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They hype is over. Let's just all admit it we were wrong Christine is never gonna be what we thought. The fact is if he was as good as we thought he would be playing. He's just not that good.

 
He's had a hammy injury. Let's see what happens when he gets a chance. This is all about 2015 anyway...
:yes:

I don't think many C-Mike optimists expect him to be useful until Lynch is gone. The usage pattern so far this year has mirrored what Seattle did last year, so I don't know why the skeptics think the optimists are all of a sudden going to panic and change their tune (nevermind the fact that he's been injured). It's all about holding for the payoff when Marshawn is gone. It always has been. This noise today is much ado about nothing.

 
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When you have a guy like Michael up your sleeve, you don't unleash him in week 3 during some meaningless game against a team you already know you own, particularly if he's coming off a hamstring injury. If Carroll is smart (and he is) he'll ride Lynch all the way to the playoffs, and when everyone begins to see him tire down and game plan accordingly, BOOM, you let your stud out of the barn with fresh legs, and ride him all the way to a repeat.

 
jurb26 said:
Faust said:
jurb26 said:
mnmplayer said:
55 pages on 18 career rushes, he is averaging three pages per carry.
:lmao:
Michael still has a long way to go before he reaches the David Wilson threshold, which was almost a page per carry.
I think you got that backwards.
You are correct, working on minimal sleep!I just remembered being in awe that the David Wilson thread was over 110 pages, and that he didn't have too many more career carries then that.

Michael at least has an opportunity to change his ratio.

 
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EBF said:
Gandalf said:
He's had a hammy injury. Let's see what happens when he gets a chance. This is all about 2015 anyway...
:yes:

I don't think many C-Mike optimists expect him to be useful until Lynch is gone. The usage pattern so far this year has mirrored what Seattle did last year, so I don't know why the skeptics think the optimists are all of a sudden going to panic and change their tune (nevermind the fact that he's been injured). It's all about holding for the payoff when Marshawn is gone. It always has been. This noise is much ado about nothing.
So is the ridiculous hype about how great Michael has been from you. I toss it into the same bucket as Dyer and Jstew...

 
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Good Luck Men! I was finally able to break the chains early this morning via the Wire. A fellow manager felt his best cut was Jeremy Hill, and I put in claim! I was 5th overall at the time, but I liked the promise of Hill from the get-go, and holding onto a RB whose not getting any gametime was tearn me up, so to speak..

Hopefully it don't wind up similar to my other back McKinnon!

 
As was already stated multiple times throughout this thread. If you bought him in a dynasty league (especially deeper ones), you have no choice but to hold since you will get no where near the value you paid for him in return. But if you were to drop him, he'd be scooped up for pennies. That is the only time he will be of value, since if he hits, you paid little for him. If he doesn't hit, you drop him with little to no pain.

 
He's had a hammy injury. Let's see what happens when he gets a chance. This is all about 2015 anyway...
:yes:

I don't think many C-Mike optimists expect him to be useful until Lynch is gone. The usage pattern so far this year has mirrored what Seattle did last year, so I don't know why the skeptics think the optimists are all of a sudden going to panic and change their tune (nevermind the fact that he's been injured). It's all about holding for the payoff when Marshawn is gone. It always has been. This noise today is much ado about nothing.
Problem is when Lynch is gone he will still be a backup. At least he will be a rb2 and probably not be a healthy scratch.

Turbin is not going anywhere.

 
As was already stated multiple times throughout this thread. If you bought him in a dynasty league (especially deeper ones), you have no choice but to hold since you will get no where near the value you paid for him in return. But if you were to drop him, he'd be scooped up for pennies. That is the only time he will be of value, since if he hits, you paid little for him. If he doesn't hit, you drop him with little to no pain.
What you paid should have nothing to do with the decision. If he is a depreciating asset you dump him and get something back.

 
Dumped him in redraft. Just not enough upside despite any freakish running skills. Even if Lynch goes down this is still a RBBC with Turbin and there are handcuffs with better upsides around.

 
I'm certainly concerned about injuries. It often seems durability is as important as actual running ability when it comes to the running back position.

