Cleveland Browns (15 Viewers)

[B-Deep]

would Revis even make sense?

To me Mccown is a punt on the season. He's not going to win you anything, he's not the future, he's a placeholder. Why throw money at Revis to play while your placeholder plays QB?

Wouldn't it be better to invest in younger players that can build with you?

Still need to win games to keep their jobs.

this season?

because if so the Mccown thing makes no sense

you'll never convince me he'll win more than Hoyer.

mccown was a play for the future, train johnny for later, revis would be a (VERY expensive) move for now

 

[B-Deep]

would Revis even make sense?

To me Mccown is a punt on the season. He's not going to win you anything, he's not the future, he's a placeholder. Why throw money at Revis to play while your placeholder plays QB?

Wouldn't it be better to invest in younger players that can build with you?

It isn't about the offense, the Browns defense is a player or two from being playoff caliber. Their defensive backfield was ranked #1 in the NFL defending the pass last year even after losing FS Tashon Gibson, who was leading the NFL in interceptions when he went down. Also their top pick, Justin Gilbert, struggled.

Mike Pettine had Revis in NY with the Jets, and he already has Pro Bowl CB Joe Haden, and two Pro Bowl caliber safeties in Donte Whitner and Tashon Gibson. They will lose CB Buster Skrine but he struggled with big-physical WRs and was seen as a slot CB. Pettine really wanted a shut-down press-man cornerback to pair with Haden and used a top-ten pick last year on Gilbert. He REALLY values that position so its possible a guy like Revis and using one or even both first round draft picks on defense would push the defense into a playoff caliber unit.

The Browns have the offensive line and some young RBs to have a legit ground attack. A dominate defense and a powerful ground attack might be enough to push a 7-9 team into competing for the playoffs but right now Pettine doesn't have his lock-down CB to pair with Joe Haden so again, who knows?

if you think Revis makes them a contender for the playoffs we are not seeing the same thing at all

their offense has 0 weapons, no QB, and their defense was a disappointment last season. Revis does not fix all of that. They ranked 23rd in total defense last season. I know on paper they are nearly a playoff defense, on the field they are not.

 

[amnesiac]

what if they sign him to a three year deal?

Haslam wants to win NOW.

Revis would help them do that.

running game plus defense equals playoffs.

 

[Soulfly3]

You guys can carry on with that convo....

I want Crabtree and one of White/Parker drafted with our first pick... Preferably Parker, only because he's much better at high pointing the ball, and with those long ### arms, he's a real RZ threat... McCown does well with big WRs

Ive come around on Parker, a LOT over the past week, the more reaearch Ive done.

and I knwo some dont like Crabs, but the guy can catch, and we need that type of guy... But Hartline move says it prob wont happen

 

[Bracie Smathers]

don't see why CLE doesnt have a legit shot...

they have legit money

Ugly rich guys arent getting Miss Johanson either

Revis isn't Scarlett Johansson.

He got cut from Tampa Bay because he was making an insane $16 million per year. They preferred to take a $7 million cap hit in dead money to ditch him rather than continue paying his ridiculous contract.

He signed last year with New England but cut his salary down to $12 million per year and the Pats aren't willing to continue paying that salary.

New England isn't going to pay him and he's already taken one significant hit to the wallet so he's fair game IMHO. His salary was untenable so the market seems to be making a correct. The Jets are reportedly in the mix and if his numbers fall into alignment where bidding takes place then any-team willing to pay him top-dollar is a legitimate candidate IMHO.

The bolded is not true (as far as anyone knows). They cut him because his salary for 2015 would have been $20MM. I'm fairly certain that they would immediately sign up for bringing him back at $12MM.

The site I went to only showed what he was making last year and had this year X'd out so you're probably right.

I'm sure the Patriots were looking to resign him to a reasonable price before he hit free agency and since he's in free agency it makes sense they were rebuffed.

