had to go for the TD). Throwing versus running is always going to be based on the outcome, but what I don't like is completing three passes on 3rd or 4th down short of the marker and turning the ball over on downs. Fitzmagic actually played well in the second half but was hurt by bad drops and by a dumb backup TE that wasn't looking for the ball on a play clearly designed to get him the ball.
But once again, being a Jets fan has almost always sucked.
matttyl
Footballguy
or allowed the tie to stand. I had a tie last year in my non-fractional league. playoff seeding was greatly affected because of it.
wickster33
Footballguy
One other strange call... Jets call final time out with 2:35 on the game clock and 32 seconds on the play clock. Totally wasted time out as Buff would have had to run a play anyway.
The only thing that annoys me is Jets/Gailey play calling. Took a look at their 3rd-and-short play calling earlier.
3rd and 1, they run 2/3 of the time
3rd and 2 to 3rd and 5, 10% OF THE TIME. When you have an RB getting >5 yards per carry, that's just stupid.
They also run best off the right end, and Buffalo defends the ends the worst, but 2nd and 2 next to end zone last night was inside the left guard, and stuffed.
3rd and 1, they run 2/3 of the time
3rd and 2 to 3rd and 5, 10% OF THE TIME. When you have an RB getting >5 yards per carry, that's just stupid.
They also run best off the right end, and Buffalo defends the ends the worst, but 2nd and 2 next to end zone last night was inside the left guard, and stuffed.
Kenny Powers
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ahartig
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He went out to get looked at by trainers after the first play of the game and Ridley received 3-4 carries in his absence I think. Game flow didn't help as well as the Texans deciding to play defense finally. Hopefully he gets back on track versus Miami
Powell back and healthy doesn't help at all.
Powell back and healthy doesn't help at all.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Nick Mangold left the game early again. I don't think there's a team in the NFL other than the Jets who's offensive MVP (in the true sense of the word) is its center.
rugcleaner
Footballguy
This thread should be called Chris Ivory needs Nick Mangold
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
How do we feel about Ivory tonight? Here is the snap/touch breakdown since Powell returned in week 11.
Week 11 (Loss to HOU 24-17)
Powell - 61% - 4 carries (7 targets)
Ivory - 25% - 8 carries (1 target)
Week 12 (Win vs. MIA 38-20)
Powell - 45% - 6 carries (5 targets)
Ivory - 56% - 22 carries (1 target)
Week 13 (Win vs. NYG 23-20)
Powell - 55% 6 carries (13 targets)
Ivory - 38% - 10 carries (5 targets)
Week 14 (Win vs. TEN 30-8)
Powell - 32% - 3 carries (5 targets)
Ivory - 51% - 22 carries (2 targets)
Ivory owners need to be comfortable with the fact that Powell will likely see a fair share of snaps regardless. That being said, the snap/touch skew seems to be very game flow dependent. When NYJ sits on a lead and leans on Ivory the snap percentages essentially become irrelevant.
DAL has averaged 16 PPG with Cassel at the helm. Over his past 4 starts, DAL has cleared that average just once (19 points vs. WAS). Over the past three weeks, DAL is bottom three in average time of possession (24:42) where as the Jets have averaged 33:09 (good for 7th most). Cassel has consistently struggled to move the ball/sustain drives regardless of opponent where as NYJ has essentially been complete inverse as of late, setting this up as an Ivory game as NYJ plays ball control. This in conjunction with the fact the DAL has allowed the 5th most PPG to RBs this season and I think to Ivory is a good bet to finish as a RB1 this week.
Oh and Rolando McClain being out is also a plus.
Week 11 (Loss to HOU 24-17)
Powell - 61% - 4 carries (7 targets)
Ivory - 25% - 8 carries (1 target)
Week 12 (Win vs. MIA 38-20)
Powell - 45% - 6 carries (5 targets)
Ivory - 56% - 22 carries (1 target)
Week 13 (Win vs. NYG 23-20)
Powell - 55% 6 carries (13 targets)
Ivory - 38% - 10 carries (5 targets)
Week 14 (Win vs. TEN 30-8)
Powell - 32% - 3 carries (5 targets)
Ivory - 51% - 22 carries (2 targets)
Ivory owners need to be comfortable with the fact that Powell will likely see a fair share of snaps regardless. That being said, the snap/touch skew seems to be very game flow dependent. When NYJ sits on a lead and leans on Ivory the snap percentages essentially become irrelevant.