I have no doubt he'll get his shot eventually and at that point I'll decide to ride or sell.

 
I have 2 starters: Jamaal Charles, Eddie Lacy

And 3 backups: Andre Ellington, Knile Davis, James Starks

And 3 stashes: Christine Michael, Jerrick McKinnon, Marcus Lattimore

I'm hoping for one of the 3 stashes to hit. I'm perfectly fine with waiting it out and dropping them down the road if it comes to it but if someone wants to give me a first round pick for CMike then Yahoo!!!

 
biju said:
EBF said:
I always wonder if people actually believe this line of "logic" or if they are like those yahoo financial message board guys who think their one comment is going to drive the price down on something they want to buy.
How is the logic any worse than those who assume he's going to step right in and be a bell cow monster? The reality is that no one, including the Seattle staff IMO, knows what is going to happen if/when Lynch is out.

 
Nice article: Seattle running back Christine Michael waiting for his chance, Oct 5

Anybody have new thoughts on his situation? Will he see time at some point this season? There are not a lot of juicy match-ups late in the season for the Seattle offense and I see that division being a dog-fight till the end so there won't be any coasting in my opinion. If Lynch is healthy, he will play. And play a lot. Does Michael even sniff at the chance to contribute in a way that is beneficial to fantasy owners in 2014 or is he strictly a dynasty hold?

 
Nice article: Seattle running back Christine Michael waiting for his chance, Oct 5

Anybody have new thoughts on his situation? Will he see time at some point this season? There are not a lot of juicy match-ups late in the season for the Seattle offense and I see that division being a dog-fight till the end so there won't be any coasting in my opinion. If Lynch is healthy, he will play. And play a lot. Does Michael even sniff at the chance to contribute in a way that is beneficial to fantasy owners in 2014 or is he strictly a dynasty hold?
Only if lynch gets injured.

 
Look, he's obviously got some serious deficiencies to his game. If he was this super stud all star that many made him out to be, he'd have done something. Something just doesn't fit.

 
Look, he's obviously got some serious deficiencies to his game. If he was this super stud all star that many made him out to be, he'd have done something. Something just doesn't fit.
As a Seahawks fan...I agree. Something doesn't add up and there must be something really missing from his game. I thought he would get an opportunity to at least be part of the active roster last week, so seeing him be inactive was bizarre. So you're probably right--congrats.

 
You're the champs and everything you touch is turning to gold right now. Why mess with it?

The Seahawks are so luck/good with personnel right now, for all we know, they are pimping Turbin so they can get something out of HIM and then bring Michael (the true future) up to rock it out.

We really have no idea but it is safe to say that the WORST case scenario is that Michael finds himself the odd man out and if that happens, he is either traded to another team (instant fantasy boost based on perception) or he is off the team and finds his way onto another (still, somewhat of a boost).

All in all, the key phrase with this guy is "be patient."

 
You're the champs and everything you touch is turning to gold right now. Why mess with it?

The Seahawks are so luck/good with personnel right now, for all we know, they are pimping Turbin so they can get something out of HIM and then bring Michael (the true future) up to rock it out.

We really have no idea but it is safe to say that the WORST case scenario is that Michael finds himself the odd man out and if that happens, he is either traded to another team (instant fantasy boost based on perception) or he is off the team and finds his way onto another (still, somewhat of a boost).

All in all, the key phrase with this guy is "be patient."
Exactly. I'm continuing to do the same thing with J Stewart. One of these days......my patience will pay off.
 
You're the champs and everything you touch is turning to gold right now. Why mess with it?

The Seahawks are so luck/good with personnel right now, for all we know, they are pimping Turbin so they can get something out of HIM and then bring Michael (the true future) up to rock it out.

We really have no idea but it is safe to say that the WORST case scenario is that Michael finds himself the odd man out and if that happens, he is either traded to another team (instant fantasy boost based on perception) or he is off the team and finds his way onto another (still, somewhat of a boost).

All in all, the key phrase with this guy is "be patient."
Exactly. I'm continuing to do the same thing with J Stewart. One of these days......my patience will pay off.
Good process doesn't always equal good results. Unless you have a crystal ball, good process still generates bad outcomes.