Since he's actively shopping his services to the highest bidder I don't automatically assume he's willing to take less to resign with New England or he would have already done that. He's fair game if he finds a team who provides an offer that makes them a clear highest bidder.

 

[amnesiac]

You guys can carry on with that convo....

I want Crabtree and one of White/Parker drafted with our first pick... Preferably Parker, only because he's much better at high pointing the ball, and with those long ### arms, he's a real RZ threat... McCown does well with big WRs

Ive come around on Parker, a LOT over the past week, the more reaearch Ive done.

and I knwo some dont like Crabs, but the guy can catch, and we need that type of guy... But Hartline move says it prob wont happen

Crabtree is ok, but i agree, Hartline signing probably means no Crabtree. they still trying to sign Austin?

 

[Soulfly3]

You guys can carry on with that convo....

I want Crabtree and one of White/Parker drafted with our first pick... Preferably Parker, only because he's much better at high pointing the ball, and with those long ### arms, he's a real RZ threat... McCown does well with big WRs

Ive come around on Parker, a LOT over the past week, the more reaearch Ive done.

and I knwo some dont like Crabs, but the guy can catch, and we need that type of guy... But Hartline move says it prob wont happen

Crabtree is ok, but i agree, Hartline signing probably means no Crabtree.they still trying to sign Austin?

Id take crabs over austin.. easy...

I dont care what ppl say/think, Crabs is an 80/1000 guy easily... We need that.. Then draft a big weapon at 12.

 

[MAC_32]

would Revis even make sense?

To me Mccown is a punt on the season. He's not going to win you anything, he's not the future, he's a placeholder. Why throw money at Revis to play while your placeholder plays QB?

Wouldn't it be better to invest in younger players that can build with you?

Still need to win games to keep their jobs.

this season?

because if so the Mccown thing makes no sense

you'll never convince me he'll win more than Hoyer.

mccown was a play for the future, train johnny for later, revis would be a (VERY expensive) move for now

You're right I won't convince you he'll win more than Hoyer. You're not going to convince me he will win less though. They are one in the same for 2015 imho, but one knows his role going forward (McCown) whereas the other thinks he's a starter when he's not. That can (will?) cause issues we don't necessarily see on Sunday's.

Unless those complaining about McCown are willing to pay what it takes to get Mariota (something I would get behind) I do not agree with their displeasure. Even if the plan is Mariota then McCown even makes more sense. There just aren't good options available, draft or free agency. He gives the Browns an opportunity to go 8-8 and maybe better with a few lucky bounces, just like the other free agent options available.

 

[MAC_32]

You guys can carry on with that convo....

I want Crabtree and one of White/Parker drafted with our first pick... Preferably Parker, only because he's much better at high pointing the ball, and with those long ### arms, he's a real RZ threat... McCown does well with big WRs

Ive come around on Parker, a LOT over the past week, the more reaearch Ive done.

and I knwo some dont like Crabs, but the guy can catch, and we need that type of guy... But Hartline move says it prob wont happen

Crabtree is ok, but i agree, Hartline signing probably means no Crabtree.they still trying to sign Austin?

Id take crabs over austin.. easy...

I dont care what ppl say/think, Crabs is an 80/1000 guy easily... We need that.. Then draft a big weapon at 12.

The last thing the Browns offense need is a me guy. Crabs is a me guy.

 

[MAC_32]

what if they sign him to a three year deal?

Haslam wants to win NOW.

Revis would help them do that.

running game plus defense equals playoffs.

Yep, we're not paying a QB for at least 3 years, so use the money budgeted for a franchise QB for a franchise changing talent like Revis on defense in the meantime. It makes perfect sense.

Will Revis play here? Completely different story.

 

[Soulfly3]

The last thing the Browns offense need is a me guy. Crabs is a me guy.