DAL has averaged 16 PPG with Cassel at the helm. Over his past 4 starts, DAL has cleared that average just once (19 points vs. WAS). Over the past three weeks, DAL is bottom three in average time of possession (24:42) where as the Jets have averaged 33:09 (good for 7th most). Cassel has consistently struggled to move the ball/sustain drives regardless of opponent where as NYJ has essentially been complete inverse as of late, setting this up as an Ivory game as NYJ plays ball control. This in conjunction with the fact the DAL has allowed the 5th most PPG to RBs this season and I think to Ivory is a good bet to finish as a RB1 this week.
Oh and Rolando McClain being out is also a plus.
SameSongNDance: This is a thoughtful assessment on Ivory and game flow prediction. I have Ivory starting on two of my playoff teams this weekend. I am starting Ivory over Powell, Hightower, Bryce Brown, Gio Bernard, Theo Riddick, and Brandon Boldin. I will be either very happy or very sad this evening! Let's go Ivory!
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I have him in 4 playoff matches (3 of them PPR). No coincidence that these teams made the playoffs. Guy was the mid round pick of the draft. Not sitting now. GO TUSK!!
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm very confident in how I believe this game should play out but of course this is football where variance reigns. Whacky #### can and does happens but I won't regret starting him regardless of the outcome.
* NYJ favored to win -- Check.
* Dallas statistically weak against the run and just had Lacy run all over them -- Check.
* Dallas offense horrid; Should translate to more offensive opportunities for Ivory -- Check.
* Dallas much better against the pass vs. the run...so run more -- Check.
I mean...what could go wrong?
Lol.
* Dallas statistically weak against the run and just had Lacy run all over them -- Check.
* Dallas offense horrid; Should translate to more offensive opportunities for Ivory -- Check.
* Dallas much better against the pass vs. the run...so run more -- Check.
I mean...what could go wrong?
Lol.
Almost game time and I still can't decide whether to start him. I have Freeman and Williams as starters and AJ Green and Hopkins as WR starters. Sammy Watkins is my flex. The experts seem to be split on Watkins and Ivory as the flex. The way Freeman has been going I am tempted to sit him,,, but if he is going to do good I expect it to be this week. I guess it could be worse and not have somebody good to play at flex. 
This is the first round of the playoffs for our league and the team I am going up against has the best record. If I get by him the other two playoff teams are weaker. I lost Bell (1.03)and Forsett (3.03) this year and drafted Ivory at 6.10 . He sure has been a lucky pick until Powel got healthy.
This is the first round of the playoffs for our league and the team I am going up against has the best record. If I get by him the other two playoff teams are weaker. I lost Bell (1.03)and Forsett (3.03) this year and drafted Ivory at 6.10 . He sure has been a lucky pick until Powel got healthy.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Everything I've said about Cassel, DAL has lived through. They are fully aware of how this game could play out.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Guys that are on the fence about Ivory, do you realize he is 6th in standard and 7th in ppr? I can't believe the lack of respect. I bet he is on more playoff teams than maybe any other player.
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Scoring the last 4 weeks in my league.
Ivory: 3,15,4,10
Freeman : 4,_ 9, 4
Watkins : 3, 27, 16 ,14
Why do I have such blind faith in Freeman over Ivory ? Except that he has averaged 15.8 a game versus Ivory's 12.1 ? The only other reason is he shares with Powell, and Freeman really gets most of the touches. Sammy ? He's just lighting it up so much lately I can't get myself to bench him.
Ivory: 3,15,4,10
Freeman : 4,_ 9, 4
Watkins : 3, 27, 16 ,14
Why do I have such blind faith in Freeman over Ivory ? Except that he has averaged 15.8 a game versus Ivory's 12.1 ? The only other reason is he shares with Powell, and Freeman really gets most of the touches. Sammy ? He's just lighting it up so much lately I can't get myself to bench him.
shadyridr
Footballguy
oh come on man, its one quarter
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