 
Look, he's obviously got some serious deficiencies to his game. If he was this super stud all star that many made him out to be, he'd have done something. Something just doesn't fit.
Turbin is a better blocker and adequate on the three carries he gets a game. Not that complicated to me.

 
You're the champs and everything you touch is turning to gold right now. Why mess with it?

The Seahawks are so luck/good with personnel right now, for all we know, they are pimping Turbin so they can get something out of HIM and then bring Michael (the true future) up to rock it out.

We really have no idea but it is safe to say that the WORST case scenario is that Michael finds himself the odd man out and if that happens, he is either traded to another team (instant fantasy boost based on perception) or he is off the team and finds his way onto another (still, somewhat of a boost)

All in all, the key phrase with this guy is "be patient."
Exactly. I'm continuing to do the same thing with J Stewart. One of these days......my patience will pay off.
Good process doesn't always equal good results. Unless you have a crystal ball, good process still generates bad outcomes.
Sure. But you also need to take an honest assessment of whether or not your process was good, regardless of the outcome.
 
Just curious, but was he ever a stud, anywhere, prior to last year's combine? I don't think he was ever that valuable at A&M and hasn't cracked the active roster very often in the NFL, so what is with the hype? Maybe if rotogarbage talks more about him, his stock will go up and his gullible owners can feel better about wasting the roster spot on him.

But, but but, just wait til next year....hahahaahaaaa

 
Hype comes from a multitude of positives for CM. Great team, flashed in preseason, excellent measurables, looks good in a uniform, blah blah. Seahawks are going to run beast mode into the f****** ground and cut him loose this year. They have plenty of time to evaluate Michael and the future of their rb position, buy low and hold are the only sane options.

 
I agee with tdmills, Lynch's contract runs through next year, and there is now more $$$ available to pay that contract or restructure. The odds of another year of Michael irrelevance on my dynasty bench have increased. At least I have P. Richardson whose dynasty odds of relevance just went up.

 
Marshawn Lynch - RB - Seahawks
The New York Daily News' Manish Mehta reported Marshawn Lynch "almost did not get on the bus" after learning of the Percy Harvin trade.
The team was informed of the Harvin trade before boarding a bus to the airport for Sunday's game at Saint Louis. Lynch reportedly "went off" before almost not boarding the bus. Lynch, Cliff Avril and Bruce Irvin also voiced displeasure about the move on Twitter. The Seahawks hoped shifting Harvin would remedy issues that had been developing in the locker room, but it appears the trade may have initially done more harm than good. Lynch is still likely to play against the Rams this weekend.


Source: Manish Mehta on Twitter
Oct 18 - 11:27 AM

 
Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch was visibly upset after learning about the trade of wide receiver Percy Harvin to the Jets, almost refusing to get on the team bus, the New York Daily News reports.

Lynch is in line to get more work on offense with the team dealing away one of its top passing-game options, but he was close with the departing Harvin. The trade was engineered reportedly in part due to Harvin being a problem in the locker room, but his departure could cause further problems with players like Lynch who were friends with the receiver.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/24757377/report-seahawks-rb-marshawn-lynch-upset-by-harvin-trade

 
I agee with tdmills, Lynch's contract runs through next year, and there is now more $$$ available to pay that contract or restructure. The odds of another year of Michael irrelevance on my dynasty bench have increased. At least I have P. Richardson whose dynasty odds of relevance just went up.
Yep, bad news for Michael. I really doubt Lynch gets cut now.

 
With Harvin gone and his salary, odds go up significantly that Lynch stays next year.
Yep, without a doubt.
Or, odds go up that they restructure Wilson while they can and have the cap space. I'm not sold this means much of anything for the RBs.
Odds go up was my phrase. Do you think odds go down now?
I think it does little for their RB position. I don't see them investing heavily into it, Lynch or otherwise.
 
What has always been the case since the beginning of this thread... What really has changed? Last time I checked Lynch is still there, Turbin is still #2 and Michael is still inactive every weekend.

 
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