Not many WRs are not "me guys"

I want Crabtree here. We need to move the chains. We need catches. We also need a white/parker to stretch the field, and maybe even catch a few balls in the EZ

 

[MAC_32]

The last thing the Browns offense need is a me guy. Crabs is a me guy.

Not many WRs are not "me guys"

I want Crabtree here. We need to move the chains. We need catches. We also need a white/parker to stretch the field, and maybe even catch a few balls in the EZ

Hartline and Hawk can move the chains. We need a play maker, I agree.

So, draft one. Hell, draft two.

Big name free agent WR's on bad offenses usually don't end with success.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

don't see why CLE doesnt have a legit shot...

they have legit money

Ugly rich guys arent getting Miss Johanson either

Revis isn't Scarlett Johansson.

He got cut from Tampa Bay because he was making an insane $16 million per year. They preferred to take a $7 million cap hit in dead money to ditch him rather than continue paying his ridiculous contract.

He signed last year with New England but cut his salary down to $12 million per year and the Pats aren't willing to continue paying that salary.

New England isn't going to pay him and he's already taken one significant hit to the wallet so he's fair game IMHO. His salary was untenable so the market seems to be making a correct. The Jets are reportedly in the mix and if his numbers fall into alignment where bidding takes place then any-team willing to pay him top-dollar is a legitimate candidate IMHO.

The bolded is not true (as far as anyone knows). They cut him because his salary for 2015 would have been $20MM. I'm fairly certain that they would immediately sign up for bringing him back at $12MM.

The site I went to only showed what he was making last year and had this year X'd out so you're probably right.

I'm sure the Patriots were looking to resign him to a reasonable price before he hit free agency and since he's in free agency it makes sense they were rebuffed.

Since he's actively shopping his services to the highest bidder I don't automatically assume he's willing to take less to resign with New England or he would have already done that. He's fair game if he finds a team who provides an offer that makes them a clear highest bidder.

He'll likely go to the highest bidder. He has said that NE will get some preference though:

The New York Daily News reports Darrelle Revis will re-sign with the Patriots if they make a comparable offer to what he receives on the open market.

After winning a Super Bowl in his lone year in New England, Revis will unsurprisingly give the Patriots the benefit of the doubt in negotiations. The Patriots will at least have to come close to Revis' other suitors, however, which could be difficult with the Jets reportedly set to make a big run at one of the game's premier corners. Revis' $12 million roster bonus becomes guaranteed on Monday. The Patriots are expected to extend his contract or release him by then.

 

[daveR]

would Revis even make sense?

To me Mccown is a punt on the season. He's not going to win you anything, he's not the future, he's a placeholder. Why throw money at Revis to play while your placeholder plays QB?

Wouldn't it be better to invest in younger players that can build with you?

Still need to win games to keep their jobs.

this season?

because if so the Mccown thing makes no sense

you'll never convince me he'll win more than Hoyer.

mccown was a play for the future, train johnny for later, revis would be a (VERY expensive) move for now

You're right I won't convince you he'll win more than Hoyer. You're not going to convince me he will win less though. They are one in the same for 2015 imho, but one knows his role going forward (McCown) whereas the other thinks he's a starter when he's not. That can (will?) cause issues we don't necessarily see on Sunday's.

Unless those complaining about McCown are willing to pay what it takes to get Mariota (something I would get behind) I do not agree with their displeasure. Even if the plan is Mariota then McCown even makes more sense. There just aren't good options available, draft or free agency. He gives the Browns an opportunity to go 8-8 and maybe better with a few lucky bounces, just like the other free agent options available.

IMO, all signs point to the F.O. being stubborn about JF$. Seems (sigh) he is still their man.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

would Revis even make sense?

To me Mccown is a punt on the season. He's not going to win you anything, he's not the future, he's a placeholder. Why throw money at Revis to play while your placeholder plays QB?

Wouldn't it be better to invest in younger players that can build with you?

