zamboni
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Terrific album, but kind of obscure, I think, for this thread.
"Mr. Big" is a great underrated tune. The '80s'/90s band took their name from the tune.
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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (2 Viewers)
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"Mr. Big" is a great underrated tune. The '80s'/90s band took their name from the tune.
rockaction
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Well, this cheesy one-hit wonder band took their name from a "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" lyric. Doesn't discredit the copied band/tune, I would say.
jwb
Footballguy
I dunno about obscure. All Right Now is in the upper tier of classic rock radio staples, and Paul Rodgers is fairly prolific. I don't own this album, and Tim listing it made me go to spotify, where it's playing now. I like it a lot, and will put it on my record store list. To me, that's partly what this thread is about.
rockaction
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Clunkyass record. Paul Rodgers was to the 60s & 70s what Paul Carrack was to the 80s, elevating songs with a perfect tone for the times. It's a shame he never found a songwriter worthy of him, but i get a sense the fault was as much his.
jwb
Footballguy
Yea, sadly, I feel this way about a lot of classic rock. Blame the ultra tight radio formats of my youth.
rockaction
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
I thought you had edited the link to add and reflect Steel Breeze's extensive catalog.
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rockaction
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Much like his later bad company, too repetitive for my tastes. I did like one song by free, that being "wishing well".
timschochet
Footballguy
Rush- Moving Pictures (1981)
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
YVZ
Limelight
The Camera Eye
Witch Hunt (Part III of Fear)
Vital Signs
The second Rush album for our consideration, (their 8th album overall) is much more accessible for the casual listener (me) than the earlier 2112. Like all rock fans I'm very familiar with "Tom Sawyer" and "Limelight", and I've always liked them both, though the lyrics of "Limelight" always seemed somewhat whiny to me- poor Neal Peart, uncomfortable with fame! But that solo by Lifeson is legendary. As for the rest of the album- I've always liked "Red Barchetta". I know that "YVZ" is famous for showing off their skills as musicians but it doesn't do anything for me. "Vital Signs" is...reggae?
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
YVZ
Limelight
The Camera Eye
Witch Hunt (Part III of Fear)
Vital Signs
The second Rush album for our consideration, (their 8th album overall) is much more accessible for the casual listener (me) than the earlier 2112. Like all rock fans I'm very familiar with "Tom Sawyer" and "Limelight", and I've always liked them both, though the lyrics of "Limelight" always seemed somewhat whiny to me- poor Neal Peart, uncomfortable with fame! But that solo by Lifeson is legendary. As for the rest of the album- I've always liked "Red Barchetta". I know that "YVZ" is famous for showing off their skills as musicians but it doesn't do anything for me. "Vital Signs" is...reggae?
zamboni
Footballguy
One of my favorites growing up and still love it. I’m one of those old school fans who lamented their subsequent synth-heavy shift with Signals, so this is really the culmination of my fandom.
All quality tunes - the hidden gem IMO is “The Camera Eye”.
All quality tunes - the hidden gem IMO is “The Camera Eye”.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Along with permanent waves the best era of this group imo.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
two Mush before one Yes?! Consider this thread boycotted....
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
First off @timschochet - can you get the song list correct? It's YYZ not YVZ.
Love how (as Rush fanatics know) the triangle tap for the intro is Morse Code for Y-Y-Z repeated; calling for YYZ (-.--/-.--/--..), the Airport Code for Pearson Int't Airport in Toronto. 
Agree with @zamboni that it is one of my favorites. This was in the era that began Geddy's use of keyboards. (Bass, vocals, and playing keyboards with your feet!) Beginning with Permanent Waves, they were moving away from lengthy, songs that last a whole album side. The Camera Eye is their last 10 minute long song.)
Red Barchetta and Limelight are my favorites on this album. Never really thought of it as whiny. I'll have to go back and listen to it while reading the lyrics.
The artwork is very clever. (Front, Back)
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Seems like a lot of worthy candidates got passed over so we could consider a second Rush album. Particularly considering there's no genre constraint anymore, and "greatest hits" compilations are now fair game too.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
I do not get the Rush hate around here. Love the Rush.
Sullie
Footballguy
I skimmed over the posts but I'm guessing I agree completely with Gr00vus and wikkidpissah, you just cannot have enough Rush albums on here. And, listen, I get the jist of what you guys are saying, Moving Pictures is a fantastic album bordering on perfection and this thread needs more Rush albums to keep it going, great thinking! 
So I used to go to lunch with a couple of guys, one loved Rush as much as I do and another one hated Rush as much as our Rush hating friends in this thread. This is like 30 years ago now so this love-hate of Rush has been going on for a LONG time.