Still need to win games to keep their jobs.

this season?

because if so the Mccown thing makes no sense

you'll never convince me he'll win more than Hoyer.

mccown was a play for the future, train johnny for later, revis would be a (VERY expensive) move for now

You're right I won't convince you he'll win more than Hoyer. You're not going to convince me he will win less though. They are one in the same for 2015 imho, but one knows his role going forward (McCown) whereas the other thinks he's a starter when he's not. That can (will?) cause issues we don't necessarily see on Sunday's.

Unless those complaining about McCown are willing to pay what it takes to get Mariota (something I would get behind) I do not agree with their displeasure. Even if the plan is Mariota then McCown even makes more sense. There just aren't good options available, draft or free agency. He gives the Browns an opportunity to go 8-8 and maybe better with a few lucky bounces, just like the other free agent options available.

From a few days ago, Terry Pluto on what he sees as the Browns reasoning for signing McCowan.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2015/03/cleveland_browns_have_their_re.html

... 4. Last season, the Browns used the play-action fakes to running backs on 29 percent of their plays for Brian Hoyer. Tampa did it on only 9 percent for McCown, second fewest in the NFL. The year before in Chicago, it was 21 percent for McCown.

5. In Chicago, McCown had Matt Forte (1,339 yards rushing) in the backfield. Last season, he had Doug Martin (494 yards) and Bobby Rainey (406). The Bears strong running game helped set up McCown's passing.

6. Tampa often used formations with no running backs and lots of wide receivers. Chicago's Forte was not only a weapon in the running game, he also caught 79 passes in 2013. So he was always on the field, and receiving lots of attention from the defense.

7. Tampa ranked 29th in rushing. The Bucs scored only seven touchdowns on the ground, and three belonged to McCown.



8. The Browns ranked 17th in rushing with 17 touchdowns on the ground. There is no doubt that the Browns have a much better ground game.

12. Football Outsiders rated Tampa Bay as having the worst offensive line in the NFL, and 29th protecting the passer. The Browns at 24th overall, 15th protecting the passer. The Browns expect a big upgrade with the return of Pro Bowl center Alex Mack and some help in the draft.

13. Profootballfocus ranked the Browns as the No. 6 offensive line in 2014. They had Tampa at No. 25. No matter the ranking, McCown is coming to a much better line.

14. The Bucs were 2-14. McCown certainly had an arm in it when it came to the problems, but they were widespread. A week before the season, offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford became ill and had to resign. It was just a mess with the lousy blocking and running game.

15. The Browns know that McCown will be 36 on July 4. They know he is a stop-gap. New offensive coordinator John DeFilippo worked with him in Oakland. The Browns believe they can duplicate the offense they had with Hoyer early in the season and make it work with McCown.

 

[MAC_32]

would Revis even make sense?

To me Mccown is a punt on the season. He's not going to win you anything, he's not the future, he's a placeholder. Why throw money at Revis to play while your placeholder plays QB?

Wouldn't it be better to invest in younger players that can build with you?

Still need to win games to keep their jobs.

this season?

because if so the Mccown thing makes no sense

you'll never convince me he'll win more than Hoyer.

mccown was a play for the future, train johnny for later, revis would be a (VERY expensive) move for now

You're right I won't convince you he'll win more than Hoyer. You're not going to convince me he will win less though. They are one in the same for 2015 imho, but one knows his role going forward (McCown) whereas the other thinks he's a starter when he's not. That can (will?) cause issues we don't necessarily see on Sunday's.

Unless those complaining about McCown are willing to pay what it takes to get Mariota (something I would get behind) I do not agree with their displeasure. Even if the plan is Mariota then McCown even makes more sense. There just aren't good options available, draft or free agency. He gives the Browns an opportunity to go 8-8 and maybe better with a few lucky bounces, just like the other free agent options available.

IMO, all signs point to the F.O. being stubborn about JF$. Seems (sigh) he is still their man.

Maybe I'm just being a blind homer, but I'm sitting on the fence about that. Farmer loves Mariota and I think Pettine is ready to move on from Johnny. I agree that the top decision makers want Johnny to figure it out, but I'm not convinced they're expecting him to. They will give him an opportunity to prove himself, but they are not planning on him earning the job. If they expect him to and are wrong then they're all out on their collective asses. Entirely possible I'm giving them too much credit and they are thinking the latter though.

 

[Soulfly3]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

 

[MAC_32]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

Can't imagine the Fins can match an offer sheet if Clay agrees to our terms.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

Can't imagine the Fins can match an offer sheet if Clay agrees to our terms.

DeFilippo needs a playmaking TE like that in his system so if we can get him great.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/5-staples-of-the-Browns-offense-under-John-DeFilippo/1bc8f104-c190-412a-810f-e6acd4a8aa5f

3) A playmaking tight end will be a necessity

Pettine indicated at the NFL Combine the Browns have been in contact with impending free agent Jordan Cameron, but there’s a chance the tight end doesn’t return. DeFilippo said he’s very comfortable with Jim Dray and Gary Barnidge as his “Y” tight ends, who will primarily be blockers in the run game.

The other tight end in DeFilippo’s offense is called the “F” – who will be lined up all over the field trying to exploit the defense. If Cameron returns, he’s shown the knack for making big plays. If not, the Browns will need to go on a hunt for his replacement. DeFilippo was clear in what his offense will need.

In Oakland, Pro Bowl fullback Marcel Reece was this sort of player.

“A guy that can move around, be a mismatch on a linebacker, can run a choice route, get in and out of breaks on third and fourth down, can win against man-to-man coverage,” DeFilippo said. “That’s what I think we are in the market for. Everybody is looking for that personnel mismatch to be able to go out and do all those things. It just totally broadens the field for you and widens and makes you much more diverse.”

But what if we don't get Clay or someone in FA and expect to lose TE Jordan Cameron? Last year Cameron only had something like 400 receiving yards and a handful of TDs but he did most of that damage on less than six receptions going deep.

Why if we drafted a 6'5 237 lb WR with speed, and change his position to TE then split him wide and use him in the slot how Jordan Cameron did most of his damage last year and how Flip has defined the role of how he uses one type of tight end?

I think if we took a WR like Funchess or Doral Green-Beckam falls in the second round it might be possible to adequately address the TE role that Flip needs in his offense to spread the field.

Not sure what is still available in FA and the draft is weak for that sort of TE so would have to get creative and think outside the box to fill that role.

 

[amnesiac]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Jordan Cameron likely to Miami if Clay leaves

 

[Soulfly3]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Jordan Cameron likely to Miami if Clay leaves

Ya, sorry... this team need to go WR/WR in the first...

I mentioned first as a joke, but... I mean.... We dont have F all on offense aside from Crowell.

(yes, IM slightly exaggerating, but barely)

def need to take one at 12 if white/cooper/parker are left

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Ya, sorry... this team need to go WR/WR in the first...

I mentioned first as a joke, but... I mean.... We dont have F all on offense aside from Crowell.

(yes, IM slightly exaggerating, but barely)

def need to take one at 12 if white/cooper/parker are left

And again I would say no.

If one of the top three WRs fall to 12 then I'd be fine taking one of them there but we don't have a QB, we don't. Its not coming in this draft or free agency or via trade this year, its just not.

My strategy all along is to trade-down from 19 to the second round and pick up an extra 1st round pick next year to make a run at finding the QB in 2016. If we did that we'd have two-second round picks this year and then take BPA and if one were a WR then that would acceptable but I don't see using both first round picks on WRs without a thought of addressing the QB position.

A year ago from Mike Pettine's first press conference when he was hired.

"To win in this league you have to have a great quarterback and that’s something we’re going to put our full focus and attention on."

 

[Bobcat10]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Jordan Cameron likely to Miami if Clay leaves

Ya, sorry... this team need to go WR/WR in the first...