Anyway, this one day Pete (big Rush fan) says "I mean, you gotta love Peart's lyrics, they're so well thought out, not like this crap you hear on the radio now." Brian (not a Rush fan) says "oh yeah, that line Catch the Spirit, Catch the Spit, that's soooo well thought out and has suuuuch deep meaning to me, I meant that's just pure genius." Pete says "he didn't write the lyrics to Tom Sawyer, Pye Dubois wrote that." And without missing a beat Brian said "oh, I see, so the great lyrical genius Neil Peart didn't write the lyrics to their most famous song, got it." And on and on the argument would go through lunch.
I get it the hate, I used to detest Rush myself but I'm a convert. All my HS friends were huge into Rush in the 80's, I was into heavier groups until I "discovered" old Rush when I was in college and then slowly I came around, album by album, song by song. I opened up my mind to it, I think it's probably an acquired taste for some, some like it instantly, some never will. I don't understand why it bothers people so much, I do find Rush to be polarizing for some reason.
I will say this much, to me, 4 of my favorite 5 Rush albums are from that era, those being Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals and Power Windows. To me, those four albums almost sound like they were recorded at the same time and just divided out into different albums. My fifth favorite is Fly By Night. I used to think of Limelight as "whiny" too but then as I have grown older and I've been around more people, I always thought that was Neil's way of saying he's socially awkward or that he has asperger's syndrome but what do I know?
So I used to go to lunch with a couple of guys, one loved Rush as much as I do and another one hated Rush as much as our Rush hating friends in this thread. This is like 30 years ago now so this love-hate of Rush has been going on for a LONG time.
Anyway, this one day Pete (big Rush fan) says "I mean, you gotta love Peart's lyrics, they're so well thought out, not like this crap you hear on the radio now." Brian (not a Rush fan) says "oh yeah, that line Catch the Spirit, Catch the Spit, that's soooo well thought out and has suuuuch deep meaning to me, I meant that's just pure genius." Pete says "he didn't write the lyrics to Tom Sawyer, Pye Dubois wrote that." And without missing a beat Brian said "oh, I see, so the great lyrical genius Neil Peart didn't write the lyrics to their most famous song, got it." And on and on the argument would go through lunch.
I get it the hate, I used to detest Rush myself but I'm a convert. All my HS friends were huge into Rush in the 80's, I was into heavier groups until I "discovered" old Rush when I was in college and then slowly I came around, album by album, song by song. I opened up my mind to it, I think it's probably an acquired taste for some, some like it instantly, some never will. I don't understand why it bothers people so much, I do find Rush to be polarizing for some reason.
I will say this much, to me, 4 of my favorite 5 Rush albums are from that era, those being Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals and Power Windows. To me, those four albums almost sound like they were recorded at the same time and just divided out into different albums. My fifth favorite is Fly By Night. I used to think of Limelight as "whiny" too but then as I have grown older and I've been around more people, I always thought that was Neil's way of saying he's socially awkward or that he has asperger's syndrome but what do I know?
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I'm not a big Rush fan but do enjoy some of their early work. Rush was one of the bands that got me into rock. Black sabbath, Kiss, and Rush started my hard rock journey in about 5th grade.
Kiss and Sabbath have always been playing during my life but I take long breaks from Rush. I can only take a couple of Rush songs at a time because of Geddy's voice. It has always struck me as unpleasant. It is a shame because I find rush really interesting musically.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Rush rules....moving pictures is a cassette that I wore out and rebought. Me and my buddies started an air band and we would play moving pictures....lmfao......haters gonna hate....let them
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
While there are other albums of theirs I listen to more, Moving Pictures is arguably their best album. It is the perfect blend of their sounds before and after (still a little proggy, keys were starting to get used a little), with some fantastic lyrics across the board from Peart. This is where Peart came into his own as a lyricist and went on an incredible run with them through the early 90's.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It's also worth noting that in the pantheon of drum fills in a rock song that always get air drummed or recognized, Peart's at the end of the band/guitar solo in Tom Sawyer has to be up there with the In the Air Tonight drum fill and the Hotel California one.
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timschochet
Footballguy
It’s always Peart Peart Peart but the guy who really impressed me in this band is Lifeson. I have no idea how he compares to the other great guitarists but he is really good.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Wow. That's condescending. Peart hates interviews and public appearances. He spent his entire career leaving the venue as soon as he stopped playing. Mocking what for him is a big issue is just wrong.
Lifeson’s playing is often described as understated or tasteful which doesn’t do it for many rock fans. Even in a three piece band, I find that his sound gets lost in the mix sometimes. Anyway, everyone knows his is good, most think he is vey good, and some fans hail him as one of the most underrated guitarists out there.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don't get it either. It seems people either love or hate rush, but somehow I am in the camp that neither loves them or hates them.
I liked them a lot when I was younger (high school), and they were one of the first concerts I attended. At this stage I don't ever feel motivated to play their music, and the only song that I love is Spirit of the Radio - but I still don't mind if I hear them.
Moving Pictures is a very good record and fits a time. Would I put it on today? No,,,but I can still appreciate why some one would love it.