I mentioned first as a joke, but... I mean.... We dont have F all on offense aside from Crowell.

(yes, IM slightly exaggerating, but barely)

def need to take one at 12 if white/cooper/parker are left

That's just silly. I agree we need a solid WR (thanks Gordon), but that player could mesh just fine with Hartline, Hawkins, and whoever else we will have at the end of the depth chart come August.

We also need a capable TE, maybe that is a draft target in the middle rounds, but that's another story.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

A good strategy to let everyone leave, not sign anyone, and gain late picks?

strategy?

If it makes you feel better, they'll be using a completely different strategy next year when Haslam cleans house again.

 

[MAC_32]

WR/WR round 1 is a terrible idea.

 

[mr fancypants]

WR/WR round 1 is a terrible idea.

Agreed, but I could see 1 in Rd1 and maybe another in the 4th Rd.

 

[mr fancypants]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Where in the Hell is Buffalo getting all this cap space for all the players their signing plus the monies for their all star DL?

 

[MAC_32]

WR/WR round 1 is a terrible idea.

Agreed, but I could see 1 in Rd1 and maybe another in the 4th Rd.

Yep, more than alright with two wr's but the second one being closer to pick 100-120.

 

[MAC_32]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Where in the Hell is Buffalo getting all this cap space for all the players their signing plus the monies for their all star DL?

If these signings don't work they will be in cap hell.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Where in the Hell is Buffalo getting all this cap space for all the players their signing plus the monies for their all star DL?

If these signings don't work they will be in cap hell.

They don't have big money tied up at Qb or WR which helps.

Going back to comp picks, Seattle will have 7 of them this year and they were in the Super Bowl after losing a bunch of free agents last off season and not signing any

 

[The Man With No Name]

While Buster Skrine got a big contract with another bad team the NYJ, Jabaal Sheard also got good money to go to a better place in New England.

 

[ghostguy123]

We seem to be gunning for the #1 pick next year.

So when do we trade Joe THomas?

We cant even get to the minimum salary we need to pay. We are gonna have to sign one of our waterboys to a 30 million dollar deal

 

[MAC_32]

While Buster Skrine got a big contract with another bad team the NYJ, Jabaal Sheard also got good money to go to a better place in New England.

Relatively speaking, I don't think either got a big contract.

I get why Sheard had to go, he's a better fit on that defense. Losing Skrine and seeing him get that contract though. No reason the Browns shouldn't have made that sort of offer.

 

[MAC_32]

We seem to be gunning for the #1 pick next year.

So when do we trade Joe THomas?

We cant even get to the minimum salary we need to pay. We are gonna have to sign one of our waterboys to a 30 million dollar deal

We are not at risk of violating the salary floor. It's not based on cap spend, it's based on cash spend, among other things.

 

[ghostguy123]

Mac, meet Sarcasm

 

[MAC_32]

Browns want TE Charles Clay

sounds like Buffalo signed him to an offer sheet.

Where in the Hell is Buffalo getting all this cap space for all the players their signing plus the monies for their all star DL?

If these signings don't work they will be in cap hell.

They don't have big money tied up at Qb or WR which helps.

Correct, but that's not the problem. They're taking their current contracts and restructuring them to push their cap hits into future years to fit the new contracts. It's not a terrible strategy if you don't need that cap space in the future, but the Bills are going to need it eventually.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

While Buster Skrine got a big contract with another bad team the NYJ, Jabaal Sheard also got good money to go to a better place in New England.

Relatively speaking, I don't think either got a big contract.

I get why Sheard had to go, he's a better fit on that defense. Losing Skrine and seeing him get that contract though. No reason the Browns shouldn't have made that sort of offer.

No way I would pay that for Skrine. Take my chances with Williams, Gilbert and Desir.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

DawgPoundNation.com ‏@DawgPoundNation 13m13 minutes ago

Because the #Browns hate their fans, they just signed Thad Lewis to a 1 year deal, per @Rand_Getlin.