I will agree however that Rush had already been discussed in this thread, with most being down on them and their supporters coming to their defense so I'm not sure why they would be brought up again while so many acts/recors have yet to be discussed.
zamboni
Footballguy
In more recent years, he’s had more than his share of family tragedies as well, so one can understand his need for privacy.
He really opens up in his autobiography, which I highly recommend - both heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time.
jwb
Footballguy
Yea, to Neal, he gave the fans his all as a drummer and a lyricist. He doesn't want to give more than that. This isn't Axl Rose (et al) walking off stage and cursing the crowd. Neal is an intense guy who takes his job very seriously, gives it all he has, but wants no part of the extracurricular stuff. I can't fault him for that. He gives the fans everything they pay for, but yea, he's not going to pretend you're a long awaited friend just because you won backstage passes from the local radio station.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Drove five hours to see them for the first time in 20 years just to hear that song live.
dhockster
Footballguy
The guy is an introvert playing in an extrovert profession. An introvert gets energy from being by themselves, and extrovert gets energy from being around other people. At the end of three hour show, I am sure Peart is just dying to go somewhere and be by himself.
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
When the thread started, I was hoping for a Rush album, 2112 is not one of my favorites, I do like the second side more.
I agree with Dr. Octopus that The Spirit of Radio is one of my favorite songs. Love the intro.
timschochet
Footballguy
Funkadelic- Maggot Brain (1971)
Maggot Brain
Can You Get to That
Hit It and Quit It
You and Your Folks, Me and My Folks
Super Stupid
Back In Our Minds
Wars of Armageddon
Whole Lot of BS
I Miss My Baby
Maggot Brain (Alternative version)
I’m not sure how much response this album will get; hopefully it’s not too obscure. I’ll be pleasantly surprosed if it gets a lot, even though it’s widely regarded as one of the truly great albums of the early 70s (and since it came out in 1971, that is saying something.)
George Clinton was one mother####ing genius IMO. This album has one masterpiece after another of rock, pop (“Can You Get to That” is one of the best pop songs ever), soul, r&b, blues, gospel, all merged together as funk. And speaking of great guitarists, how about Eddie Hazel? “Maggot Brain” is his 7 minute wail to the universe, and to me it’s far more interesting than “YYZ” (sorry Rush fans). Simply awesome record.
Maggot Brain
Can You Get to That
Hit It and Quit It
You and Your Folks, Me and My Folks
Super Stupid
Back In Our Minds
Wars of Armageddon
Whole Lot of BS
I Miss My Baby
Maggot Brain (Alternative version)
I’m not sure how much response this album will get; hopefully it’s not too obscure. I’ll be pleasantly surprosed if it gets a lot, even though it’s widely regarded as one of the truly great albums of the early 70s (and since it came out in 1971, that is saying something.)
George Clinton was one mother####ing genius IMO. This album has one masterpiece after another of rock, pop (“Can You Get to That” is one of the best pop songs ever), soul, r&b, blues, gospel, all merged together as funk. And speaking of great guitarists, how about Eddie Hazel? “Maggot Brain” is his 7 minute wail to the universe, and to me it’s far more interesting than “YYZ” (sorry Rush fans). Simply awesome record.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Lifeson is not only my favorite member of Rush, but my favorite all-time musician. And a lot of that comes from his personality and the man himself. He acts the way I would act if I were a professional musician (serious and focused to get the job done, but playful and silly).
Absolutely.
That is a great way to put it.dhockster said:
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
This isn't my favorite Funkadelic album - it's a tie between Standing On The Verge and One Nation Under A Groove for me - but it's their most iconic and well-known to rock fans. That's not to say it isn't great, though, because it is. The title track is an all-timer.
Mavis Staples did a cover cover of "Can You Get To That" a few years ago.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
tim, great call. listening to this album now, on a slow night at work. so damn good.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Of all the Clintons, George is my favorite.
zamboni
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
There's a live version on One Nation..... with Michael Hampton playing lead that's fantastic, too. Hampton kinda/sorta replaced Eddie when he was having troubles.
zamboni
Footballguy
I was too young when this came out to know about it being played on free form radio, but I don't think I've ever heard the title track on conventional classic rock/AOR radio. Just doesn't fit the boxed-in mentality of mainstream classic rock.
I think I may have heard it on a local college radio station once.
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zamboni
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It did on free form when it came out. Once that morphed into AOR in the mid-70s, all black artists except Hendrix (played as an oldie and on a themed program, since he wasn't making new music anymore) pretty much disappeared. AOR in the '70s mostly played current music (other than the occasional oldie I mentioned above) and they had tightened up so much that artists like P-Funk didn't get any play, even though they "rocked" (in a white-guys-with-guitars way) harder than just about all of the bands they DID play.
When classic rock radio came around in the '80s, Funkadelic was nowhere to be found, either.
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