DawgPoundNation.com ‏@DawgPoundNation 10m10 minutes ago

Next up, the #Browns plan to sign that guy who's crapping on people's cars.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

awful

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Chris Fedor ‏@ChrisFedor 2m2 minutes ago

The #Browns have now signed two quarterbacks and a wide receiver and yet still need help at quarterback and wide receiver.

Ladies and gentlemen, your CLEVELAND BROWNS

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Seriously awful

They should just paint a big middle finger in the middle of the field.

 

[amnesiac]

DawgPoundNation.com ‏@DawgPoundNation 13m13 minutes ago

Because the #Browns hate their fans, they just signed Thad Lewis to a 1 year deal, per @Rand_Getlin.

DawgPoundNation.com ‏@DawgPoundNation 10m10 minutes ago

Next up, the #Browns plan to sign that guy who's crapping on people's cars.

i don't get this.

they need a backup quarterback.

i wouldn't trust Manziel to run the scout team.

 

[Bobcat10]

While Buster Skrine got a big contract with another bad team the NYJ, Jabaal Sheard also got good money to go to a better place in New England.

Relatively speaking, I don't think either got a big contract.

I get why Sheard had to go, he's a better fit on that defense. Losing Skrine and seeing him get that contract though. No reason the Browns shouldn't have made that sort of offer.

No way I would pay that for Skrine. Take my chances with Williams, Gilbert and Desir.

This I agree with.

 

[Soulfly3]

They gotta make SOME FA moves, no?

Take a shot at Bowe? I think he;s MILES better than what's been shown at KC... Let's be serious, 0 WR td's doesnt come down to WRs... that's all on a vaj of a QB.

He no monster, but he's pretty good. Can prob be had on the cheap too.

Bowe + Draft a WR

 

[12punch]

looool rotoworld getting mean......

Super Bowl? Browns add Thad Lewis to QB room

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/308491/super-bowl-browns-add-thad-lewis-to-qb-room

 

[12punch]

DawgPoundNation.com ‏@DawgPoundNation 13m13 minutes ago

Because the #Browns hate their fans, they just signed Thad Lewis to a 1 year deal, per @Rand_Getlin.

DawgPoundNation.com ‏@DawgPoundNation 10m10 minutes ago

Next up, the #Browns plan to sign that guy who's crapping on people's cars.

i don't get this.

they need a backup quarterback.

i wouldn't trust Manziel to run the scout team.

aren't they pretty well stocked with back up qb's at this point?

they gonna roll with 4 back ups and no starters?

 

[12punch]

They gotta make SOME FA moves, no?

Take a shot at Bowe? I think he;s MILES better than what's been shown at KC... Let's be serious, 0 WR td's doesnt come down to WRs... that's all on a vaj of a QB.

He no monster, but he's pretty good. Can prob be had on the cheap too.

Bowe + Draft a WR

dude, they just signed hartline, moore, and lewis

 

[Soulfly3]

They gotta make SOME FA moves, no?

Take a shot at Bowe? I think he;s MILES better than what's been shown at KC... Let's be serious, 0 WR td's doesnt come down to WRs... that's all on a vaj of a QB.

He no monster, but he's pretty good. Can prob be had on the cheap too.

Bowe + Draft a WR

dude, they just signed hartline, moore, and lewis

ya, that's my point

 

[jurb26]

They gotta make SOME FA moves, no?

Take a shot at Bowe? I think he;s MILES better than what's been shown at KC... Let's be serious, 0 WR td's doesnt come down to WRs... that's all on a vaj of a QB.

He no monster, but he's pretty good. Can prob be had on the cheap too.

Bowe + Draft a WR

dude, they just signed hartline, moore, and lewis

ya, that's my point

Clev has 2 1st and can easily address WR via the draft rather than overpay for a FA.